Me on my way to break into Vaush's room while he's asleep, shake him vigorously until he wakes up screaming, and then give a silent masculine nod to his confused and terrified face before casually walking away:
This was mind blowing. I was in absolute awe at his complete lack of knowledge on "the nod". This was simultaneously one of the most insane and hilarious stream moments holy shit
It took me way too long to see through his hyperbole and realize that he honestly didn't know. I'm shocked. "I only acknowledge the presence of other people if I need something from them" and lecturing us on the specifics of "social protocol" were peak autism moments
I kind of side with him. Kind of. I go for a walk every day, and it’d be really weird and antisocial not to say hi to my neighbors and just nod instead.
For me the nod was more common in school when I was walking about, saw a student I knew, nodded to them to acknowledge I saw them and then went about my day
as a Dude Bro I never been so disappointed in Vaush in my entire life. How the hell does this man who was born in California doesn't know proper dude etiquette. I'm so proud of Chat for calling him out.
@@Nersius The Nod is universal but it's very common in the West Coast. A Upward Nod is for friends and family. A downward Nod is for strangers. Girls can do the Nod but it's more common with Guys/Dudes
@@thereasonabletroll68 That is not a nod. A nod is something you do to someone you are already having eye contact with. It is to move your head up then down without stopping while looking in to the persons eyes. You may do it when you agree with someone while talking. You may do it because you are to insecure to say hello. You may do it while smiling because you are a creep.
@@thereasonabletroll68 I have never nodded down in my life or seen anyone do that 😂 Dufuq? The upward “what up” nod is very real but what the shit is a downward nod? I can’t even imagine doing that it seems so awkward and unnatural
@@coolbanana165 the nod that guys tend to do with each other , that vaush is flabbergasted about. A lot of trans women become aware of this social signifier and have to exert effort NOT to nod. Because it’s so ingrained in male socialization, or not if you’re vaush, many trans women working to adopt more feminine signifiers find it a difficult habit to shake.
@@JohnBosson that's terrible! trans women should feel free to nod to their hearts' content! everybody should nod, it's like a mini yoga stretch with social benefits
Can we just take a minute to appreciate the absolute chad move of literally presenting Vaush with a real clown nose IRL and convincing him in the middle of his Autistake to wear it on stream? The hero we deserved at the time we needed. Total king.
Maybe this is my autism speaking but his argument is flawless man. How is a slight friendly wave, eye contact, a smile, and a hello autistic while doing the textbook autistic traits of brief if any eye contact and rushing through such an interaction possibly not peak autism???
@@thesaltybeard1793 I think what was happening was chat and Vaush arguing over different social "rules" they learned bc of upbringing, I don't do the head nod unless at my friend's (while maintaining long eye contact and saying "sup") and we laugh bc it's weird, but I've also had "the guy nod" done to me when I pass/passed as male, and I personally don't really do either unless someone says hello back bc I avoid stranger conversations as much as possible. It just depends, but I defiantly was psychoanalysizing my own behavior bc of this which made the whole thing funny as well
@@thesaltybeard1793 Because that's not the argument at hand. Nobody said what Vaush was suggesting was an autistic thing to do, that was Vaush completely misunderstanding what people were saying. The autism here isn't Vaush suggesting to do those things, it's Vaush not knowing about one of the single most common and frequently used non-verbal gestures and then refusing to accept it when 90% of people in chat are saying it's a normal thing to do. The head nod is a thing basically every guy does, it's like a default social gesture. Not only did he not know about it, he actively was being obtuse as shit when it was being explained to him. So the conversation here about this being a mega-autistic take isn't because Vaush's ideal greeting is autistic, it's because Vaush was showing massive lack of social awareness by both not being aware of and rejecting one of the most common means of brief social interaction there is.
@@unholylemonpledge9730 tbf, he works on his own time, has editors that he pays, and grew up in Beverly Hills. He's absolutely not a part of the proletarian class. That doesn't make him bad, just not a prol.
@@ilovecoffeev are you kidding? There are two classes: bourgeois and proletariat, and the bourgeois survive (or at least make the vast majority of their income) off of their ownership of shit like businesses, shares in businesses, land, etc (aka private property). Does that describe Vaush? Vaush does labor (making videos), and essentially sells it to RU-vid for a living. I’m confused
A nod is an active jest. But moving your head up to gain eye contact for a short moment then move it back is not a nod. A nod is done while having eye contact. To stare at a person while passing by and in the middle nod is creep as hell.
@@MegaBanne wrong dude. it's a pretty normal response to making eye contact with a stranger but not wanting to do a whole greeting. and you don't have to break eye contact just don't stare creepily. also, it's still a nod no matter where you look
this is the most wrong vaush has ever been. i'm a cis woman and I've always done the upwards and downwards nod to acknowlege someone I make eye contact with if i walk by them. sometimes I say hello but i always nod lmaooooo
i'm cis female and autistic, i give the same up-down nod to any stranger who greets or acknowledges me, but it's like a really quick one that's more like a tilt than the whole formal thing voosh autistically mimed out lol also: i DID KNOW what the chat was referring to once they started *describing* "the guy nod" but this is the first time in my whole life i've ever actually thought "oh yeah, there IS that nod i've seen guys do" in my whole life and im like 30+ .....like ive SEEN THEM DO IT but never once when anthropologically observing the neurotypicals so i can sneakily steal and mimic their social behaviors have i ever thought "and then there is the male gendered nod, ah yes" at least not until chat pointed it out and i searched my memory. and most of my friends have always been guys so i realized i've seen them do it to each other........
@@lethaldream50 i never have heard of it as a gendered thing. At least not here in Germany. Women do it less often but nods are used for communication by everyone depending on the situation. Up and downwards.
@@the-lag-gamerita5446 Even with the levels of brain disease some people have, I refuse to believe any genuine leftist looks at the most common libertarian whining and says "maybe they've got a point". You have to be joking. You surely can't be so deranged as to think your shooty dildos are more than dangerous toys in need of recalling.
I genuinely thought the nod was ubiquitous, as a cis woman I caught onto it very quickly because of have 2 younger brothers and now that's how all of us communicate with each other
I know that there are people who do this, but the guys in my area either ignore you or slightly smile and say "how are ya?". I just smile or look straight ahead
This was a gruesome window into what Vaush sounds like to people who have bad takes on more serious issues. Doubling down and laughing hysterically at the idea of the most basic nonverbal communication..
As an upstate New Yorker, we are physically unable to have a conversation that is shorter than a minute and by law unable to ignore a person after eye contact, so the nod is the only viable option for us or else we will spontaneously combust. But seriously it's just a "sup" without saying it, makes things quick while still appearing sorta courteous.
New York going strong as worst city on Earth. I don't think there is any other city that has as many songs written about how depressing and soul crushing it is.
@@RevolutionaryLoser I've visited NYC about a dozen times and it's a incredible city... To visit. Fantastic cultural mix, charming at times, and at least it has public transportation, but it most certainly is a city built for masochists. Upstate might as well be Georgia and about 70% of people I've met want the city to get statehood because of it's "commie influence" on the overall state vote (real quote).
As a trans woman having to train myself out of the masculine nod has been one if the most difficult parts of transitioning lmfao, it's like a fucking cornerstone of being raised a boy in California
fr i was thinking like that must be hell for trans-women, learning that their are certain movements your body just makes, that instantly clock you as a dude somehow, but that definitely is one of the most obvious and common
Edit I just saw vaush's take on if pokemon Arceus is a mainline game and I take this back. That might be the worst case of gaslighting. This is a close second though
Damn you actually pinpointed vaush's tell that he's gonna have a shit take, literally everytime i recall him having a bad take it starts with something like "You all think x because y but in reality z" and no one ever mentions y.
This was so funny to watch. Vaush is so wrong on this and it's hilarious. Like, while Ive never thought about the head nodd thing to the point I'm doing it upwards for friends and downwards for strangers, but it's a very simple and straightforward social que for A. Im acknowledging you and am non threatening and B. I'm not very interested in interaction -if it's a stranger. Saying "hello" opens the room for conversation bc it also forces them to say it back where as while the nod might force a nod out of them, it's far more EFFECIENT than carrying your voice. Looking them in the eyes, smiling, and saying hello is kinda weird, but more importantly, If they aren't in the mood for talking to strangers, they either have to pretend to have not heard you or maybe intentionally didn't hear you. And now it's awkward. If they have phones in as well. But a simple nod can be seen from a distance and not acknowledging the nod produces no such awkward interaction
I'm also black and it's the standard -passing by/meeting another black person. Etiquette. At least outside of dapping them up, but that's usually limited to meeting in social groups or something, not passing by on the street
@@yournamehere7862 Dude, as a hwite person from Europe, it's shit like this that remind me that I identify more with black americans that white americans. Vaush's lack of melanin on this issue is just offensive, lmao. The upwards nod is such a common thing, it just happens automatically. The real psycho take is that every situation is just an "eye contact + wave + say hi", which is in fact extremely autistic imo. Sometimes you have to acknowledge someone from afar. Other times you do ALL THOSE THINGS AND ALSO NOD TOO like: **eye contact** **nod** "hey, wassup!" **handshake** **fist bump** and done. And you never had to break eye contact. He makes it so weird and complicated lmao
Vaush admitted at some point that he only leaves the house when grocery shopping, i think he might not be the most qualified when it comes to social interaction
The down nod is to agree. I think you are conflating a bow with a nod. A nod it is the combination of back and forth movements that makes up the jest. When you bow you lower your head in respect. Moving your head back up is just what you do when you have ended the jest. The jest in it self is to have a forward tilted head. To have your head tilted back is a sign of contempt. A nod is the jerky back and forth movement.
@@MegaBanne let’s not overthink it bud. You’re sounding like a Vaush. If you’re just passing by someone there’s nothing to agree or disagree with. Up is what’s up, down is hello
I've seen a good amount of Vaush streams, which means I've witnessed Vaush be confidently wrong a LOT. Never this led to Conure coming in and handing him a clown nose. Will say though, "I grew up in a jewish neighbourhood, the clown nose wont fit me" was a banger line, so let's call it even.
you would think that as an autistic person he'd relish in finding a socialization hack that lets you acknowledge a person without having to fully engage with them
it's a nonverbal communication that you can use to communicate the appropriate response to your presence. its like telling someone youve seen them and indicated the attitude you want to communicate to them
@@PropheticShadeZ But I don't even say anything except for a single digit list of people. Its something that happens on long walks most often. I don't even do the nodding at university though, but that's because there are so many people at any given time that it seems like it would be interpreted as more personal, thus the programing tells me it wouldn't be opportune.
In my extremely white and relatively affluent town it's not weird for a stranger to say good morning/afternoon when you're out walking. The nod is just that, but quieter and more common.
Thank you, I was falling for the gaslighting thinking this must be something I still do that no one else does anymore. Even in my 30s I still do the nod. Sometimes just a nod but usually say 'hi' followed by a small nod.
Deluding yourself into believing that staring at strangers in the woods without breaking eye contact as you smile and wave at them is socially acceptable, as opposed to just acknowledging their existence and moving on with your life like a normal person, is the most American thing I could think of.
@@herec0mestheCh33fPresumably common [ Insert whoever you are here ] L Imagine being so salty that you feel the need to clap back at some inoffensive joke poking fun at cultural differences läl Nah, but seriously, what fuck kind of format is this my guy?
The only correct thing to do when crossing someone on a hiking trail is to smile, slight gap between your teeth holding that expression, maintain eye contact the entire time slowly turning your head as you walk by, and say nothing.
I was watching the stream when this was happening and it was the most hilarious thing to happen to me this week. I couldn’t stop laughing I rolled off the bed. 😂😂😂
@@jansettler4828 i mean as an indoctrinated vaushite incapable of thinking for myself i think that he's right about a lot of things but not everything lol. and honestly the main reason i watch him is that even tho most of his politics align with mine, he's just as entertaining when i think he's fucking wrong lol anyway i still need to go watch the monarchy stunlock, i'm very anti-monarchist so predicting i'll agree with your comment...? time to find out lmao
i had the nod being told to me out loud by my biology teacher. Apparently we do the nod and do eyebrow raises to greet people and the like instinctively. She was cool.
I have like, almost zero instinctive understanding of nonverbal communication on account of being literally as autistic as it's possible for a human to be. I have no goddamn idea what's going on.
@@Wimikk This further reinforces my view that I'm basically an octopus in human skin, because I do not have these social instincts baked in. Oops! All Autism
I have experienced the beard nod when I grew it out for a year. I remember the day clearly, a beautiful sunny day on a weekend choir trip in college. About 9 months of beard growth, if I stretched my neck and tugged on the hair to stretch the skin on my chin, the hair could touch my nipple. The beard was dense and stiff yet wavy in shape. It had recently reached a length where a gentle breeze could cause it sway gently. I was walking down the sidewalk, and walked past another man with a beard of respectable luxuriousness. We made eye contact from about 10 feet away, he nodded. I nodded back. This was the moment my beard became a Beard. I joined an elite class that day, one I sadly am not a current member of. It was a moment of mutual respect and admiration for fine facial hair.
I was starting to get worried because I've hardly ever disagreed with anything Vaush says (even the media takes are surprisingly on point). I guess we finally found the line in the sand. This segment actually made me roll on my bed and audibly laugh out loud at like 3am.
Man, this was a great time. When vaush saw my comment about the chin jutting thing, i woke my son up with my laughing. I dont know how much he was playing it up for the laughs, but i need that laugh cause things have been stressful. Thanks vaush!
I live in rural England where there are people so incomprehensible I can't understand their greeting and I work in a good sized city, people in both areas do the nod. There is no demographic that doesn't.
I would love to see Vaush's reaction to saying "Howdy" to some random hiker and the hike just flips out screaming "No you're supposed to nod!!" and immediately blows their brains all over Vaush with a revolver typically reserved for wildlife. A traumatized and confused vaush is a funny vaush.
Honestly Vaush's biggest flaw is that his neurodivergence means he sees the world differently but he refuses to accept anyone else sees it differently than him. His Contra drama was really similar in that he couldn't get out of his own head and put himself in Contra's shoes to see how his actions might come off.
@@johb3930 i dont agree with the op's contra take as an example....i love contra's content, but vaush was unironically in the right on that drama DESPITE the fact that he sperged out hard about it and yes im using that word because a) i'm autistic and b) it's relevant to my next point: as an autistic person with a mostly *only* neurodivergent friend group, i dont think they were being ableist. autistic obstinacy combined with hyperfixation/hyperfocus IS A REAL THING. i get it, i've seen my friends have it about certain things, and vaush also has it *constantly* (which is part of why he's so entertaining to watch even when he's wrong lol)
I was waiting to see this comment. What I find most interesting when going through both that drama and this comment section is the intersection between whiteness, masculinity, and autism. They are all identities that make a person appear to be less capable of introspection. The concept of whiteness was made to gatekeep those who could fully integrate into American society and thus give those considered to be white the capacity to believe in the universality of their worldview/culture, making them more likely to discuss ideas in absolutes. Early male socialization inhibits men from internalizing and expressing their emotions, making them more likely to express ideas ironically (not seriously). Autism is a mental condition that seems to inhibit the intuitive recognition of social cues, making autists more blunt and stubborn than neurotypical people on average. Because of this, it’s difficult to isolate which one of these traits is contributing to the outrage people levy against Vaush for any given take he has. Is it his fault for not checking his privilege, or his detractors for not checking theirs? In the same way that Vaush refuses to accept anyone sees the world differently than him, so to do his detractors. They could have tried to analyze how his autism contributes to these problems, but they can’t look past how they see the world and assume the worst out of his insensitive white masculinity. One other thing I found very interesting was Vaush’s video on Autism Speaks. He mentions how he doesn’t like speaking about his autism (and neurodivergenece more generally) because it does not appear to affect him as much as others and thus making him less representative of the group. This implies he has internalized the belief that he is one of the high functioning autistic people who can operate normally, so he can’t possibly be disabled like his diagnosed mental disorder suggests. When you compound this with his white male socialization, the capacity for introspection on this matter becomes quite limited. We should treat such cases with the same sociological care we do for other marginalized identities. Broader cultural attitudes on neurodivergence care about surface level awareness on behavioral quirks, never diving deeper into psychological phenomena that would make others operate within different cognitive frameworks. Oh yeah, before anyone says anything, I have autism and ADHD. I think this info-dump is decent evidence enough lol.
@@lethaldream50 I dunno, I thought Contra was right. Vaushes joke could help make trans activists look sexist, and I that was Contras point too. But, it's not a big deal. I think she made a mountain out of a molehill by blocking Vaush over a joke. Especially when she makes edgy jokes. So maybe everyone was a bit wrong for a few reasons.
@@kristofinpo2691 "This implies he has internalized the belief that he is one of the high functioning autistic people who can operate normally" now THIS is ableist lol
I do actually think the fact that nodding at someone has become more prevalent than doing a slight wave with a smile and saying hi is a marker on how the average ability of people to socialize in public has gone down. Vaush is correct that what he says is more sociable but he is incorrect in the statement that the nod is not very prevalent.
I'm way more autistic than Vaush and basically just a vaguely human-shaped octopus. I have basically negative natural ability to socialize in public. Honestly, at this point I ain't fucking figuring it out.
Strongly disagree, i think what Vaush is saying is antisocial even. Different degrees of social interaction in different contexts are useful to not cause confusion. A hello, especially if you know the person, can be an invitation to talk, but if you didn't mean to talk to them and walk past them the other person would wonder what that was about, maybe even perceive it as rude because to them you just invited them to a conversation and walked away. A nod serves the purpose of a hello but doesn't invite to a conversation, negating that confusion
Everybody in my neighborhood from people my age to the old couples walking down the street do the nod. Sometimes it comes with a hi or hey, but everybody does the nod. You don't do it all the time, but if you make eye contact for more than a split second, do something. The nod is the go to. Most of the time I'm just looking at my phone or my dogs, but if my eyes meet someone else's it's weird to just break contact as if I wasn't looking at them. Also it's nice to just give people a subtle hello. It's not like an all or nothing gesture. You just do it when it feels right.
lmao "what kind of sociopath nods". As opposed to the well adjusted person who stares at a waiter pouring their drink, desperately hoping their attempts at making eye contact are noticed so the waiter thinks "my, what a non-autistic person this must be."
If I was walking and some stranger said "hello" to me while maintaining eye contact and a smile I'd know they were autistic. You don't stare at the person you're passing, you look at where you're going or the road or whatever and then when you're about to pass each other, you do the nod. Haven't you heard of trans guys getting gender euphoria from getting the nod from other men that silently acknowledges you as a man?
@@MyceliumNebula You're the one saying it's autistic to make eyecontact and say hello to a stranger. What else am I to assume but that you come from a very miserable place? New York or London if I had to guess.
Oh my god, I never realized 'up' is for people you know/want to talk to and 'down' is for strangers/people you don't really want to chat with. Despite not knowing this, this is exactly what I've done my whole life.
I had a teacher in middle school where, even if we were all the way across the building from each other but in the same hallway, if the ever-reaching, ever-speedy rays of light happened to meet both his eyes and mine, he would nod very vigorously and shout "HEY, THERE! HOWS IT GOING MAN!?" I was very afraid of that guy.
The funniest part is when Vaush exaggerates what chat thinks waving is but then does the most animatronic nod I’ve ever seen as if people actually nod like that lmaooo
Ohhhh.... So this is what everybody was talking/arguing about in the previous comment sections 😮 (I assumed that 'nodding' was some sort of s3gs thing...)
