VERTICAL Vs. HORIZONTAL Studio Monitors (Can They Be Flipped?) | ADAM Audio 

Wow, excellent info. Great presentation and thanks for taking the time to include graphics. Also, Happy Earth Day!

While i've known this forever, it amazes me how many pro engineers still do not understand this simple concept of monitor setup. This is a Great video that illustrates the issue very well. I own the ADAM S3H's and really love them!! I initially had them mounted a bit high, and had to point them downward to get proper Mid/Tweet alignment while seated at my desk, but I finally reconfigured some things so that they were lower, and could sit level with good alignment.

What about upside down?...tweeter on the bottom with the tweeter at ear level

Okay so the answer is no lol

Thank You for the only video on RU-vid that covers this topic properly. I want to use upmarket Center Speakers, for Overhead effect speakers, in a Dolby Atmos set up and wasn't sure if it would work, Now I do ! Danke Shoen !

Agree with everything he says including that ultimately it comes down to the user. I've used my A7x pair in standing position for 10 years. Recently my right speaker developed rattle and it wasn't loose screws or a blown speaker. When I placed it on its side the noise went away. Now both my monitors are on their side and strangely I like the stereo spread better for my treated space. I also use my setup for production and not mixing so this new setup doesn't affect me there. As long as it doesn't hurt the speaker, I'm happy to keep this new orientation.

Interesting info, especially since the mid-frequency woofer on the a77x is positioned next to the tweeter horizontally, even though it has a high crossover frequency of around 3 khz.... Why is the phase issue relevant for the T7V with 2.8 khz crossover, but not relevant for the a77x with the 3 khz crossover?

Thank you for this, you've answered a critical question.

Very good stuff. Thanks for not dumbing it down.

can i keep my adam T5V horizontal ?

Damn I just bought the T7V's but need to place them horizontal so questioning if they are usable now?

This is SO helpful as I just re-arranged my studio setup with three 32" monitors (half hex arrangement) and I was forced to place the A7X's above the monitors sideways. Vertical arrangement just has them way too high and outside of the 3x32" width is far too wide. The performance is definitely different at distances but

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Hi . Just like you have a budget T8V u should come up with a budget 3way horizontal orientation T8H and T7H u will have a great demand for that too ..Kali Audio for instance have the IN8 Which are pretty great and also the KRKS 10 G4 S WITH A Rotatable waveguide at a very affordable price point . Hope ADAM is Hearing...

Great knowledge 💪🏻thanks @Adamaudio 🙌🏻😊

Hi! I'm not able to use T7V in vertical way because with my current desk the tweeter stays above my head. From what I understood from this video It's nog good to use them horizontally. Can I use them upside down with the tweeter aligned with my ears?

very helpful,thank you!

Thank you for all the very valuable information and you expert knowledge you have offered. You do a great job on presentation as well as making it very clear and easy to understand. At the moment I choose to use the adam audio sp-5 headphones and i cannot say enough how serious these headphones are . Hands down they are the top of the top shelf headphones I ever heard doing extremely intensive comparisons. Delivering clarity at its best , diving way down into the low frequency audio range ,and for hours of non stop listen i am still able to make the very best accurate eq decisions with no ear fatigue at all. and the best part is i don't need to position them to get that sweetspot. dead on every time. Cant wait to get my S2V's. gonna be worth every penny. Thank you Stephan and everybody over at ADAM AUDIO!

This is EXCELLENT.

I have the opposite problem. I own the A77X and I need it vertical. As long as I angle it sligtly down and align ear-to-tweeter for the sweet spot I should be ok right? I read through the comments and someone said they loved the sound. I recently changed some stuff around and they would just work better if they were standing. If anyone reading this has done it, let me know if it worked for you. ✌️

Very Helpful, Thank You!

Guys I wish there would be a vertical edition of the T5V.. And I doubt I'm the only one who would buy them lol... T5H ftw 😉

Excellent information, and presented clearly and concisely. Thanks so much for making this video.

Thank u Mr. Adam, that was informative 👍🏼

Good explanation, about the A77X having the woofers aside the tweeter, I also have asked myself the same question. A possible explanation I can think of is the A77X are indeed mid-field monitors and so they are designed to be further away than smaller A5X or so, and at bigger distances the comb filter effect derived from the drivers not being in the same vertical plane can perhaps be smaller. We have had three monitors in the studio with the same driver structure (woofer aside the tweeter), the A77X , the Focal Twins and the two way PMC Twotwo 6, of which the manufacturer says literally in their web: "...their ability to operate in either the vertical or horizontal orientations without compromising stereo imaging or tonal accuracy." By the way, I have sometimes worked with both the A77Xs and Focal Twins put vertically on their side and have been really happy with their sound, at least in the sweet spot.

Anyone flip their T series speakers upside down, to make room for your screens, to keep the tweeters at ear level?

So what’s the differences in a speaker with midrange tweeters and the monitors that have tweeters on top 🔝 and not in midrange like the Adam audio 7 series and the Adam audio midrange speakers

Are you saying that the speakers with mid range has a wider range so when listening 👂 it’s easier to stay in range of the speakers sweet spot than to have a speaker that has top and bottom drivers on the monitors am I right ? 🤓

Adam s3h are my dream pair . And such a great video . Thanks ❣️🙏

Are your monitors vertical or horizontal? If you have questions about this in-depth video, leave them below and we'll be sure to respond 👊

Knowledgeable and brief talk Thanks sir

nope lol not the ax7s well you can but your frequency will change and stereo separation on off axis to tweeter you would have to change the dsp and move the tweeter manually

Bitte macht ein Video wo gut erklärt wird wie man die S3H's mit dem Sub 10 ideal einstellt. Also welches die beste Crossover Einstellung wäre evt. Bezogen auf verschiedene Musik-genres ;) Es gibt echt wenig Dokumentation für so ein teures & gutes Monitoring systm....

What this was very helpful. So i have my new A7Vs, and my desk is high and i adjusted the stands so the woofers point at ear and the foam that holds them up is has a slight pendance so maybe the tweeters point more to my ears. After watching this video i'm thing, should i lower the stands, so the tweeter point at my ears, risking more desk reflections (i guess) or... what other option do i have?

Brilliant video.

I’m thinking about buying Adam Speakers for my studio. I work in film which requires me to have a 5.1 set. Looking at the A77X confused me, there is a right and left version which for me doesn’t make sense since I need a centre speaker. Is this speaker setup simply not for people who need a LCR setup?

Would turning the T8Vs upside down be a problem for the wave guides? The placement would put the tweeters at ear level for me.

A useful, though probably sort of difficult, topic to cover would be odd shaped spaces. For instance, many of us are in a bedroom sized room, but we can close it off or we can leave the doors open, making the actual space for the pressure waves to propagate through the whole house or apartment. In my case, I'm in a bedroom that opens into the apartment on the rear left. And, the middle of the back wall opens into a bathroom which in turn opens into a large closet. So, there's the option of having a significant chunk of the rear wall that is three times more distant. On either side of that are slightly less than door width walls. Some people may have doors on both side walls at the back, which means not really any rear corners, and what amounts to 'adjustable angle deflectors' instead. And there's no way to put in a corner trap there when there's no corner. Are there are any sort of general guidelines on those types of scenarios. Is it better to allow the pressure out into the overall space? Or does that just complicate things even worse? It would seem naively that it would allow for much greater dispersion of low frequency pressure, even if the space outside of the studio room is much more resonant. I'll be measuring mine as I add treatments of course, and that's the final arbiter, but I was just interested if there's any thoughts on this kind of thing.

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ja gut aber in eurem Beispiel ist ein Fehler. In normaler Position sind die Boxen schräg Richtung Hörer. Seitlich liegend zeigt ihr sie nicht zum Hörer schräg stehend, denn wenn der Hörer sich dann links oder rechts bewegt - bleibt die Entfernung zu beiden speakern in der box gleich - sie würde sich nur dann zum unteren speakern vergrößern wenn die box zB grade zur wand hinter dem Hörer befinden würde. fällt das niemandem auf? alle so: boah das wusste ich schon immer 🤣

ok I'll flip them back damn it :))))

Can you rotate the ribbon tweeters/wave guide 90° in the A7X?

helpful, ty

10/10 video

Ill do what I want.

Greatly explained! Thank you!

So basically investing in those $20 speaker pads that allow one to angle the speakers down in order to push on axis for those that are extremely space limited = best way for a desktop setup where the speakers are parked just above the monitor…

In the case where you have the speakers higher than your listening position (ears). what is better? to tilt the angle of the speaker or to put it horizontally? Thanks!

The problem can be alleviated by using coaxial drivers, has Adam looked at fluid Audio with the ribbon Tweeter surrounded by the mid woofer?

good explanation of the topic. but is the crackling noise in the audio intensional? sounds like coming from an old vinyl.

Can the Adam A7X be placed horizontally and the tweeter unscrewed and readjusted for horizontal placement?

So...in other words

Off-topic, what brand model are those eyeglasses/

I didnt get it sorry. So A77X in near field (around 90cm) will also have phase issues?

Fantastic video. Thank you.

I am a bit confused now. I am no sound engineer so I just read manuals and apply them. The A7X manual says you can use the speakers either vertically or horizontally and they have diagrams that show the correct positioning of the loudspeakers in each case. The video suggests that a horizontal setup can be problematic. Is a7x special or should I ignore the manual and stick with vertical setup ?

if a speaker has only one driver (like some high quality desktop speakers), can be placed horizontally?

Still using a pair of P33A's after nearly 10 years. I can't imagine life without them.

how about using the T5V horizontal? is it ok?

Can you please recommend Mounting hardware For the A7V and A77H for both Ceiling and wall? Thank you!

in case of A8H, left speaker, turn cw ? or ccw ?

En pocas palabras entendí que el t5v no está apto para trabajarlo en horizontal ?

Can a vertical woofer can be kept slept? Horizontally i mean

So Vertical or Horizontal ?

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Thank you for the video. Just to clarify.... if we want to only focus on the main listening position and not the entire row, which speaker would work better : horizontal or vertical?

Good vid, but more visual aids would be helpful.

What model is the speaker above the S3H?

Hi there, if I put my speakers horizontally... should i have the Twitter in or out? Or the sub speaker in or out?. Love my Adams!!!

In a home theater set up where a bookshelf Klipsch rp500m Mounted to the ceiling as rear surround speakers with there be a difference in quality to save heights mounting them horizontal ?

Thank you, more the reason why I chose Adam monitors. Great content.

Makes me so sad every time I see someone placing their speakers horizontally when they weren't designed that way... This has become a trend for some reason, I see everyone making this mistake. Adam studio monitors are top quality and have professionally engineered for the best quality sound but you aren't going to hear their full potential unless they are placed vertically as the engineers intended.

I bought some used A8X speakers recently... I heard them in a work environment for an entire summer and was thoroughly impressed by the fact that at any volume, the mixes held up... They sounded better than any other speaker that I have ever heard... I assumed that the "X" meant that they could be placed either horizontal or vertical without any serious degradation at either orientation... Is that not the case?

Thank you so much from bringing this subject to the table, I have see so much people putting their monitors horizontally and it created doubts on how to set up mines. Thanks again!

Good video lots of valuable information, thank you. Would love to know about wall mounted far field large speakers, from how to mount + a detailed info about how all the three fields speakers work in a control room...

Pre-ordered my A44H Monitors..So ready to have them in my small studio.With the Sound Reference Software to tune the room.👍

i have bought adam t8v its should place horizontal? l

What happen if the tweeter hit the inside of the ear better by rotation on the side my a5x?

What about turning the monitors upside down? Would that generate an unwanted effect? My monitors are too tall and I can't make the tweeters point to my ears

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Can you flip the tweeter in the s3v's to make them horizontal?

Hello, I have a pair of A77x and I'd like to know whether I can use them vertically by any chance?? TIA.

Can the tweeter be flipped in the t5v as well?

Very clear explanation. Awesome!

How about turning a T7V upside down, so the tweeter is below the woofer? How does that impact the sound?

Thank you!

Excellent info. Thanks

so i have a pair of A77x's.....should i angle them inward so the drivers are at the same distance from my ears?

This is not entirely correct. If you have speakers with conventional round tweeters on a shelf,and especially a bookshelf, and they are not angled inwards as they normally are when placed on stands but facing you flat on and the tweeter is on axis with your ear, mounting them horizontally will not change the distance from any of the drivers to your ears at all. They are simply revolving 90 degrees around the tweeter axis on the same plane and the distance from the drivers to your ears remains constant. In practice, however, unless you only have one speaker and are listening in mono, it is impossible for both tweeters to be exactly on axis with your ears. More important than speaker orientation and its effect on phase is that the sound you hear is determined mostly by the acoustics of the room, where you listen in it and where the speakers are placed in it. Moving around and away from the normal sweet spot position even by tiny amounts can result in quite noticeable changes in the sound balance throughout the frequency spectrum. I am convinced that phase effects caused by orientation are insignificant and it is other factors that are more important. I even used to have a set of bookshelf speakers ( B&W DM5s) which had their tweeters connected out of phase with the bass unit. Mounting speakers horizontally can definitely work but as a general rule the tweeters should be towards the inside rather than the outside because of the greater directionality of high frequency sound. You need the tweeters to be firing as directly as possible towards your ears. Changing their orientation so that the woofers are nearer to room boundaries or corners can also boost the bass, which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on what you want. It is not a good idea to mount speakers horizontally if they have a waveguide designed to spread the high frequencies sideways, or have ribbon or heil effect drivers which have a horizontal dispersion pattern unless, of course, you can remount the tweeters 90 degrees, which with some models is possible. You can also mount speakers upside down if that helps position the tweeter more on axis with your ears.

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this was golden thank you

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If placed horizontally should the tweeter be inwards or outwards?