As a parent of a child diagnosed as autistic/ASD I have to admit that I was very triggered, as "Why are they NOT mentioning Wakefield's conflict of interests and poor ethics!?" And then Part 2... Thank you. Also: big red flag when a researcher is disappointed with their findings. I'm not talking about mistakes or poor procedures, records or observations. I mean when everything is done properly, but the results aren't "what they wanted". That's just bad science.
The lawyers did not pay for this study. They first contacted him when the study was under way or afterward and Wakefield was only paid for expert testimony at trial which Lancet’s guidelines did not say should be disclosed as a conflict. Wakefield later reported this payment on his own. He was not “outed.”
1 in every 50 Children have Autism - they have special classes in Schools for them now and I feel it could be getting worse if Parents don't Protect their Children and really make decisions not what the doctor say or the Gov but what their intuition guides them.
If your intuition is rubbing cow shit on your 5 month old and throwing them in front of a car, should you? No obviously. You don't use intuition to see what's wrong with your car, you go to a mechanic. You don't use intuition to fix a broken power line, you get the power company to fix it. And, yet again, you don't use intuition to treat cancer, you let a specialist treat it. Intuition and skepticism can be useful when it is combined with objective fact.
@@clickslefttoe if you have car knowledge then your car intuition may be very good compared to some of those mechanics. This is all relative. The original commenter is basically saying, don't just trust someone in a lab coat. I'd extend that to suggest everybody research the consaquences of their important and nonreversable life decisions
The 10 authors did NOT retract the study. They retracted the “interpretation that was placed on it” that there was or might be a link between autism and MMR vaccine- or some wording very close to that. Note the study had explicitly stated (“from the the beginning”) that it did not establish a link between autism and the vaccine and that it could not possibly bc it was not designed to do so.
Wakefield was a Prof. of gasteroenterology. Prof. Walker-Smith, a world expert in pediatric gastroenterology performed the procedures. The GMC revoked his license too, but he appealed to a court which reinstated his license and had harsh words for GMC. Wakefield claims he did not have the money for an appeal.
So, it comes down once again to a few unscrupulous, sociopathic lawyers and a surgeon who had no business treating children, who made up data in exchange for a hefty fee. It was blood money.
Thank you for this video, I have a 6 yr old boy who Has Autism, Wondering what caused his Autism sometime keep's me awake deep into the night and leading me to think we made a mistake in getting him vaccinated and made me searching for answer's. It's hard to know what's real and what's not when you are so desperate to find the answer.
I like how you are educating yourself, I can imagine it must be very hard not knowing what the cause is but it’s still much better than some other people who see a Facebook post and believe it
I am also looking for answers, I have 3 kids, but none with Autism, so as a parent I can’t say I know how you feel, but I’ve had so many ppl tell me there is a link. But with this video and much more research, I have come to see there is no link.
As an Autistic Person, I don't think it's worth worrying about what "caused" the autism. Its more worth it to learn more about your child, their needs, your needs, finding a routine that works for you, building a good sensory friendly environment. There's a lot of autistic youtubers with good info. Check them out!
Again, i would love to have sources and links to your claims. That would make this video a great thing to link to when you are in a discussion about wakefield or vaccines.
According to my mainstream gastroenterologist, my doctor and studies carried out back in 2016 that shows that there is a connection between the gut and the brain, and improving the gut bacteria in Autistic kids through fecal transplant, showed massive improvement in behavioral symptoms, that you're wrong. That the studies you're referring to are wrong. If in fact, they exist at all.
Shanny er I think it is ”Serious adverse events after measles-mumps-rubella vaccination during a fourteen-year prospective follow-up”. Patja et al 2000
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1173183/ Peltola H, Patja A, Leinikki P, Valle M, Davidkin I, Paunio M. No evidence for measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine-associated inflammatory bowel disease or autism in a 14-year prospective study. Lancet. 1998;351(9112):1327-1328.
You state over and over again, many studies show no link between MMR and vaccines. Can you please list ALL of your studies on here, so we can double check your work.
Michael Freed rfk jr? You mean the lawyer that was caught faking evidence and making one claim then jumping straight to another after he couldnt prove the first one?
This is Khan Academy, I fully expected to watch a unbiased fact based presentation. Instead I just watched a biased tabloid fiction of the actual facts in the case. Readers ! Do you own research, it's all out there for you to review and make your own option.
And have u seen numbers of children who have been affected by vaccines? I worked with kids for 20 years and have seen differences in them post vaccination. It's real and when parents speak up they get shut down immediately. Those r the numbers u want. Actual people, not studies funded by pharmaceutical companies
RU-vid doesn't allow those other. I would suggest Googling what I mentioned, especially the studies at University of Pittsburgh. Also there is a website called NaturalNews that talks about these things often.
How do you explain how polio is nearly gone? Or small pox? Or mumps? Or any other disease that is effectively vaccinated in countries that utilize them? Did you look at the video? Do you look at anything besides things you make up? Is there a reason why you are promoting the endangerment of children?
You could blame governments, corporations, greed and corruption for those things, instead of trying to pin the blame on something as ephemeral as 'science'
First of all, we need to see who can benefit from it. Large companies that produce vaccines and bureaucracies that coordinate the distribution and management of vaccines. These people don't care about the health of children at all, even if they know that vaccines can cause autism, in order to make money or keep their place. These toxic things will definitely be injected into newborn children. One key point is that the incidence of autism is constantly increasing, and one day it will become too high for people to bear.
But you can say the same about Mr. Wakefield who has become very rich and has received the adulation of many desperate mothers. Most of the people who work in the vaccination industry earn nowhere near the amount Mr. Wakefield does (and they have to work for it). Also the universities and others who did the research into MMR safety subsequent to Mr. Wakefield's had nothing to gain by finding a correlation or not. The incidence of autism reporting has increased year on year (the criteria has also changed) but so has the consumption of tomatoes (about 4% each year); are they a cause? What has increased in line with the rise in autism is the age of initial parenthood, which is a well know factor in development problems of both the foetus and infant. This might sound unsympathetic: it's always easier to blame an external factor than accept there may be some flaw in the self.
The lumbar punctures were proven. I can link you to where you can find some of this if you are still interested. Edit: I'll actually post the link here anyway so others can take me up on it. Here is the link to Wakefield et al. 1998. They describe in their own methods that they performed lumbar puncture under sedation as part of their study. www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(97)11096-0/fulltext
wow! glad he was caught! worries me how many other characters like this there are in the world of science and medicine, tarnishing these fields of study with their egos and self interests:( I've met way too many on the net who are paranoid about science because they BELIEVE such people , not because they are wary of them:(
Don't think I've ever seen a video so full of misinformation... not sure if it's ignorance or dishonesty (I'm guessing both, but mostly the latter). What companies funded this?
zenpvnk probably doctors with a medical degree, but, oh woe is me, medical degrees is what causes cancer, oh no, get under the healing crystal, kids, vaccines are made by doctors
Wade Lachman Parents who assumed there was a link (because their earliest memory of the symptoms coincided with the vaccine being administered) were eager to sue, so their lawyers needed his paper to corroborate their claims.
Wow how unethical and GMC did right thing, right? But I still wonder why GMC got grilled by judges in GMC VS Walker-Smith case thereby ordering GMC to reinstate him. I also wonder how come a journal like Lancet published it without any editorial/peer review.
This is a large subject that is still being studied today (see recent studies by University of Pittsburgh) and these two videos have not covered everything although you've mentioned other things that CONTRIBUTE towards things such as autism. A few examples. Thimerosal (Recent studies by: Dr. Paula Baillie-Hamilton, Robert F. Kennedy Center, Heike Ferrie, KC Craichy, Andreas Moritz) Mecury (recent studies by Phyllis A. Balch, CNC) A bias video indeed concentrating on one story.
I actually have a list of about 50 recent studies (2012-2013) conclusively linking vaccinations to autism and other diseases but alas there is a limit on Facebook.
What allows you to post this on the internet? How can you fly to conventions to hear about UFO's? Why has the average life expectancy doubled over the past century? There are bad consequences of scientific progress; however, overall, it has been for the betterment of humanity, to help our fellow brothers and sisters in the pursuit of the truth in this universe. It will be science that solves these problems, not blind anger or wishful thinking. G-d helps those who help themselves.
bullsfan1289 THANK YOU THANK YOU for speaking logic! Dr. Wakefield CLEARLY was an attention-seeker. And he did it in one of the most wrong ways possible.
You are completely misinformed about the vaccines you are injecting into your body. BTW, if you have ASD, know this: The damage is cumulative. Get studying.
There should be a khanacademylogic series with a video on straw-man arguments that points to this video. Very disappointing to use one study as the end all be all. Very disappointing to say over and over other studies have shown no link without even putting references in the description for people to crosscheck and do their own due diligence. Instead of drawing pictures, it'd be vastly more helpful to quote from the studies themselves. Ur students are smarter than that. Only 2 videos discussing this topic that people have been heatedly discussing for decades? U must think people are that dumb. First, what about UCDavis finding that people with autism have immune system issues and gastrointestinal deregulation, thus confirming the finding in the Wakefield paper, a paper which never actually explicitly said the MMR gave the kids autism. U mention conflicts of interest for Wakefield, yet fail to mention how the Jeanne Lenzer's BMJ article detailing how CDC has taken money from industry since 1983. Then you don't mention the whistleblowers like William Thompson and Andrew Zimmerman, the former saying his boss asked him to lie and throw out data showing a link between young black boys with the MMR and autism, the latter saying autism can be caused in rare cases by vaccines. You don't acknowledge how former CDC director Julie Geberding (now President of Merck's vaccine division) has admitted in a CNN interview that stressors like vaccines can cause autism-like symptoms in people with a certain mitochondrial disorder like Hannah Poling. You don't mention how investigative reporter reporter, Sharyl Attkinson, interviewed William Thompson's coworker/boss at the CDC, Frank DeStephano, and how he said vaccines can (rarely) trigger autism, not cause it, just trigger it. Actual difference or just legal wordplay? A proper series would not just talk about vaccines and autism, but vaccines and all severe adverse reactions. It would have a risk benefit analysis clearly showing the risks of severe adverse events (all medical procedures have risks) from actual data sources like the WHO vaccine reaction rates sheets vs the benefits using infection rates and mortality rates. A proper series would have Number Needed to Treat arguments and Number Needed to Harm numbers. A proper channel should have lessons on the history and politics of medicine and videos on Conflicts of Interest, for example, how tobacco science was used to convince people cigarettes weren't harmful. It should have a video on how Merck used fake journals and ghost written articles and had a hitlist for those critical of Vioxx, which killed tens of thousands before it was retracted. What about the BMJ tamiflu controversy, or the Monsanto and cancer controversy, or the Thalidomide and birth defects, or the most recent one with Coca-Cola showing how big business do fund studies but can silence the ones they don't agree with. Your channel has none of these. Keep making people believe medicine knows all.
If you listen to Andrew Wakefield explain his side of the story he is very convincing. He has explanations for everything he was accused of. Also looking back at Brian deers documentary not so convincing.
by that do you mean fucking youtube videos ? or do you mean peer reviewed scientific research? you know the one which to date has not found any sufficient evidence linking autism to vaccines, or any of that bullshit.
@@mohamedkhayat1095 Your high level of trust in the CDC is unfortunate and your low level of knowledge about vaccines is unfortunate. In addition to researching the many books that have been written by M.D.’s regarding the danger that vaccines pose, yes, you can also find valuable info on you tube. It’s odd that you don’t know how many doctors are on you tube presenting their information. Censorship is heavy, that’s for sure, so you need to figure out how to dig for the information. Start by trying to figure out what happened at the CDC regarding their own internal study on the MMR and what it revealed about Autism & black baby boys, and why the head of the CDC ordered that study to be shredded. Good luck, Rush Boii. P.S. if u happen to be Autistic and are offended by ppl saying vaccines can cause Autism, you need not be. It does not diminish anything about you. P.S.S. Also, if happen to be Autistic and have an eye slightly out of line, you need to figure out what vaccines have done to you because the damage is cumulative and future vaccines can cause more harm.
@@nope.2523 I am not autistic, I am a sane human being who trusts scientific consensus over quacks and conspiracy theorists who had their licenses disbarred, you claim that plenty of M.D s caution against the dangers of vaccine, which is true, if by dangers you mean extremely rare and usually mild side effects, however, to this day, no credible scientific peer reviewed study has proven autism is caused by vaccines, which should tell you something you conspiracy theorist pseudoscientific nutjob.
@@nope.2523 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sGOtDVilkUc.html&ab_channel=AutismMediaChannel looked it up and this came up, Andrew Wakefield ? seriously? you mean the dude who made an alternative Measles vaccine 9 months before making a scientific illiterate study trying to link the MMR vaccine to some sort of non existing gut to brain autism disease? that has been proven not to exist? because he made it all up to make money from the vaccine scare? grow up and give this a watch if you genuinely care about this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8BIcAZxFfrc.html
@@mohamedkhayat1095 You naive fool. Did you find the details about the CDC & their internal study? Do you know who Hannah Poling is? Do you know anything about vaccine ingredients crossing the blood brain barrier? Do you know which vaccines were approved without the use of an inert saline placebo? Do you know what happened in 1986? Do you know how vaccine induced brain damage is evident on the face? Do you know why childhood leukemia and SIDS dramatically increased in recent decades? Do you know about the Australian cot study? Have you read Miller’s book? Have you witnessed children regress and begin engaging in gross motor tics post vaccination? Are you aware that SIDS is seen in specific time intervals post vaccination? Do you have any knowledge about the power of the pharmaceutical industry in the U.S.? What doctors can you find online who are not warning about mild or rare side effects but are instead, sounding the alarm? Seems as if you did not look very long or hard, which is, I gather, why you are as unaware as you are. Learn how to dig. The info is not readily available on purpose AND the pharmaceutical industry is ALWAYS working hard to squelch whistleblowers, so OF COURSE, you will find that doctors who speak out are railed against. Sometimes, they are “suicided”. A cursory “search” as you just did won’t cut it.
But whenever an actual scientist disputes your arguments you just yell about them lying for money. What would have to happen for you to change your mind? Mountains of evidence is not proof. A deep dive into the logic is not proof. between dying or getting autism you would rather let kids die. What would it take?
