VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 64 

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Oh boy,,,, why are reacting on other VFX videos , why don't u create ur own and let Ppl react

Honestly as a huge fan of practical effects, like the majestic armies in Waterloo could never be captured with just cg armies..it's all about knowing when to use CG. Dunkirk is the best example, I love Nolan and he's dedication to practical, but holy crap it was jarring having 20 dudes represent 100,000s of troops, 3 planes to represent thousands..and a modern day empty Dunkirk instead of a bombed out husk haha, that drama Atonement captured the event better in one scene. Blending the two is how it's done

Also don't feel bad ripping on seagal this past year, the dude is a Putin loving, conspiracy rambling fat clown who is a huge dick to crew on set, is super arrogant about his fighting skills even though he doesn't have any and peed himself from a headlock after claiming he could escape one haha, he's a joke

This one ☝🏼 please!

American Gods too!

Agreed

nice to see you here man

they already did

I remember having a tour of ILM many years ago, and seeing that Hook matte painting, and the one from the end of Die Hard 2, and just nerding out. Opposite the machine that did the composite for the speeder bike chase in Jedi if I remember correctly.

Is it possible to get a high quality print of those matte paintings? ILM has done so many cool ones.

I can't believe they didn't even mention the waterfall moving on the matte painting.

The tease of the island in the flow of the shot before the full reveal is class(ic/y) Spielbergo

I don’t think ILM can sell anything related to those images since the studio technically own the imagery itself. They could auction or sell the painting itself I guess.

i was gonna say i just watched behind the scenes and they have pyhsically pellets breaking the glass but they wouldn't break the plastic layer they added. Also unsure weather the cars they stated were CGI in the video were in fact CGI in the movie. Guess i'll never know

HA! That’s amazing! My guess was that some of them were practically and some with CGI, was I right or all of them are physical special effects? Anyway, congratulations, man!

Would be funny to see a scene like that done virtually with qled screens and real time camera solve lol

Hahaha I think that's the "one last fact" that Sam wanted to give them about that scene, that the glass hits were practical.

That’s the best way to do it!!! And there’s realistic reference just in case

Yes please

Ooh yeah, as a Brit, I would love that!

What did they do about her legs exactly? Speed them up? Make her hit?

Had a feeling it was real. Sometimes the VFX brain takes over the practical brain. At a certain point there is confusion between what is really real and what is really fake.

My theory about the shadow in the clouds is that they actually cast a shadow on the cotton using a miniature puppet of him

I’m pretty sure they were saying the cracks were real in the video. That’s the impression I got, anyway. They were talking about what the practical cracks had that the matrix cg ones lacked

@@AccAkut1987 they erased the higher heeled sneakers de armas was wearing during the filming, replaced them with the heels seen in the movie and made the hitting leg connect on the goons face; also touched on the standing leg

Yeah really appreciate Niko’s empathising

@@Gnossiene369 I wouldn’t like to be in the opposing side of targeted internet hate for making a shitty 3D art dude. Whether they did it out of goodness of their heart or they’re covering their asses, it’s good. Period. Why so much stress here man? I don’t get it.

@@Gnossiene369 There are plenty of times where they have talked about straight up bad VFX jobs. Their point for the Segal example is that the shot was conceptually flawed from the beginning. There are many pieces that go into a good VFX shot and it’s not always the fault of the VFX artist.

@@Gnossiene369 You got some problems man.

In a lot of industries you have deadlines and budgetary constraints that lead to compromises, and VFX us certainly one of them. I think with more time and money, the shots could have been made a little more natural.

The fact the clouds were stop motion cotton balls is currently blowing my mind!! 😳 Many of the effects from that time don't hold up super-well, but that one's still amazing...

it's gotta be on their website, right? xD

Compare with the bullet shots in the Clint Eastwood film "The Gauntlet". IIRC they shot glass marbles at the bus window glass with air guns. Hey Corridor Crew- take a look at that!

Yeah they looked too good to be CGI, there was light hitting every single crack perfectly.

THIS.

I would love to see the Blizzard Entertainment trailers. Warcraft 3 and Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne, WoW, WoW: Burning Crusade, Diablo, Starcraft 2, Overwatch, Heart of the Storm. They have impressively good trailers and cinematics. Then have them compare it to Warcraft 3: Reforged. XD

Dude did you see the new Luke Skywalker in Boba Fett? They hired Shamook, the guy who did the deepfake on RU-vid after last year's episode, and it was damn near flawless. When I saw that episode I was like "okay, we've officially reached the point where we can have entire shows with de-aged or resurrected main characters."

Yeah man, it's crazy how we can make things looks so real to our reality.

@@maxhydekyle2425 well, it worked in a pretty static setup where Luke didn't move or emote too much. That is where it can indeed look perfect. But you can see how they cut away from him speaking a lot and instead showed reaction shots of Grogu and Asohka. Clearly intentional so they don't have to show facial expressions and precise lip movements that would have been harder to pull off realisticly. They also kept the camera at a greater distance for most of the shots and had a very deliberate lighting setup, that would also hide some imperfections. It is undeniably a great improvement and best in class effect shot though. However I think we are still a long way from being able to do a lead character for an entire movie/show.

And it literally has just been a couple decades. Imagine what cinematography will look like in 2060 …

Unfortunately if it was a real car that hit that it would wreck the car... After working with wrecked cars most car stunts look fake.

@@josephread8414 most importantly, I bet that bridge has some centuries unders it's belt, you can't just wreck a car on it

Yah me too. I figured they'd either used a cgi bond or just kinda added one in the other type of deal I dunno but damn that shit had me believing

@@josephread8414 that was my first thought. A real car would never "jump" over a rock with that size.

@@josephread8414 Yes if it did happen in real life, the car was going to be wrecked, but in Hollywood movies the point is to create an illusion, I think it could've been practical if they put a small ramp on the other side of the stone Bond is taking cover that was CG removed, kind of like the bike jump. Even before the CGI era there were a lot of car stunts in movies that in real life would be impossible and the cars will be wrecked. But the point is how CG is becoming indistinguishable from practical.

YES Also they should look at the RU-vid channel of John Smith

@@DoctorWhoFan_1234 definitely, some amazing work on the channel

I would love to see them do an entire episode dedicated to Dr who not just the intros, which are awesome.

Yes

@@hippiesmiles8934 yeah, there’s a lot of great and bad cgi to look at in the show, like with The Rebel Flesh/The Almost People with it’s… interesting… cgi, or the entirety of Flux with overall great cgi (with a few glaring exceptions, or course). I’m surprised that in 60-something episodes they havent looked at it once

Isn't it wonderful?

I came here to say that.

Agreed 10000%

I’ve watched at least some of his vids before and I had no clue they were 100% vfx, or that he was only 16 that’s so crazy

True dat bro

His AOT videos are dope.

Another interesting intro is the original Doctor Who which was made back in 1963 and to this day is still fascinating to watch because of the way that intro was made.

Yes to this! 100%

Make it a separate episode, but I am down.

No CGI used until the 80's..so less than 60 years..

@@andrewbevan4662 you know full well that the title of every one of these videos says "CGI", and then they talk about plenty of vfx that aren't cgi

@@okuno54 It still might have been more accurate to say '60 years of VFX evolution'. That said, I'd really enjoy seeing that too, and I havn't seen all that much of Dr. Who.

+1 to doing scenes from Doctor Who, especially taking some of the super early stuff from the 60s and 70s

he isn't a permanent member??

Honestly thought he was a permanent member.

Wdym he already is

For me, Wren and Niko are the real heart of the show and I wouldn't want either of them absent from the couch for too long. Despite his obvious talent and experience, Wren just has this youthful humility and excitement that is very easy for outsiders to identify with, like he's an avatar for younger viewers :-)

Thank you Wren’s mom (aka “Lucifer”). You love your little boy so much (and so do I)!

In terms of artistry and vfx the Foundation intro is a million times more incredible. Whereas the Expanse opening has a deep connection with the show

The coolest part about the exapnse intro is that it changes based on plot developments.

same here man same here

This literally just happened to me and i had to play it back cause it freaked me out so much 😅@@zacm

should honestly just do an episode about doctor who in general

I really doubt Doctor Who is much of a thing in America

@@Glen0cide One of the few reasons it is still going is due to the shows' export. Americans go nuts for it, they even have a massive expo dedicated to the show, something us Brits can only dream of.

@@Glen0cide maybe not as much as in the UK, but doctor who is fairly big in the US

Yes PLEASE. A Doctor Who episode is long overdue.

Also, it's a spectacular show that, like many HBO series, was cancelled before it paid off its promise (I'm looking at you, Rome).

second that

Yes, Carnivále please! Such an amazing show cut way too short by HBO. Man, I love this show.

Carnivale kicked ass! It feels rushed though, like they knew it wasn't getting a second season? It got kind of ridiculous, really fast.

@@dethmaul The second season speeds up because the creator Dan Knauf explained how he treats Carnivále like a trilogy of books, with 2 seasons per book. He had 6 seasons planned from the start. We technically only got the first book, and that is why the second season picks up like it does, mimicking the way the final half of a book picks up speed until its climax. He didn't change anything with the second season to try and fit in answers, but he did cut some characters like the Twins and Gecko. He initially had written 16 episodes for season 2, but chose to cut it down to 12 because he wanted the season to move quicker. He discovered it was canceled after season 2 was already wrapped. The next 4 seasons would've covered about 15 years until the explosion of the atom bomb. The creator has spoken out and gave us some tidbits about the future. So, please, avoid the next bit below if you haven't finished watching the show. The third season would've been 5 years later and the Carnivále disbanded. You would discover that Jonesy actually survived the gunshot at the end of season 2 and returns to playing baseball with Libby. Season 3 would've opened up with Brother Justin giving a sermon to his followers, but you can see he is clearly injured and not his full self. That's because the anointed blade stabbed in his chest broke off and is still lodged near his heart. Sofie was able to revive him, but unable to remove the blade shard. We will also see that Sofie is there by his side watching the sermon and that's when they reveal... Sofie with a baby. Whose baby is this? Well, we would spend the next seasons discoving that. Brother Justin would also have this crazy huge cathedral built on his plot of land with his speeches being broadcasted all over the airwaves and loads of followers. He would have this massive office with depictions of hell paint on its walls. Ben would be recovering from his fight with battle and become like a Management figure trying to find out more to the prophecy and building his powers. He would eventually have to try and reunite the Carnivále in order to fight against Brother Justin. Creator Dan Knauf also said that we saw the final scene of Carnivále somewhere within the two seasons we got. I also highly suggest reading Knauf's Carnivále Pitch Document and AV Club's article "Daniel Knauf Tells Us His Plan For The End Of Carnivàle." Back when it was canceled, HBO offered a movie to close up things, but Knauf refused as he had 15 years worth of story left to tell and did not want to ruin it by rushing it as a movie. Knauf was trying to push HBO to go to Comic Con with it back then, before Comic Con was as popular as it is today. But HBO would fight him about these things. He got the vibe that HBO didn't know how to market the show. Knauf eventually did some work with Marvel and Marvel wanted to continue Carnivále as a graphic novel, but HBO blocked that. Sadly, HBO owns the rights. Knauf kept hope that HBO would allow him to finish it. It's shame because viewership numbers were trending back upward during season 2 with the finale even beating Deadwood.

Agreed!

Y E S

Also there would be stone chucks, because hey stone is kind of soft in the grand scheme of things.

This reminds me of all the car stunts back in 80s, when every sunt was made with a ramp, so even a direct hit to the rear of a standing car resulted in a car flying to the air and turning upside down. Here the boulder is flat and perpendicular to the road, so the car would've just transfer all the momentum to it, get wrecked and 007 would've died. You have to have at least 45 deg. angle of a stone to fly a car in the air, or the car will just crash.

Wouldn't they just put a small ramp there if it was practical?

it was too smooth

That’s a very important part of their formula I guess. They’ve been on the rise since they’ve embraced and optimized their reactions videos.

Who I bet they could totally get on the show since dante basco has worked with rooster teeth/achievement hunter and corridor crew knows gavin from achievement hunter

@@atlas_vash YES! Make this a thing, Artists!

Also Jake Long from American Dragon. And appeared in Blood and Bone as a friend to Michael Jai White.

YES! It most certainly is

I get goosebumps every time I watch it.

The one show that I never hit the 'skip intro' button.

@Rich This.....unfortunately

let's hope it hasn't been produced by the WOKE committee...

@Rich Are you implying that it's butchered simply because it includes women and black people?...

@Rich Does not matter if the dwarf is black or white or asian as long as still a Dwarf, is the writing and performance of the actors that has to meet the standars.

@@Omnicraze well, considering climate, they have no reason to have black skin, they should be at least from Haradwaith. If there are black in the north region "just because", then it is the misrepresentation of the world, hence "butchered", at least in my opinion.

Especially the way they achieved the original titles effects!

Please do this!

I think they actually did it like this, wouldn't be surprised. It would be easy to match the movements of the puppet to that of Robin Williams.

@@awandererfromys1680 Exactly, plus if you look at the shadow while Robin Williams is moving around, it's pretty much static and changes when he's facing the camera. The shadow goes from being a person to an oval shaped object

That’s what I figured too, once they explained how the clouds were stop “go motion”. No need to overcomplicate the compositing, so just have a scrim and puppet shape and light that travels alongside the camera.

@@Fool1000 It's animated when Robin spreads his arms and flips back again, right before the clouds clear. I think because it's animated and not static that it's done practical and not some CG after effect. It all has a story-telling purpose here, show-don't-tell, so everything is planned, no happy accidents. And I just can't imagine the art department going through all that set-up and then an art director going "Nah, forget it, we'll do it in post" at that point. It would be completely illogical, to the point I'd question the person's qualifications lol. Using a puppet is obvious. The puppet was most likely attached to the "go" rig together with the camera so it doesn't motion blur.

Well, the mannequin would have to duplicate Robin Williams' movement. It's possible, but it's a lot of work.

yess westworld pls

American Gods was also very nice.

@@jackkraken3888 just checked it out... so good... there are a few in the header over on OTOY's homepage... can't name them all though

@@robertiagar thanks will check it out

I think they didn’t want to cut the stunt into small pieces and edit it so that the great stunt work would be seen properly in one wide take. It’s funny that that approach would make it look fake to a cg artist.

Me too. I was so confused that I skipped back.

I swear! It Got me tripping cuz I was about to click on another video

@@zakattack1362 I thought they talked about a Zach earlier, maybe Zach King who does the short cgi Magic videos.

If the radius of the wheel is close enough to the size of the wall, youd get a similar effect. The car would still be wrecked but it would jump

Yeah bro one super underrated movie thats for sure! They should react to it if they haven't already 🤔

They've reacted to a shot from that movie in a previous episode. The one where Jet Li punches a bunch of guards while moving really fast.

@@NickOwens ahhh see I had a feeling I might have seen something like that a while ago, thanks for the reminder! Do you remember the episode number by any chance?

Love that movie

@@MrLightJrGamEz they could still react to different scenes tbh they have a few other crazy parts they could look at

I love that movie!

Ask on their pateron. They don't read YT comments.

Most likely a puppet just out of frame. Or maybe even in frame but covered up with Robin in post. It is animated tough, look at the shadow when Robin brings his arms down and flips back just before he dips down to the island. But yea, definitely practical. No sense in doing that in post, CGI or otherwise.

Nah. It has some water in it too.

Literally

Do you mean the animators react series? Because the last Agni Kai is not CG

Yes to this; in particular take a look at the use of foreground miniatures in 'For Your Eyes Only', 'Octopussy', and 'The Living Daylights'!

He was saying he originally thought it was fake because all of the other shots were tight and it's easier to do CG on a wide shot like that because you don't see a lot of detail.

@@danieljensen2626 I guess what I mean is he was saying that in kind of a disparaging tone, as if the fact he thought the shot looked fake (even though it's mostly in-camera) meant that it was a bad decision by the filmmakers. Whereas I don't think you should ever be able to criticize a filmmaker because their real shot looks fake. That's your problem!

Totally agree, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. A wide angle shot could have been chosen for artistic reasons as much as technical.

I'd have liked a shot behind the head of the rider going up and cut to the wide in mid air

Disagree as well. It fits well and is kind of a „breath in“ moment. That opens a new place and pauses for a secondy