Vemuram Jan Ray vs Shanks - Which Pedal Is Right For You?

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Hey all, today I am comparing two of the best, but most expensive, overdrive pedals I've tried - the Vemuram Jan Ran and Shankd ODS-1. So, if you have been interested in these but not sure which one to go for, this might help you out!
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Time Stamps:
0:00 Intro:
1:52 Today's Rig
3:48 Amp Tone
4:39 Setting 1
5:13 Shanks Les Paul
6:14 Jan Ray Les Paul
7:09 Setting 1 Thoughts
8:37 Setting 2
9:12 Shanks Les Paul
10:38 Jan Ray Les Paul
11:50 Setting 2 Thoughts
13:24 Setting 3
13:50 Shanks Les Paul
16:24 Jan Ray Les Paul
18:04 Setting 3 Thoughts
18:44 Which One Is For You? Final Thoughts
22:10 Horsebreaker Giveaway!
22:49 Shanks Tele Setting 1
23:24 Jan Ray Tele Setting 1
23:55 Shanks Tele Setting 2
24:59 Jan Ray Tele Setting 2
25:48 Shanks Tele Setting 3
27:42 Jan Ray Tele Setting 3

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27 июл 2024

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@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

Hey all - let me know if you have any questions about these two pedals, or ideas for further videos you'd like to see! Cheers :)

@erikringen5664 2 года назад

Thanks a lot! Do you, by chance, know how the Wampler Belle compares to the Shanks? (Se my other comment here.)

@maximilianlun 2 месяца назад

Which from these 2 is more touch sensitive? And better with the Volume poti?

@joetoe9207 2 года назад

Fantastic illustration. Thank you!

@ggus8512 Год назад

Very excellent review and comparison. Thanks much.

@CT-vu5nz Год назад

What an excellent video. The shanks really hits the mark for that everyday OD that can sit well on any board. But that Jan Ray sounds so dynamic and rich, especially dialed up. Definitely grabbing a JR first

@bertvandersanden2008 2 года назад

Excellent review and nice playing. Greetings from Holland!

@dickranmarsupial4911 Год назад

Hey James; really enjoyed this. You are obviously trying to help the viewer/listener, rather than just showing off! Cheers.

@EvanRowsMusic 2 года назад

Great demo- I want them both! :)

@richman6100 2 года назад

Excellent, really informative review, James. Both pedals were very impressive. I found myself preferring the Shanks overall, but the Jan Ray with your Broadcaster was wonderful. Can't wait for a full review of the Rift AL Signature. It's on my list as you know. :-) Keep up the great work.

@apeeg86 2 года назад

Another great video. Personally, I prefer the Jan Ray, but could see uses in my rig for both

@rshock 2 года назад

I’m getting a Shanks this weekend Thank you for the demo

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

Enjoy - it is epic!

@evenstephen2000 3 месяца назад

Great video. Just discovered your channel & have subscribed. I have the new Landau Butter Machine (ridiculously awesome) but now I badly want a Shanks! I agree with you on both and the Shanks is more appropriate for my style of playing.

@tubetone74 Год назад

Excellent review!!!

@brianskudney8448 3 года назад

They are both great. I'm at work with this playing in the background and the one that caused me to turn and check it out was the Shanks 90% of the time. Great video, playing and demo of both pedals.

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

Cheers! Yeah, the Shanks is just absolutely killer

@ericcarpenter3263 2 года назад

Yeah the Shanks is the way to go for what I can tell. I could totally see being at work and just listening, then a sound grabs your attention ….. “whoa wtf is that?!?” And it, for me, and sounds like you …. Shanks. Except I would make it 100% of the time.

@Simon34562 3 года назад

Great video as always!

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

Thanks!

@Cryanoutloud Год назад

Great video, tough call between these pedals, I’m leaning towards the jan ray for that edge of breakup sound

@ramilrodriguez8340 11 месяцев назад

Great demo comparison!! Both sound great but for me the Shanks. There is a beautiful clarity or shimmy tone that I like so much and the overall tone and drive character…

@TapioHaanpera 3 года назад

Geat demo. I have the Shanks. Great pedal for my strat and tele.

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

So good

@AlmyrBatista 2 года назад

Got another brand new follower man. Very cool, very informative (covering probably most of the main questions someone like to figure out from a pedal), well done and soud quality over the reviews, we can get a really good perception of what we could find from the pedals in a future personal live experience. I'm bedroom player, just a hobbist, playing for the pleasure, but I like to gather as quality stuff as I can to reach the tone a Iike from my references (blues, blues rock addicted since ever and for the most of time, rock, funky, some hard rock). I went theses days again in a journey to get a better combination for my '1st and 2nd gain overdrive stage (low-mid / mid-hig gain) from a clean/edge breakup to a crunch/higher gain leads.. TS808 (low gain/boost) +old BD-2 (gain on 14:00 tops - above that it really sucks, to my ears, it's kind too shrill itself). Saw many reveiws of Jan Ray latelly and start thinking aboout it, then, came across to the Nobels ODR-1 and find it a better option.. I'll try it for my "higher overdrive gain stage" to rock stuff, and after your thoughts about the Jan Ray vs Shanks for beadroom players, I think it could be the right and cheaper way to follow.

@myndzi9926 Год назад

I just spent a few hours shooting out the Jan Ray and Shanks with an R9. The Shanks, as you said, is ADDICTING. The Jan Ray by comparison sounds a bit veiled, but is probably the more 'transparent' option. The Jan Ray feels very much like a best in class 'standard' overdrive while the Shanks is something quite special. It has a glassy/sparkly quality that I feel would really sit well in a mix. The Jan Ray is a bit darker and might get lost in the mix a bit easier. Even playing chunky blues rhythms a la Black Keys feel better on the Shanks. They're more round and when playing partial bar chords you can still hear the individual notes. The Jan Ray muddies up a bit easier. I purchased both to decide for myself and I'm so glad that the decision between the two is a lot easier than I expected: SHANKS all the way! Your descriptions were spot on and in line with my thoughts, James. I love your channel even more now. Thanks so much for the wonderful content.

@gorillafunk725 Год назад

The Jan Ray does it for me. It got THAT tone I LIKE 👌 & sings like a musical instrument in & of itself at least to these jaded ears. Nice playing BTW that emphasises the harmonics & tone of the pedals. No right or wrong as its such a personal thing as both are top tier dare I say extensions & nicersiers of your expessive ability.

@aizat3736 2 года назад

i use both on my pedalboard. they compliment each other so well.

@AP-ui7oi Год назад

same here

@BrySquatch 7 месяцев назад

Great comparisons and breakdown. It’s definitely help me decide that I need both 🤦🏻‍♂️ Shanks I think sounds like a match made in heaven for a Les Paul. Gives it the perfect sparkle and grit. The Jan Ray sounds a little better with single coils imo. Gives them that extra warmth and creaminess that gives them a nice singing tone. Both sound amazing for different purposes.

@ParkerDeBaryshe 3 года назад

I love my Jan Ray! I haven’t compared it to anything that it’s supposedly based on/inspired by, all I know is it sounds great. Great video and super in depth, keep em coming! Would love to see more Two-Rock videos as I continue researching which is best for me!

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

Yeah. The Jan Ray is superb 👍🏼 any particular questions I can help with about the TR’s?

@ParkerDeBaryshe 3 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitar Well I loved your video on the Bloomfield Drive, easily the best video on RU-vid about it! Would love to maybe head how it stacks up against say the CRS or maybe the SSS if you can get your hands on one? Been trying to figure out which model is best for me, and I’m leaning towards the Bloomfield but without anywhere close by to test them for myself I’m relying on the Internet!

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

@@ParkerDeBaryshe i’ve been planning a bloomfield vs crs video for ages… i should just do it! I played an sss a few weeks ago - it isn’t for me, too neutral and no compression at all!

@ParkerDeBaryshe 3 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitar awesome, can’t wait for that vid! And I have a Ceriatone JM100 (like the old JM Two Rock) and a vintage Fender bandmaster, so I’m looking for an amp that can do something a bit different, but could also be my one amp, I’m still thinking the Bloomfield is probably the move but would love to hear you do a comparison!

@keithremedy 2 года назад

@@ParkerDeBaryshe get a Bloomfield you’ll love it. I got a older Sterling Sig myself that Bill worked on fairly recently & it’s always going to be my number one but if you want another great lead amp with a superb gain stage that doesn’t get in the way of the reverb go with the Bloomfield. Reason I recommend the Bloomfield even tho I own a SSS is because I got to use a Bloomfield combo on loan for a couple months & fell in love with it and I feel like the SSS is essentially used For one specific thing where as the Bloomfield can do a lot & has a little bit more on the versatility end of things. I mainly used 2*12 that has Ev12s loaded into it & i couldn’t get over how good it sounded. I’m saving up to get one of my own hopefully soon. I honesty think the Bloomfield doesn’t get enough credit. It’s layout is somewhat similar to what Bill originally did with the ODS builds they did back in the day. They both have a more saturated gain stage than the CSR & Custom Reverbs. Another good option would be a build from Taylor at Amplified Nation. One of my band mates has a Wonderland Overdrive & it’s a hell of a amp as well & it’s slightly more budget friendly than TR without sacrificing quality

@sfla99 9 месяцев назад

Hi @JamesOnGuitar truly appreciate the videos and content you are putting out, I also own both the Shanks and the Janray but have been thinking of shelving one, I can’t decide. I am a home blues and rock player, low volume and sometimes feel it’s hard to get the most of these pedals, in your video you mention the Shanks being the better option for lower volumes, after a few years do you still hold this opinion? I just watched your new LP Junior video where you feature the Janray it got me thinking of this video and your opinion, thanks!

@erikringen5664 2 года назад

Excellent review! Thanks a lot. I have the Shanks myself. I'm using it as my edge-of-break-up pedal (into a solid state amp). It gives me a tube-ish kind of feeling that makes me very happy. I'm using it with both the bass and the saturation all the way down (my amp+cab rig is a bit bassy.) I've actually been considering buying one more, to use with more bass and saturation (for my tele bridge PUs), but since they are rather expensive, I've been thinking of buying a Wampler Belle instead for that. Anybody here know how the Belle compares to the Shanks? (They're both inspired by the Nobels pedal).

@mikewallach11 5 месяцев назад

Great demo and playing. Agree with other comment: Shanks for hummers, Jan Ray for single coils.

@mrkutzkee 2 года назад

awesome. Your video sold me, haha!!! I played a Jan Ray for 8+ years as my main pedal - but this might kick it off the board. mine should be in the mail in a couple days. btw did You ever check out another hi-level ODR design, the Nordland ODR? imho it's one of the best dirt pedals ever - plus it's made in Germany by the very guy who literally designed the first, original Nobels ODR circuit. and I can't wait to put those two side to side. and last thing, did I hear You mention Ainsley Lister??? I met him on tour in the early 2000s, sharing bills on some blues festivals. does he make these amps? cheers.

@KalJoao 2 года назад

Just discovered your channel man, LOVE it! Keep up the great work!

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

Cheers! Appreciate it 🙌

@bloodreyna6700 3 года назад

Hi James. I would like to hear you demo the Strymon Sunset because is my only pedal and you are so good twicking the tone and explain what can be hear. I know is a semi digital pedal and maybe that not interest you but, my friend, your room almost a store so ... maybe someone could let you try. Sunset and Les Paul humbucker is my petition. Thanks, great video, I prefer the Jam Ray. Cheers

@esmoroglu 3 года назад

I was so courious about Shanks, thanks so much. I guess it would work wonderfully after a fuzz, too? 👏🏻👋🏼

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

Yes i think so 🤟🏼

@drippinglass 2 года назад

I use it with the Shanks 3K in front... glorious! 😀

@esmoroglu 2 года назад

@@drippinglass 3Ks a rare one, great catch!👏🏻👋🏼

@steveburroughs7343 2 года назад

I use both and love them both. I use the Jan Ray for low/medium gain and the ODS for medium gain. They both stack great with a Hot Cake or K style circuit.

@keithnorton3389 Год назад

Hi there…. Just reading your comment mentioning you have both pedals…. I currently have the shanks and looking to possibly getting the Jan Ray also. Do you ever stack the two together? Shanks into the Jan Ray for a bit of a solo boost? Does the Jan Ray bring out a little more mid range? I know it’s considered transparent but on videos I’ve watched sounds like it has a bit of a mid range boost. Thank you!

@steveburroughs7343 Год назад

@@keithnorton3389 hi Keith! Yes I’ve got them both on the same board and I occasionally stack them, Jan Ray into ODS and it does work well. However, nothing works as well as a Hot Cake into any pedal, and I’m always amazed at how much better any pedal sounds with a HC into it. For example, I have 3 Nordvang pedals, and the HC makes all of them sound better! The Jan Ray, like the ODS, is a great pedal so I’m sure you won’t regret it!

@keithnorton3389 Год назад

Ok thank you for the response Steve! Hot Cake pedal eh…… hmmmm🤔. Here I go down another rabbit hole. Thanks!!

@mizraim5890 2 года назад

I initially thought the Shanks was my bet, but per the demo here and your thoughts I feel the jan ray will suit my needs better... Thanks for sharing

@julienmerelli2191 8 месяцев назад

Great vidéo but i would have loved to hear the jan ray stacked with the ods :)

@sorinbanoiu7259 2 года назад

I have : vemuram TSV808,Jan Ray and Shanks ....all of them are premium and ads a new dimension to your sound, but those are made for diferent purpose SHANKS has a compresed and more modern feel ; the Jan Ray is exceptional on neck for bluesey stuff ( that warm fell like John Mayer sound is fantastic ,it is the opposite to a TS808, so not for riffs on two strings :))) For me the ticket to play all styles is to stack two diferent style low gain pedals ...the Jan Ray stacked with the TSV808 or regular TS808 (you play from bluesey stuff tu 80s rock and you also have basic and lead volume for solos) ....those bouth are GOLD for me (Jan Ray+TS808 or TSV but this one is hard now to find and very expensive) ......so i do not need anymore the SHANKS

@bechhoefereric1291 2 года назад

James i am just listening to the amp Tone, man it is super cool. Can u indicate the Ref of the amp in the header. Thanks no I go back to your vid so far I enjoy it a lot Kudos for your play style love it. By the way I own the jan ray, It make any amp shine. It is the best pedal I ever own.

@drippinglass 2 года назад

I have the 2K, 3K, and 4K. The 3K seems the most versatile and useful to me. They are all great tho.

@maximilianlun 2 месяца назад

@dan what do you think, for a strat: jan ray for bridge pickup, shanks for neck ?!

@dalerschmitt 3 года назад

So, the Protein going away? Too bad they dont make a blue side pedal on it's own. If they made one, stacked with the Shanks is all my pedalboard would ever need except for a couple of good fuzz pedals! BTW...love the humbucker tones!

@Respecttheriff Год назад

Wonder which would serve me well to boost a Tweed Deluxe? Shanks maybe

@buildersmark1515 2 года назад

Nicely done. One critique/question: Where do you have the trim pots set for each pedal. That info would’ve been good to include. Thanks!

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

Good point - i normally mention these things! 👍🏼

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

Definitely tend to keep any sat pots low almost down completely, just fill in with some bass on the shanks…

@buildersmark1515 2 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitar Thanks!

@61jojo61 Год назад

Jan Ray for me.

@braddietzmusic2429 2 года назад

Very nice… but… I already have the Timmy and ODR1 Mini… and these Vemuram pedals are serious money, from my perspective so it’s a matter of spending Vemuram money to sound what percent better than what my Timmy and ODR1 already offers? If I had neither of these pedals, that might be another story. Really good demo. Good pedals. It just doesn’t make much sense for me to buy them at their price points.

@LewWelchThePoet Год назад

👍🏿🤘

@scottgeorge6375 2 года назад

I have a question for you James. With my Strat and through my fender deluxe reverb, even with the bass turned down on the shanks, I get too much lower end in the tone just doesn’t sound right. The Shanks needs more mids and less bass. I can turn the bass down to like 2 on my amp which does help. Wondering if you have any suggestions on a pedal I can stack that will bring up more mids and reduce bass without compromising the tone of the Shanks?

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

Good question! You could definitely try a good ol’ eq pedal. Get the best one you can afford i’d say!

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

Also, for home use you could get a couple of small bass traps and also lift the amp from the floor?

@scottgeorge6375 2 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitar Excellent advice! I’ll try that. I love the way the Shanks feels under the fingers. The compression / feel is amazing and is hard to explain but I know you know what I mean. Last question.. Got a pedal recommendation that would stack well for leads (with the Shanks or not) that has that kind of feel? Tried the Jan Ray but wasn’t crazy about it honestly.

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

@@scottgeorge6375 another Shanks? 😃

@scottgeorge6375 2 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitar Ha! that’s a fantastic answer.

@lanwan 3 года назад

My Harley Benton double-cut P90 into that Two-Rock would be awesome! Never gonna happen 😂

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

Hey, you never know man! 🤟🏼

@coversjms Год назад

does they stack well ?

@aarondurham75 2 года назад

I’ve got the Shanks, a Greer Lightspeed , a RYRA Klone, and a Mythos Golden Fleece. That is my favorite drive section of all time!

@mckorczas7483 2 года назад

How your signal chain looks like with these pedals ?

@aarondurham75 2 года назад

@@mckorczas7483 wah > Fleece > octave > tuner > klone > Shanks > Lightspeed > chorus > delay > Flint

@projectmorf 2 года назад

The shanks sounded a bit like an OCD pedal with the drive on zero and volume up . Sounds nice either way

@joewerry9181 Год назад

Hey nice channel

@ericfarrell1625 2 года назад

As a primarily Strat player which one would be your recommendation?

@hectorherrera7926 2 года назад

I play mainly strats and teles, the only humbucker guitar i use is a 335. I'll buy the jan

@bigtsshackfestival9563 2 года назад

Just got a Jan in today. Sounds better than my kot

@coversjms 6 месяцев назад

what if stacking them both?

@joshua0226 2 года назад

Which one do you like more? Or, which one serves better for what purpose ?

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

I pretty much only reach for the shanks because it can do anything and just suits me more - i like both though but the shanks gives me a bit more of that compression but is so clear even when compressed

@joshua0226 2 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitar yea as I read and wrote it I just sold mine on reverb, it was too expensive and not as useful for my intentions .

@MrMap999 3 года назад

J Rockett GTO .......same like Shank??

@samuelrutherford8107 2 года назад

How do you think a shanks would stack with a tchula before it?

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

very well! i do that myself sometimes. Not gonna be too quiet though...

@rgr4929 3 года назад

Shanks for Telecaster shines more for me :) I prefer it

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

Yeah, really epic with the Tele! :)

@rgr4929 3 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitar Now it would be great that you could compare the Shanks with the Nobels since they are "the same".

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

@@rgr4929 hey - did that one already, in my previous video 👍🏼

@rgr4929 3 года назад

Oh sorry!! You already did it!!! xD

@rgr4929 3 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitar watching it right now!!! :D

@0megalul309 Год назад

Id get a nordland odr c and support the actual designer who does it with better quality and design

@JamesOnGuitar Год назад

I have one too, but tbh the Shanks for me is a better pedal to use 🤷🏽

@bloodreyna6700 3 года назад

James, another thing ... I have been watching a lot of Bonamassa clips, a Les Paul and a tweed, and that is the greatest tone. Those videos are short clips recorded at his house, sure you can find them. If you feel able to get a similar tone with any of your pedals it would be great. Thanks

@bloodreyna6700 3 года назад

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@jetset9561 2 года назад

James you could at least have misfocused on the slightly more achievable Rift Aynsley Lister amp rather than the gold mine Two-Rock Classic Reverb then we wouldn't feel so bad.

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

🤣🤣 so sorry - my bad! I haven’t found a nice way of getting combo amps into the background due to height differences. Thinking i need a milk crate or two!

@jetset9561 2 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitar I'll let you off this time

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

Thank you sir 🤟🏼

@jjboogie1 2 года назад

I wanna sell my Jan Ray and get a Shanks OD now. Thanks.

@JamesOnGuitar 2 года назад

I love both but the shanks is my fave ever od. Cheers

@raydowley1038 3 года назад

Shanks all day for me, anybody selling one, please

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

I’d be surprised if someone sold one! But good luck with the search 🤞🏼

@raydowley1038 3 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitarbeen looking for a couple weeks now on the 2nd hand market and there scarcer than rocking horses shite so they must be keepers for sure

@JamesOnGuitar 3 года назад

That’s a good one 🤣

@raydowley1038 3 года назад

@@JamesOnGuitar or even scarcer than chickens teeth lol

@drippinglass 2 года назад

@@raydowley1038 I just got one. They are in stock at quite a few places. Amelia Island Fine Guitars is where I got mine. $385 free shipping.