Van Halen Vault. Whats In It? Engineer Brian Kehew explains. Sunset Sound Roundtable Ep.1

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Van Halen's legendary vault has always been a source of wonder and amazement, and who better than Engineer, Producer, Author, and Van Halen Historian Brian Kehew to take on the task of exploring it? In Episode 1 of The Sunset Sound Roundtable, we sit down with Brian in the iconic Studio 2 at Sunset Sound Recorders, where all the VH magic happened, for a fascinating and informative discussion. Having been given the opportunity to go through all the Van Halen outtakes and unreleased audio, Brian graciously accepted our invitation to share his extensive knowledge and insights on Van Halen and the treasures that lay within the vault. The conversation was so good that we have also released Episode 2 and 2.5 installments of this interview. Long live Van Halen and thanks to Brian for his contribution!
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@glengamble526 3 года назад

To answer the question at 20:15 Ted Templeman DID push to have covers almost always, as he had a theory that a song that’s been a hit once can easily do it again. He talks about it his book. And of course, this gentleman is right too-sometimes they were just short of material so they recorded cover songs.

@zzyzxx13 2 года назад

The best tracks on Diver Down were the covers. The only original track I liked on the album was "Hang 'Em High". The covers saved that album, imo. The only thing that made the album difficult to listen to all the way through was the sequencing -- something I fixed when I burned the album to CD.

@vanshipman 2 года назад

Warner Brothers was pressuring them to release something really fast because of the single they recorded, Roy Orbison’s “Pretty Woman.” I love the equal mix of covers and original. Little Guitars is incredible and I’m pretty sure was written then, along with “The Full Bug.” “Hang ‘Em High,”was an old one they had written previously entitled “Last Night.” As a huge fan of VH’s original work, I would’ve preferred all new tunes, but I think it was a smart move at the time from Ted to do the covers. The previous album Fair Warning (my all time favorite) did not sell as well as the others. Diver Down set the band up for the brilliant 1984. I love all of these roundtable discussions of all things Van Halen. 👏🏻

@KevinElliot-ni4lb Год назад

It would've made more sense to not release diver down and go straight into 1984 with eddie's dancing in the street riff turned into a van halen original@@zzyzxx13

@gtrrobster 8 месяцев назад

@@zzyzxx13 I don't know about that. Little guitars is a great one. Full Bug. Lots of great originals on DD.

@InFRA_BLaKK_AMBRA_isTrueMetal 6 месяцев назад

@zzyzxx13 I feel pretty much the same about the songs, in coolness/heaviness....I'm still like a Deer in the Headlights when listening "Hang Em' High" , Still Amazed at How Seriously ~HEAVY~, "Heavy Metal" this Van Halen Brothers "Hang Em' High" Track Sounds!? coming out of Van Halen in 1982...although "Little Guitars" is at least worth mention, and David Lee Roth's Shuffle/Swing Rock "Secrets" is an alright well made song....but it Certainly ISN'T what you really want to hear from a Band as Capable and Ferocious as the Van Halen Brothers...but again David Lee Roths "Secrets" (Diver Down/VH 1982) wasn't/isn't too terrible either

@froloffanton 3 года назад

Think of all the lousy bands from the 80s who have all their tours documented on pro shot releases. We VH fans have only two or three bootlegs with bad quality. If that isn't a crime, I don't know what is.

@commentfreely5443 3 года назад

eddie lived in a studio in his house for 30 years. he'd better have recorded shit. i've recorded 200 songs in my house and i'm not 50.

@aguest4408 3 года назад

@@commentfreely5443 I read yesterday in a couple of places including an online RS interview that there are close to a million cds of Ed's work at 5150 containing decades of playing, including original music, not just outtakes, unheard, uncatalogued, unknown recordings but Ed said it was every genre not just rock including jazz, classic, world music, etc. as he noodled around and just constantly recorded. Al and Wolf are eventually going to start going through it archiving to find out what's there. Also Warner Bros say they have 4 albums worth of usable material. I sure hope all of this comes to fruition.

@jacobhouser7672 3 года назад

@Bob Bielski they need to release everything. Nobody cares about the quality, we just want to hear

@whatyoumakeofit6635 3 года назад

@@commentfreely5443 from what few video clips of eddies house and studio ive seen, eddie had walls and walls full of tapes, discs, and hard drives full of music. I remember him being interviewed by a guy and pointing up to a shelve ( about 9 foot up, not even the top ) and said " right up there is the recordings from such n such tour.

@ziggylayneable 3 года назад

@@jacobhouser7672 your God damn right brother!

@ajaybangi 3 года назад

He was hired to go thru all those VH stuff? What kinda dream job is that??

@MrArtist1971 3 года назад

Eddie meeting Randy Rhoads in the afterlife . . . Eddie: Hey Randy. Randy: Man can you believe it? Eddie: What? Randy: Ozzie outlived us both.

@foggyblues13 3 года назад

LMAO

@walterevans2118 3 года назад

Eddie would be saying to Randy (while they both tuned their 'harp guitars').....'Well Randy, you may have gone out early but at least you went out with a BANG...And what's Keith Richard still doing on Earth ?...Stairway to Heaven ,,,Guitar capo anyone'?......lol

@rgbrin 3 года назад

and Kieth Richards is still alive

@walterevans2118 3 года назад

exactly....lol

@ziggylayneable 3 года назад

Anybody ever see that meme of Keith Richards with the red eyes?.. that man's going to live to be 142 years old.

@insidethemusicalmind7207 3 года назад

I need to hear this stuff. Not to mentioned those demo tapes not just remastered, but re-mixed? Take my money!

@maxxkarma 3 года назад

It is all on youtube.

@DVincentW 3 года назад

If remixed, have Al Mike and Wolf involved.

@CentaurusRelax314 3 года назад

He said it-it was always all about *the songs.* Everyone who wants to tear down the 'legend' of EVH will invoke the name of some other player, and how that guy does such and such 'better.' But, those guys might be technicians of the highest order, but they didn't innovate and they didn't write music like Edward and Dave.

@emilsunter3596 3 года назад

You’re so right! Whenever that type of discussion has presented itself to me, my answer is always, “Those guys learned how to play that, EVH just sat down and was able to PLAY that!” The greatest innovate and musician of our similar aged lifetime.

@imaginaryfriend9655 3 года назад

and Write like Eddie and Sammy either...

@CentaurusRelax314 3 года назад

@@imaginaryfriend9655 Yeah, I really don’t think the Sammy era songs stand up to the earlier VH standard. Completely different character. Actually, the only SamHalen song I like is Finish What You Started. Which is interesting, as someone who *loves* Roth-era stuff and who thinks Eddie was/is the greatest ever. I can’t think of any other guitar players who I feel so drastically different about, from one _period_ to another.

@billk9628 2 года назад

@@CentaurusRelax314 I can only think of one, and it was after Eddie,,,,, DIME! He changed metal for generations to come! That's why Eddie gave up his "Franken strat" for Dime's burial. It went with Dime to the grave! Never to be seen again! How much more can you honor a person? From one legend to another! Pass it on! God has a house full of greats! Music transends all! Even in heaven!

@darrenwilburn239 2 года назад

Had he wanted to EVH could have easily produced the guitar gymnastics that others did after him. EVH was able to take the maximum amount of guitar virtuosity and make it work in pop songs that anyone could enjoy. That’s the secret. Like you said it’s about the songs. Sure Vai and Malmsteen have their thing but outside true guitar nuts good luck getting people to truly appreciate that style. Everyone can throw a Van Halen song on and connect. Virtuosity that anyone can connect too. Something few have been able to achieve.

@WhizMitchell 3 года назад

As a longtime VH mega-fan, it's great to hear that VH has about 4 cds worth of usable stuff in the vault. This is just at Warner Bros...then there is stuff they recorded at Ed's studio 5150 also!

@adamjones142 3 года назад

Eddie meeting Randy Rhoads in the afterlife . . . Eddie: Hey Randy. Randy: Man can you believe it? Eddie: What? Randy: Ozzie outlived us both.

@gregbaldwin5144 2 года назад

We can only hope Wolf digs up a lot of stuff from 5150 studio in the coming years🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@JorshWarshington1 2 года назад

Listen to the Dwyer & Michaels interviews. Radio guys from the Quad Cities. They got Eddie's number and called him. He actually picked up and talked for a while. They ended up talking a few more times. Nobody talked to Eddie at this time. Really cool stuff.

@Gratefulman1965 2 года назад

Their is a video with Wolf and he’s at 5150 and he shows all the material archived from Ed and Wolf did say at some point he will work on putting material together and releasing it. Wolf was asked how much material is stored and he says tons a whole bunch, my dad was always writing and recording. Looking forward to that stuff seeing the light of day.🎶

@NormVW2013 3 года назад

I'll pay for outtakes of EVH any day.

@jojomcgee3430 3 года назад

I would too! Hopefully Wolfie will change his mind about the tapes that are at 5150 and release some of that stuff. I saw an interview he said he wouldn't because all the good stuff is out on the albums.

@ChewieEst 3 года назад

@@jojomcgee3430 I think a lot of it is having time to go through the sheer volume of it, especially since the computer that had the tapes catalogued crashed!

@jimmyz2098 3 года назад

Me too. I'd pay legit cash to get my hands on some more Van Halen music that I haven't heard.

@MrSkinkarde 2 года назад

Why? Makes no sense

@luthiervandros 2 года назад

I’d love to hear their stuff before they landed a major producer.

@grindhouserob 3 года назад

I'm not a music engineer or musician but it's always fascinating to hear the creative process of how some stuff was made.

@MrAlanj23 3 года назад

Thank you for this. As a Van Halen fan, an engineer and a guitarist this was really cool to listen to.

@ervinrobinson6711 3 года назад

I still love Van Halen like I did in my teenage years. And I'm 57. Can't say that about most of the other bands I liked back then. It brings back great memories. I thought Wolfgang was making an album. I remember reading an interview w/Eddie talking about it. He was really proud of him. Anyways, can't wait for the next episode. It's really nice to hear you guys talk about one of the greatest bands ever. Take it easy

@ianweir2115 3 года назад

2 songs from Mammoth WVH great, that album will be very good.

@ianweir2115 3 года назад

Distance and YTB(Your to Blame) Sounds like his time period rock/Goo Goos meet Daultry meets Evanescence(all 3 of those bands have great song writing, so does Mammoth WVH)he got that from his Dad.

@SquirrelTheater 3 года назад

Wolf’s song “You’re To Blame” is GREAT!!!! He’s playing all of the instruments and singing!!

@coldwinter5710 3 года назад

Wolf is a musical prodigy, just like his Dad & Uncle. He will do "very well" in his career, which is about to explode in the coming months, with the release if his full album.

@ianweir2115 3 года назад

@@coldwinter5710 hope your right, the music industry needs a new rock star. Why not EVH son?

@TheCjbowman 3 года назад

"that's why those records sound so good; Van Halen really were THAT good" well said. 🤘

@saffertb 3 года назад

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@saffertb 3 года назад

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@mixerchris1275 3 года назад

“ that’s why those records sound so good; Van Halen really were THAT good.” well said. 🤘😜👍

@anthonyherron2242 3 года назад

F'n A bud!! I've been collecting unreleased rare than Herron CD and DVDs for 10 years now they have a lot but there's got to be a lot more recordings. When Al and Wolf decide for fans to hear a sneak peek or at least some of it. Prayers that they do, I want to hear more of the recordings Edward "THE KING" has done because he has been a lifelong hero and my musical inspiration and also the reason I picked up the guitar at age 9.

@jimmyz2098 3 года назад

@@anthonyherron2242 Absolutely! Yes Sir.

@robintaylor4249 3 года назад

Who was in charge of 💡 lights? Fire them

@emiromiranda1214 3 года назад

Lol. I thought it was my phone at first.

@meiowalot7570 3 года назад

I thought it was just me. This hurts to look at.

@NormVW2013 3 года назад

You guys need to get Ted templeman and Don Landee into this conversation.

@sunsetsoundrecorders 3 года назад

Stay tuned

@bigwayno 3 года назад

@@sunsetsoundrecorders YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! #BatedBreath

@slightleeguitarded8787 3 года назад

Yeah exactly why get people to sit around and speculate what went on back then why don't you just talk to the people who were actually there.

@konrandmierze8067 3 года назад

There are at least demos for a second album with Cherone, would be interesting to hear. Supposedly those songs were an improvement as they got more familiar with each other.

@danielmiddleman8613 3 года назад

@@konrandmierze8067 That would be interesting to hear. I wasn't that impressed with that album. To me it sounded like it should have been an EVH solo album. Seemed to me like EVH was starting to buy too much of his own press at that point.

@duckydrummer6331 2 года назад

They mention the book Van Halen Rising by Greg Renoff as the go to book about Van Halen. I couldn’t disagree more. I read that book and 95% of it is based on magazine interviews or in person interviews or people who knew people that knew someone who may have knew a roadie, etc. The author of the book never even knew the band. The best book on Van Halen/the David Lee Roth years, is “Running with The Devil” by Noel Monk. Noel was VH’s first road manager and later became the band’s manager. He was there from day one. He knew the guys before they became rock stars. That book is great. It has numerous behind the scene stories and how the band toured, ate, slept and fought. I have reread it numerous times.

@mikewallace1270 2 года назад

Thanks for the recommendation. I just finished Van Halen Rising and absolutely loved it. I have to disagree with your description of the book. There were mostly people with direct interactions with the band in the book. However I'm going to read Running With the Devil next

@ErikStone1 3 года назад

LOL, no one wanted to tell Brian that Van Halen III is NOT "Women and Children First".

@TheMadness5150 3 года назад

Just guessing.. maybe he calls it that way because it was Van Halen's 3rd album? Or, dunno, at the time they thought it was going to be called that way and he kept calling it that way..

@geoffallard7718 3 года назад

Haha, yeah but they couldn't take it anymore when he was calling "Could This Be Magic" "Women And Children First". Lol. Uh oh, now I forgot...that might be from the 2nd interview

@OFR 3 года назад

That's it 1 is Van Halen. 2 is Van Halen 2. WCF is 3.

@ErikStone1 3 года назад

@@OFR Right! The album "Van Halen III" is the late 90s album with Gary Cherone singing.

@johncolletti 2 года назад

“The Wild Life” wasn’t a Sean Penn movie. It was a Chris Penn , his brother. Movie

@Musicsports 3 года назад

All the Sammy stuff was a huge departure. That era really reinvented the group.

@nighttigercomics7323 3 года назад

I'm a huge Ssmmy fan but his era of VH is not memorable. When someone invokes VH name it takes a few minutes before someone will interject "what about Sammy?"

@crisrose521 3 года назад

WRONG . lol . The first Demos of VH were made in New York under the guidance of Gene Simmons who , along with Paul Stanley saw them in Hollywood at the Starwood or Trubedour . Templeman was brought in after Simmons released them from the contract because he couldn’t find them a deal .

@jonathanhathaway7796 3 года назад

The Warner Bros. demos from 1977 has been out for quite a while now, and in much better quality than when it first appeared (shorter) on boot cd's in the 90's, but is this gentleman saying here that they remixed it? That would be a great new release if they did. I've collected bootlegs since the 70s but a lot of fans don't realize that there are so many recordings of VH's early years.

@furnitureconsortium 3 года назад

hearing stuff on bootleg is one thing.....Kehew actually found the source material of those demos and not only that, but he found the multi-tracks to those demos...so taking those raw stems, he remixed it to sound as close to the first album as possible. That would be a hell of a listen!

@danielmiddleman8613 3 года назад

I'd like to heard Templeman or Landee comment on Kehew saying he thinks EVH's sound was split between two different types of cabinets. Never heard that before.

@eisbaellsche175 2 года назад

Have you ever seen the video of this genius swedish guy, where he is testing a Van Halen like setup (Plexi in one 4x12 with different speakers in it)? You hear the Van Halen sound immediately...

@theschwartz3 3 года назад

Fantastic insights and recollections!! I've been watching VH tributes etc since EVH passed and this is by far the most insightful, educational and entertaining video on the VH legend.

@sunsetsoundrecorders 3 года назад

That’s so rad!! Thanks. Make sure to subscribe . Lot more to come 🤘

@Randor10 3 года назад

Agreed. This guy is incredible and he speaks so well.

@spooge33 3 года назад

Hence the problem with record companies. They own you and they don't even know what they have. Eff them.

@bumzigan 3 года назад

So good to hear Alex and Mike getting credit from someone who really know how important they were to Van Halen being successful. I also agree that Alex was so on top of his game in the later years, he was the best on stage. It is unlikely that Alex will do anything now Ed is gone, but he certainly can hold his own.

@YTiswoke 2 года назад

Imagine Wolf , Uncle Al and Mike doing something.......it would be awesome if it was to happen. Wolf and Mike handle Guitar Bass and Vocals , Al on drums........just an idea...

@crisrose521 3 года назад

Gene Simmons always said that Yngwie couldn’t touch Eddie because he couldn’t write a “ song “ like him

@jimmyz2098 3 года назад

Pure truth. Eddie was a guitar genius. A world-class musician, in general. But his greatest gift might have been his ability to write music that changed the World. When you add all of it up.... you get Edward Van Halen. A true genius. There will never be another quite like him.

@jasong546 3 года назад

I was just listening to dirty movies and a couple of others. Loud through great speakers, and no one from the 70’s had such thick rich tones top to bottom, and sorry to haters, but Dave sang fantastically on some of those tracks with a Smokey soul I don’t hear in rock from the time. He was often so funny and showmanship was a thing that makes people not hear how great he sounds on the tunes. Mikes bass is so incredibly heavy if often simple sounding, just perfect. The ideas Ed and Alex add are often just so surprising and engaging and badass. That’s the songwriting that gets sort of overshadowed by the guitar hero. Amazing!!!

@mikewallace1270 2 года назад

I've always loved Dave vocals. Some of my favorite rock vocals of all time. It's his passion and emotion and intensity in his vocals that strike a chord with me. And also he did extraordinarily difficult vocal acrobatics but he never gets credit for. Those incredible screams and his amazing rhythm as a singer.

@trailerparkvampire436 3 года назад

Put out a Box set of all this unreleased VH gems.

@mojodojo5533 3 года назад

Hell that would go platinum!

@emilsunter3596 3 года назад

There is word from Eddie’s friend and Engineer, that’s there is THOUSANDS of songs, music, and guitar solos, in Eddie’s 5150 home studios vault. Maybe when AVH, and Wolfie are recovered enough from their devastating loss, they will share some, or all of them with the rest of us. RIP EVH, and God bless you AVH & WVH. Our hearts are broken too.

@jimmyz2098 3 года назад

I'd basically pay..... whatever for it. I don't care what the cost would be. I'd pay it. With zero hesitation.

@jimmyz2098 3 года назад

@@mojodojo5533 Absolutely. Without breaking a sweat.

@websitemad 3 года назад

Thank you, thank you, thank you! This was sooo good. To anyone who thinks they know it all about Van Halen, you need to see this. Loved the chilled filming style, I felt like I was sitting in there with you, just hearing all of this amazing detail for the first time...AND THERE’S A PART TWO! 😜

@Marshall-uy2dv 3 года назад

When Brian was asked if the sunset recordings sounded better than the 5150 recordings he mentioned the echo chamber at sunset is why he preferred the sunset recordings! That was fun and interesting to hear because I have mentioned that myself.That Echo chamber was a key component to those early recordings! It set the mood like on everybody wants some,sounds to me like they had all of the lights off while they were recording. The first 5 albums are great, all recorded at sunset sound but the first three had the largest amount of plate Reverb that made them sound huge!

@sethcashman1011 3 года назад

Totally agree about the mood created by the echo chamber. I always pictured them playing in the dark on the first three albums, as well. Wasn’t Diver Down recorded at Amigo, however?

@Marshall-uy2dv 3 года назад

@@sethcashman1011 Yes I guess it was! Learn something new everyday thanks for pointing that one out!

@ColtraneTaylor 3 года назад

I hate the first album sound as did Eddie himself. I don't mind it on the others and it sounds good on Fair Warning. But give me the 5150 albums on most days.

@ChromaticHarp 2 года назад

You just contradicted yourself. You said it was the echo chamber then you said it was plate reverb. DUH!!!

@johnmacbeth4148 3 года назад

Great stuff! I can listen to this all day. I would love go thru those tapes. Thanks for posting

@sunsetsoundrecorders 3 года назад

You’re welcome. Make sure to subscribe . Lot more to come 🤘

@timkeagy4094 2 года назад

Eddie said in an interview when he was promoting the Wolfgang products that he had the roadies during the club days take sound stage foam and duct tape over the amps and speakers so it would not blast people standing 5 feet away. I've wondered about the song Top Jimmy, if that was Dave thinking he is James Koneck. Top Jimmy and the Rhythm Pigs. I remember the first time I saw Van Halen. They were opening for Black Sabbath in the Midwest. After their show, Sabbath came out, played a couple songs and we walked out. Because we just heard the best band we ever saw in Van Halen. That was an amazing show.

@surfsunsand 3 года назад

Warner Bros should have had a VH concert and fly in all the DJs to see and hear VH. Cheaper and quicker way to gain support.

@csul5961 3 года назад

hell yes, an instrumental VH album :) i wish they would release VH3 with just instuments

@robosullivan704 3 года назад

I'm excited to hear anything Alex and Wolfie release from the old stuff... that would be awesome!!

@sadfasdsfgs5941 3 года назад

I'm not a music engineer or musician but it's always fascinating to hear the creative process of how some stuff was made.

@glengamble526 3 года назад

They also had planned on opening the fourth album with the fade-out riff instrumental GROWTH that ended Women and Children First. It faded out and was supposed to fade back in to start the Fair Warning album, but it never happened.

@tommymann69 3 года назад

Gene Simmons says he has a couple Van Halen demo tapes that he used to help them get their very first record contract with Warner Brothers

@patrickalloyssius9138 3 года назад

I released those gene simmons demos over 20 years ago

@ministerofdarkness 3 года назад

Van Halen! America’s greatest ROCK band of all time!! PLAY LOUD!

@jimmyz2098 3 года назад

Yes. Period. End of story. Nice, concise statement.

@orphanmanchu9963 3 года назад

despite the distaste for Cherone, i recall after they made VHIII they almost put together another album (and i recall the name was supposed to be Tabula Rasa, or something... i even recall seeing a picture of Michael Anthony holding a jewel case with the proposed album artwork). Despite whatever VHIII was like, I recall reading an interview with Gary more than a decade later saying in hindsight they should have just toured and played the DLR era songs nobody heard VH play for years, and then release an album, and that they went into the studio after VHIII and laid-down material much better than what they had released. Probably lots of frowns out there, but it might be worth it to hear what they almost released.

@ColtraneTaylor 3 года назад

Good news, if the 12th album was better than VH3. Also the 13th with Roth which also got shelved.

@suprchickn7745 3 года назад

I agree, getting Gary to sing out of his range with songs that were too long and a band which had potential but had no chemistry early on was a bad idea. I would love to hear anything where Eddie and the band are inspired!

@acebragg5559 3 года назад

If they're talking about the 1981 Oakland show, there is a full 16 track recording that was done by Wally Heider. That should definitely be released. The only film from that show is in fact the 3 songs that you can easily find here on RU-vid (The same ones you saw on MTV back in the day). No other songs were filmed from that show.

@GG-ju5mi 3 года назад

Yer kidding, I listen to Bootlegs all the time, Oakland film wise is not 3 songs most likely but where can I find this 16 track Wally Heiser version? Is it on RU-vid? It's too bad there wasn't any Full "PRO-SHOT" shows until/only the 5th Album (DIVER DOWN Tour) I think 3 or 4 shows complete show's, It's the only tour (Diver Down) with Pro-Shot, it's too bad eh, can u imagine a full Pro-Shot (VH 2/Women and Children First) show's.

@acebragg5559 3 года назад

@@GG-ju5mi I don't think there's a bootleg of that because it's an actual "official" recording. I actually misspoke. It's a 24 track recording from that show. It's currently in the vault at Pacific Titles. You can read about it here: ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-live-albums-wish-list/ If you want to see the inventory sheet, it's actually posted on the Steve Hoffman music forum here (post # 64) forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/unreleased-van-halen-whats-out-there.1004137/page-3

@chrisfg71 3 года назад

@@acebragg5559 I sorta recall Noel Monk on a podcast saying the audio of those 3 videos is from a pre-show record so Dave's vocals would sound useable. While I hope those 16 reels are of the two full shows, it's possible alot of it is multiple pre-show takes as well as the 3 songs live. Maybe Noel's memory of it is off, but it certainly would make sense.

@DrummingMan1 3 года назад

A lot of that VH1 stuff is showing up on the tube since Eddie’s passing! Insightful chat gentlemen! I particularly agreed with the comments regarding their struggle for stardom not having the elusive hit! First time I saw them, was in Edmonton during the van Halen two tour! Edmonton, Alberta Canada! 16,000 seat arena cut down to what they used to call a concert bawl! You know, 8000 seats per say. What a show! Can’t quite remember, I’ve seen them on every tour through town! I think it was either Rail or, the Fabulous Poodles opening for them. They always had these off-the-wall openers in Canada like… Cool and the Gang etc. Fun and insightful conversation, Thank you!

@sunsetsoundrecorders 3 года назад

WE UNDERSTAND ONE OF THE CAMERAS WAS SHOT IN RAW footage. PLEASE ENJOY THE CONTENT. WE KNOW THE ONE CAMERA WASNT COLORED CORRECTLY. WE GET IT!

@mrDCunningham 3 года назад

This is great. Its about the band and what your doing now. I love it. Thank you for this.

@sunsetsoundrecorders 3 года назад

@@mrDCunningham ❤️🙏🔥

@lukepranger1145 3 года назад

@@sunsetsoundrecorders Mesmerizing discussion. Really enjoyed it. Thank you.

@Wichert74 3 года назад

Don't mind the bs, thanx for posting!

@johnmorrison8618 3 года назад

Saul good, we look to you for exceptional audio not video

@JoeyRapps1 3 года назад

@35:22 is the guy bringing up "Van Halen III" referring to WACF or the Gary Cherone album? If its the former, does that make Diver Down = Van Halen IV and so on? If it was the latter, why didn't he clear up the confusion? Then Kehew says "Women And Children First" is LITERALLY his FAVORITE VH song. Really?? Out of the ENTIRE catalog? And does he mean "Could This Be Magic?" Which I argue is a mashed up arrangement of TWO choruses. It's a fun little ditty but, best song ever? That part was just odd.

@ernestobonscott3509 3 года назад

Was curious if anyone else caught that. Pretty sure he was talking about Cherone's album. And I'm wondering where I can find this "Women and Children First" song? I also think he's talking about "Could This Be Magic".

@JoeyRapps1 3 года назад

@@ernestobonscott3509 yeah i also think he meant the Cherone album but was too starstruck to interrupt Kehew. His eyes were bugging out throughout the conversation lol @15:40. I also find it odd that the guy who was contracted to sift through old VH/Warner vault tapes doesn't know the correct title to his "favorite" VH song haha. And to the "White Album" wish, how many albums did Ed already play piano on? Not the world's first weird audio engineer lol. An interesting historical perspective of the mighty VH nonetheless.

@flapsnappy 3 года назад

He knows nothing about VH.

@greenalishi222 2 года назад

I'd love a release of those demos. Also the Gene Simmons demos. Some Dave live shows would be awesome

@defhoez449 Год назад

The demos Gene made are available here on You Tube.. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C-3b3TPgkOQ.html

@gamatron17 Год назад

where is bullet head? love to hear that one if it was recorded back then

@wilshaerer 3 года назад

VH fanatics noticed that music world reference VH first 3 albums, DAVE era ..

@aaronwood8012 3 года назад

There’s a box set of just demos and alternate takes there’s a box set of live stuff The a blu ray box of live concert footage There’s a box for the Sammy era There’s a box of Eddie jamming with all for hours on end

@hadleymanmusic 3 года назад

They came to municipal auditorium Shreveport La. Opened for Journey. I was too young but my guitar teacher said he came out just SCREAMIN GUITAR LIKE YOU NEVER SEEN BEFORE

@scottcolbert9190 3 года назад

My first concert was VanHalen at the Hirsch coliseum 5150 tour

@hadleymanmusic 3 года назад

@@scottcolbert9190 you know they built and rehearsed that tour there?

@topJimmyP1984 2 года назад

You guys should reach out to DLR. That would be cool!

@pjmtry7 Год назад

I am so glad Brian Kehew is working on all this , it is so Awesome to have that one person who brings this all to light! Of course everyone in the room is just key to all the information we all need to know!

@dukeford8893 Год назад

Whatever he's working on will never see the light of day.

@rhubarb99999 3 года назад

I want that 'Realistic' shirt!

@theelusivedillinger 3 года назад

I listen and watch a lot of young guitar virtuosos today on the internet and absolutely none of them know how to write a song. It seems they all want to be technically on point just to get likes on their page. There is absolutely no soul to the end less scales they play. These karaoke guitar players of today rely way too much on technology instead of what's in their heart and soul.

@JS-ju6cv 3 года назад

Miss you Ed. Glad to have known you since I was 11. 1979. You showed me so much. RIP brother.

@Tumbleweed_Tx 3 года назад

Shyboy was a Talas song. It was originally just the bass doing the tapping, when Dave did it with his band, Steve Vai added guitar to it. This is why Ed wanted to hire Billy Sheehan in the 1984 era.

@BrianDropdead 3 года назад

glad someone else mentioned this. Talas for someone reading this who don't know, was Billy Sheehan's (from David Lee Roth's solo band) band from late-70s-early 80s that were basically a local band from Buffalo who had like 3 albums that went no where that only guitar shredder fans know about because Sheehan played insane virtuoso tapping stuff on bass on them.

@edlaw51501 2 года назад

Thats crazy, That "Shy Boy" was a Talas song, and hearing that story of Ed wanting to recruit Sheehan, makes so much sense now, but if Sheehan had been recruited into VH do you thing Billy would have been permitted to play like Billy does with Ed's guitar, its been said Michale Anthony's playing was simplified so Ed could be Ed . I just have to wonder how much would Billy Sheehan been able to go off , I know with Vai and DLR he could but that was to me totally different musically than VH.

@TheSteveSteele 3 года назад

Using JBL speaker with silver caps is widely known. Eddie talked about that and he’s not the only guitarist to use them back in the day. Ted Nugget and Steve Howe used them too among many others. But I didn’t know that Dave studied with Seth Riggs! That’s very cool. My voice teacher was a Seth Riggs student and his method works wonders for baritones! The whistle voice sound is a Seth Riggs warm up technique for some singers, and especially baritones. So that makes perfect sense. Roth also had a nice sustained vibrato that I’m sure Seth helped him with. And Roth recorded using a U-47, a famous mic that’s the baritones “mic of champions”. Frank Sinatra used U-47s. If you ever hear Dave joke, “Is that a U-47 in your pants or are you happy to see me?” you’ll know what he’s talking about! 😁

@schreineinAV 3 года назад

Funny, if I’ve gotten the story right, Jim Morrison of the doors got excited in the studio when recording the first doors record when he was offered a Neumann U-47..... he was a big Sinatra fan and allegedly commented about it being the same mic Sinatra used!

@stupendousmusic4190 3 года назад

@@schreineinAV That's true. Bruce Botnick said in many interviews, that the Neumann/Telefunken U47 is his favorite mic for male singers.

@stupendousmusic4190 3 года назад

JBL D, K, and E series speakers always had silver (metal) dust caps; as did, Altec-Lansings.

@ministerofdarkness 3 года назад

Ted Nugget Rocks 🐔🎸

@TheTheratfarmer 3 года назад

so it is true what Ed said, "when we got back from the first tour, we were in debt for $200,000.00".

@dmcguire70 3 года назад

Actually they owed Warner Bros. $2 million and a new record. They were getting screwed over big time in those early days

@RKDriver 3 года назад

Their second manager Noel Monk talked about this in his book at great length. While touring for their debut album, they were an opening act to Journey and Black Sabbath. The entire band made only around $750 per show. Warner Bros kept tabs of every expense the band had and all of it was billed back to the band. They also had a terrible contract which so many young bands got when they were first starting out. But he said at the end of the first tour, they owed Warner Bros at least 1.5 million.

@glengamble526 3 года назад

One cool thing that Gene Simmons did on the demo was to use the car horns at the end of House Of Pain going into Running With The Devil, and detune them from A to E, to segue the two songs. As we know, Ted Templeman used this idea on the album, though not to connect two songs-just to intro Running With The Devil- cause it sounded cool.

@kspocketngroove3973 3 года назад

Gene Simmons…From KISS

@Encrypted_user_ Год назад

These are great!! Amazing. It would be cool to get Alex VH on board with these discussions and David Lee Roth maybe. To help celebrate the Legacy of VH and Eddie. 🙏🏻

@TheOriginalSplash 3 года назад

LMAO, I seen Van Halen warm up for Sabbath here in detroit... when Sabbath came out people were screaming for Halen-Eddie to come back out I actually felt bad for Sabbath.

@bobjones2041 2 года назад

yeah Detroit was cutting edge back then, hipster centrsl

@SteveStJean-ee4uu Год назад

QUESTION: Does anyone here - Sunset crew or otherwise - know if ISOLATED guitar tracks from VH1 are available anywhere? Yes, I know about the amateur mixes out there where everything else is EQ'd out.... I don't mean those. I mean truly ISOLATED guitar tracks from the Sunset MASTER tapes. Myself and thousands of Eddie / VH1 freaks would pay $$ to hear these and/or maybe even own digital copies somehow! Thanks and keep up the great work. ~Steve

@Greenaresy 3 года назад

Aaaah! What a cliffhanger!! Excellent talk! thank you.

@stephenblake2196 2 года назад

The reason is their was a variety of. MUSIC THAT was all over!! And different that great bands stood out?? Not ONESIDED like in 2022??? MTV also helped with that extremely????

@leedoucette8522 2 года назад

Real bands write so much when there young with so many songs but out of the 30 9or10 will go on the album low behold they will come out later on as time changes. & VH is as best as it GETS. GETCHAPULL DIMEBAG SAID SO PANTERA 2ND😎😎😎for my ears. But my love & PASSION FOR MUSIC is extremely huge & dam THERE'S so many greats but these two bands changed my life😎😎😎

@ericmetalec 3 года назад

I remember reading an interview with Eddie I think it was with Guitar World magazine but he said that he had been two or three takes of" Eruption"... unbeknownst to him and they eventually put on the record now how true that is I don't know

@glennwarlock1555 3 года назад

Funny with these guys writing books and being at 5150- never meeting Ed. I've talked to Ed in person many times for decades- He told me he performed bass on all the albums- and that there's many,many albums worth of unreleased songs.

@musicstream26 Год назад

There are no completed songs in the 5150 vault. Everything, "needs work." And, Wolfie is on tour and not into the VH vault material. So, don't hold your breath. I doubt Alex & Wolf are gonna release jams and unfinished demos even though every VH fan would love it.

@paulfitzgerald4933 3 года назад

Only 7 people mentioned the Realistic shirt. For those who are curious... Radio Shack's Realistic Line for home stereos, TV's, Walkie Talkies, Reel To Reel recorders, weather radios, vacuum tube testers, etc. The CB radios dominated the CB market in the 1970's. The most interesting was Radio Shack / Tandy released under the Realistic line a MOOG synthesizer called the MG-1 Concertmate. That "mate" part was used many times with items like their windows software called "Deskmate" and a cassette player with headphones called "Stereo Mate." My favorite Radio Shack speakers were actually metal cased called Optimus 7 which I used as my first home studio monitors with an Alesis RA-100.

@daveyboy8907 Год назад

I have realistic home speakers as well and they were great back in the 80s early 90s..Man how things have changed.

@paulfitzgerald4933 Год назад

@@daveyboy8907 I had the same pair of speakers for 30 years and "gifted" the 7's to a roommate when I moved out. I'm so tempted to buy a set online as I loved the sound. They were also a little technically savvy. they had the tweeters recessed as the higher frequencies get to the ear faster. Not sure if that made even a smidgen of difference, but it was cool to know! Now I have a huge set of 4 foot Technics speakers from the 80's. Love them, but still want what I had. lol

@stevenrobertson3010 6 месяцев назад

I Still have a few old realistic power amps

@LisaBellaDonnaMusic 2 года назад

Brian Kehew is a total legend, brilliant human, and has so much musical capacity. ❤️

@donavonmacallister3101 2 года назад

He seems really interesting but he wasn't there when they recorded all this stuff I can't figure out why they didn't have Ted templeman or video clip of Don Landee

@patrickalloyssius9138 3 года назад

Do you need my tapes,I'm the source for 90 % of the demos and live shows from 1975 to 78 that came out on bootlegs way back in 1997

@krisscanlon4051 2 года назад

So they hit the wall with writing around '81 or so I'm guessing? That continued for some time..some spurts in 85 and 90s then back again sort of for last album with some old tracks. No different then the Stones...old old tracks remixed remade as needed.

@kingfisher7960 2 года назад

I like how the professional says the Gibson Explorer was supposed to look like an Ibanez Destroyer.....

@foreveralive6949 3 года назад

I've always felt that it was such a shame that Eddie never felt motivated to document the band's history on video. It's often been speculated that the band was probably sitting on top of unreleased audio and video from the height of the band's popularity and success, but I really wonder if that's the case after all. There are no doubt some amazing audio archives still in existence that will be released at a point. What I think the fans would really shell out cash for would be high quality video from either studio sessions or live concerts from the band's legendary heights back in the early 80's, maybe 1980-82.

@RigidRecords69 3 года назад

Oakland 1982

@LiquidSwords5150 3 года назад

What u see is what u get with that, mike Anthony has said in interviews before they only taped those songs and that was it ..... trust me I’ve extensively looked into it :.... great recording just wish there was more like that

@sharkhaywood 3 года назад

I have always heard that Eddie was never happy with the quality of the live audio recordings, likely Dave's habit of singing only a few of the words, to be high enough quality to release.

@RockDawg77 3 года назад

Totally agree. It's always been a brain bender how the band the cracked things open for so many never put out any live shows from the classic days. We sent the VH Store an email awhile back asking if there was any chance we'd see the US Festival show released on cd/dvd/bluray and they said those decisions were up to the band. Maybe there's still hope. Would be interesting though to find out how many unofficial copies of VH shows have been purchased. They've got to be in the top 5.

@robinmorris5416 3 года назад

@@RigidRecords69 thank you..

@tiffanim547 3 года назад

HOPING to hear some unreleased bluesy stuff from Eddie. The few songs I've heard of him ripping the blues is fucking electric!! More Eddie blues!

@ChromaticHarp 2 года назад

So this is love?

@jonnuanez7183 2 года назад

Valerie put the kibosh on Patty Smyth being the singer when Dave left. Can't imagine why...😉

@professorhamamoto 3 года назад

Well done, gentleman. Please keep this series going. Cultural historians present and future will thank the Sunset Sound owners and management for its foresight in documenting this important information. I am looking forward to the new edition of "Recording the Beatles" by Brian Kehew. There is so much excellent research now being published on popular music.

@kenkammerer6720 Год назад

When Journey, Montrose and Van Halen came to town we only went to see Van Halen and Montrose. Van Halen just killed it ! Montrose came out and played an acoustic set because Sammy was having voice issues. Montrose was jamming along and lost where he was at in the song, stopped and goes "Ah, F*ck", and then continued to jam. That was so cool. We left before Journey came out. Van Halen stole the show.

@rodneymageria8325 3 года назад

Superfan....but he says "Mean Streets".........LOL

@robertprest638 3 года назад

I watched Eddie at I believe a Namm show with Peavey. And someone ( I think it was all dealers + if a fan knew a connection) asked about releasing a striped version,they had one done up hanging up Eddie didn’t play it.Eddie said I can’t imagine someone would want to be onstage playing a guitar so associated with me. O he didn’t get that even if some players wouldn’t be onstage playing it fans that could afford it would have loved having one.Same thing with his autograph Eddie didn’t realize that being a big deal on the guitar.

@rivetzndakka1519 3 года назад

I had that red vinyl. A DJ friend gave it to me in 1981. I Never looked back !

@hydraulics 3 года назад

6:58 dlr didn't copy a doubled guitar on bass... Talas recorded Shyboy in 1982

@princealexander6155 Год назад

There are EVH and Chris Cornell collaboration tracks. Source Pete Thorn.

@jeffleppard2628 3 года назад

Greatly informative! I have the poor copies of the Gene and WB demos. Would absolutely love high quality editions. To have individuals with information to the early years share it with those who are processing this loss is very much appreciated. I’ve subscribed and look forward to more to come.

@BruceStephan Год назад

Ive read elsewhere the demo Gene Simmons funded was given to the band on the condition they don't sell it or release it for sale . The band put the demo on their Newsdesk site . It's also on RU-vid . The demo sounds just that like a demo .

@mikeadams6741 Год назад

hey Brian ,don't forget to mention they were highly influence by Daddy's band ie the acceptance to old ti!e brandish songs aka Big Bad Bill

@indydude3367 2 года назад

Not everything Eddie recorded at 5150 was meant to be released. Probably none of it.

@junkboxhero4825 3 года назад

AMAZING interview. Great job with the cliffhanger ending...I sure hope I remember to watch part 2. Thank you for keeping it free!!

@sunsetsoundrecorders 3 года назад

❤️🤘

@pedroleal7118 2 года назад

Nice interview, it reminds that I miss my 'realistic' PZM microphones!

@TheWarriorSongProject 3 года назад

did they use a night filter on the camera?

@paxavgvsti 3 года назад

Fantastic! Thanks for this! Looking forward to Part II!

@cruzsanchez3647 2 года назад

He is right when he says that they are good at song writing. EVH not only was one of the greatest guitarist, but also was one of the greatest songwriter. From listening to his music it seems that he didn't like to over dub his guitar playing, I think.

@josephalfonsi8022 2 года назад

When is a Van halen movie coming out ?? Im 100 percent sure its being talked about

@brianruvalcava7492 3 года назад

From the book” Van Halen Rising “ don’t know the artist off hand, but Hot For Teacher intro sounds similar to a cover!

@tuggspeedman5213 3 года назад

Billy Cobham - Quadrant 4

@joepipe1010 3 года назад

Zz top

@Betrayerslayer 3 года назад

I taught Eddie that.

@anthonytrent2747 2 года назад

Just searched and I'll be Damned I'd swear I was looking at David Lee Roth in some of those videos

@kitoyobeni1 3 года назад

There are at least demos for a second album with Cherone, would be interesting to hear. Supposedly those songs were an improvement as they got more familiar with each other.

@drumgk 3 года назад

Oh lord I hope there’s no more with Cherone! He was not a good fit for VH at all!

@kitoyobeni1 3 года назад

@@drumgk There definitely is more, as they were working on a second album together. How complete those songs are, or if they get released remains to be seen of course. Maybe as a deluxe edition for the album's 25th anniversary?

@DanDDirges 3 года назад

Nothing even comes close to their first album in my opinion, great songs, great sound.

@jimmyz2098 3 года назад

I love Van Halen 1 too. Who doesn't? Respect your opinion 100%. We're all Van Halen Brothers. But for me.... it just got better, and better.... and better, throughout the years. Even right up through the first 2 Sammy records. I just couldn't ever seem to get enough Van Halen. Man... I want some more!

@rpoz11 3 года назад

Fantastic and incredible interview! Thank you so much for this!

@willieboy8798 3 года назад

13:41 releasable recordings throwing stuff out.... a storage unit costs that much??? can you imagine what we would pay for as a country to have a recording of George Washington stating "just call me President"! MY question is did he sound scared shitless or total confidence...what are you worried about? throw out recordings?????? even a crappy sounding band has value to a population 200 years from now! it is called oral history! I talked to Brian Lamb Cspan when he was at Harvard lecturing, a library hired a Psychitrist group go through old letters and the information lead to a new literary study at University level and is now taught to advances HS. throw out recording?????fmtt

@AchillesWrath1 3 года назад

That was just the Warner Bros studios. Imagine what's in Ed's 5150 studio? He recorded all the time he's talked about it many times over the years. That's what he did he sat down and records himself noodling around playing guitar for hours and hours. There gotta be mountains of recorded material laying around his studio. My hope is they find that material and make a solo album out of it.

@prowlermadmax2 3 года назад

I was 13yrs old back in 78 when I first heard Van Halen Running with the Devil on my cousins 8-track tape player. I was blown away with their music and i've been a fan ever since. I can't wait to hear unreleased material. RIP Eddie

@ziggylayneable 3 года назад

In the very early eighties (81-82). I heard Van Halen 1 for the first time as a kid. Running with the devil blew my mind too.The way everything slowed down to that beginning with the bass part. And then eruption and then The kinks. I just couldn't wrap my head around it. That entire album is tattooed in my brain(if I remember correctly I heard the song running with the devil for the first time on a Nancy Reagan anti-drug commercial...lol).

@brianruvalcava7492 3 года назад

The Ibanez Destroyer Chris Holmes from Wasp , claim the guitar Eddie used on the recording was his ! Eddie ruined his and didn’t like the sound..the one on album covers, he didn’t use ..

@megazoned3973 3 года назад

Ed used his own destroyer on VH1. The Chris Holmes guitar was used on Women and Children First.

@composerdave68 3 года назад

@@megazoned3973 This. There are pics of Holmes's destroyer in the studio for WACF. Ed's was used on the first record for pretty much anything that didn't need a whammy bar. Then he cut it up, and while he still used it live, now dubbed the Shark guitar, he didn't like the sound of it in the studio anymore. So he used Chris's on WACF. In the pics you can see that it isn't Ed's because the Shark had two pots, on volume and one tone. Chris's had been modified to be just one volume. What Chris has said about it: "Eddie used to borrow some of my equipment [even]. I had crashed a motorcycle [one time] and I was laid up in the hospital, and he came in and asked me if he could borrow my guitar for his new album ['Women And Children First']. I said, 'Yeah, just go by and tell my mom that I said that you could borrow it,' and he went over and picked it up."

@ricka5959 3 года назад

Chris Holmes was in the hospital at the time after a motorcycle accident. Ed had to get the guitar from Holmes's mother and was told to bring his Destroyer so Chris would have a guitar to play.

@brianruvalcava7492 3 года назад

@@composerdave68 you might have watched the same interview! Thanks for info!