VFX Artists React to LORD OF THE RINGS Bad & Great CGi 2 

Where’s the Hobbit VFX Reacts follow up? 😭

How does this pinned comment from Corridor Crew itself only have 6 likes 😂😂🤦

Did you notice that the shock wave, for just a moment, is actually the sentence written on the ring?

Honestly the KEY factor for why LoTR worked so well..was the 3 years of pre production and storyboarding haha. No producers rushing it, no crunch, no scrambling to change a shot two weeks before the end like you see so much nowadays And why the Hobbit lacked so much polish & has way more jank, production was shambles, Del Toro got axed and they scrambled and threw Jackson back on last minute and so almost everything was thrown together last minute, barely any planning or preproduction

Exactly.

Ya this was last century, over 20 years ago. I remember getting a 256mb ram stick around that time as a kid.

@@chrisrichfield8906 wow, 256mb, now there are computers with over 1 terabytes of ram

Yup, it was all made in 1998-2001...

@@carso1500 not really normal pc can have at the most 128 GB ddr4 ram.

Yes! I remember being so blown away in the theater when I first saw it

Saw it again two days ago, and it’s still mind blowing! Me and my girlfriend are working in VFX, and we were theorising all evening long!

X Highly possible, that would be my first go to, it’s just that everything is matching so well, from the lighting to the position of every facial features that I was almost wondering if they hadn’t added some other digital effects or if it was even something different. But yeah, it’s most likely à manually animated cross fade with matching performances, just like they did on Michael Jackson’s “Black or white”

ABSOLUTELY

Came here to say this! It may not be too technical as someone else said but it is masterfully done.

Jet engine in full afterburner

If I remember correctly it's a breezeblock being dragged over concrete in a very echoey tunnel

@@dominicjames4848 indeed :)

jurassic park t rex roar

@@jonathanraecrisanto5912 Nebelwerfer

Eru Illuvatar bless you

Thank you for your service to fantasy fans, truly.

Thanks for making generations of nerds

All that hard work shows. It really does.

Wow I know this is an old comment and all, but I just wanted to say that you and the entire LOTR team are responsible for probably the greatest trilogy in movie history. The hard work, no the RIDICULOUS amount of work you guys put into these movies just really really shows. Genius planning and execution, incredible imagination, pure love for the lore, and going above and beyond to create this, it's no question at all. It might sound a little selfish, but I hope they don't remake these movies ever. I feel like Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King are by definition, perfect, the way they are.

Oh yeah but RU-vid is a shitty corporate bureaucracy now, where strict copyright and content rules disable monetization or just takedown the whole video at the slightest misstep. #fucksusanwojcicki

i'm expecting the director's cut of this video... 4 hours long

John Doe I’m sorry who tf ask jp

i agree 100%

6 episodes. 3 hours each. In keeping with tradition.

It's just a happy little accident

I do not believe it! I will not!

Harry potter movies!

Idea for the second tattoo 😂

I second this

Nowadays they would made half of characters black.

⁠@docsamson8314Yes cause what would be more empowering to minorities than giving them white people’s tablescraps cause you’re too lazy to give them compelling characters of their own?

I'm came down to look for this comment

Cos Lord of the Rings was better

@@tonigregory3240 dude in this video they said they were going to do a "the hobbit" video.

Ya, I'm looking for that. I hope that there was not a copyright claim.

@@ResisterOfEvil They may not have created a Hobbit dedicated episode but I do remember them analysing the White Orc. Couldn't find it after a quick search, maybe it has been taken down.

Funnily enough, that's exactly what happened with the movies themselves. Peter Jackson originally pitched LOTR as a two-parter to Miramax (Harvey and Bob Weinstein's company). They started pre-production but the budget soon spiraled and Bob Weinstein demanded that the movie be condensed into a single film. Peter Jackson wasn't happy about cutting out "half the good stuff", so Miramax told him they would look for a new director. They agreed to give Jackson a month to find another studio to take over the project, otherwise, he would be off the movie and it would be released as a single film. Every studio that met with Jackson turned him down. They all wanted to make a single movie. A few of them agreed to a double feature, but they wanted most of the expensive scenes cut out, which Jackson found unacceptable. Jackson's last meeting was with Bob Shaye (the head of New Line Cinema at the time). He said, "Why would you do two films when there's three books? Why wouldn't you do three films?". Jackson immediately signed a contract with New Line and the rest is history.

DECODED thanks for the info!

@@DECODEDVFX that was a cool tidbit!

@DECODED Reminds me of George Lucas' struggle to get a studio to sign on for Star Wars. Thanks for the cool info!

@@DECODEDVFX this might be the first paragraph comment I've read to the end, anyway thanks for the info

that that is a person who LOVES what hes working on and working with that dude would only done that if he was 100% happy with what hes doing and working with.

Lord Manhammer where did u find that? I can’t find that story anywhere

He is a national treasure and therefore must be protected

@@jarhead3736 He made it up lmfao

Fun fact, technically sauron was never supposed to be a flaming eye, his SYMBOL was the flaming eye but he was actually meant to be a physical body. But peter decided to do that. So imagine.... We could have almost not gotten that seen if it had been more accurate.

Same

As films, they are very consistent, but it still disappoints me that each film strayed further and further from the source material. "Fellowship of the Ring" will always be my favorite of the three simply because it sticks closest to Tolkien's books.

@@Durwood71 Its a function of variance. The Variance introduced in the first film rippled out requiring more variance as they went on. It's actually amazing that they kept as much as they did. The Extended editions bring the other two closer to the books in my opinion. There are really only a couple changes I really wish they hadn't made. They turned the battle for Minas Tirith into a deus ex machina, and they severely maligned the character of Faramir. Though I can forgive them Faramir's indecision because they really rescued Boromir's character.

ARISE,ARISE RIDERS OF ROHAN

@@ActionNerdGo You gotta make a movie man. With a book you have all the time you need to explain stuff, with a movie you only have a certain amount. You need to keep the audience engaged.

What sells it for me is the slight change of the LOTR music motif as the tower falls, subtle and suddenly with a positive inflection. Made me cry in the cinema…

It's "eucatastrophe". Tolkien invented the term himself.

Agreed

A trilogy, if you would, about the trilogy

They could go into as much depth as they’d like and make it 20 episodes and I’d love it.

Yeah I was hoping for some of the VFX funkiness, like the trees of Fangorn forest, or the army of ghosts.

This

lmao you're right

Dude yes!

@Logikure They used to play a game called the 'Game of Life' where when a person said 'mine', they would have to do 10 push ups on the spot.

@Logikure It's called Game of Life because the rule follows you for life.

Niko's not in the game, and Wren was too stoked about LotR to think about the Game of Life.

Yeah, the build up on the Balrog was so strong I hid my face in my fathers arm as a kid. then, like a minute later, right after it had shown up, I got curious and tried to free myself to see. My dad thought I was freaking out and held me harder. I missed the whole Balrog first time in theaters. Was rather mad about that.

Exactly why Lord of the Rings mostly looks better than the Hobbit films

And even when they didn't need CGI, like a gun in Spiderman: Far from Home.

@Joshua Yeah, I agree! Imagine if they made a new Star Wars video with the same techniques they did back with the original triology? Would be awesome.

​@@st.michaelthearchangel7774 Fact is, the _Star Wars_ prequels, despite being derided as CGI spectacles, actually use tons of models and practical effects. Most people aren't aware that each prequel film had more models and practical effects than the entire original trilogy combined.

@Joshua Davidson Not only that, but there are problems with the current state of cgi in movies. Problems such as a single production using a ridiculous number of studios doing different things, visual effects staff being overworked and underpaid, and deadlines that prohibit the teams from polishing the finished product. You look at a blockbuster movie like black panther, and wonder how the final battle can look that bad from a studio that prints money. It's just a shame that some higher ups can look at that and go "good enough." That kind of passion for excellence in visual effects is lacking, but luckily we still have people like James Cameron that are pushing the envelope.

Each one feature length

100%

Plot twist: He was Muslim.

@@MahatmaAndhi Plot twist: you're an incel

Andi Springthorpe Why does that matter? Working through a work break doesn’t have much to do with religion

@@mattagor2460 It was a joke. People that don't celebrate Christmas don't care as much. Such as myself. I happily work it because it's quiet and I get paid to do not much.

@@buffnipz Plot twist: I'm married, you imbecile.

Damn Lews Therin, you are good observant for a mad man!

I can’t stop laughing! Thank you, fellow nerdiest of nerds.

All of them. That Davy Jones is some pirate perfection.

@@zephyr887 totally agree but theyve already done Dead Mans Chest

@@HellsBeastProductions True but it's totally worth doing again xD

Definitely

Yes

Right! And they're a weird effect. Cool but sorta funky too. There is some real dodgy looking stuff in Return of the King but they didn't really touch on it.

@@andrewt9128 what dodgy stuff?

@@TheWartechgaming Legolas climbing the oliphaunt looks pretty bad by today's standards. The Army of the Dead don't look great either in the battle.

@@shayposting really? Thought the oliphant itself as a cg character holds up quite well, the legolas climbing part does look a little bit iffy

@@shayposting they talked about that in one of the first videos.

8 MoNtHs LaYtEr...

yeah where is it

@@Ericbuddysquishytoad not surprising at all that they would just skip the Hobbit movies. They are the biggest example of VFX taken way to far. with Ian Mckellen saying how miserable he was acting on a greenscreen for the entire movie. To the point that he literally burst into tears and yelled "this is not why I became an actor" during one of the many scenes where he is acting on his own while the dwarfs are edited in. for the size difference. To the CGI orcs looking far worst than they did in LOTR. They felt real and grounded making them far more intimidating. the real orcs in the LOTR were capable enough to fool you into thinking you are looking at an orc but the CGI ones only reminded you you are looking at a computered generated orc.

@@jimmystevenson3178 all the more reason to do it. To highlight the issues while also showing the great effects that were eclipsed by the bad.

WHERE IS IT?? I NEED THIS!!!!

I agree with this

it feels like something is left unsaid

Highly recommend to watch extra videos for Extended Editions of LOTR trilogy

An unofficial "commentary track" by Corridor for one of the best movie trilogies ever made would be a great way to kick off 2020! EDIT: trilogies, not theologies. Stupid autocorrect!

Extended version, please

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He may have only watched LOTR, but heck it is almost enough.

rise of the skywalker was better

@@user-zu6ts5fb6g Cats was better.

@Cyberdemon Mike Nothing waa better than that

@@rafaelalodio5116 not almost. It IS enough.

It would take them to long to say anything worth saying

Nobody cares for the woods anymore

ikr

Ya y’all gotta talk about the close up shot of the goblin puppet in the Moria chase scene

More please!!

Seriously! ROTK had as many VFX shots as the other two films combined yet we only get a taste of it???? Skip the The Hobbit video, we all know it was bad and should feel bad.

they didn't talk about the mumakils

Lmao

I mean if there’s a single set or movies you should see in life, it’s lord of the rings.

TheGreatVakama112 what about star wars harry potter and the godfather?

@@Doctor_Straing_Strange harry Potter is mediocre.

@@Doctor_Straing_Strange Harry Potter? 😂😂😂

Yeah I cant find it either :/

Yes this!!

Came here to ask the same question :(

Still nothing 😥

me too!!!!!!

They are quite enjoyable to watch, just the scale and amount of some of the elements they had to do, like with the chainmail, where if I recall well, they were 3 or 4 persons working by themselves and they made something like 2km worth or chainmail xD it's rather impressive. The models are something to see as well, would recommend any fans of LotR and VFX to go watch these documentaries/behind the scenes.

I've not even seen LOTR but I'm here

@@swertyque480 Go watch it. Right now.

@@swertyque480 It's a masterpiece trilogy. Watch it. Hobbit it optional. It's not that great. But LOTR is unforgettable.

The movies and the special features are the best way to spend a month, watching everything in one go. 😂🤘

That guy who puts a knife in simon Pegg in peter jackson

The point was PJ didn't make HF, he only had a cameo in it

Yeah, Frighteners or Bad Taste would have been acceptable 🤮🥣 🧟

for a second i was like, Peter Jackson directed Hot Fuzz?😱 good movie though

Exactly! I'm like fuck, I'll always remember that when I rewatch the movie 🤣

Neither did I! But now I have the feeling I won't ever be able to unsee it.

me either and i've watched the films far to many times lol

Edit: never mind, I got it mixed up

@@Rhonu No, it's Sam.

@@UKBxnzh Yeah you're right. I saw the movie last week but somehow I had it in my head that that was Frodo

Yeah should've been one part per movie. The ents, the ringwraiths' flying steeds, the army of the dead (which are IN the thumbnail). Oliphaunts, horses, and the wargs. And Gandalf's fireworks!

Buddy probably got a huge bonus and paid time off for that.

@@jayrymer2097 Probably didn't though. Life of a VFX artist... Underappreciated and underpaid.

@@srennowakowski3090 Ugh that would be heartbreaking...Peter Jackson seems like an ok guy, I'm sure he'd recognize the hard work in some way.

Aw man. I hope he got a bonus. All 3 LOTRs were nominated for Oscars and this one took the big one home. He deserves a raise!

They had to tweak the Rohan ai to not run away because they were so horrifically outnumbered

Well, AI is not new. It's just recently popular. Most stuff you learn in undergrad today was techniques developed during the time of filming or earlier.

I'll never forget how Weta thought they made a self aware AI because they saw a few of them far off in the hills. An AI SO smart, that it saw the opponent army and thought "Bugger this, I'm outta here", when it was just a model that didn't collide with any of the opponents.

@@starllama2149 I don't believe it's machine learning if you mean it by undergrad techniques. At the time ML was pretty weak due to computing power and learning such stuff would be overkill (e.g. deep learning networks become viable around 2012). It was probably some rules made by engine authors (heuristics). But it's just my opinion.

J P it’s fuzzy logic, which is not ML, since there’s no learning aspect but it can give the illusion of intelligent decision making.

a raise for a raze

Careful, hes a hero

He’s an absolute madlad.

Some of the Witcher cgi is laughably bad

@@AsylumSaint if you got a xbox download free movies HD watched the mandalorian and witcher it's good quality and is oddly reliable for a movie app

Mandalorian apparently still isn't out in some places, so maybe not for a bit.

@@747lch Yeah, gotta be honest, the very first beast you see has some really... puppet like movements.

@@747lch "Bad and Great CGI"

Riley Martin dont you dare speak that name in this comment section

@@Beans420MoreBeans But he's the nicest dude, dude

Remember the game of life? :V

WingMaster562 do they still play that?

@@brandonanimations2915 Nope, not since CMike left as the editor/cameraman. . Also, it seems like the game is only on when CMike is rolling the camera, that's maybe the second and unspoken rule. The first rule being when you're in, you're in for life.

I second this

Guess I fourth this

I fifth this

DO IT!!!

I number this

I could eat up 2 hours of them talking about this trilogy

Gabriel Hornbrook yes please

I will pay for more Lord of the Ring and Star Wars reactions

They're just winging it these days.

they need to make an extended edition of this vfx react. I could watch this for 12 hours, divided in videos of 4 hour.

Yes!, the CGI in District 9 looked incredibly photo-realistic.

I rewatched that movie recently and WOW it still looks fantastic

Weta are the kings of CGI.

I actually think they have allready. I've seen it. But now I'm not sure if it was corridor or another channel that did the analyze. Pretty sure I saw it on this channel tho. But it's 3pm here, so don't take my word for it.

District 9 is still one of the standout VFX films for me. The photorealism is simply stunning. Perfectly composited with the life action footage. Amazing.

Bro, that whole battle did not even make any sense :l

GoT focused heavily on cgi. Whereas Peter Jackson utilized both practical effects and cgi.

I mean, there's also the fact that the Two Towers had a budget of 94 million dollars, which would be the equivalent of around 140 million today. In comparison to the Blackwater episode, which had a budget of 8 million. It's also important to point out that the Lord of the Rings movies were filmed and edited over around 4-5 years. All in all each season of Game of Thrones, excluding the final season, had only a year to complete an entire season, which was often longer than the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy in runtime. I have many gripes with Game of Thrones, and the final season was an unfortunate disaster, but we should also be fair to the hard working people who tried their best to bring us something amazing - and for the most part they did.

@@peterbabicki8252 no, got was all about money, they don’t know how to make the audience happy and they don’t care

@@melvinrosendaal9795 then why waste millions of dollars? At the start it was a fantastic show since it followed the books until they reached where they had NO book to use and so had to make it all original. That's the issue GoT has with the finale season or 2 (I forgot if if it was last season or last 2 seasons). Even so, we shouldn't just disrespect the artists, animators, those work on custumes that the show became bad due to the director's and corporate stuff. Like for example, you were hired to be one of the developers of a movie (doing modelling of stuff), how would you feel if they said same thing you said to them, you did not do it cause ya love but for the money. You be pretty heartbroken that people think you don't care but you do.

Yeah, people were born after Fellowship came out who can now vote.

@@smaakjeks I remember going to cinema to watch these movies with my parents. I was 12 to 15 back then. Damn, I feel old. To be honest, about a year ago we gave a watch to all LotR movies in their director's cut versions. Almost 12 hours of high fantasy and great, truly epic story.

@@smaakjeks God damnit why did you have to say that?

@@MiaogisTeas I am the keeper of the eternal grandfather clock. Its bell eventually tolls for all, and your time approaches with every swing of the pendulum. Live while you can, hapless mortal. Rage against the dying of the light.

Smaakjeks I feel old.

I think they are very well aware of this trilogy since it's the highest standard of motion capture today. Probably coming sometime.

😂😂😂

What is this?... A Helms Deep for ants!!!

Ahh Monty Python. It never ages

WHY DOES IT HURT SO MUCH

So true. It's a masterpiece by any stretch of the word.

Yes

Barad-Dur, please ;)

that actually was basically just a combination of a number of shots they did with bernard hill in different makeup

watch the behind the scenes documentaries dude, most of them are on RU-vid and they are some of the most relaxing and fun videos there are if you're a Tolkien fan.

They said there's gonna be 3 parts. Any shot from Minas Tirith and Pellenor Battle has been shown yet either. 😉

Watch their first video on LOTR. This is part 2.

What do i think it is Morph tho i dont know how old is this soft

20 years.

"There and back again" and again and again and again. I have seen these movies maybe 50 times.

It's still just so alive

LOTR is now almost old enough to drink

It's emblematic of what made LotR so great - everyone working on it wanted to DO IT RIGHT. There isn't any one shot where you can't feel the effort and attention to detail just flowing out of it.

u know, aslan is turkish for lion. kinda funny huh

@GamersOnVideos 1. Accidentally Racist 2. Baad

Lion King: Sorry, 3D lions can't emote Narnia, 14 years earlier: Hold my Turkish Delight...

TBH those effect shots were outdated the day after they were finished.

Shark Boy and Lava Girl^ 👌🏼

Or Speed Racer which I actually find awesome!

They never looked convincing. Though they got worse as the films went on, I think. I’m pretty sure the director wanted them to look cartoony and out of place.

Picking on the Spy Kids films is pretty low. They did the job.

All the yes

Also their hair floating around like it's underwater, and the crew members with holes you can see through

Just all Pirates of the Caribbean would be a good vid.

Lez did not look good compared to POTC: Dead Mans Chest Davy Jones.

The first one was very impressive for its time. The second one blows everything out of the water though.

Have they done the original Pirates yet?

And maybe some 'The Book of Eli' which has a lot of similar effects and practicals. ('Love this movie!)

They've already done that in another video!

That's all he watches, He goes home and sits in his LOTR upholstered couch and just does marathon after marathon of all the movies.

@@MrNewElvis The right way to live.

Well if I could only watch one movie series it would be Lotr