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Ven. Fulton Sheen: On the Sin of Divorce and 7 Principles of Christian Order in the Family (1943) 

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Ven. Fulton Sheen delivered this Catholic Hour radio address entitled, "The Christian Order and the Family" on Valentine's Day, Feb. 14, 1943, on the sin of divorce and the breakdown of the family, and the 7 principles of Christian order in the family.
Read the full radio address transcript, "The Christian Order and the Family," (New York City, NY: Catholic Information Society, 1946): goo.gl/pwpMn4

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@whit2642
@whit2642 4 года назад
I am a cradle Catholic who has finally come home to the faith. I was ready to divorce my alcoholic husband of ten years who has never believed or even discussed God. Tomorrow he is attending mass with me after two weeks of no drink. It was all on his own thought. PleaSe pray he finds God and I find forgiveness and if God wills me to stay together with him and somehow find love with him again then move my heart to do his will. Thank you. Amen.
@winebarimunsi4732
@winebarimunsi4732 4 года назад
I pray for you and your husband for God to return your happiness in marriage and to cause you to forgive him and accept him back to your heart as well as thanking God for your husband's giving up the bottle..but then again may be it was your cross to carry...I pray for you and your family...
@franzitaduz
@franzitaduz 3 года назад
Ii hope by now you are on the road back to each other and real marriage. It is said that when you get to the place where the worst is finally out in the open, that the real gold has been discovered in learning to forgive, and trust. Alcoholism is also a physical thing and must be treated. Together, working on the reasons he chose to drink, and you chose him will get you there!
@bigal3248
@bigal3248 3 года назад
God bless you and your husband. We pray for all the families of America and the world.
@samueldiaz1508
@samueldiaz1508 Год назад
I have a similar situation with my wife, only thing is she doesn't have any addictions, but doesn't believe in God. Pray for me, and I'll pray for you, my Sister in Christ and Mary! God bless You and your family! 🙏🏼❤️‍🔥
@francissullivan6400
@francissullivan6400 4 года назад
My marriage was hit with a Tremendous blow but by The HOLY SPIRIT I am still married to the GREATEST WIFE still .Thank You LORD
@eriklindhurst5793
@eriklindhurst5793 6 лет назад
If you disagree with this, you need to listen again and think more deeply about what he is saying. It is profound.
@fmayer1507
@fmayer1507 5 лет назад
How truly profound "Marital happiness is not possible without sacrifice." Wow! That is truly wisdom for the ages.
@paulbrule5897
@paulbrule5897 4 года назад
No true happiness is possible without sacrifice, for the joy of Easter there has to be a crucifixion
@cindylawrence1515
@cindylawrence1515 3 года назад
Remember, this address was delivered IN 1943!! with the social and spiritual conditions which even THEN constituted a grave peril and emergency.....what could and should be said about ourselves nation's moral condition today?
@promotechno7266
@promotechno7266 5 лет назад
This man is God sent to USA and the entire catholic church and the world in general. May you live forever in eternity.
@datinchristievengadesan6636
@datinchristievengadesan6636 7 лет назад
Help all struggling couples Lord Jesus
@datinchristievengadesan6636
@datinchristievengadesan6636 7 лет назад
Thank you for the link, I just adore FJS"s lectures, his wisdom, his humour and most of all the truth his delivers as Christ taught it. We in 2017 can benefit, ponder and grow in Christ, just imagine this was spoken in 1943.
@linaciantar8451
@linaciantar8451 6 лет назад
Datin Christie Vengadesa
@thomasmazanec9704
@thomasmazanec9704 6 лет назад
Ahhh...huh?
@howardoller443
@howardoller443 2 года назад
@@thomasmazanec9704 It appears to be a foreign language, possibly latin.
@reginabillotti
@reginabillotti Год назад
@@howardoller443 Doesn't look like Latin or any of language I speak to me. Google Translate suggests it may be Indonesian.
@tonynguyen1384
@tonynguyen1384 3 года назад
Please pray for my marriage. My wife and I are separated. God’s will be done if I must suffer through this time frame but please God, do not let my family break apart
@ryananthony4840
@ryananthony4840 2 года назад
I hope things got better, I know the feeling
@Johnny-xh6lr
@Johnny-xh6lr Год назад
I have the same problem. 😔
@grant2149
@grant2149 Год назад
Update?
@tonynguyen1384
@tonynguyen1384 Год назад
Thank you for all thoughts and prayers.. thank you for checking on me @Grant. I am divorced and living in a separate state as my son now due to work and more family and a support system. I have not lost faith in God for I know this is a trial that I must go through. It is very painful, but through all the suffering and prayer, I hope to gain sanctification. Thank you for all your prayers for strength and courage. May God bless
@grant2149
@grant2149 Год назад
@@tonynguyen1384 👍🙏
@iwogajda5253
@iwogajda5253 3 года назад
"Oh Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You!!!"
@iwogajda5253
@iwogajda5253 3 года назад
"He who refuses to pass through the door of My mercy must pass through the door of My justice!!!"
@cassandraleetodd2426
@cassandraleetodd2426 6 лет назад
JMJ Spent many hours growing up watch and listening to Venerable Fulton J. Sheen. Any goodness in me is due to his explaining how to live a moral life. We also had weekly discussion in school (Our Lady of LOURDES in Chicago) with all the students and learned how to express our feelings in front of our peers. The Nuns (BVM) Blessed Virgin Mary Order provided the greatest educational experience so that by graduation from 8th grade each student was ready for the world: work, relationships; goals; business; and most importantly to live a life of giving contributing goodness to the community and to always be of service. Now writing to Pope Francis to petition Venerable Sheen to Sainhood. You see WE became homeless and near death and WE prayed to Father Sheen and a miracle happened: we are recovering from the targeted evil devastation and are surviving again. Praying to Father Sheen to keep my sanity and health to keep going and provide for my grandchildren. Yes. We write JMJ on all our school papers and still write JMJ on all my personal communications. Now I need to start writing personal individual letters and stories to all my children, family members and friends to tell them how much I love them, how blessed I was to have them in my life and share so many loving memories. As I am ready to meet my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 75 years is a long time and feel I have worked enough double shifts as a Registered Nurse, provided instruction to over 500 RNs; opened a successful small business in 1994 providing state approved Nurse Assistant, Home Health Aide, Certified Phlebotomy Training and Continuing Education: C & S Health Education Services in Granada Hills, CA. Now my ex-husband of 42 years took control as I had to divorce him for infidelity and gambling away millions of dollars I earned throughout our marriage. Yes, my home of 42 years was foreclosed and lost all from his gambling and financial mismanagement. But that was the way I was raised. Your husband took care of all finances. Gave him every cent I earned. He will meet his Creator one day and will answer to GOD as will we all. Now in another State with 1 of my 5 adult children and my grandson. Will do my best to find an RN position for an employer that will hire me at my age. Or will soon meet my Lord and be relieved from all this homelessness and financial worry because I am so tired. Writing all this down relieves my fears and worry that I have for my children. GOD bless everyone to always be safe, healthy, happy and thriving. Cassandra Todd Carraway, RN, PHN, MSN, EdD Woodstock, Georgia
@brutonano9521
@brutonano9521 5 лет назад
Ma'am, I'll pray for all of you.
@julianutman6379
@julianutman6379 4 года назад
Marriages are made in Heaven.They are meant to be sacrificial. A beautiful Sacrament, a gift from God. Children are God's gift to enrich the marriage.
@puifongtse9121
@puifongtse9121 4 года назад
Even my marriage have a lot of sacrifices in the deepest, I still believe love in Jesus's name I pray. He is the greatest blessing and healer under any circumstances in our life. Thank you Bishop Fulton Sheen's inspired teaching.
@catholicmama1572
@catholicmama1572 3 года назад
This is absolutely beautiful ❤️
@elviradonaghy5422
@elviradonaghy5422 5 лет назад
MAY GOD OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN SAVE US. PLEASE GOD RESTORE US TO DO YOUR HOLY WILL. MARRIAGE IS THE WILL OF GOD .
@peters8162
@peters8162 4 года назад
Truth powerfully spoken.
@iwogajda5253
@iwogajda5253 3 года назад
""-Mankind will not have peace until it turns with trust to My mercy!!!""
@feaokautai7354
@feaokautai7354 6 лет назад
Excellent wisdom on marriage morally Divine!! Sex is spiritual...truth. That's why physical & spiritual Chastity is one of the 3 promises ideal for Priests & Religious consecrated life is rooted only in Christ to live joyfully regardless of carnal challenges of the world. Bless the Lord for holy mind & will as Ven Fulton Sheen. He is a man for all seasons.
@e.a.p3174
@e.a.p3174 4 года назад
I think the sex abuse scandals prove that chastity is not so simple. Homosexuality is also rampant in the Catholic Church all the way up to the Vatican.
@mountainofthunder92
@mountainofthunder92 3 года назад
@@e.a.p3174 blasphemy!!
@howardoller443
@howardoller443 2 года назад
@@e.a.p3174 Yes, all sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman is sin. If you look at the total number of priests in the world compared to those who have committed such sin, it is a very small amount. None of that sin is acceptable in any way, but one would be unwise to "throw the baby out with the bath water" by unfairly painting all priests with such a wide brush. Many priests are wonderful men who sacrificially serve the Lord.
@ryananthony4840
@ryananthony4840 2 года назад
I think he said sex is of the flesh and love is spiritual lol...... I just heard that part rt after reading your comment
@MyImmaculateQueen
@MyImmaculateQueen 3 года назад
We need the sacramental graces of the Holy Sacrament of Matrimony to survive the stormy seas.
@Gottaloveguitars427
@Gottaloveguitars427 2 года назад
Wow, just wow!
@johnjon1823
@johnjon1823 6 лет назад
Really you need to listen closely and more than once to this presentation to appreciate the rather prophetic nature of it as well as grasping some understanding of how far things have fallen. Notice how even in 1943 he speaks of economics and cost of children, showing how even then people were rationalizing contraception. A real sociological study on morals then and now considering his talks were widely disseminated and accepted then compared to how the culture might receive them today. He is rather St. Paul-esque and boldly so.
@EternallFllame
@EternallFllame 6 лет назад
Thank you
@familiasalcedo3581
@familiasalcedo3581 2 года назад
The economic must be expanded to fit the human. Marital happiness is impossible without sacrifice as it wounds the spouse’s selfishness . Pray the rosary every night to keep the family together.
@stellabuz6967
@stellabuz6967 6 лет назад
why there are so many marriage annulments done in the church. How many children suffer when they see their parents remarry and start new "Family". There is only One Holy Family and there is only One Family and that is until death.
@paulleilua2393
@paulleilua2393 5 лет назад
I married a woman who allegedly had married twice had 2 children girl from her first & a boy too her 2nd husband l married her I was single
@paulleilua2393
@paulleilua2393 5 лет назад
Help me am l doing the right thing answer my question please
@gracievelazquez5795
@gracievelazquez5795 5 лет назад
paul leilua hi. I’m not sure if you are doing the right thing. Maybe speak to your parish priest. I was married and had two children with my first husband. Married through a justice of the peace when we were 19 and 20. It was a very bad marriage but we stuck it through for 6 years. We’re both Catholic but didn’t practice it during our marriage. We divorced and I remarried a man who was single. He’s a truly blessing and I also had questions about our marriage. I wanted him to go to heaven and I didn’t want to be the cause of his not being able to enter. After many years, I finally went back to the Catholic Church, spoke to my parish priest and started the annulment process. For one year and a half, my husband and I did not have any type of relations. We lived and slept in the same bed because we didn’t want our kids to think something was wrong. I just wanted to do things right, as much as I could, and he agreed too. This past September, our marriage of twelve years was convalidated by the Catholic Church. Failure of my first marriage was hard for me but I truly believe God granted me a second chance and He blessed me with an amazing man. If you have any doubt, speak to Jesus. Then do what He says. Prayers to you brother.
@UniversidadKerygma
@UniversidadKerygma 5 лет назад
@@paulleilua2393 The right thing is to pray for the understanding, wisdom, counsel, knowledge and fortitude of the Holy Spirit. No 2 cases are the same. No 2 people are the same. No plan of God is the same for 2 people. 1. If God put happiness in you (and you will know iy because you will want to become a daily mass catholic instead of a once-a-week catholic.) By being neae this person and this person is drag to the church because of you or you by her: then God is in that relationship. 2. Discernment should be done NOT in youtube but with your parish counsel and another resource. Why I would want 2 priest from diferent parishes or sources helping me? Because you never know who is there to fulfill God's plan and whos there to be a stumble rock.
@giseleademers
@giseleademers 5 лет назад
We can thank Paul Vi and his Vatican II council for this… annulment are based on a heretical definition of marriage… for the sake of promulgating catholic divorces…
@daninspiration4064
@daninspiration4064 4 года назад
Pray for us during this time of suffering .....
@promotechno7266
@promotechno7266 5 лет назад
Amen
@pangelinguagloriosi1
@pangelinguagloriosi1 6 лет назад
had me at "there will one day come a haunting conscience" !!!!!!!!!! (one known for many exclamation points)
@thevintagepoet
@thevintagepoet 3 года назад
What would he think now. We are so much worse
@szatanowska
@szatanowska 5 лет назад
wow, do You have all Fulton's speeches - texts in Pdf?
@scott6504
@scott6504 4 года назад
He was a prophet.
@howardoller443
@howardoller443 2 года назад
In what way? I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you. A prophet is defined and appointed by God. I just want to hear your reasons for saying Bishop Sheen was a prophet.
@johnjon1823
@johnjon1823 6 лет назад
Perhaps the pope might take a listen.
@vivalospepes1402
@vivalospepes1402 5 лет назад
Haven't even watched this yet. I had a marriage from Hell still do except for it's not as bad as it was. I think it would have been better for my own soul and my children's had I separated from my emotionally verbally abusive spouse long ago. You need to get yourself into heaven and if somebody is an obstacle you need to get away from that obstacle. I'm not talking about remarriage. I'm talking about a legal separation
@seekeroftruth399
@seekeroftruth399 4 года назад
I didn't realize that the U.S. Supreme Court decided the question of divorce. Bishop Sheen was speaking about this in this video in 1943, but his analysis is correct that a true marriage is based on a "spiritual" bond -- not on sexual excitement, which will cease soon enough. Look at the results today of not understanding that truth: millions of children from unwed unions with no fathers in the picture; billions of taxpayer dollars given out in government programs to assist these irresponsible mothers and fathers and their illegitimate children; domestic violence; the abuse of women; the necessity of women's shelters. That 1943 U.S. Supreme Court Decision must have been based upon the fact that modern men and women didn't understand the truth of the necessity of a "spiritual" bond which was required for their long-term happiness. I would say it is easier for a person to have that "spiritual" bond with their pet dog or cat than with another person. If, as Bishop Sheen says, that divorce is wrong because "Almighty God says it is wrong," then why did Moses teach that a man could get married multiple times? Moses taught that it was o.k. for a man to be married up to "three" times, and I believe it was that the poor woman could only get out of the marriage if her husband divorced her.
@qwizzler
@qwizzler 2 года назад
Jesus said that marraige is indissoluble and that Moses allowed divorce because of the hardness of the hearts of men. Its in Matthew 19:8
@howardoller443
@howardoller443 2 года назад
@@qwizzler YES!!!
@pattiroche5144
@pattiroche5144 3 года назад
Why hasn't Venerable Archbishop Fulton Sheen been made a saint yet? Also, it looks like the picture above was cut and pasted by some hypocritical egg-oistical(as Archbishop Sheen pronounces it) person to cause confusion. The lady in the wedding dress was definitively pasted in there.
@jamesbradford2160
@jamesbradford2160 Год назад
“2 + 2 = 4 is a catholic doctrine” 😂 I don’t think he realized just how right he was
@michelespinosa7396
@michelespinosa7396 2 месяца назад
there have been many popes and clergy that have done horrible things.. worse than what you have mentioned. That doesn’t mean that what they have done is condoned by the church. Church teachings are very clear regarding the sinfulness of the abuses committed by those charged with administering and leading the church. The church does not equal the pope and/ or others. It’s not the pope’s church. If you want to understand what the church teaches, read the catechism of the Catholic Church. You can’t kill the message because its messengers are sinful. I used to equate the two as one and the same as you are doing now. You live and learn….
@buckshot6481
@buckshot6481 11 месяцев назад
This was 1943 ?? Oh Lord. 😮
@Christabbaword
@Christabbaword 5 лет назад
Jesus appeared to me on a dream touched my shoulder gently and said: “R member the last words before I went to heaven.” So I went to a priest and said I want to leave my wife and children and come to the church. The priest said to me no because you are married. THAT SPARKED A DESIRE IN MY HEART TO UNDERSTAND MOTHER WISDOM THAT IS THE SISTER OF MY FATHER JESUS. Furthermore a nation ILLYRICUM AND THE FREE MOTHER OF THE NATION MOTHER SARAH. 1 Corinthians 9 Don't we have the right to take a believing wife MOTHER SARAH along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord's brothers and Cephas BLESSED MARY?
@dennislarson9560
@dennislarson9560 2 года назад
This is from 1943? In the middle of a world war, the family is being threatened by divorce?
@reginabillotti
@reginabillotti Год назад
I don't know if the date is correct. I thought no fault divorce wasn't implemented nationwide until the '60s and '70s, and I'm having difficulty finding a relevant Supreme Court ruling in 1943.
@STHFGDBY
@STHFGDBY 4 года назад
I love listening to Fulton Sheen, but on the subject of divorce I know the church is against it, and I know the bible says that if you divorce your wife or husband and you bed another you make that person an adulterer along with yourself. But my question to Bishop Sheen would have been '' If your husband or wife is beating you up or maybe physically or sexually abusing your children, is it right to stay with that person? or do you stay loyal because of your faith ? and who is responsible if your children continued to be abused and maybe get killed because of the continued abuse inflicted upon them.? Well I would love one of my Catholic priests maybe explain that to me if they get to read this.
@whit2642
@whit2642 4 года назад
STHFGDBY I am that woman. Ten years of alcoholic husband beating me to almost death. Psychologically abusing me to point of , C-PTSD and he has extreme porn addiction also. No sex for me in four years. Him, who knows. I can’t stand him. But here I am bc I promised God I would make sure I myself was 💯 in good standing with Him through my faith and the church before I leave my husband bc we are all sinners and if I can forgive this man and God heal my heart to love him again I can do anything else with and through God in this life! And imagine the happiness and joy my. Husband will have in his soul and therefore both of my children!
@winebarimunsi4732
@winebarimunsi4732 4 года назад
@@whit2642 so sorry to hear that you have gone through all this at the hands of your husband..I truly hurts that somebody you fell in love with could do such terrible stuff to you..I am at a loss for answers but all I can say is may be that is your cross to carry but you can live away from him but keep praying for him to change...you may not stop loving him or divorce him but could go live else where and pray for him to change...any body who abuses a woman is an animal not worthy to forgive...I don't even know if I am writing any thing sensible but that's what has become of so many American and European families...so bad.please receive my prayer for you to strengthen you to keep praying and to find mercy in forgiving your husband..
@cliffbarber1642
@cliffbarber1642 4 года назад
@Whit - I too am sorry to hear that this happened to you. I do believe that when two people love God and love one another that it is a God-ordained marriage. However, unfortunately each individual in the marriage and the couple itself are in a battle with the Evil One - at all times! One or both can succumb to him in semi-permanent ways. In your case, I do believe the Evil One infiltrated your husband’s heart in a way that caused great damage. You were correct to get yourself away from him. However, our Christian belief is that anyone - even the worst sinners among us - can be converted (or maybe in the case of your husband, reconverted). This conversion/reconversion could take place relatively soon (in years), just before death (recall the thief on the cross) or perhaps never. I’m not sure what the official thinking is, but using Bishop Sheen’s thinking it might be the right thing to separate yourself from your husband, but never divorce him (on the grounds that he could experience a conversion). You might say well then that denies me of my happiness, but if you agree with what Bishop Sheen said which is that marriage is at first mostly emotional love, but is ultimately an example of sacrificial love in the way that Jesus loves us then it means some of us may need to endure periods of loveless marriages and separation (in the case of abuse). In the end, I’m so happy that you decided to move yourself ever closer to God, the only place for complete protection, peace and joy! You are a great woman!
@cindylawrence1515
@cindylawrence1515 3 года назад
Two major questions which arise here are, first,have you brought these terrible conditions to your local priest or appropriate person in the church? And, what did they do about these conditions? Yes it absolutely IS your responsibility to make these conditions known and it IS the responsibility of the appropriate levels of church fathers to take immediate proper action in any situation like this. Yes, from what you say, your husband needs serious guidance. But it may ALSO be the case your actions may need guidance. In an y case in a good Catholic life the Church MUST be directly involved...
@creedy8612
@creedy8612 3 года назад
A legal separation for the safety of your children and yourself is permissible by the church. Domestic violence is never ok .
@RemiDem496
@RemiDem496 2 года назад
Hello, That's right, love should be a mutual elevation to the lord, for the glory of the almighty and directed toward family or should not be it is disastrous for souls, anyway the only person to love in this life is god himself and if he decides to give you a wife you have to love her too in the name of the love of god. Sincerly
@timsullivan1424
@timsullivan1424 3 года назад
Yes. My marriage ended after 33 yrs wife on me
@francikeen
@francikeen Год назад
Catholic church should *also oppose anti-social behaviors that provoke divorces,* such as drunkenness, drug abuse, domestic abuse, neglect, gambling, pornography, adultery and criminality.
@michelespinosa7396
@michelespinosa7396 2 месяца назад
It does….
@francikeen
@francikeen 2 месяца назад
@@michelespinosa7396 LOL! How many Novus Ordo homilies have even mentioned the 10 Commandments in the last 40 years? Zero! And I live in a conservative Catholic city.
@francikeen
@francikeen 2 месяца назад
@@michelespinosa7396 In 1938, the Pope wrote an encyclical griping about women's clothing (which as NOT a problem in 1938). Yet that same Pope silently blessed and caressed habitual male drunkenness, domestic abuse, gambling and adultery... which were serious problems in 1938. In short, NO, the Catholic Church does NOT oppose the common male vices that cause divorce. Divorce increases fornication. And fornication is the cause of 85% of abortions.
@michelespinosa7396
@michelespinosa7396 2 месяца назад
@@francikeen there have been many popes and clergy that have done horrible things.. worse than what you have mentioned. That doesn’t mean that what they have done is condoned by the church. Church teachings are very clear regarding the sinfulness of the abuses committed by those charged with administering and leading the church. The church does not equal the pope and/ or others. It’s not the pope’s church. If you want to understand what the church teaches, read the catechism of the Catholic Church. You can’t kill the message because its messengers are sinful. I used to equate the two as one and the same as you are doing now. You live and learn…. Novus Ordo, has nothing to do with anything… I have listened to plenty Of homilies where the priest has talked about the 10 commandments. That is neither here nor there… The pope’s encyclical, though I haven’t read it, sounds like he was addressing modesty… interesting how you state that modesty wasn’t a problem in 1938. If I remember correctly, that’s been a problem throughout human history. And since when are the vices you mention only attributed to males? As if females don’t also engage in such vices? Really??? And we are all called to love the sinner and hate the sin. It doesn’t mean we condone the sin. By your logic, one might even despise Christ himself, like the Pharisees… Your anger seems miss directed….
@UniversidadKerygma
@UniversidadKerygma 5 лет назад
1. Church and the inner famioy circle fail MISERABLY in preparing their children for marriage. 2. God's plan is unmistakable: God wants one marriage. 3. But...what happen if the people you put on earth to show you all this wonders fail MISERABLY? The respond of many is: NO EUCHARIST EVER. STRAIGHT TO PURGATORY. The respond should be: Let God be the judge and let the church make a road to repair your sins and serve God in the way he will show you. That road must be open with deligence and love, tenderness and mercy showing everyone the right path, the right way. Sacraments DO NOT SAVE if are based on external elements. They save only when use the right way for the right reasons.
@UniversidadKerygma
@UniversidadKerygma 6 лет назад
Great wisdom...but very poor listeners and commentators here. This was 1943 and by this speech it became even clearer to me (I already was clear to me) that the decadence that Catholic education had in america in the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s as well as the inability to adapt to modern communication concepts ARE THE MAJOR cause of today’s crisis of CATHOLIC FAMILY VALUES. Rampant divorce in todays society is the direct cause of lack of TRUE EDUCATORS that could have influent the minds of the past 3 generations. Now we have to deal with it. Some of you might say: DIVORCE ONCE AND YOU ARE CONDEMN TO LIVE ALONE, CAST AWAY AND DISAVOWED FROM ANY FORM OF being integral part of the church. Oh yes, you can become a second class catholic anytime...NO COMUNION, NO CONFESSION...are you guys out of your mind? Is that even compatible with the God of Love we praise and love? The key is in the minute 7:55 of this video. NO PRIEST SAID THIS OR MAKE COUPLES UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS IN ANY PARISH and if a priest did: Im pretty sure that couple is still married today. “Marriage is not about emotions, is about the will”
@howardoller443
@howardoller443 2 года назад
Your post seems full of and driven by subjective feeling rather objective truth.
@e.a.p3174
@e.a.p3174 4 года назад
The Philippines is the only country where divorce is illegal. Are all Filipinos happily married? Absolutely not, I would say by the age 45 half of all couples are split up and live in "sin" with a new partner. So what is the church's answer in the Philippines? " "annulment". Which means they pretend that the marriage was never valid in the first place. The elites in the Philippines use this process all the time to get out of marriage, the poor people can't do it because it cost a years salary of a middle income family. Divorces are not a good thing, but when your partner cheats on you, physically and mentally abuses you, it would be stupid to stay in a relationship. At least with divorce there is a clean break in the legal system, and people can go on with their lives. I know lots of divorced people who got remarried and have a happy life. Now Fulton Sheen lived in a time, where lots of women were beaten by their husbands, and the priests told them just to put up with it.
@jamesstover295
@jamesstover295 4 года назад
The bible justifies separation., if you cant live together. God is not concerned with mans emotion but the will
@e.a.p3174
@e.a.p3174 4 года назад
@@jamesstover295 in the Old Testament divorce was permitted. Of course God is concerned about people's emotion, where do you get that idea from? Where are not robots, men and women have emotions such as joy, and sadness, love and hate. It seems lot of Catholic priests also have lusts. Of course marriage is the ideal, and it is the best for families with kids. However the marriage covenant is a contract between man and wife made with an oath before God. When one party breaks his or her responsibilities, the contract is voided. Adultery , mental and physical abuse, abandonment are valid reasons for the voidance of the contract. In 1939 Hitler and Stalin made a non aggression pact, in 1941 Hitler crossed the borders, were the Soviets still bound to the contract? Obviously not. Catholics divorce at about the same rate as all the other groups despite the official position of the church. It's obvious that most Catholic realize that sometimes there are no other alternatives.
@francikeen
@francikeen Год назад
@@e.a.p3174 We are living in the New Testament/Covenant which replaced the Old Testament/Covenant.
@e.a.p3174
@e.a.p3174 Год назад
@@francikeen what is your point?
@pitcherrendon4197
@pitcherrendon4197 5 лет назад
Moses, the Apostle Paul, or any of the disciples for example, would not for one nanosecond, tolerate a single Levite priest/disciple that sexually abused children and/or indulged in sexual immorality. They weren't "transferred" to another place!!! The pope as Holy Father; are you serious??? Only GOD is the Holy Father!!! Only GOD is Holy!!! Are you kidding; "Holy Father"? The "pope" is merely a man that is mortal; most previous "popes" are now dead and rotting in a tomb in Rome, Italy!!! (In fact if you check out the Bible, it clearly states that no one [other than your own father; emphasis is mine] should be addressed as "father"; see Matthew 23:9). The Bible clearly states that no one is righteous. Please read the Bible! Read Exodus and Leviticus. in the Hebrew Scriptures, GOD established only ONE priesthood; to qualify for the priesthood, men had to be Jews of the Tribe of Levi!!!. With the exception of the "Royal Priesthood" mentioned in the New Testament of the Bible, GOD had not changed the Levitical system (After the LORD died on the cross for our sins and resurrected, there is no longer a need for the Levitical system, because Jesus became the New Testament, High Priest, veil, the ultimate sacrifice, etc . Roman Catholics, please read the Bible and check it out for yourselves. The only source of Truth we sinners have, is the Word of GOD; not the traditions of men and all the stuff the Roman Catholic "church" invented. The Roman Catholic "priesthood is the invention of men. According to GOD's mandate given through Moses in the Hebrew scriptures, a man could NOT be Italian, German, Polish, or Argentinian to be a priest of GOD!!! Por favor Catolicos, lean el libro de Leviticus en la Santa Biblia. Verán que DIOS solo estableció curas del tribu de Levy. De acuerda con la Biblia, curas no pueden ser Polaco, Argentino, Aleman, o Italiano. Hombres que no son del tribu de Levy, no pueden ser curas en el tabernáculo de DIOS. La iglesia católica romana es un monstruoso invento de hombres.
@cliffbarber1642
@cliffbarber1642 4 года назад
Pitcher Rendon - The point you make is one often made, but I ask you to re-read in your Bible Matthew 16:17-19 where Jesus says: “And so I tell you, Peter: you are a rock, and on this rock foundation I will build my church, and not even death will ever be able to overcome it. I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of heaven; what you prohibit on earth will be prohibited in heaven, and what you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.”” Peter was given the “keys of the Kingdom of heaven” (Head of Jesus’ Church) and protector of the Truth (“what you prohibit on earth will be prohibited in heaven, and what you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.”). I don’t really see how Jesus could have been any more clear about his intent for Peter to be the first Pope (Head of the Church).
@eliot451reade5
@eliot451reade5 4 года назад
If Fulton Sheen was alive today what do you suppose he'd have to say about the many wives of Donald Trump?
@tonyale749
@tonyale749 3 года назад
But Trump is not Catholic
@eliot451reade5
@eliot451reade5 3 года назад
@@tonyale749 That doesn't matter. The religious always impose their values and their morality on others. It's what they do.
@howardoller443
@howardoller443 2 года назад
@@eliot451reade5 Your comment is outlandishly silly and based purely on subjective emotion rather than objective truth.
@reginabillotti
@reginabillotti Год назад
@@tonyale749 He does have the support of a lot of professed Catholics, though.
@francikeen
@francikeen Год назад
What about the multiple adulteries of JFK and LBJ? Most governmental leaders are immoral. That was also true for the English and French kings.
@michaelmallal9101
@michaelmallal9101 4 года назад
I love being lectured to by the closet gay priesthood.
@RezaChity-G
@RezaChity-G 4 года назад
Leave Bishop Sheen alone! Yes he became a modernist but never a gay. Churchmen must not be gay. The only reason you find churchmen like this today is because none are loyal to the church. So go read a book on the Church before being a troll.
@michelleb1
@michelleb1 Год назад
Total ignorance and stupidity ..why do you put down others beliefs in religion???... judgements will be made by God. STOP...BISHOP speaks the truth.
@user-xd4rs6vr4n
@user-xd4rs6vr4n 5 лет назад
Unmarried man sworn to celibacy dressed like a woman giving advice on divorce
@johnfountain5770
@johnfountain5770 5 лет назад
Who are you dressed like? You must be dressed as a Catholicism basher. Bishop Sheen was well known WORLD WIDE, and he saved millions of souls. His name was WELL KNOWN. Who ever heard of AaAaAsAsAsAs ? How many souls have you saved lately?
@user-xd4rs6vr4n
@user-xd4rs6vr4n 5 лет назад
Romans murdered Jesus, and when that didn't work, they founded the ROMAN church to murder his teachings Matthew 5:33, on [marriage] vows: Again, you have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill your vows to the Lord.’ 34But I tell you not to swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35or by the earth, for it is His footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36Nor should you swear by your head, for you cannot make a single hair white or black. 37Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ Anything more comes from the evil one.
@user-xd4rs6vr4n
@user-xd4rs6vr4n 5 лет назад
​@The Ablution Room That's a fair point. As a non-Catholic, I find the faith of traditional Catholics to be extremely heroic, because you must not only have faith in your beliefs, but have faith in them in the face of a Church hierarchy that seems on the whole to be trying their hardest to make a mockery of them (although I know there are many exceptions and I don't doubt Bishop Sheen was one of them.) I've read reports that imply around half of clergy may be homosexuals for example. I tend to agree with Jesus that a good tree must bear good fruit and a bad tree bad fruit, which I take to mean that correct dogma must generally produce righteous actions just as bad dogma must generally produce evil outcomes, so that systematic evil actions that are worse than the normal fallen condition of man must be taken ipso facto to imply bad doctrine behind them. I pray that God will reform the sins within the Catholic Church, but its political structure seems to be especially designed to make it almost impossible for men to do so. Just my thoughts - maybe the Catholic Church made a corrupt decision when it mandated celibacy for priests and is now reaping the whirlwind for it.
@c.a.g.3130
@c.a.g.3130 5 лет назад
@The Ablution Room Sheen is no different from Vladimir Putin, both enslavers who can look upon America who, in her wealth and freedom, has abandoned the God who brought them there, and now lies in wretchedness, so wretched that even papists and communists condemn them. Never forget that Israel in her corruption was taken away captive by Babylon; nonetheless, after her restoration-and she was restored because she belonged to her husband-God punished Israel's afflicters. Papists and former communists may have valid condemnations of backslidden Americans, but a pig in his mud is a pig in his natural state, where a lamb that falls in the mud is only a dirty lamb and not pig simply because it looks like one. The Good Shepherd knows His sheep and His sheep know His voice.
@harrietbrown4497
@harrietbrown4497 5 лет назад
and because he hear confessions he knows the problem best
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