Venom VS Crona (Marvel VS Soul Eater) | DEATH BATTLE! 

DOOOOOOOOOM!

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Is this a motherfuking jojo reference?!?

Ah yes a Phineas and Ferb reference haha

Do you read the blog too?

When DB pair up fights they don't look at that, they go by characters who are similar. It's not about the fights being fair. For example, Crona has her black goop blood Venom has black goop symbiote. Cool that sounds like an awesome fight, let's get to researching. I'm really surprised people haven't noticed this pattern yet >_>

@@EzekiesAcheron well I mean it’s not going to be an awesome fight if you know who’s going to win. They literally put Venom against someone who’s main power is his weakness.

@@mineyminecraftf5019 To be fair I didn't know much about Venom's weakness to high pitched sound, so I had no idea which way it would turn out, I was just rootin' for Crona.

Lol just because A possesses B's weakness doesn't mean the fight is unfair or uninteresting. The entire point of these fights is how characters' abilities act and counteract one another. By that logic Batman VS CA Superman is an unfair fight in favor of Batman because he has access to kryptonite.

@@aulusagerius8540 No Batman vs Superman was interesting because those two been had a rivalry between each other. There was build up. This one wasn’t interesting because there was NO way for venom to even attempt at winning this. And by the point of these fights is not how one person counters another. It’s to see who would win in a fight. Hard countering and fighting are two different things.

Seeing all these comments, really makes me think that these two would get along.

Mommy issues

Venom: I wish I knew my mom

@@lakshaykochhar6799it depends if you wanna use Crona from the anime(who stayed a good guy) or Crona from the manga(the one who went back to being evil). Anime Crona would be way more chill with Venom. Manga Crona on the other hand… not so much.

​@@michaelgarcia5680Venom to, in comics some he anti-hero, but the 2007 Spider Man 3 one is like he had vengeance on Peter so he literally a antagonist in this while the 2018 Venom, Eddie just lost his job and his wife mentally and got attached to a symbiote become a lethal protector

Venom:(Facepalms)...Oh my God!

venom/eddie is bi

@@jadenpark7943 I don't think that's true first off Eddie is definitely straight he was engaged to be married to a woman well the Symbiote is genderless and asexual but portrayed as male.

@@adambump5297 You do realise someone could be bi and date someone of the opposite sex? That's literally the point of bisexual you dummy. The Symbiote adopts the gender expression of the person it is attached to, they don't have human genders, and reproduce asexually.

@@guinevereemilysummers9945 is there any proof he's bi tho?

*Anakin

Nemesis Prime *Nemo

*bakugou

They should've said, "You are nothing compared to my nightmares!"

Did you know that line is why she's not allowed to live in Gresham, Oregon any longer? "Hate is not a Gresham value."

Simbiote X would like to have a word with you

-Pink haired Psychopaths

did you know heroes wins 99% of all the battles in this channel when they fight against villain, mercs or anti-heroes even in fights they shouldn't win? only time a villain manage to beat a hero was because: A) It was from DC and. B) It was doomsday edit: 98% then for the people below i forgot about gray vs esdeath.

@@gillettematch3188 esdeath killed grey in their death battle just this season.

@@gillettematch3188 Gray vs Esdeath would like to have a word with you.

Ace: pink-haired character, Hein tell me about that.

What isn’t Crona a boy

@@mydeadlyadventuredescanorj9756 cronas gender was never confirmed i think

@@why7450 the second greatest anime mystery

@@why7450 Crona was deliberately designed to be genderless. In the original Japanese version, they referred to Crona without using any pronouns at all! However, when the manga was translated into English (and subsequently adapted into an anime), they/them pronouns weren't particularly well-known at the time. They didn't want to use it/its pronouns because they felt it might sound too disrespectful, so they settled with he/him pronouns. Also, when they decided on he/him, they didn't actually intend for it to signify Crona as male or masculine, but rather, it was intended to reference mankind/humankind in general. In the same way that sometimes "man" or "men" stands for all of humankind, regardless of sex or gender. However, much much later, Crona's pronouns in the manga's official English translation got switched to they/them- further cementing the creator's intent for Crona to be non-binary.

We see him be serious against Asura but even then he doesn't change his look

I would like this but the amount of likes is a multiple of 5 and it would infuriate me to change that

@@flyingcow8171 well I just liked it so you can like it too and it wll be 90 which is a multiple of 5 again.

@@chukyuniqul lets gooo

He even changed his voice to be goofier to be more appealing. His true voice occasionally slips when he's extremely pissed off (a feat that is surprisingly hard to do) and said voice combined with his old look is pretty much a classic grim reaper.

*dude you are a genius*

The sun would win

The moon from Majora's Mask

Sun stomps 9/10

@@orioli14 yep😂

Wow!!! I wOuld't HaVe NotIcE thHHatT

Lol😂😂😂😂😂

This also has multiple personalities!

@@wicked.a950 The first one did too.

they both also have pink hair

Knowing the two characters, I just knew it was going to come down to Venom having no real counter to scream resonance, any character with any type of vulnerability to sound is doomed against Crona, even characters without vulnerabilities take stupid amounts of damage from it

Venom has better feats they just didn't address them

@@DoomsdayR3sistance Are you kidding me or you don't truly know venom at all

Actually know venom gains resistance trough time

And also venom is also smarter and strategic as a predator it not only would gain invulnerability to crona's attacks because of adapting to them

That’s… not how grammar works but honestly it gets a pass due to just how fitting it is for Corona lmao.

@@cantmakeacreativename2072 corona?

​@@cantmakeacreativename2072-🤓

her depression is so comical 😂 then being slapped around

I know! They’re my favorite character in the entire Soul Eater series. However, especially in the manga, they’re the most terrifying character in the whole Soul Eater series to me lol.

@Vee Plushie i just now remembered that! His voice even changed to his original voice when he tried to fight the kishin after he awakened

Im pretty sure it was just the kids because death had an entire team of weapons and meisters

@@nothyper-beam6436 that might also be true

@@nothyper-beam6436 it's been a few years since i last watched soul eater

Ah a man of culture I see!

Randy Rogers a what

Ike Simerson A kishin egg is a soul in danger of becoming a Kishin, which is demon that spreads madness. A soul becomes a kishin egg when they become corrupted with evil. Venom, given his history of killing, would definitely be a Kishin egg.

I liked that little detail to

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Randy roger venom is a black egg and Eddie is kishin

That I say other way around like Carnage:Symbiote I Hate you then Crona:I Hate you

Did they state it was a fair fight? no. idk how long youve been watching death battle but they don't pit characters against each other in fairness but only if they have something similar like these two being two beings sharing one body. dumbass

@@Hugo-MTX96 Yeah, I agree with you, let's give goku a kryptonite form and red sun powers to fight superman. I wonder who will win :D

​@@Hugo-MTX96 The fight won't be as fun if you know who's going to win, now wouldn't it?

@@Hugo-MTX96 I agree too, lets put venom vs a speaker!

@@hyperraidsaerofrights5649 superman has Villains who use kryptonite (metallo and lex luthor) and he still manage to kick their ass

Michael Demiurgos45 these two deserve rematches of each episode

@@kieranhornett816 why

@@eliasmagus5086 because they are scary AF

@@GlaZim or his toxic

@@eliasmagus5086 or his toxic

Also if you look around on RU-vid you'll find a lot of soul eater The nightmare before Christmas(this isHalloween) AMVs.

@@redsteel1151 Cool.

Was thinking about This is Halloween earlier today, what a coincidink

@@redsteel1151 Actually the top soul eater version has more views than the nightmare before christmas video.

Dude??????

@@moonworld5517is he wrong?

@@michaelgarcia5680I mean Putin’s gotten it wrong repeatedly and it’s backfiring on him left and right lol

Lol

How often do you think anyone says that

Crona: "I hate you..." Carnage: *_*Proud thumbs-up from the fires of Hell.*_*

In the Death Battle cast when they said that this battle was alot like Carnage vs Lucy they weren't-a kiddin'. Even though I really believe Carnage could/would have won that fight.

@@zillymario64 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RRDjmWckpwk.html they completely screwed Carnage on that Death Battle. Like how they screwed Thor in Thor vs Wonderwoman. Or Wonderwoman in Rogue vs Wonderwoman

@@zillymario64 I agree. I think Venom should have had this one, as well.

Anakin;Well Kenobi, I don't knobie.

@@user-yv3ke7mg2l anakin:damn i never should have been a KNOOBIE(NOOB).

Damn. I really want to like your comment but I wouldn't dare ruin such a perfect number.

Finn: uh... REEEEEEYYYYYYYYYY

Awe what happened

I wonder if that's a vague reference to how Soul Eater is published by Square Enix, who made Kingdom Hearts, which has a "Nightmare Before Christmas" world.

5:40 Morbius

He has two brains, I don’t think I can deal with that right now

🤣 🧠

More like the speaker is attached to them and bullies them into fighting.

I love you for that description

haha

Love that reference.

Crona the living Anti-life equation. Darkseid approves

Honestly…it freaking makes sense but idk why?

​@@xanderscookingschool1497Same, my favorite scene in 2018 movie Venom were he first he fully transforms

Lmao crona would still win mid dif

@@justarandomguywithamask7o7 nope if u are talking about movie or this one then yah but comics....nope

@@multiversalchad5372 I'm actually referring to mcu venom since idk about the comics feat

@@justarandomguywithamask7o7 oh ok...

venom is literally the god of symbiotes now

Stupid Match up. Expect nothing else

But there's so many similarities that makes this matchup reasonable. They both have black symbiotic goo partners to fight with. She wasn't chosen coz she has sound. You know what that sounds like, imagine if Crona had a weakness to webs. Would you say, "oh an unfair matchup" and literally ignore everything else about it, like c'mon buddy.

@@unruly_ronin I know they are matched because of similarities, but she has a clear edge with the sonic attacks which has been one of venoms 2 greatest weaknesses. So while at a glance yes similar, but power wise one has a definite advantage.

@@genegarret2244 guys it's they

@@sirlarius3605 is a he?

Yeah, he used to be much more terrifying

Goofball or serious. Everyone gonna get that *SHINIGAMI CHOP*

@@Hashbrown1682 Special Attack! COFFEE TABLE FLIIIIIIP!!!!

Are you an alternate universe Dana White?

@@H3llr4z0r Following LOTR logic. He has to die to come back as Dana The White.

one carries a symboite that's black, while the other one's blood *IS* black

but he has multiple times one of them being doomsday

@@wallsterrence I know. But that was the first comparison that I thought of

RIGHT, like what was the point of this one?

I agree. It's been decidedly canon for years that the symbiotes' greatest weakness is sound. Crona's primarily ability is a sonic blast that can damage living metal. Definitely one of the most unbalanced Death Battles.

Yeah, because the only way you can actually beat Crona is when it comes to his soul so people like Ghost Rider and Spawn could beat him, so why not have one of those two face Crona??

@@baldabouyee9557 venom in the comics fought ghosts , also to be fair if they are using classic venom. Hes comparable to classic spider man whos able to dodge laser and light. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/498285033107357706/764520139218878474/2238384-feat31speednm8.jpg cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/498285033107357706/764520218177175612/4861505-7007598035-397207.jpeg

@@xboxfanboy59 I see I see, but even then he just can't beat Crona, and don't worry I'm not a fan of the character I do like the anime but I was always more of a Marvel person anyways. I just don't know too much about venom, more so about Deadpool, Batman, and Spawn of all peeps. But even then, Venom literally can't beat the kid, he would still attacks from a supernatural sythe, even point blank bullets and stuff, Venom literally has no way of defeating Crona and that's why I don't think he's a good enough match. and it's not just him but pretty much a majority of physical characters who can't really tamper with souls. The only characters I know who can pretty much defeat him is soul stealers and such. Physical attacks will do nothing to Crona because of the black blood he has which is essentially that Ragnarok character coming from his back.

Tbh I prefer to call her kaede it just sounds cooler

Deadpool: And I hate you all

Actually Crona wouldn't know how to deal with that hate.

Carnage and Crona: I hate you Carnage and Venom dies The winners are Lucy and Crona

@XTRA V1CI0US stop

Apparently he changed that out for electricity..? I read it on one of these comments. So don't ask me if that's real or false.

@@user-yv3ke7mg2l Check my post

@@CommanderSal Well, all I could really say is, don't feel bad about being salty. I cried tears of salt and blood when Sonic lost.

@@user-yv3ke7mg2l That sounds like what Carnage did. Trading sound and Fire attack weaknesses.

Should have used the meat gardener venom to catch up on the op-ness of anime characters

Ryuko is another character that uses something similar to a symbiote

Natsu vs Ace remastered, change my mind

Like the Mario vs Sonic one

@Roman Francis Sabo would win

This was completely bias. They used a character who specifically uses sound base attacks. Against a character who's weakness is sound and fire. That's just bias.

I would've pegged Venom more as: 🎵"We are the ones hiding under your stairs, fingers like snakes and spiders in our hair"🎵

Dude now that great and horrifying at the same time We are two beings that live in the darkness we are the one’s that feeds on your flesh we are VENOM

Best line in the video

There actually is a pretty fantastic AMV to soul eater using that this is halloween song. I kinda guess them throwing in that line is maybe a reference to that AMV.

“I am the one Hiding under Your stairs Fingers like snakes and spiders in my hair”

Carnage lost to a pink haired anime girl too.

@Dame Dolla Clutch Range no it was Lucy(Elfin Lied)

@Dame Dolla Clutch Range but ramona fought amy rose from sonic. Season 3 btw

@Dame Dolla Clutch Range um.. gonna have to disagree with you there...

@Dame Dolla Clutch Range it’s actually a video game, they only wanted to adapt it to an anime with a different story

Venom would win then no chance

In absolute carnge venom gets stronger but the thing that kill the Celestial and knull is the enigme force not venom

Temporary amps

@@dreadmetal6558 Eddie Brock solo beats a super powered Carnage who also absorbed Venom and beat VenomHulk.

@@PKSkyler king in black the thing that wins is not venom

Stolen comment from me

@huttio srreu Oh

link plz?

Omg yes

@@keankolodziejski1605 15:25

I noticed that. It was my favorite part.

And if you listen carefully, you can actually hear the tune at that point!

Asking the real questions.

Majora's Mask Moon. It's a full moon and obliterates all of Termina when it falls. The Soul Eater Moon is a crescent moon and doesn't have the full mass of a full moon so there is a chance that if it fell there could be survivors.

OMFG YES, I WANT A DEATH BATTLE BETWEEN THE TERRIFYING MOONS SO BAD NOW LMAO

@@DracoMagnius our moon is supposedly hollow and this one has teeth. they should still be comparable

@@Thecor13 But Crona opened the Moons mouth and it stands to reason it's also hollow. Plus consider that inside the Majora Moon there's a grassy hill with a tree on it. When Link gets swallowed by the moon he ends up on that grassy hill so maybe the Majora Moon isn't hollow.

As he leaves, Eddie Brock overheard a strange prayer saying “Please kill Soul so I can have Maka all to myself!” To which Venom retorts to Eddie “didn’t you say something similar but you wanted Peter Parker dead?” Eddie sighs. “Definitely something wrong with that kid”

I would love for DB to have silly alt endings like HISHE does

@@thelatterdayarbiter Now that I think about it, Venom and Crona might be able to relate to each other on some level.

God that be a funny way to troll people.

@@nehas9417 They did that with Shao Kahn vs M Bison.

The King In Black is basically a whole new symbiote. Bedlam vs Crona likely wouldn't go much differently, and giving Brock the powers of Captain Universe is overkill.

​@@zacharybosley1935bedlam vs Corona would go way differently, Bedlam isn't weak to sound and can fight people like Dr. Doom head on. It would be a one sided stomp

They didn't take his new run

Mr. Robot I havent seen you since Google+ was shut down

Yep the manga bois

Well before the battle i knew venom would probably die

meat gardener venom is universal at minimum so Crona gets completely fucked, but DB conveniently left it out so eh

to be fair, literally standing feet from a ringing church bell and "the sounds of church bells" are not the same thing.

@@razorsfury6519 exactly!

@@razorsfury6519 Accuracy definitely makes the joke better >_>

venom is much more powerful then thay

@@razorsfury6519 the point is, man with sound ability’s vs man with weakness to sound

Ah Soul eater. The Sun is smiling, the snakes are witches and the the people are guns. Truly a place to live

Hello there

(QuinmcGaming) General Kenobi you are a bold one

@@thinkfighttalk2403 this is the best description of Soul Eater

And some average Joe might want to kill you with the soul Purpose of Devouring your immortal soul

Hmm, from there though, a fair fight can be made, ultimate carnom vs lucy and/or crona

I want Crona to kill Lucy.

@@godzillavkk Nope; Lucy actually stomps Crona. Vectors are invisible and way faster, and Crona's Black Blood can't tolerate anywhere near the temperatures that nuclear explosions give off. Not to mention Crona's backstory is also incredibly similar to Lucy's (i.e. becoming a serial murderer because of a traumatic childhood), so no idea why you're favoring one over the other. Biased much?

@@mrreyes5004 Because one is written well, the other is poorly written.

@@mrreyes5004 I saw elfen leid.... Lucy is cool but she would die. Crona consumed the moon

Bruh

Lol yo I was wondering where that quote was from

@Malum And a certified 'ween classic

Which one again?

Here is your winner CRONA

The moment I heard him recite the lyrics I flipped out

Lmaoo

All it takes is just one advantage to take the whole show doesn't it ?

I think Ghost Rider vs Crona would've been a closer match. Like venom, ghost rider shares two minds, Zarathos and Johnny Blaze. And both Crona and Ghost Rider are demon-orientated.

@@j.m9047 that would be better

@Nealen the Nerd I mean in all fairness what can Venom do to hurt Crona?

Crona: _ok._

@@veryhot2382 Knock it off, you pointless spammer.

Venom: "Wow, okay dude nevermind. Kids these days i swear, so rude."

Same. For some reason I completely forgot about the scream thing until midway through the video and was like "Well, he/she is faster, has more power outburst and a direct counter, gg"

"Hey let's make venom fight a *speaker* who can move faster than him"

I understand WHY they chose this pair with the whole black-monster-possession thing but yeah no this match up was TERRIBLE

Tbh I just forgot the Manga for soul eater existed. If it were locked to the anime I legitimately think venom would have won cuz as far as the anime goes chronas kinda weak.

@@astridstarr2787 if it were locked to the anime I agree. Venom would be thrown off by the shriek attacks but overall Venom is just a whole different level to Anime Chrona. They get massive power upgrades through the Manga series though.

Come on man, we want to see her fight someone. Not being tortured.

Knull stomps harder than Venom

@Nero Metal She?

@@csndbdbdhdb Crona's gender is ambiguous. He/she/they, the pronounce don't matter

Ha, fools, I have blue blood, get on my level

@@UltraAnimaniac101 Crona is female but identifies as male because of Ragnarok.

@@Cadaverous0711 in the manga they go be gender netrual terms

This to me was the icing on the cake. I have had it with death battle and their stupid "fair" fights. Venom little had no chance against this emo kid cause of sound. Even more so to the face he was basically outmatched by the kid..again how is that fair? Its not

Dante Redgrave cause people requested it. They asked for this. Not DB.

Indeed the last time it was carnage vs lucy he said the same thing... before he went kaboom

@@Cell287 and? They little could have gotten another venom but they chose this one who still isn't the strongest and still weak to sound. The emo kid? Oooh give him the best weapon of the final arc and his super black blood and definitely make him OP. Nope that was it for me

did you know heroes wins 99% of all the battles in this channel when they fight against villain, mercs or anti-heroes even in fights they shouldn't win? only time a villain manage to beat a hero was because: A) It was from DC and. B) It was doomsday

Character loses: Fan base gives reasons on how they didn’t do nearly enough research and if they did the other character would win. People happy who won: your just a bunch of sore losers

@@ohyeahyeahohyeahyeah4734 that goes for both sides

Sometimes its justified

They even managed to depress BlackStar so they're probably the most OP weapon in their world.

Yes I read it

Yo Crona has they/them pronouns

@@hectorcott3204 i still sag crona is a femal

@@vampbombergary8689 well theyre not, but if u see them that way then fine ig. Whatever gets u goin

Fr you actually are better than most of the mad venom fans

Seriously, I don't think Venom wanted to get in Crona's head, even if he could.

@@dungeonguy88 Have you been in Wade's head? I think not, because if you had, you'd have known its just about as equally disturbing.

@@FLSNevermore Here's the thing though, the Symbiote was deeply repulsed by the experience with Wade Wilson. It wouldn't be anymore on-board with Crona, I don't think.

I'm not saying they would, it's just I think Wade and Crona are on equal standing if not Crona more.

This is even worse than that. This is Charizard vs Bulbasaur, lol.

More like Charmander vs Geodude

Sorry that most battles arent so super close that theyre almost even in every category, but thats just how match ups work, cause almost 80% of any match up will go that way, inevitably one character will always have greater feats than the other, or will have hard counters against the other They don't immediately know who's going to win before they research, at first glance it's easy to assume Venom would win Even with the screech, you could still make the argument that Venom developed a tolerance for that kind of thing Plus, This was actually a popular match up for crona and they knew absolutely nothing about SoulEater before this

Marius L. Manarang but this was way too one sided

@@ICTON123 Yk, Even with quite surface level of knowladge about her it would be quite obvious she would hard counter him.

Venom didn’t beat Knull lol. He firsthad to get revived by the Enigma Force(basically, Knull’s arch enemy and equal) and get possessed by it to become a God of Light, get Mjolnir and SilverSurfer’s board, then merge them into a battleaxe, then use it and the Enigma Force to completely destroy all trace of him. He completely loses access to this power afterwards. He basically got the most temporary of amps in the history of temporary amps. Giving him this is the equivalent of giving Captain America, Ironman, Reech Richards, and Black Panther the full infinity gauntlet, or Batman all the lantern rings(which they clearly shouldn’t have… at all). Not to mention, the defeat of Knull came WAY after this video’s release. As for Carnage vs Lucy, teeeeechnically the feat leans a bit more to reactionary speed than travel, but that’s pretty small. And teeeechnically you get MUCH higher speeds than the speed they calced for Lucy there(much closer, and possibly faster than the mach 2000 feat here), but you can still technically scale him to Spiderman, so they still match up. But regardless, there’s still a f__ck ton of them there, they’re massive, and an AOE nuke attack’ll likely do em in regardless of speed. But that’s just imo

@@ICTON123 That context is good to know.I also forgot to consider the age of the video, which is why that couldn't have been used as a factor. Those feats do seem to be reactionary, rather than travel speed, which is an important distinction, although I think it's arguable in both cases for Venom and Crona that they were never reacting to things that fast. Spider-Man 2099 probably only aimed his hand in the right place, rather than it being relative. Similar case for Crona going up against that fast guy who clearly wasn't going that fast in any of their fights. I think the main problem either way is Venom being weak to sound, yet somehow faster than sound, meaning he should be able to just avoid the sound all together. It's a strange weakness that shouldn't apply, and from the scaling in the video, might as well not apply. Another thing I just thought up of is Crona's sonic attacks spreading all around the Soul Eater moon somehow being 275 decibels, which doesn't make sense, since the Tsar Bomba, which was 224 decibels, made a shockwave that went around the Earth 3 times from what I recall. So I don't know how they're calculating that, or what they mean by Crona's sound wave spreading. Overall, I think it's just high tier scaling that's unreliable, and inaccurate to how powerful the characters actually are. I can accept Crona winning, but these numbers all seem ridiculous, and out of context.

@@itsyaboidaniel2919 Not really, cause it wouldn't make sense for them to not use this level of speed in their fights(where they were seriously trying to take down/kill their opponent). Otherwise, for BlackStar, Crona would just never be able to hit him cause he'd run circles around him and evade every attack, against an opponent of such unbelievable speeds, similar levels of speed are still *actively* required(basically, you wouldn't get hit by a bullet if it were moving at a snail's pace right? Even if you were blindsided, it's so slow that you'd be easily able to move out of the way regardless). And similarly, Crona wouldn't be able to block BlackStar's attacks for the same reasons. Additionally, BlackStar did the mach 9000 and dodging lightspeed lasers feats(note that BlackStar did not just dodge the lasers, but caught 2 of them mid-fire and threw them back with his bare hands... somehow) Pre-End of series before becoming even stronger. The former feat was without stuff like SoulResonance, the latter feat was even done in his base without using his Uncanny Sword form, which _drastically_ improves his strength and speed, to which Crona fights him at his best with both(before he becomes Kishin Crona iirc). So Crona *absolutely* scales to BlackStar's best. It's comics, that's to be expected, and it sorta supports the notion that it's more on reactionary speed if anything. Even then, Crona's madness wavelength and shrieks from Ragnarok are not normal sounds. They're made from "soul powers" and stuff, can affect souls, can cover the whole moon in moments, and regularly tags beings who are much faster than sound(even if the characters are able to dodge sunlight, like Justin Law). And as shown in the animation, nothing stops Crona from just creating a massive AOE attack of sound in all directions, as well as just holding him in place with MadBlood to then pump him full of sound waves(17:00). It also means that Venom wouldn't be able to get in close to Crona. So they still very much apply here. It's not *just* about far they traveled (vibrations always travel vast distances even if they're weak), what mattered here is that they could be _so_ strong at such a distance. Being able to be at their full destructive volume while traversing such a vast distance is ludicrous(cause that's kinda how force works, it gets weaker the farther they are from the point of origin), so the full force at the epicenter should be incredibly potent by comparison. Exactly like for Venom's sound feat. The gremlins making sounds felt across 10 miles wasn't the impressive part, it was that even after traversing 10 miles, they were still strong enough to shatter glass!

@@ICTON123 If they wanted the most ridiculous levels of speed they could go for, then they'd easily be able to get it. But these characters not doing so regularly implies that's not how fast they'd actually be going, especially for Venom if his weakness is sound, then being faster than sound, making sound easily avoidable. I haven't watched SoulEater, but I'll believe you immediately on the catching lasers thing. The problem then comes in with these characters ever being touched by anything slower once we use scaling after that point. The two main options are that either these characters are simply entirely unreliable in how strong they are, or the lasers themselves aren't light speed, with the writers not knowing how fast light actually is. With the mach 9000 feat, we see that line being drawn on that tracking device of some sort, but then we see the visuals, which are clearly much less impressive. The problem then becomes that if you can't trust visuals, we don't even know how fast those characters are in the first place. I don't doubt at all that Crona's sound attacks could harm, and even kill Venom. I just think that if these characters were of the speeds mentioned in the video, that would negate ever using sound against them. Given that the SoulEater moon is pretty small, and I don't know if it has an atmosphere or not, it seems likely that any sound waves would be easily able to spread across it because it is simply the nearest object. Also, it seems like the feat itself would be covering it in sound waves, but not actually destroying it, so that massively reduces the impressiveness of the feat itself.

@@itsyaboidaniel2919 Literally, nothing implies that these characters *don't* do this level of speed regularly lol. Especially in a fight, where, again, they're trying to seriously take down and kill their opponent. It wouldn't make sense. Not to mention, they're both Comic and Manga characters, so all of their movements are via still pictures, so they very much could have just been going at such speeds the whole time. It also ignores the concepts of "cinematic timing" and "attack potency" That misses the point of the show, which is to analyze characters at their personal best to see who would win a fight. Taking them at their weakest just doesn't make sense when the point is that we wanna see who wins. Also, most fictional series' have stuff like that(inconsistencies, plot-induced stupidity, low ends, etc.). Cause a writer obviously isn't concerned with making a character consistent for a Vs-Debate, they just want to write a story with amazing showings sometimes cause those are fun. Low-ends don't mean that the character's high-ends don't exist, and that's just blatantly ignoring massive parts of the character's history for no reason, as well as ignoring the concept of *FICTION* itself. This isn't a narrative analysis or something, we just wanna have em fight for the sake of it. ...Wut? That doesn't make sense lol, the fact that the writers had to specify that they were light and lasers mean that they do know what light is, and they're obviously basing it off of our own world(cause... well, there isn't anything else they would go off of lol). It would be incredibly disingenuous to assume that it isn't light speed, when, similarly, *nothing suggests that they aren't light speed either.* If they call it light, then there's nothing else to fall back on for that. (for SoulEater in particular, they do establish beforehand that the lasers are actual light. As they had to actually counteract these beams using a character's ability of "light refraction" to prevent them from attacking the ship they were on. Pretty straightforward, if he knows that light can refract and reflect, then he should know that light is hella fast). Visuals don't mean anything mate, looks are just an art style or choice of effort. Regardless of how it looks, you cannot deny that he was very clearly shown moving at those speeds with visual measurements given. The only way he wasn't going at those speeds... is if it were just lying for some reason. If the intention wasn't that he wasn't going at these speeds, it just wouldn't happen to begin with. By that logic, Goku being able to match and surpass Vegeta's Galick Gun in Saiyan saga(which is stated, and proven to be able to destroy a planet), and Vegeta surviving it is bunk because it's just not visually impressive. It's very disingenuous to the feat to simply base it off of visuals alone. (Plus, the calc was based on a time frame given by the Anime anyway, we could just apply the Manga, where there isn't a time frame in the first place) Again, not really. Crona's madness wavelength isn't just normal sounds or something(that much should have been painfully obvious by what it does). Plus, at no point did they ever even say that Venom couldn't dodge it, in fact, they do the opposite in the animation, they just specifically have him being binded first so that he couldn't dodge. And even then, it still gave him a massive disadvantage. They literally state that they included the fact that it was very much smaller than our own moon. But it's still absolutely gigantic, and covering it with such intense soundwaves without weakening is still incredible. That... literally wouldn't do anything for the feat lol, it still means that it completely covered it in the wavelength. The feat was never about destroying the moon lol. It was the fact they were able to cover the whole moon in such intense sound waves that... well just look at the darn thing(18:49), they also had to specifically go back to earth and at a massive distance away to avoid it or else they'd go mad(it was also crushing people with weaker wavelengths, and rocketed people backward like a massive explosion)

the fight was before the carnage comic

@jerrysanchez4040 this was the information mentioned from both analysis' and the after-battle explanation

True, but venom has the advantage in versatility and raw brute strength. If venoms fast enough he could dodge crona's attacks and come out on top

@@mason9003 eh, Crona and Ragnarok did a lot of the moon feet themselves in the manga and DB does sometimes give powerups. Since Crona currently has it in-canon DB might go with the full moon feat too. Venom will have to surprise me in power to break through the magic blood or to overpower in other ways.

True but you're forgetting one thing... Venom can move detach from Eddie and infect another host So going of that logic if crona manages to separate the two venom can just infect crona/ Ragnarok and kill them from the inside out

Mason Glover Ah, but Ragnarok is also like a Symbiote in some ways. Both can create weapons out of their own body, both can act as some sort of armor for their hosts, both have some degree of control over their hosts’ bodies, etc. Ragnorok is basically Corona’s Venom. Plus, Ragnorok and Corona operate under the wavelength of Madness, making it hard to break their minds.

Mason Glover However, your words do hold merit. Venom is lot more powerful, durable, and most likely faster.

It’s been WAY more superior in sub tbh

Better in the show

Oh definitely! I think they'd get along after finding out about their past.

Same

Also neat since that song could be associated with Soul Eater thanks to the super famous "This is Halloween" amv by Hagaren Viper. So in my head, I saw it as Venom being cool and scary and then Crona reacts like.. ooo that's my song!

I assume it was a tribute to a very popular Soul eater amv to this is Halloween. It’s really a great video. Check it out if f you haven’t seen it.

I know right! I marked out for that one.

The original song is from the movie “nightmare before Christmas”

May as well have been putting him against sirenhead...

Even than I'm pretty sure Crona can only be killed by someone using Black Blood. Venom was screwed before the fight started.

@@hihibye2324 Corona can be killed by normal means his mother almost killed him in the anime and manga as well don't know if the black blood was surporesed in the manga but it was in the anime

@@zerotheassassin4046 I mean Medusa pretty much made black Blood for shits a Giggles makes scenes she could. But I'm pretty sure Maka could even make a dent in Crona until she started using the black blood herself. It's been a while since I read Soul eater could be crossing wires i just remembered Crona could get hacked and stabbed to hell but it didnt do anything till Maka used the Blood.

@@hihibye2324 ig she did and I was speaking off based on the anime I need to re read the manga but I do know for certain Stein stopped the resonance between Crona and Ragnarok to where they were unbalanced sorta and he was able to damage them other than that no one else was able to do any damage neither was Maka and even when she was using the black blood at best in the anime all she did was toss him around maybe cut him a few times then he started going through soul rejection again(spike black blood popping out of his body constantly)

Spider-Man Shattered dimensions pc.

Dr Shahela Hossain literally the second they mentioned the sword I was like....well it’ll be fun to watch at least

In all fairness black blood still has the properties and weaknesses of regular blood (if i remember correctly) so if venom wanted he might be able to bond with Ragnarok.

@@williamtemple287 well possibly but then eddy would probably just be murdered plus black blood has special properties like hardening and such I don't think venom would have abandoned his host

@@ssj4holden72 He has abandoned Eddie before for stronger hosts and has shown to be able to manage to fuse with those much more durable than black blood is such as Galactus. So basically the outcome would be determined by whether Venom will touch the blood first or will Ragnarok scream first.

@@williamtemple287 17:52 they said here that black blood would stop that from happening

Go Grif! Or his sister, I really don't care as I liked pretty much the entire cast!

caboose since hes technically stronger.

If freelancers are involved, Blue stomps. If they aren't, I still say Blue edges out a win.

Agreed, Tex

Flowers/Florida? Alpha? Epsilon? Jr.? Tex? Sorry but blue team roster was bigger if every member was allowed..

@Dark 4715 And they live happily ever after

Jayden TheGod venom : ok were is hulk

Crona wins ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4frtl_Mkt5Q.html

@@AceXyrder Ok I saw this battle and that is BS!!!!! he can't get his soul stolen he survived Ghost Riders Death Stare

@@shoutmondx8740 Wait, he got his soul stolen? It looked like he was gone from existence like the thanos snap way lmfao.

I'm the one hiding under your stairs, fingers like snakes and spiders in my hair

I like Carnage's version: It's raining , you're bleeding Carnage is starving! 😈

I thought it was cool beacuse a very popular AMV with soul eater was done with this song. I believe Marlyn Manson sang it. You should check it out.

@@windwalker111089 already saw it.

@@windwalker111089 i know that amv won some awards as well

I'm a bit late but... Crona's final move was making Ragnarok eat both souls... Pretty sure it's imposible to regenerate from soul manipulation abilities. By the way, that implied that Venom had a soul. If every drop of venom could live on its own, I guess venom should either have no soul or thousands of souls. Kinda weird, but I guess they chose the easy solution.

*points at video date*

@@ICTON123 if only they waited until king in blacks ending. Considering venom and symbiotes in general are the central plot.

intelligent person:"I know where it is happen ."

The full power of mad blood probably would've annihilated venom in any situation

@@V2ULTRAKill they used the worst venom sad…

@@Bob.__. yeah, but in the Manga things with Crona get pretty Crazy, it’s blood emits a Wavelength that drives people crazy not fun crazy, literally Crazy and it was used to encase the Soul Eater moon in order to Trap the Kishin. Honestly if they use the best version of one character then they have to use the best of the other character. The reason for this especially with Comics is the fact that comic book authors are always changing and comics go through reboot every 5 years or so. So typically even though one character will become op due to arcs the next writer will usually just restore the status Qo