Now, this video isn't really about finding a winner, or which one is best. More about highlighting the similarities and differences. But I'm interested in hearing, which one you liked the most. So please drop a comment and let me know :)
As someone who has owned both the meteore and the reverberation machine-I prefer the meteore. The reverberation machine is awesome and I’ll probably get another in the future but I sold it because it creates so much extra noise ( n purpose) and I was after as little noise as possible at the time. The meteore only gets noisy in the decay trail with drive circuit at its higher range. Plus the right footswitch on the meteore is really fun
thanx for seeming like someone I'd actually like to play music with and hang...I feel like a different species to a lot of these pedal demo fellas sometimes ....it somehow makes all this research easier and less intimidating, considering the anxiety of dropping a few hundo for a pedal these days..your humility is appreciated
please keep these Versus Videos coming. i enjoyed this video so much, maybe because its about reverbs, but yeah. Im still struggling with the choice between the Meteore and the Reverberation Machine
GDmetallic - Thank you very much, man! I already have several planned. Just need to find the time to make them. I love reverb as well, so will definitely find an excuse to do more reverb based comparisons. But in the near future, it'll probably be more about fuzz and delay. Hope you find that awesome as well :)
I just built my own BTDR 2H (long brick) Chasm Reverb that I added a traditional spring setting to as well as an additional momentary footswitch that works with the OSC toggle so its basically a Hold/Release oscillation Oscillation footswitch. It momentarily turns ON oscillations when the OSC toggle is OFF and OFF when the toggle is ON. But adding the extra traditional spring setting (both of these mods I came up with myself) really made the pedal the PERFECT diy reverb. For the traditional setting I just made it so that theres always a set amount of dry signal and the mix control works as a traditional mix control that's just turning up or down the effected signal. It's perfect for strong but more subtle reverb. It can still get a decent amount of decay and can still self oscillate in the Spring setting. In the stick Chasm setting the mix can go full wet or full dry (it also can in spring mode but only full wet when your on ten with the mix). The Chasm mode has much more effected signal present which sounds great but comes at the cost of initial note attack and volume/fullness. I really do love the stock Chasm setting but I've been using the spring mode I added even more. I plan on posting a video on some forums like DIYstompboxes so other people can get the most put of their Chasm Reverbs rather then having to chose between a traditional or more dramatic belton reverb circuit. I knew I'd like the belton reverb sound but I didn't know I'd like it SOO much more than DSP reverbs I've owned. Ice been building pedals for years now but this was my first reverb. I have subtle reverb on my Marshall DSL100HR that I actually really like cause its tasteful and just adds a bit of character/depth to the sound and I also have a TC ELECTRONIC Hall Of Fame Reverb in my effects loop but it's honestly a horrible sounding reverb lol, so so so unnatural and so lifeless. Compared to other reverbs the TC HOF is so bad it seems like TC was "trolling" us. Anyways point of mentioning it was because my disdain for the TC electronic Hall Of Fame is what made me decide to build my own reverb rather then buy another. I wanted one really good versatile reverb rather than 100 terrible useless reverbs. And the Chasm seriously delivered especially with my mods to make it more versatile. It basically does Hall in Chasm configuration and Spring in my modded configuration. If anyone is looking for a reverb I highly recommend either building a belton style revwrb like the Dead Astronaut Chasm or VFE Springboard.
Météore is soooo good! I don't blame you one second for preferring that one :) And thank you for the kind words about the video. I was a bit afraid that it had become too long and geeky. So it means a lot to me that you enjoyed it :)
I don't know if I've ever giggled at a gear demo before, but "I can't leave that havoc switch alone, it's just there staring at me!" and that guilty look at the camera got a good hearty chuckle.
Another awesome, show. Going through your content whenever I get a chance. Cool stuff. I love my Meteore. I can use it for subtle reverb when playing more blues or classic rock sounds, and also get a darker, long decay and hit the havoc for feedback/oscillations. I like putting it before the another delay and reverb in stereo to get some crazier, sounds. Same with the Kilobyte.
Reverb is my favorite type of effect, so I'll always go for the one with more character. All of these are cool, but the Reverberation Machine degrades the sound in a beautiful way. I like it when the reverb is dying like that.
Happy to hear I'm not alone when it comes to adoring the Reverberation Machine. It can create some truly unique textures. And reverb is definitely also my favorite effect type. I would be lost without it. I don't enjoy playing with a completely dry signal :)
Thanks for explaining the Belton! I always hated reverbs since the beltons came on the market, now I have three... also the Meteore and Reverbereration Machine. My third one comes from the very northern of Germany, the JPTR FX Kaleidoscope. It's very close to the Meteore but more noisy, it also has a wet gain knob and above all a footswitch each for endless and drykill mode, which is very nice for washy ambient and/or noise walls. It's the most versatile of the three, but I like the Meteore most since it takes less space on the board and is less noisy. Greetings from southern Germany! With the accent, I thought you were German, too :-D Good that I was checking your profile before writing my comment in German :-)
For versatility I'd go with the MÉTÉORE but for everyday it would be the Levitation. Good stuff as always. What chords do you commonly use? You seem to make them sound both fragile and strong at the same time (not sure if this is possible, but that's how it sounds).
Thanks, man! Yeah, the Météore is rad and does A LOT! But as you say, Levitation is just a nice classic ambience device. I've used the Levitation in a ton of my demos as my main reverb. Regarding chords, I don't really know. I tend to gravitate towards the key of D-Major and E-Major a lot though. So I use a lot of open-string inversions of chords within those scales. I'm not a fan of the closed and dense sound of power chords and barré chords. I like the open shimmery sound you get from including a lot of open strings :) Hope that helps a bit. Thanks for watching and commenting. Means a lot!
At around the 17 minute mark, you play those crackling notes with the airy reverb. Sounds great. Would you be able to recreate a sound like that with say, just the levitation and a fuzz pedal?
I guess I have more Belton brick reverbs than I thought I did.but from what I read I thought you needed six delay lines to make a Belton brick reverb and I tried making my own with a bunch of delay pedals set with super low milliseconds but it didn't really sound that great I guess I was missing some additional filtering to make it sound more full and real
Great review as always! Just a suggestion: The first part of this demo was really drenched in reverb (the second part is great with the avalanche), so much that you couldn't really appreciate the natural tone of the OD. The positive side of this, is that you kind of get the idea of how it sounds with it, but it would be nice to hear it with a dry signal first. Anyway, keep up the good work you are doing. Your demos are awesome!
ThePedalZone what? Aw damn,my app is running crazy hahahahahahaha I meant it for the thrasy blonde demo. (Seriously, wtf?) Meh, at least I made you scratch your head in confusion.
Thoughts after video: Levitation - shining fairytale with happy end, Meteore - connects day dreams on the surface with dark underground tube reflections bounces to the catastrophe. Rev machine - less explored, but somewhere on the other planet through spacesuit. Meteore is my choice) maximum fun
ThePedalZone Less explored - I mean, its nature is just strange for my understanding) Thanks for this work. Now I completely know which brick is mine) One more thing to ask - how will Meteore sound with acoustic?
+Elgn Arney - The Levitation is great. I've used that as my main reverb in a lot of my demos on this channel :) But as you say, all three are more than great!
A great demo as usual! They all sound great and would be happy with any. Out of the three I would probably go for the meteore as I love the havoc function. The digital reverb I'm really after is the industrial electric rm-1n. Now that pedal to me sounds like the king of BB reverb pedals! Now that would make a great review😉
Thanks, man! Happy you liked the video. I would probably go Météore as well, if I had to pick one from the three. But they're all great and excel at different things. Thanks for watching and commenting. Means a lot to me ❤
I own and love the Industrialectric. It has drive circuits for the pre and post reverb stages, switchable lpf/hpf tone filtering, momentary feedback, a white (ish) noise generator, and tons of mixing controls. You should really check that one out if you haven't already.
To me, personally, the Météore comes out as the most versatile. All three are great, and the Reverberation Machine definitely has some serious mojo, but I'm very, very happy with my Météore. :)
I'm soooo tempted by the Meteore but then I heard some rumors? about high squealing hiss and loss of responsiveness and attack to your original tone... which has me looking more towards The Red Panda Context
Christopher Hash I have one and play lead with the band I play the most with. I play cleaner when the songs are piano driven, and a bluesy, psychedelic Classic rock sound on other stuff. The Meteore doesn't suck my tone that I can tell, and it adds a layer I've come to really love on a lower decay setting. It really depends what you want to do.
Wherever you want them to. Personally I really like Belton Brick reverbs early in the chain though. Before fuzz/overdrive, since they're slightly granular attack and decay just work so well for shoegaze tones, when used before distortion. I have a video on my channel called Early-chain Reverb VS End-of-chain Reverb, which dives more into this concept. You should check it out.
Hey there --I'm on the serious hunt for a reverb, doesn't have too be too too fancy or have 74 modes just good non-intrusive tone,, organic and responsive. I think I'm down to Meteore (from your review) Red Panda Context or the Polara if I get cheap. and the long shot is a Spaceman Orion or other real spring pedal? I wonder if there's a noticeable difference in responsive-ness? with the real spring vs digital? If there is one thing that makes me hate a pedal is any kind of disconnect it causes between me, my guitar and my amp. thanx a million!!! Read more REPLY
+Christopher Hash - Météore is amazing! Definitely kicks the Polaras butt when it comes to organic tone. It's super organic, and just becomes one with your core tone. So you definitely shouldn't feel the dreaded disconnect. I feel super connected to my sound when I play it. Haven't tried the Context, so can't really weigh in on that one. But Météore is definitely up there at the top of the list of my all time favorite reverbs :)
damn- Metoere is SOOOO tempting, that Havoc button is calling for me....I need something versatile and capable of cutting through a mix-- not really a shoe gazer...
+Christopher Hash - Météore will easily cut through any mix. Just flick the switch to bright mode and you'll be cutting through the mix like a lightsaber through space butter. I take it that butter exists in outer space. Aliens owe themselves that luxury :)
Thanks, dude! And don't worry, man. There's no stupid questions. I'm more than happy to answer this :) No, they're not analog. The PT2399 is a digital integrated circuit chip that produces delay. But it is known for its warm and very analog-like tone, that's why so many builders like to use it. And since the Belton Brick is made up of three of these chips, it's also digital. True analog reverbs would be real spring reverb tanks, like you find in amplifiers, old plate reverbs that you could only find in really high-end studios back in the day (they were huge and cost a fortune), and then the natural room reverb you get from standing in specific rooms, like the tiled reflections of a bathroom, the soft ambience of an apartment room and the massive cascading reflections found in huge cathedrals for instance. Hope this helps a bit :) All the best Stefan
@@thepedalzoneI always back to watch your old videos dear Stefan. A brutal analog reverb is the little known "Transroom" by Lastgasp Art Laboratories. In the 90s, DOD developed an analog reverb too. I can't remember its name. Well, be fine dude. I'm your fan. Greetings from Mendoza, Argentina! ✨✨✨
No, the designer of the Belton Brick doesn't know his stuff when it comes to reverb. Reverb is not just a bunch of delays. A minimal Schroeder-Moorer reverb comprises about eight comb filters in parallel, followed by about four all-pass filters, all tuned to specific prime-number delay lengths to avoid periodicity, which is the major flaw with the Belton Brick. It has none of these features, and it's a shame, because papers have been published on this topic since the 1970s. The PT2399 is particularly ill-suited for reverb, as all it does is delay -- and the two are VERY different effects. The Belton Brick is a waste of time and money. Its periodicity renders it a terrible substitute for a minimal functioning reverb. The really sad part is, for about the same cost, the guy could have implemented a decent reverb in a DSP chip. There are plenty of open source and freeware source code examples of fully functional Schroeder-Moorer reverb implementations written in C or C++. With some re-writes and clever changes to the filter topology, the same concepts can be used to write a professional-sounding, stereo reverb which can run on a $2 embedded microcontroller with a $2 audio CODEC. This solution does not suffer from the problem of periodicity. Look for the upcoming release of the Cemer Efx Stadium pedal, which combines overdrive, distortion, tone control, and stereo reverb, all in one pedal.
