Vader’s Corridor | The Best (and Worst) Scene in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story 

Vader can’t be on the beach He doesn’t like sand

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That rebel desperately pounding on the door is one of the most emotional things I’ve seen in a long time. It’s not cheesy or lame, instead it shows how scary Vader truly is. I love it.

"It's the worst scene in the movie because it shows how all the other scenes in the movie are worse" Come on now, you can do better than this

"there's no tension in something invisible being transmitted thousands of miles" *coronavirus has entered the chat*

While Tarkin is jarring in this movie, you need him in this story. He’s the guy who runs the Death Star in A New Hope, how would he not be involved in an engagement with people trying to steal its blueprints?

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I think the criticism of the first scene is actually what makes it work for her character: she isn't scared of the empire, she isn't passionate, she just wants to keep her head down and stay safe, which is what worked for her as a kid. Standing up killed her mother, hiding and running saved her.

So...it's not really the worst scene but it's just the scene that makes the rest of the movie looks bad rather than being a highlight.

The best scene is me taking a bath.

I'd like to point out those actors who play the rebels did an amazing job! Their sheer terror makes that scene. They deserve some call backs for future star wars projects.

I like the fact that he still has stiff movements that he had in the originals, even though his costume is probably made with better materials.

I actually liked the fact that they explicitly made Donnie Yen's character not be a jedi. And instead he was simply one who believes in them and the Force without any evidence that it has ever done anything for him. It briefly made the Force a magical and mysterious thing once again. Did the Force help him? Was he "guided" by it? We don't really ever get actual confirmation one way or another in the movie. And I love that. I think that the jedi and their Force powers have become a ridiculous deus ex machina for the series. (Never more so evident than in Rise of Skywalker.) To the extent that there almost nothing special or interesting about it anymore.

I didn't think of Chirut as a Jedi. We never see him directly manipulating the force, he just feels it, and he reacts to it. It's kind of biblical. It's a blind man that can see more than everyone else by giving himself up to the force.

That 2 minutes scene is awesome not only because it shows Vader going all out. But because it shows how truly horrifying encountering Vader would be...

"There are more of us Po.... there are more of us..." Surprise the day is saved.... Except this scene was ruined by the trailers...

I honestly disagree with every single idea you came up with to “fix” the film. Vader was terrifying because we got a buildup to him actually appearing on the ship. He’d be wasted on the beach because he can’t be in five places at once. Having the plans in disc form and not transmission form is completely missing the point. You’re not supposed to see the plans in physical form until they are on the ship because you’re supposed to be focusing on the characters and their sacrifices, not the plans. The plans only exist as a conflict on the beach and a catalyst for action and stress. They don’t actually become a prop until Vader appears and by that point it’s earned because there’s a danger of everyone’s sacrifice being for nothing if Vader gets ahold of them. I love your channel but this is your weakest video in my opinion.

I think you missed the point of this movie This was not about “main characters “ Jen and everybody else we’re supposed to be nobodies They are the everyman soldier essentially on the front lines This was a movie about giving Everything to hold the line Even if it only manages to hold the line for only a second more That’s enough

I thought the idea of a force sensitive who wasn't a jedi or sith was pretty cool. It's a big galaxy, some force sensitives must slip through the cracks or not be strong enough in the force to make the cut. It demonstrated a more subtle use of the force in lieu of the overt displays of power that a trained user would produce.

I actually prefer that we see the cavalry getting ready. It’s a pretty tired trope to throw a hero into a situation, have them nearly lose and then have a shot fired from nowhere save them and then see their buddies coming over the hill. It was a little fresher to see the decision to help be made but then see that there was still all this prep to be done and that our heroes weren’t automatically in the clear. The tension here comes from how long will it take for the cavalry to arrive. How quickly can the fleet lift off and travel to scariff? And then once there we see the small wing of fighters and support craft rush the shield to try and get a first wave of support to the surface. I suppose because we ultimately know they’ll succeed, it’s more interesting to show what the scramble to make the rescue looks like, than to make it look like they’re going to lose, but we all know that can’t be, so we’re not really shocked when the rescue comes. Instead, we watch the whole battle not worried about the IF, but the HOW, and so it’s way better that we see a series of triage scenarios (almost like a rapid fire Apollo 13) where the fleet has to get support to the surface, then they have to defend their position in space, then they have to destroy the shield to receive transmission. Meanwhile the ground team has a series of challenges and checkpoints of their own that they struggle to make work, and they have to pivot several times. Because we know they will ultimately win it’s far better than we just get an interesting journey to that victory

The way you want to alter the opening sequence by having the troopers be "right on her tail" would just turn this movie into another cliche

Clickbait title. More accurate to say, "The best scene in Rogue One underlines how flawed the rest of the movie is." Anyway, I dislike the cliche that the heroes only ever escape by the skin of their teeth. No foresight, no caution, just bumbling their way to success. Of course Jyn was watching from a distance.

The issue with your point at 9:18 is that the story in a New Hope is that Vader is equal or subordinate to Tarkin who manages the deathstar. To replace Tarkin with Vader in Rouge One wouldnt canonically make any sense and as such is only something you are creating for the necessity of the plot or because of CGI limits and not because it fits within the wider narrative of the starwars universe. Essentially you're ignoring story consistency and effective world building because you think Tarkin looks a bit off.

I feel I have the exact opposite reaction to a lot of these points, particularly the one about the ambiguity of help arriving. Rogue One to me feels like a mix of a movie and a WWII documentary in that you already know the end result so no matter what there’s no ambiguity to the fact that help is coming. More so, the story is less about the characters here and more about the events. I thought seeing every step of the Scarif battle was awesome and felt exactly like an old war reel. The pilots scrambling their fighters, the fleet moving into formation, then the chaos of battle with occasional focuses on notable individuals and finally the decisive turn in the battle where we know that they’ve managed to win a costly victory.

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9:08 Lemony Snicket was the author, you mean Lemony Snicket's Monster

Honestly Grand Moff Tarkin is one of my favourite characters in all of Star Wars, I just love how sinister he was and how well he was acted, mad respect to Peter Cushing, rest in peace.

Scenes in which people escape by the skin of their teeth are fun when they don't happen all the time. It's good to have scenes in which the main characters have logically managed to escape the situation quickly and quietly.

There's a lot more to film-making than tension and suspense: the first scene isn't supposed to make you feel suspense, but inevitability and helplessness as she has to escape without helping her family; if Jyn were in danger, it would distract from that. The final battle is about solidarity and hope, and the emotions of the viewer come from the disparity created by watching the protagonists in despair, knowing that the rebels are coming. Chirrut is a powerful screen presence and sympathetic character because he isn't a Jedi, just a man with his stick and his faith, and it brings to bear the absence of the Jedi that he can't be one, even though he would clearly make a much better and more honest Jedi than any real Jedi in the franchise; the result is that the power of the force is still present to guide events towards their (obviously inevitable, since this is a prequel) conclusion when everything seems chaotic and disordered. Overall, you seem to be arguing that film-makers should crack every nut with a sledgehammer, but their goals are more subtle, and the result more deeply felt.

Uh I hard disagree that Rise of Skywalker’s “save the day” moment works. It’s played way more paint the numbers than anything else.

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That was Vader's Best scene of all 9 movies in the series. Shows him at the Apex of his power.

"We know the cavalry is coming ...." Unfortunately, we know the ending of the story, making the entire film superfluous. Therefore, it's not as terrible an issue when the director aims for spectacle as opposed to suspense. It's not like getting the Deathstar plans was ever in question; the only thing to discover is, "How?"

That title is some fighting words mate.

I accept all of your points except Vader filling the role of Tarkin. The lack of Vader in the film is what makes the last scene so great

Watching the various major rebel groups come together into the Rebel Alliance and making the decision to mobilize was probably one of the most important scenes. That was far more important to the series as a whole than the momentary false tension of "Oh no, they're in trouble". Watching them mobilize was certainly far better than the Rebel Fleet just sorta appearing for no reason at all.

Rogue One is a great movie. It’s also the best Disney Star Wars movie we’ve gotten so far.

"We don't need to know their mothers' names." That almost sounds like a critical role reference.

Adding the lightsaber completely ruines Chirrut, it cheapens his ability IMO

I think the analysis misses the tension that exists in Rogue One: We know the ending from the beginning. We know "Bothans (spys) died to get this information". We know how it's going to end, so instead of making it look like they might loose then giving us the resounding victory as in other movies, this one gives us hope by showing the rebels getting ready and showing up, even though we know how it will end.

This might not be relevant, but I still think Rogue One has the best space battle in the saga/franchise thus far. Edit: Episode 3’s opening battle is a close second for me but I put this one on top as it focuses more on lots of different pilots than just a main one or two for the most part (ie. Obi-Wan and Anakin).

You place too much importance on tension. There are other qualities a sequence can bring to the table. We already know they succeed in acquiring the plans (exactly why this scene coming out of nowhere last minute is so brilliant). To me this scene isn't even tense at all. They are already dead, as you said. It's the drama of it, the thought that they came that close to failure, that gives me chills when I watch this scene. You dead lost me when you started going on about the characters being shallow archetypes. I encourage you to reconsider that stance. The characters are all about motives. It's discovering how subtly yet incredibly well their motives are conveyed upon revisiting the film that impacts me most. They all had a reason to die to stop the Empire, and the film wants you to consider that knowing full well they are doomed - so any attempts to add tension would have been a wasted quality, and only taken audience attention away from the comtemplation of meaning behind their sacrifices. Jyn isn't emotional because she was close to her father, she is emotional because she had to grow up without him and the loss of their short relationship in her youth robbed her of purpose in life, and she felt wrong to have lived that way when he spent his life suffering slander and doing what he could when she'd given up. This is Star Wars by George Lucas' book, not by Gary Kurtz's. George wants to tell a story to think about, not to give you a euphoric experience. George only did it in Clones because using them for a last minute salvation immediately psychologically puts the audience on the side of "the clones are good" when the rest of the film is heavily implying that the clone army is not exactly a good thing, or even a sensible thing to make use of. It's whatever is in service of the primary thematic focal point of the film. Showing the rebels gearing up is in service of emphasizing motives. If they had to sacrifice that angle to create unnecessary tension, I'd consider that poor story telling. And Donnie Yen only wanted the role if he could be more than a dude who was good at fighting, and almost turned down the role when he discovered a fight scene until the director came out and said, okay but what if he was blind and trusted the Force to see? Also he is not a Jedi, he is an example of how the Force is not exclusive to the Jedi but rather flows through all things and thus is not lost to the galaxy simply because the Jedi are gone.

The intensity at the end with Vader's slaughter and the Rebel's desperation was necessary because it is the part of the story we all wondered had been going on before the start of Episode IV: A New Hope. This was a 'now for the rest of the story' moment for us old-timers! We who remember relishing the mystery that we'd just come into the middle of something bad when we first saw the 'Original Star Wars'! The implication in the Episode IV crawl was that the battle to smuggle out the Death Star plans had been a desperate and costly one. I always wondered how desperate and how costly that victory was and Rogue One answered that beautifully. The tension from Rogue One's ending to the beginning of A New Hope carries over well, in my opinion. The pursuit, the short space battle, the tense and spooky capturing of the Tantive IV, and then the vicious take-over and ransacking of the Rebels when Vader and his 501st come aboard all carry over from the Corridor Slaughter scene. The intensity of Vader's anger and hate with poor Captain Antillies as Vader crushes his neck and dashes him against the wall is also answered by the corridor scene. Rogue One is the best of the new Disney Star Wars films yet made. It was, actually, the only story worth telling because it filled a hole in the original story. The Solo film was also quite good and should be revisited as it covers a lot of the Han Solo mythos quite lovingly. I think it is a mistake not to carry on with that story since Maul's continued involvement in Galactic history needs some explaining, particularly since he played such a big roll in the Rebels storyline. But that is a discussion for another topic.

I understand what you’re saying, but I heavily disagree. Mainly with your point about the rebels preparing to fight compared to episodes 2 and 9. For me there wasn’t much tension for either of these cases in terms of backup arriving. In episode two I at least figured it was obvious Yoda would show up with an army, or that at least the Jedi would be all alright, as there’s still an entire film to go for the trilogy and killing dozens of Jedi would feel out of place after such a heavy action sequence. There’s no tension. In episode 9 it’s blatantly obvious that Lando will return with backup because at this point with Star Wars I predicted that as soon as Fin mentioned it. No tension there for me either. With Rouge 1, it’s not about are they coming, it’s about can Rouge team survive long enough for backup. That’s what the entire film was about, living long enough to do your duty. And it worked for me

while I disagree I understand the argument

The movie had to use a transmission because that's how A New Hope says the Alliance got the Death Star plans.

I really think Donnie Yens character is one of the best in the movie. The whole point of him not being a jedi is great! Like the force is a power that isn't reserved for the Jedi or Sith to use. It shows that force sensetive people throughout the galaxy can develop different sets of skills, like the nightbrothers and sisters on Dathomir.

The other big point we're forgetting is that putting Vader on the beach also means changing the fate of the characters. It would only work if the rebels made it off the planet. Vader wouldve died on the beach along with the rest of them if he was there

10:47 I think that this is a false equivalency. Rogue One isn't an appetizer, main, dessert movie structure. It's more of a two appetizer, and then a main movie. The best part of the meal should be the climax, and Rogue One's climax is the 3rd act. I think your comparison undercuts the value of the third act compared to the first two.

7:32 Damn for some reason I never put together/realized that Krenic was killed by a DIRECT shot from the death star hitting the top of the tower

I love how Vader used the force to redirect a blaster bolt back into the rebel soldier.

Everyone knew how the film was going to end so it's very hard to create tension under those circumstances and if you put Vader in charge of Scarif, then you make him impossibly bad at his job. He loses the Death Star plans, then lets the Death Star get blown up. A massive failure. But I digress. This wasn't a movie about characters. It was a movie about an idea. These were just ordinary soldiers who took on an impossible task and gave their lives for that idea. None of them are super soldiers that can force jump and deflect blaster fire. Jyn's motivation is simple; she wants to clear her father's name, but over the course of the story she meets others who are also fighting for their families, but in different ways. I know I'm gonna catch all the Hell, but everyone in Rogue One is fighting to save. what. they. love. Every movie is flawed; stop looking for perfection in art or you're going to live a very unfulfilling life. Rogue One is an excellent Star Wars film.

"There is no tension in an invisible transmission being sent thousands of miles." correct for this movie, but what about SOS signals and other time sensitive macguffins?

So what you're saying is, it's not the worst scene lol

Honestly, I did want more Tarkin because he is honestly one of the most fascinating and underused characters in the franchise, at least on screen.

I actually enjoyed the movie quite a lot. But I get where you're coming from with this scene showing how poor the rest of the movie might seem. Yes the first two acts have a lot of problems in them but overall I enjoyed it. I was happy to see Saw's ending. You can sort of see how he's fallen in his ways and how affected he was by the events of the clone wars. I agree with Vader's final scene being the best the movie has to offer for sure along with the best pun our boi Vader has ever produced. "Be careful not to choke on your aspirations director" - priceless

Can’t wait for Rogue Two: A Eulogy for Bothans.

"He looks like Lemony Snicket" That's actually Count Olaf but okay

"He looks like Lemony Snicket." *Visible Confusion*

The main characters were originally planned to be the ones in the corridor. But they felt it was too gruesome for all the main cast to die by Vader in one fell swoop.

He’s not on the beach because he still hates sand.😄

it’s well established that there are plenty of Force-wielding groups and peoples besides the jedi and sith.

I love it when content creators present their opinion like they are an expert in the industry, or even like they have all the right answers.

When Young Jyn ran away from the death Troopers, if it was a last second hide away it would have been too cliché. I agree that the tension should have been better, like maybe the death troopers were close to finding her then Saw saved her or something.

I think the "at the last moment" thing makes situations feel unrealistic, I liked the opening of rogue one haha

K-2SO had plenty of personality though. Most of it comes through jokes about being a robot, but he has more conjured more emotion than the rest of the cast. Good character, imo.

"...almighty battle against good and evil..." What.

Vader : i killed them in the hallway Maul: I killed them with the hallway

Wish this was an April’s fools my dude. It’s a good film

4:35 In Episode IX we actually know because Disney had the great idea to show the scene with all the ships in a trailer

I like the Rogue One scenes because of the setup, for me when movies suddenly provide the heros with an escape or sudden backup it feels rushed, I feel like the setup also helps the viewers in the darth Vader scene as we see the amount of effort the rebels are putting in to retrieve the plans until Vader comes in and starts to do his thing, it works well but thats just my opinion

I’m glad they brought back Tarkin’s character. That dude was scary af when I was growing up. I also agree with the main characters being the ones stuck in the corridor for the Vader scene. So much more on the line. Do any of them survive? With throw away characters it’s almost a lock they’re all dead the second you hear breathing.

9:09 You say that the CGI Tarkin looks like Lemony Snicket yet you seem to be referring to Count Olaf instead based on the movie poster you pulled up

I get FFV's criticism, I really do. But some stories are meant to live and die by their final act, and Rogue One is such a story.

Just realized I forgot to put this in 2x speed. Thank you for talking fast.

I fully love this movie, but I enjoy your commentary as well. I like how you gave a disclaimer of how your criticism ought not to ruin anyone's enjoyment. I agreed with a great deal of it, and it's interesting to hear you speak. Also, cool job with the visual stuff, like Chirrut using a lightsaber.

The dark side is a pathway to many abilities some consider unnatural...

I feel like your singing two songs here. On one hand your saying that you want it to be unique, while on the other your complaining that Donnie Yen is not a Jedi and that it isn't like ep 2&9 where you don't know if the cavalry is coming.

The Vader killing rebels scene is meant to be the epilogue of the movie to lead us into New Hope.

Not to sound like an apologist but, as much as I love the third act like everyone else, I really enjoy the first two acts as well. The first one, though choppy, sets up the characters and their abilities/relationships to each other, culminating in the awesome destruction of Jedah. The second act just builds the action & tension further before we finally get to Scarif. I remember watching it in the cinema and when they’re trying to stop the X-Wings attacking the Eadu base, I genuinely gasped at the line “they’re already engaged” as I knew shit was going to go down. It’s a film that gradually grows in scale as it goes on, and it leaves me on such a high note afterwards that it makes the whole journey feel worthwhile

Personally Rogue 1 is my favourite Star Wars movie, I thought it was a lot more interesting than a lot of the main story ones(plus I love a movie where the heroes die saving the day)

Except we do know about Lando's success, because it's in the trailers

That is pretty much the scene that makes the whole movie worth. 5:11 Also, the audience KNOWS the cavalry is coming because it is the most overused trope ever. Everyone and their grandma knew in this scene from _Attack of the Clones_ that a Deus EX Machina moment would happen.

This was by far the best movie ever with an attachment to Disney !It still Star Wars !

"WELL, WHY DID YOU LIKE DINNER IF YOU ONLY ATE THE DESSERT, DIANE?!?!" Killed me. XD

Imagine not thinking this film is tense. Like damn they do the all hope lost moment like 4 times

This is my favorite Star Wars movie ever. So you know where I stand on your opinion of the film. I worked at a theater when this came out so I watched it like ten times. This movie makes you feel the desperation of the rebellion and it makes you feel the sacrifices of many just to get the plans. And there is so much more fighting and death to come. I just feel like the characters were constructed different than usual. It’s more realistic because you can tell everyone has different motivations but they all make the hard choice in the end. If one person didn’t make their sacrifice then they fail. If you’ve ever competed in high caliber competition then you know the feeling of everyone making sacrifices in order to win the chip. This movie gives you the feeling of an underdog team digging deep to pull out an improbable win. Another analogy I could use is college football. Clemson for example has been winning nattys recently but their program was built by teams who couldn’t win it all but made large strides forward and opened the door for the championship teams to come later. The rebels that die didn’t win the war but they set up the opportunity for Luke to win later

You made a good point about the scene having tension. We all knew they made it out with the plans but I was still on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happens.

"The most memorable things about these characters are there skill-set and abilities" That's totally fine, as long as we're talking about playable classes in a video game

"Dont need to know their mothers name" "MARTHAAAAA"

My favorite scenes other than the battles were actually the Imperial scenes we see different aspects of the Imperial military machine we see them at one point doing garrison duty in a city policing it wee see the internal struggles high ranking Imperial officers have and what they are willing to do we see them get stressed when they encounter doom we see how their facilities function and what do they look like before the hammerhead corvette smashed the two battleships into each other we saw the terror and stress in them

I'm not sure I agree that it's inherently less tense to know that backup is arriving. One of the best books I've ever read has this sort of setup - a defending force has to endure a siege until another army arrives to provide relief. The issue? It's going to take a week. They reckon they could only withstand the siege for 3 or 4 days maybe. The tension there isn't about whether the backup will arrive. It's whether they'll survive *long enough* for the backup to arrive

All that you say is true, yet this movie is still my favorite Star Wars movie. (tied with Revenge of the Sith)

7:33 I literally only just noticed that Krennic got vaporised by the laser before it hit Scarif...

"Wandering around the galaxy looking for the plot." Best line of the video XD.

I also feel like the last scene with Vader would be more powerful if it was the movies only scene with Vader. Imagine you spend the entire movie with no jedi, no sith. Just soldiers, freedom fighters, and a psychic at most. Then, you hear the labored breathing, and the red lightsaber turns on. To me, that would make the scene much more impactful

Feels like the title should be: "Vader Breaks Rogue One"

I really bloody enjoyed rogue one myself

Watched 3 of your videos and there is a reason I haven’t mashed the subscribe button.

I think Darth Vader not having such a significant role up until that badass corridor scene is what helped make it so amazing. All throughout the film we see him. And we all know what he is after, and we all know how the movie is supposed to end: directly where Episode 4 begins; which means he will get a big scene towards the end. Seeing the rebels scurrying around that iconic hallway on the transport. All of a sudden stopping, and turning to face the darkness at the end of the hall with their blasters drawn. The viewer can't see through the pitch black, just like the soldiers. Then we see the red glow of Vader's lightsaber illuminate the hallway. That is fantastic work by Disney, and as much as I would've loved to see Vader duking it out on the frontlines on some of those battle scenes: I think it was better this way, as it helped amplify the badassery of that final act. Just my two cents. Fantastic vid man.