Vegeta Doesn't Wear Saiyan Battle Armor 

Plot twist. It never was Sayian Armor, it was Freiza force armor

My best guess... Vegeta requested his armor from Bulma and he picked his favorite features.

oh nah they tryna say my boy vegeta out here rocking temu armor💀😭😭

Vegeta probably made requests for the design. He hated the late namek armor. She does say the armor vegeta “requested” so it’s not unlikely he had some specifications for it. It’s also likely why the android saga armor and the cell saga armor have different boots

they really should've kept the resurrection f designs for goku, its a breathe of fresh air while also keeping it similar to the original designs

Whats interesting though noncanon, is that Raditz in the Budokai games has an alt armor with the more vest design, similar to Vegeta's Namek armor.

I just realized why I like the Resurrection 'F' armor design so much. It bears a heavy resemblance to the armor Vegeta wore during the Namek saga, which is where I first got into watching Dragon Ball Z. Thanks for helping me notice that, can't believe I didn't see it until now. Love these niche-topic Dragon Ball vids!

I love how your ramble just fades into the music. That was refreshing actually.

4:15 What do you mean by "having yellow tips just like real saiyan armor"? Vegeta was rocking the solid white boots when he first got to Earth. Anyway, ultimately what matters is the general aesthetic of the armor, which is why Piccolo doesn't want to distinguish between Bulma's sets and the rest of them. They're too similar, and none of the armor designers seem to be keen on keeping a single standardized type. So these small changes are bound to happen, and further similarities among the different designers would naturally occur since they were all following the same general aesthetic principle.

My head cannon just says that Vegeta had a reference in head on what updated armour looked like and wanted that instead of the older armour he was using, and the boots he was using were just his old ones from namek until they wore out and bulma made new ones that fit the design of Vegeta's new armour. It shows that the 2 of them are spending moee time together, rather than either one of them individually making random decisions on their own. Which considering he lays down pipe around this time, just kinda makes the most sense to me.

Honestly, vegeta look in the buu saga was better it was more of him accepting his life on earth

I think what would have done the series good if if armor was also determined by Saiyan class or position in their military. It would have been a better way to categorize why they all have different armor designs and colors. Because even Toriyama's redesigned amour with the squared-off shoulder pads, and black color, could have had meaning.

I always interpreted it as Vegeta just describing an older model to Bulma, he really doesn't seem to like the one he gets on Namek so if she does make him new armor it makes more sense it wouldn't just be a straight replica of the one he got on Namek

Bruh your thinking way to much into into it. It's reverse engineered armor meaning it functions practically the same as the original, that doesn't mean it's going to look exactly like same though.

Minus is just a complete retcon, also Leek's armor has an extra bit at the hip

Its battle armor. Just a redesign of the original. Its possible different races can have the same ideas, its why spaceships, guns, lasers, houses etc look identical.

I never thought it mattered exactly what the theoretical serial number or product code would’ve been for this particular model of armor.

That's if you can even call that zesty shit armor.

I mean, the Battle Armor that Vegeta wears since the Android Saga is made by Capsule Corporation, so of course it's nowhere near Accurate to the actual real Saiyan or Frieza Force Armor.

There's a very good chance that Bulma took input from Vegeta on that first re-engineered armor set, and he may have given her a history of the design of battle armor. The shoulder strap design could have been something that previously existed, and hadn't been used for some time that Bulma decided to use as a bit of personal flair.

4:18 for those small details, maybe Vegeta himself told Bulma about them

Nobody cares As long as Vegeta wears his armour Whether desigined , stolen , made , found , or even given to him

Instantly addicted to this channel. These videos are so great

I think this may be an example of convergent design. That is, it's not that bulma got the idea from somewhere else, but rather that in reverse engineering the armor vegeta came to earth with, her improvements eventually settled on a design as a matter of practicality, and it just so happens that that's the best design style for its purpose that other people have also discovered.

The only plausibility to me is just that Minus is a bit of a retcon, with the armor. Where as in the original run, Vegeta was the only one with that design, so it would have been easier then to say it was original from Bulma or even influenced by the Yardrat shoulder straps. Toriyama might have just reused it as a design, because its just viewed as Saiyan armor, and not Bulma's armor. Unless now, its only arguable to assume Vegeta just told her that was what he wanted if it had meaning. Like if it was for something specific like over the other designs. Because there has to be a reason why Krillin and Gohan had the pauldron Freeza soldier design, while he didnt take it. (At the same time he was turning against Freeza, symbolically?)

I always imagined that bulma designed her armor to look similar to vegeta's early namek saga look bot removed the shoulder wings either at vegetas request. (Perhaps he realized in his fight with frieza that he perfered the mobility of not having them over the minor protection they provide) or bulma simply removed the wings because she personally didn't like them aestheticly.

I think this is what they call “stretching a point”

Huh It's almost like you've forgotten Bulma makes his armor.

In universe, it was probably just Bulma coming up with a similar design by coincidence. Out of universe, I'd imagine Toriyama decided to have a bunch of alternate armors and ended up drawing the extra lines on back to differentiate it.

The clear answer to the boot question is that Vegeta dropped something heavy on his toes, and thus the yellow plating added to the toe tips for future iterations (but Vegeta refuses to wear the updated design)

Bruh why the atmosphere so personal. When we just talking bout an armour

It's an another example of Akira toriyama forgetting things😂 Rest in peace legend 😢

I think this is the timeline of events The Saiyan's invent the armour then use in in their invasion of planet Tuffle and then they take over an unknown amount of planets catching the attention of King Cold who hires them an mass produces the Saiyan battle armour for the rest of his forces as well as the Saiyan's and obviously they made different variations and upgrades over time

4:40 you don't need to have an anti theory message, thinking about this small details is part of the fun sometimes.

Bro I thought the title showed black vegata with waves and vegeta u can’t be the only one

I think that Vegeta just drew up/gave a description of a form of standard issue battle armor, like just the first set that came to mind, and it would just so happen it would be the same kind that the *REAL* Bardock and Leek wore for some reason. Maybe he just found it more comfortable than those big ass shoulder pads or that stiff looking tank top

My head canon is that Bulma took The Old style Armour that Vegeta wore when he was fighting Frieza on Namek,Made some adjustments to the Design and Flexibility and Gave it to Vegeta to try on.

I love the idea that sayians/frieza are so uncreative when it comes to armor that bulma accidentally made a near identical armor set

How you know Dragon Ball is great is because thousands of us care about something as small as armor designs, & are willing to watching videos comparing them

I Believe it’s a special suit for vegeta himself which he can modify and alter

I'd think Bulma got the shoulder strap design from the yardrat clothes goku brought back...

Sense when did saiyans have their own unique armor😭 this just seems like a common type battle armor, sense even the Frieza force wore it.

As you mentioned, the armor in question is now outdated. It has either been phased out, destroyed, or repurposed to create the armor currently worn by the majority of Frieza's forces. The one that Vegeta has could be a legacy model, or the three previous scenarios have yet to happen.

I wonder though, is the armor something from Saiyan culture, or something Cold imposed on them after colonizing them? (since he and his soldiers wear it too). Because if it's the latter, I don't see why Vegeta would want to keep it.

Guessing this guy never watched the Namik saga, where Vageta took his first one from and gave both Krillin and Gohan theirs, Vageta even stated that the one he took was the newest model of Freiza force armor and the ones he gave to krillin and Gohan where older models..😂

You're right, this is pretty pedantic. Especially when Toriyama admitted that he accidentally switched SSJ3 and SSJ2 around a lot during the Buu Saga. Which is why we almost never see SSJ2 in the Buu saga

4:21 💀

Saiyan armor was replaced by this which is Frieza armor. This video being completely wrong aside, I always just thought they could have small deviations in their armor and some saiyans, or their armor smiths, were usually just not very creative, and lower ranks would get the most copy/paste styles. I mean look at DBS Broly. Broly also does not wear saiyan armor, or Frieza armor by your logic. I like it, but it looks completely different from anyone else's and now Frieza Force armor has square shoulders, it's like a retcon. It's not supposed to make sense. It just is this way now. The new square pauldron armor is way more numerous and a way crazier retcon to me than Vegeta's old DBZ armor lol. This is some weak sauce.

i actually dislike that vegeta went back to wearing his armor it seemed slowly through the arcs that his armor got smaller and smaller until buu where all he had was jumpsuit and gloves. by gt standards he went full native and was wearing regular clothes that too was step to far idk somehow his putting armor back on felt regressive.

Vegeta's armor looks similar to bardocks harbor except for its green instead of yellow.

I feel like bulma just rushed to get it done and added the shoulder straps and it could be argued that bulma made the oldest battle suit armor the saiyans have due to not having the right equipment to make one of the newer models

I mean, his armor breaks a lot, so in universe bulma probably tweaked the design a bit over time, like his boots

Plot twist: Bulma owns temu

Alternative theory: the armor from earth somehow made its way off-planet, and they loved it so much they used it instead… and she continued updating it, since he keeps breaking it.

I think that real life armies might actually have a workable explanation for this. In real life weapons used to vary significantly (even for the same so called models of weapon, vehicle, uniform etc) based on which contractor manufactured this for the army. You can see this most prominently with the German WWII tanks, which often times had almost completely different setups even for the same model due to a lack of standardization. Or how Springfield Armory almost ruined the armalite rifles when they modified them into the M-16s to try and push a higher firing rate out of a gun that wasn't designed for that. Between that and it likely being possible if not common for soldiers to modify their gear it's not impossible for the saiyan in minus to have a design coincidentally similar to Bulma's, nor is it impossible that Vegeta preferred a design like that but simply didn't always have the ability to get that due either to him wanting to look more like his father or due to him losing status after Freeza killed the saiyans

I'd like to think that the in-universe reason Vegeta has that design is because he told Bulma how he wanted it to look. There is no rule set in stone that all of Freeza's soldiers would have the exact same suit designs. There are times when some designs are combined to make a completely different suit.

Convergent Evolution XD

Wasn't it mentioned right after Vegeta and Trunks came out of the time chamber during the Cell Arc that Bulma based the design off of original saiyan armor? I thought everybody knew that.

Thought everyone knew it was made by Bulma for him, and others, at various times.. It is literally mentioned in multiple episodes and in various Manga panels.

I figure vegeta was involved in the design and the part about bulma reverse-engineering it was more about the tech involved to actually produce the thing to standards vegeta is used to making it a real saiyan design that a real saiyan instructed her on while she genius'd a way to make it with human technology

Bulma doesn't need to have seen the armor with shoulder straps to make one. Vegeta must have known about that model and asked for those features. Frieza's army has lots of different armor styles and they could add even more and it still make sense. Buma's version is indeed copied from the Frieza force armor, just not an exact version she saw directly.

Who knows maybe she customize and may be upgraded the Namek saga armor to look like the one that we all know and love

I love videos like this trying to break down and analyze something the Akira Toriyama never even thought about lol. The way he writes he doesn’t even pay attention things like that. He probably drew that armor on that other Sayin because he thought it looked good on him. That is how he operates.

No this is incorrect. Vegeta sported the armor in the freiza saga. It is saiyan armor

It is sad that being a Dragonball fan mostly means knowing which bits of official media you need to ignore.

His race and planet are long gone, so he has to take what he can get in terms of saiyan gear, authentic or copy cat. So yeah, he only had a bunch if the newer frieza force gear in the absence of traditional saiyan Armour, but it's stilled based in HIS people's armor. Imagine if all American clothes were nearly wiped out, then an American stumbled across something incredibly similar to jeans, they'd probably wear them.

It shows his character development, him living on earth and becoming more human than saiyan

It's called a BATTLE JACKET not Saiyan/Frieza/whatever armor. Bardock wore a similar type of battle jacket Vegeta wears in the Android Saga in the Bardock special episode. The special IS cannon since it appeared in the offical original Dragonball manga. Super is an alternate timeline so you can either go by the original story or the Super story🤓💯

0:00 yeah of course it's not sayan power armor, its the armor icon from Budokai Tenkaichi 3.

I would have perfered a Proper Saiyan Armor, with the Shoulder Pads, & the Armored Skirt.

1:24 end of discussion

"I Made More of the Battle Suits that Vegeta Asked For Last time" this clearly indicates that the suit design was made via Vegeta's imput, leading me to think that Bulma got the design from Vegeta's own description of it and most likely gave it some modifications to make it more durable and still flexible. It only makes sense for it to be that since if not than that one sentence wouldn't make sense at all.

Just a thought There is a real life concept that i think is called space conscience That mutiple people can have the same ideia despite never having interacted with the other The main example is denis the menace Wich there are 2 characters with this name both create with very little time apart one being american and the other being british And the autor of both have talked about this and how they have no ideia on how it happend

Toriyama forget ssj2 exited

Even as the creators in heaven, you’re still considered nobody to him you don’t have the right to tell him what what and what he can’t do in his own series

another possibility: The artist forgot how real 'old armour' (like vegeta's namek armour) actually looked and simply referenced vegeta's android saga armour

this video, really didnt need to be made. if we dont include filler then, indeed Vegeta DOESN'T wear Saiyan armor. the design is from the army that later would become the Freeza force. with new lore: True Saiyan armor actually looks like cabbas and shallots. why did bulma make it look like it did? Vegeta told her to. simple as that.

Can we talk about the African American looking Saiyan at the front of the right side of the TV screen in front of King Vegetas throne when he talks to Bardock about Broli in the New Broli Movie?

Maybe the origin of the armor is the material it is made of? The saiyans were a warrior race they could have pillaged it off of some world.

Saiyan/freezer force armor design has no rhyme or reason, probably because freezer doesn't care if his forces accesorize or tinker with the design. The only armors that have any sort of theming are the ginyu force and and the royal armors. Everything else is fair game.

I'm just surprised nobody's rocked a codpiece.

My mind was blown.

That was bulam version for earth and also frieza armor

A mountain out of a molehill

It is Saiyan battle armor, it's just Bulma's version.

(about the solder at the end there) or what if Bulma was funding Capsule corp by supplying small batches of armors to Freaza army. 😂 i just can't stop smiling while imagining Bulma sitting in the table with King Cold and negotiating a trade deal for those armors. 🤣

it isn't "saiyan battle armor". it's just "battle armor". same with what saiyans and frieza force personnel wear. where it comes from doesn't matter, if you ask me. it's just the style favored by many individuals in the galaxy. some wear sleeker armor ("Bulma's Armor"), some wear fancier armor ("saiyan/Force armor").

Probably overthinking it 😅 Toriyama straight up forgor that Launch existed.

I belive that is patern saiyan armor not a error after all did have many saiyan and their class, so i don't think that is a timeline error.

The ending was great 😂

Don't fuck with dragon ball fans, we see a jacket but the zippers on the other side and all of a sudden we cannot comprehend that its a jacket and have to sit around thinking very hard about where this new 'jacket design' could of POSSIBLY come from and how totally different it is from jackets with the zipper on the other side. "How can piccolo know this looks like Saiyan armor?! It doesn't have the shoulders and waist plates, so it looks completely and totally different now! Nevermind that anyone with a basic development of object permeance could see the resemblance"

No shit, Bulma made it more better than the regular saiyan armor.

So u telling me bulma traveled into the future and sold her armor to the sayions and no one noticed whom it was made by until we see Vegeta with Bulma so Vegeta knew about Bulma armor before there was a thing call sayion armor

Imagine a white guy going into a Native American village and start telling them that according to accident texts they don’t ACTUALLY wear Native American battles dresses or clothing. That’s this but instead it’s a fictional character and your a normal human telling a saying his own design isn’t proper sayian clothes lol

Couldn't vegeta just have described to her what this armor looked like which lead to her making it? That would explain how the armor could exist prior to her making it which is also probably why the armor has the pointed toes, and it makes sense that vegeta had at least some minimal input so maybe he just told her about this style of armor in come capacity and she made it 🤷‍♂

The problem with trying to figure out DB canon is the tendency of Toriyama of forgetting a lot of details of his own work, make stuff up on the spot and cut corners.

I believe the sayians didn't create much of anything and other races likely made their armor like the tuffles or frieza provided it to them.

i always thought it was that the straps were inside of the sleeves, not that it actually makes any sense with the lines though

haha, the true mess up is the power boost, acording to canon power, even on namek its already non sense

More like Space Military Amor!