Vaush EXPLODES on Socialism, Trump, Biden, Debating Fascists 

Good to see a quality discussion after the flood of misunderstanding and antagonism which has prevailed in sectors of the US. I like to condense the meaning of socialism to 'being fair to everyone'.

@@RobertSeviour1 socialism tends to be misunderstood especially in our very conservative cold-war mindset in America. Modern-day socialists today define it as "democratic ownership of the means of production." If you want more information about libertarian socialism I recommend the book *Markets not Capitalism* by Gary Chartier.

dude YES. Every person I've ever met that screeches about some evil transition to socialism has absolutely no idea what the concept actually is. It's nice to hear two adults have a productive conversation despite having differences in opinion. Such a drastic departure from the majority of discourse I've seen over the last 4 years.

Socialism is wen teh gubbermend does sduf, and da moar sduf it dose, da moar socialism, and wen id dose a real lotta stuff, is communism.

@@nagitokomaeda3237 Note to self: must get new batteries for spellchecker.

Tim Pool is a moron that sounds smart to people even more moronic than himself.

@@musicwelikemang much like Ben Shapiro. They only sound smart to idiots cause they find facts that back up their opinion instead of basing their opinion on all the facts

Like the G.O.A.T. Dave Chappelle said of Candace Owens; "She is so articulate, that she could tell you how f*ck!n' stupid she is.... Specifically!" Sorry Candace, I'm with Dave on this 1.

The funny thing is, Vaush *knew* Tim was going to bring up critical race theory without knowing anything about it, so Vaush tweeted at Tim a few days before the discussion begging him to learn at least the definition and...*narrator voice* he did not

He repeated "sEMANTICS" and started talking about a different point.

Kinda gross that vaush lies about being socialist when he is like SUPER DUPER neoliberal

Emblemed fate what about what Vaush said makes him a neoliberal and not socialist?

@@lexzetusko I assume he’s talking about the fact he is a market socialist A lot of idiots assign markets to capitalism then say that market socialists are just neo liberals Flawed way of thinking but that’s how the world works I guess

@@keyan1219 i feel thats giving too much credit

@@lexzetusko yeah these guys probably think Stalin was a super hero As opposed to the idiots on the right who think he was a super villain

The keloids are so much more pronounced.

Phenomenon known as the Aldens Unease Principle

@@sambutton8494 alden’s glare

But look how pretty his eyes are!

👁 👁

What liberals don’t understand is there are fundamental policy differences between we socialists and liberals. Liberals see our social polices of inclusion and egalitarianism and think “we are the same”. They completely look over the economic differences. Socialists are anti-capitalists, liberals are pro capitalism, even if they think it needs to be modified. The best way it can be summed up is a liberal will say “huh capitalism is failing the poor. we need to fix it” a socialist will say “capitalism is working exactly as intended at the expense of the poor and working class”

@@AceofCrazy89 I disagree. I think that liberals are very aware of that, and Pakman's arguments make the awareness of the differences very clear. But the current platforms amplify the arguments between left and right and leave no room for the subtleties between say moderate right and hard right or liberals (in the American sense, not the UK sense) and left wing to be discussed.

@@justblairthompson 1. You’re assuming all liberals are Pakman 2. If the standard is the global body of politic the hard right is the republicans and the moderate right is the democrats and there is plenty of discussion of the differences between the two. In fact that’s almost the only political discourse in the US

Notice how I didn’t make a distinction here? I’m talking about “the left” as a totality not doing what they need to do to signal boost one another. Vaush has about 250k subs and occupies a very important niche to help more people become leftists by giving them good leftist debate lord content that helps simplify decades of political history. Pakman has over 1m and he covers the news in a very standard way giving him much more outreach to a more general audience. No shade at Pakman but, his content isn’t going to do much to convert people who are right leaning/altright and getting platformed by someone 4x larger goes a long way in growth. I like Vaush and I agree with him politically much more than I do David but, I understand that this is America and our political situation is will not allow for any significant change in the Overton window anytime soon. Pakman is the front man here for us, his politics and demeanour allow him the ability to go on established news networks and garner followings there while simultaneously promoting other leftists who appeal to younger audiences such as The Serfs. At the end of the day we have to play to win and right now we are afraid to signal boost one another with our largest content creators and it is maddening. Imagine how much smaller Hasan would be right now if he was not signal boosted by TYT or even more recently like AOC.

@@AceofCrazy89 1. No I am not. 2. You make a good point, however there seems from an outsiders point of view there does not seem to be much discourse in American politics. It seems more like tribalism. Those on the republican side seem to think Democrats are socialists or liberals, those on the democrat side seem to be better educated as to what republicans are.

Always glad to see you here and on vaushe's stream trav. You helped me out on tons of school projects!

What ?

Fan of all three of you

woah, brad! So cool to see you here. I practically spent the last 3 months between your channel and this one, haha!

@Juanito G ???

@transylvanian they also will play a part in moving us away from other fascists and racists. Infighting gets us nowhere.

I'm in Sweden and it is great. Look at the Democracy Index.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

@transylvanian let us not the fight like the hogs are right now. Infighting gets us nowhere and to get any progress we must accept any allies we can get. The path to revolution is slow yet sure.

@transylvanian Have any suggestions on how to move past this conundrum?

@transylvanian Greats observations btw.

Look, you can't beat Rave Dubin and his galaxy brain with his "ideas"

The irony

If conservatives heroic version of themselves is the man standing atop history yelling STOP! then Dave Rubin is the guy standing atop Stonewall surrounded by angry drag queens yelling "There's only two genders!"" and expecting applause

Dave Rubin has no ideas. He chases money and nothing else. I ignore him because he's irrelevant like many others that have nothing to say. Tomi Lahren Tim Pool Donald Trump

He can't even say the specific "ideas" that he fckn talks bout XD

@Sugar Sore There aren’t as many of all of us as there are of those who oppose us, so hop on board. We’re better together

@Gabe. Abolishing it though doesn't have to be a forced too down action, it can still be a natural continuation of the way politics flow. Capitalism is the issue but if we can get the ball rolling , so to speak, the ultimate destination is the same imo.

@Sugar Sore It’s all good! 🤗

Worker coops are perfectly allowed and so are communes. My train goes to "shoot Rosa Luxemburg" - station.

@@MrCmon113???

Destiny PEPE

true

I will never tire of this meme 😂😂😂

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I9swA-xv6kY.html AMERICANS MUST STAND UP TO FRAUD !!!!

I’ve been waiting for this all week

How you feel about that now? Mistake? Greatest decision of your life?

@@joeyginise6051 About what I expected, honestly. I never had high hopes he'd do a lot, but Trump proved he had to go. And if we're being honest, Biden's done a little bit more than I was expecting him to do, so...slight positive?

@@SamWeltzin I wouldn't call rising gas prices, ignoring China's crimes, and antagonizing the Arabs a positive. I would argue that the Media convinced you that Trump had to go. There were very few people willing to analyze trump beyond some faulty sense of what is racist or not. He wasn't a racist or a fascist, the media just called them that constantly to destroy his reputation. What disgusts me is that it fucking worked. Then you got that sham of an impeachment, tell me, is there any logic in impeaching someone who is not even a siting president anymore? Pathetic Political games, all of congress should be kicked out for even considering such a thing. Worthless bastards the lot of them.

@@joeyginise6051 Look buddy, I spent four years gaslighting myself that Trump wasn't everything I was afraid he would be. I saw what the media did with the Iraq War and anybody who even remotely tried to put in policies that would help people. They're awful liars who have no incentive but to make money through sensationalism and propping up the power structures in the United States. I recognize all of this and still have to come to the conclusion that Donald J. Trump was a threat to the very existence of the United States. Just because the media is shit does not mean that Trump is not. He is. He politicized a fucking virus and the most basic bitch solutions to limiting the effects of that virus because he was a fucking moron and got rid of the institutions in place that were there to handle such a thing. He had an allergic reaction to any hard truths about himself, and would never admit fault to anything. He conjured up an immense distrust in the foundation of our democracy because he couldn't handle losing to a useless piece of shit like Biden, and then when people reacted in what is actually a very logical way to hearing that their country had been stolen, he threw them under the bus while still maintaining that the basis of the insurrection was true. He destroyed all discourse in this country and divided us for generations. He made being an asshole something people were proud of. That's not to mention that he continued the warmongering we both have an issue with, made global warming worse, reduced quality of air and water for millions of people, separated families by keeping kids in cages (I am aware Obama built those cages and Biden is currently using them though for different reasons). I don't care if he's a racist or not (though he has absolute enabled racists to be more vocal and active; look up hate crimes against Asian-Americans). I don't care if you can technically classify him as a fascist or not (he just hit a lot of those checkboxes and again enabled real fascists). I care about the effect he's had on people and our country, and it's not been good. I'm aware that he benefitted from the upward trend in GDP and a slightly better unemployment rate than Obama. I'm aware the stock market went up under him (as it trends upward pretty much all the time). He was not terrible in every way. But I'll be goddamned if he wasn't still terrible. Biden isn't fomenting civil war. I'm done gaslighting myself that Trump was just another Republican president. EDIT: Christ, how could I forget putting us into a second Great Depression by refusing to help people and small businesses out with anything more than tax cuts for the rich and a one-time pittance during a time of crisis?

@@SamWeltzin I very rarely react to people's comments but then I have rarely read any as well thought out and heartfelt as yours was. I don't necessarily agree that it is less important that Trump may be a fascist than his enabling American fascists to come out of the shadows and even enter mainstream politics, but you very clearly explained your point of view. If only all political discourse in our country could be this reasonable.

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Vaush may hate pizza but he's a good dude

What made you think that?

Hey Matt.

dave rubin style

My brain is still in recovery mode.

No idea how authoritarian's are considered crazy but we take communists like this seriously.

yes, right up until the point you let progressiveness get out of control. Progress is good. But it should be done with realism. Out of control progress results in dictatorship. soviet russia. and China are examples of that.

Karl Marx will have been having a revolution in his grave at that one.

"socialism when poor" - Carl marks, conquest of toast

Don't forget it's when the gubament gives you free stuff too.

My political science teacher was right.

@@TsdsxSansTSSunStone my science teacher taught us the domino theory ( along time ago) and explained it was important to blow some of the dominoes up in order to protect the other dominoes.

...minus infinity ? Oh wait, your iQ is now NaN, congratulations.

@@cezarcatalin1406 the projection is strong with you. Tankie go boohoo.

I wonder how many people in Pakman's audience have googled "what is Alden's Number?" 🤓 I'm so glad to see this collab, Pakman is probably my oldest sub besides Contrapoints and Philosophy Tube, and Vaush has become my favorite leftist streamer since I found his channel a few months ago. I listen to him almost daily!

@@cezarcatalin1406 Double.isNaN(RHoelliQ )

Lmao!

Yea, that'll never happen. Vaush does WAY better in his current form.

@@SpurnOfHumanity Vaush would definitely come back. Dpak has 1.2mil subs

@@SpurnOfHumanity Being a regular doesn't mean anything but having him on more lol

Yeah vaush I'm sure would love to do this often.

@@williamsanders2348 Agreed. I think the two of them seem intellectually on par and the conversation didn't seem like a total waste of time like the ones Pakman has with Destiny

i dont think david caught that one

I thought "hurting" lol but herding is even better

Considering how long it takes Vaush to get them to take any position, I get what he means

yes I shed a singular Tear when he Bashed David's skull in with that Pop Tart line.... David would Surely need weeks to recovery from this battle of Ideas

@@TrukenX clearly Rave Dubin wins that battle easily

same. makes me feel sad when the media and gas lighters don't mention the mortality rate when speaking about covid. only the infection. more like moving the goal posts with their talking points.

Are you in recovery mode? :D

@@marckemper4902 - Still trying to work through it comrade, and Ty for asking. Gets a bit much some days hearing people make rational, sane and Unifying statements that lead with a sense of compassion. Idk, it's kinda like a shock to the system, almost makes ya feel like we're going crazy or something. And I'm nucking futz.

I wonder if Rubin bites his tongue whenever someone goes on recovery mode.

Same, this video filled with facts and logic has warmed my withered heart

Yeah me either. I think I’ll have to start with his debate with Jesse lee Peterson. Amazin!

I'm a center-left liberal but this vooosh guy makes some good points

He schooled Tim Pool not to long ago.

@ people already have. It just hasn't penetrated into the USA very much because it's so different than what we're used to.

@Steve22 Out of context, disingenuous lmao

Actual justice warrior DESTROYED vaush, lmao

@@aliamjon2550 you REALLY think that? Haha well good for you

@@aliamjon2550 wait are you arguing that AJW is a fascist?

@@MrISAACFACE why would you ask me that ?

@@aliamjon2550 Because you talked about AJW on a comment about fascists. That won't really help you to make people believing in your point. This, and the fact you're asking why.

There is not a lot in common between these two my dude. One of them believes in Capitalism with few social programs like healthcare and the other is a crazy far lefty who wants full on socialism achieved by a violent social revolution. Vaush is crazier the more you get to know him. I really want to see his idea, how white college kids who rich parents like him fare against crazy republicans with more guns than anyone has seen. Good luck on the revolution my dude.

Lol, same dude. Vaush, Dpak, and Seder are the only pundits worth watching tbh.

Shinnok 5 I disagree. Vaush and Pakman are alike in their dedication to pragmatism. That resonates with me. Vaush does indeed have radical positions but push come to shove I would be tough to convince he would condone extreme violence to potentially achieve his ideal society.

@@probablypondering1657 Vaush is much more pragmatic than a lot of lefties, which is one of the things I appreciate about him.

Ditto

Dingus is dinguses in plural, you went for a possessive plural.

Tim Pool's fans just dismissed all of Vaush's points while shouting 'Vaush is a moron'

Vaush: based Tim: basic Co-host: half based Other chick: cringe

@@DaviniaHill Can we pretend it is Latin and go with dingi?

@@foxxie1702 of course they did

Literally Vowsh

@@IconicPhotonic Responding to a comment 11 months late just to shishpost? Orwellian

​@@WiloPolis03 Vowsh

Dpak fans looking at this comment confused asf lmfao

I never liked brooks. Smart guy but a rigid ideologue.

Yeah he absolutely ethered her.

Here! Here!

Michael brooks had common sense, this guy wants a violent social revolution that he will lose. You really dont know much about vaush.

@@meankronen8217 no, it's you that don't. Vaush absolutely doesn't want that and goes pretty hard in the paint against people who do, you haven't followed Vaush at all if you think that's what he wants.

lmaooo

Also known as Kenny 2, 2?

Destiny must be malding now after this interview

Lmfaoo

@@PK-uk1vd Why exactly? I don’t think Destiny would disagree to mich that was said in this discussion.

Yep, coalition building is the strongest tool for asserting political power over issues that most affect peoples lives

@@davidstebbins8002 Honestly, and I agree with Vaush on this point, it's something the Left needs to learn to get alot better at.

AMAZIN

@Milo Kaye vaush bad x24

@@cyanp0wder Find some people as stupid as you who can’t understand basic argumentation.

@@cyanp0wder you mean how commodities accepted by society require the same exploitation of children as CP and how thats a bad thing?

@@cyanp0wder most who have understand it's a reductio ad absurdum argument against all child exploitation (including cp)

@@cyanp0wder oh I was wondering where the chuds were, Hello sad to see you still haven't graduated from NPC brain for those coming later Vaush used to use a rhetorical strategy pointing out that CP is illegal and bad because it hurt people to create. He then linked this to other forms of consumption under capitalism that require people being hurt, child labor, slave wages, suicide nets in companies stuff like that. He would start with a shock statement about how under the current laws that allow for all of that, or allow for the exploitation of it in foreign lands that it is hypocritical to make uniquely CP illegal. He did it badly and has several clips of him saying things like " I can't think of a legal reason that CP should outlawed" and so on. The entire point of the argument is that Vaush thinks all that shit is bad and should be illegal/ more severely penalized

Generally agree he is good on social issues. However, he sometimes promotes baseless and dangerous conspiracy theories. For example, he said that Israel is eagerly waiting to genocide all Palestinians, and if it was up to him there wouldn't be Jews in Palestine. Plus, he uses the word "fascist" way too often and way too liberally and it just loses any meaning.

Don't forget his based anime takes. And also the babeys :)

@@rosebudtv4660 totally unrelated question, do you believe that Milošević was justly or unjustly convicted of two counts of genocide?

I completely agree. I was new to his content weeks before the election, but I'd be happy to recommend him to anybody if i could. A few of his takes on certain issues can be wrongheaded and we should be quick to point them out. But they seem so small in comparison to all his other good takes that they might as well be nitpicks. Overall, he's very knowledgeable, light on his feet while streaming, and he's a great poster boy for the Left. We do need more like him but his streaming talents are unmatched, unfortunately.

@RoseBud TV His views on Israel are perfectly coherent. That’s exactly what Israel is doing. How do you disagree?

We're like catherding.

Agreed, but I would add Sedar into the mix too (Rest in Power Brooks)

And Beau of the Fifth Column

...It would figure that authoritarian conformist right-wing people would follow leaders better...🤔...It's kinda who they are. You do see a lot of infighting in the far-right extremist/white nationalist/militia groups. That's because people with problems show up in those groups. ...problems like mental illness, substance abuse, personality disorders.

I think 'infighting' on the left is pretty fundamental, I don't think we can ever fully escape it. An ideology based upon progress rather than stagnation is by definition going to have many different 'flavours' and degrees of progress. Conservative and neoliberal ideology has a kind of efficacy that leftism can't take of advantage of. Its a pretty grim reality but I guess we just gotta work twice as hard to achieve our goals.

Me too!

As a principled conservative and devoted Tim Pool fan, he really brought me to the left

Question: what does that mean? “Principled conservative”

I'm not a commie but nobody else on the left does the type of content he does as well as he does it

Vaush strawmans, is hyperbolic, fearmongers, and frequently has false distinctions between “the right” and “the left.” I also dislike his socialist branding, as centrally planned economies are just bad economically. Other then that, Vaush is pretty based

Socialism and Authoritarian systems in general have a nasty habit of turning tyrannical very quickly. Too much power in one persons hand with little to no accountability. Soviet History is filled with that kind of stuff. Socialist states are usually similar but in my opinion can more often be saved than the Commie states. Might have to do with the differences between them or something. Like Venezuela, I believe they can be saved. But if they were commie, then I don't think anything beyond total collapse or a revolution could save them then. Let it die and move on, or force it to change. Comes down to how desperate the people are.

@Joey.....” Like Venezuela, I believe they can be saved.” What do you mean by “saved?” The Venezuelan people disagree with you. Maduro pissed off America because he wanted to nationalize Venezuela’s oil reserves.......real socialists are supporting this effort. Privatization and extremely harsh sanctions, which WE put onto the Venezuelan people, is why they are in such dire straits economically. I have no idea why this fact always gets overlooked by supposed “leftists” online...🤷‍♂️

@@anderseckstrand7033 Thank you for making the response that I didn’t want to lol. I don’t try anymore.

Well under capitalism, you are free to establish a cooperative.

@@joeyginise6051 That's an unbelievably ignorant comment.

That is what happens when your base is built on fearmongering reactionaries

Yeah vaush is a real high level thinker lmao

On foreign policies not so much 😂😂😂 and China

​@edgarayala417 Vaush agrees with you that those suck though, but alot of leftists are willing to defend fascism from china.

They are all liberals... who cares

Why would he? Destiny and dp have not talked for months

@@rogerandersen7046 because destiny is openly asspained about other people having more succes on twitch or just in general than him, particularly with hassan and vaush he will always take jabs and them and shit on them, during "realtalks" he openly admits he is asspained about other people

@@cezarcatalin1406 Just read more theory, you'll figure out why you're wrong 👍.

@@dsadawrware when did this happen? It seems like Destiny is complacent with the level of popularity he has. I've watched all of them since the start...

Right. And also, just because people are poor doesn't mean they want to establish socialism, which is why socialism will most likely fail.

@@vince1650 If you are poor then you would have to be an idiot not to want guaranteed access to healthcare and education,etc.

If someone’s poor they’ll almost certainly die poor. With socialism they’d, at the very fucking least, have access to basic human rights.

Or, you know, you can "fund both sides of a civil war."

@@vince1650 most poor people WANT socialist policies (like healthcare and education) your argument sounds like a sargon quote

vaush? guy is a walking meme makers and has great points ...... also welcome comrade

Props. Other way around for me. Revolution isn't off the table now, but used to be exclusively incremenetalist.

I was in a similar position. Looking back, espescially after Joes first days in Office, I'm very happy I voted for Biden/Harris.

There is NO contrast between Biden and Trump on climate change. lol Seriously, WTF are you smoking dude? Have you seen how many new fracking permits the Biden administration has approved!? 🤔 Why so many “leftists” don’t recognize this is beyond confusing. Biden is also a closet racist... BOTH presidents suck from a working class perspective. 😉

I can't read that without it being sung in my head.

Our propaganda is getting good.

Lol. At some point the right'll stop using it as some kind of insult.

Yep

Isn’t socialism funding the current education system?

@@unconventionalguitarist9129 there isn't enough socialism in general. Funding isn't the only issue though. Organizations need to be carefully planned.

@@krunkle5136 good point. Schools should compete with each other like universities do. Capitalism at its best.

@@unconventionalguitarist9129 maybe competing for government funding. Private school is the worst abomination. Education needs to be free for all. There needs to be incentives outside of a market for education. Capitalism would be showing it's best if Americans stopped buying from the oligopoly and supported small businesses that actually listen to customers. More competition. Now that's something to subsidize the creation for.

Love it

Lol.

Why is this so accurate? :D

God, I hate when uncle Kyle comes to visit... ugh...

@@Onedarknight Yeah... always talking about who's houngry.

Me too, im so proud that people are watching him more!

Yes. I remember when he was 30K. Very impressed with his evolution.

I'm here since 70k. Hunter indirectly introduced me to Vaush.

Flexes... I've been subbed to Vaush since he had about 2-3k subs, and I didn't come from destiny's community

I think he was at 12k or 24k when I started watching him back in May 2019. So glad to see him getting the attention he deserves, and helping bring popular support to our cause!

Are these your two daddies?

Never watched the guy, first thing I saw of him was the CP comments. Sorry, can't get behind that. I don't care who it is.

@@sleepassist5745 he was just demonstrating people’s hypocrisy, not advocating for the legalization of cp. Could have done a better job though.

@@sleepassist5745 the left loves to reward supporters of child abuse, that's why David gave him a spot

@@k.j.305 and this right here is what i was afraid of.

@@sleepassist5745 what? an unsubstantiated claim from a random RU-vid commentator? Vaush made some bad rhetorical choices when he was arguing against the idea of "moral consumption" under capitalism. That is it, if you couldn't tell Vaush is against the ethical abuses that allow for capitatim to function hence him being a socialist so him equating CP to said consumption means he's against that too its pretty simple. Then right wingers took his "shock statements" out of context and spread it around, like they do for everything they can't argue against.

I can definitely talk with you about anarchosocialism (what vaush and myself generally subscribe to) and communism, as well as the slight differences within if you'd like. I've been watching Vaush for over 2 years now, and have a pretty good handle on what he pushes. I myself am probably as close as you can get to his exact platform.

@@purplepumpkin3772 I can't say I follow vaush so I am perhaps doing him a disservice, but didn't he, in the opening moments of the debate refer to Mao and Lenin in approving terms? I am all for being unorthodox but that set my tankie-spider senses tingling.

@@lutonsolidarity I can understand that lol. Vaush is definitely not a tankie :) In fact he rails against them constantly. He just doesnt hide the fact that he's learned from all sorts of thinkers within the left, to learn what to do, and what not to do.

Communism is just socialism in hyperdrive. To be fair, that's how it's defined. Socialism is common/social ownership of the means of production, communism is ALSO the common and social ownership of the means of production. Communism is usually just a "higher stage of socialism" where the State, class distinction and money no longer exist. But not every communist has the same philosophy, the Communist Party USA is a Marxist-Leninist political party. I'm a communist, but I am not a Leninist. I'd describe myself as a Libertarian Marxist, or Left Communist. Lenin and Trotsky themselves originally were Libertarian Marxists also, but they had a change of heart when they took political power in the USSR. Anyway, it's important to understand that not all of us communists are communists in the same way.

The NY Post, Fox News, and Alex Jones are good at spreading B.S.

Too many Americans think socialism is just ‘government does stuff’

This comment section is full with people who think Vaush wants to turn the US into the USSR despite literally arguing the opposite. It's insane.

Me two.

Once upon a time, there were Nazis and Facists and ethno-nationalists and... ...then ANTIFA used climate change to bring Stalin back to life to kill Zombie Hitler and they all lived happily ever after. The end!

@@aaendi6661 I was thinking more H.P.Lovecraft or Edgar Allen Poe but I like what you did there. 👍

He trained his voice to be like that. Pretty cool!

i found a vaush asmr if you are interested ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hRxOc6oZKgc.html&ab_channel=GoldenFreddy

Thats just a vidya stream

@@michaelt7553 What are the autism and ASD rates in the southern region?

@@michaelt7553 As someone with Autism, and who knows other people with autism. Like many members of marginalized groups, Autistic people tend to be on the left.

Calls for violence and ablism in one thread. And we're the good guys....!?

Oh I like that!

Do you guys understand what autism is? Never expected the tolerant left to be mocking a disability like so....

his debates are amazin

I heard of Vaush after/from Destiny's videos. &Since Destiny painted him in negative light, I dismissed V. With D's drama vid past week + this vid I realize I 'backed' the wrong guy. Same here, Voush is probably going to get my sub (few vid clicks at least).

Great, we lost another one to Socialism...er..I mean political failure.

@Gary Webb But socialism IS failure.

@Gary Webb When was has it actually worked. Every socialist/communist nation has collapsed. The Only reason China hasn't failed, is because they are using capitalism as a crutch.

@Gary Webb Is it. Is it really. I think the mass murder speaks for itself.

YES

The internet people agree.

I was abit weary of beau at first but the more I watched the more I could see what an intelligent interesting man he is.

Good call. That said, I feel like there wouldn’t be much debate going on, as they seem to be on the same page.

@@Nick-yv1wy It's just a thought. Have a good day.

welcome comrade

Sadly

same

Manipulation

Yes he likes to lead with drama

😄

The clickbait is real. Vaush does it a bit too. :/

Pakman is the master of clickbait titles

All those people who jumped out the window thought they could fly, but it didn't work for them. But hey, you should try it anyway, it might work this time.

@@bennymountain1 it doesn't mean we can't find reason why things won't work -- it just means that a previous failure on its own is not a valid argument. The reason why humans can't fly without help from technology etc. is because of physics. The reason is NOT because we have tried and failed so it can't happen in the future. That's the reality of this particular example, but it is not an actual argument why it can't happen.

@@bennymountain1 ; Base jumping is a fairly popular sport, that though it is dangerous compared to many other sports, has become safer, thanks to the use of better equipment. Mankind attempted to fly for thousands of years, prior to finally inventing the aircraft that made human flight a reality.

@@bennymountain1 ; Never jump from a high location while using psychoactive substances and when not using the proper gear. Otherwise base jumping is a fairly safe and rewarding activity. In regards to socialism, never attempt to bring socialism about by killing millions of people who believe another form of socialism should be practiced, and just as importantly, make sure it is actually socialism you are attempting to bring about.

@@bennymountain1 except in socialisms case it has never been done once so we really dont know if it works but we do see it work in SMALL POLICIES in many western nations ....... essentially we see a man jump from a window 2 feet off the ground and he maintained flight for a few seconds and we have idiots shouting "IT DIDNT WORK SO IT CAN NEVER BE TRIED AGAIN EVER YOU FILTHY PEASANTS"

Destiny is the reactionary friend we made along the way

Love David Doel. He brought me into this world

@@HazmatEsports He never said that. He's anti all child exploitation just framed it poorly once.

@@HazmatEsports why u mad bro?

@@Nobddy because he can't understand nuance and context.

@@HazmatEsports lol

And I guess HazmatEsports couldn't handle a simple debate, 'cause all his comments are GONE!

Vaush is a liberal too... he’s a Destiny boy

@@cezarcatalin1406 Vaush is an anarcho-syndicalist.

I wouldn't call Pakman a liberal. At least not in the American sense. Because he (and Vaush too) certainly has very liberal views on certain issues. Many liberal viewpoints are independent, social, and with few sensible restrictions. In return, many socialist positions are very liberal. Depending on the topic and the circumstances. There is no general recipe. This binary approach, so widespread in America, is often too simplistic.

@@radiatormike anarcho-bidenist actually, get it together buddy

@@benschmitt7035 Not anymore.

Nomi is an establishment NATO paid hack. Sorry to burst that bubble for you, but she has proven herself to be a bad faith actor for any kind of movement towards democratic socialism in this country. You know democratic socialists, the ones trying to give everyone universal healthcare coverage for an affordable price? Just like what the rest of the industrialized western world already has and have had for decades now? No other party cares about actually delivering on this fundamental human right. Just sayin....Nomi’s actions contradict her online rhetoric.

Wow I didn't even notice that. It suits him

Omg his eyes are beautiful

Bryan Conrad what eyeshadow? Who’s?

Where???? He really needs to up his game. I say More Please!

That or Conure, tbh