VFX Artists React to STAR WARS Bad & Great CGi 

oh sheeet

I was coming to say that.

Quite a few things in this video are not correct. :-/

@The Anthropologist _Forensic Then read my other comments, bro. :-0

Nooice

J Same!!! Lol

It’s a shame the joke isn’t even funny, I don’t know why they keep poking at it every video. The film obsessive/stuntman/actor/film editor/animator/CGI artist/filmmaker who claims doesn’t seem to ever have watched any film when questioned. It’s like a vacuum cleaner salesman who never owned a vacuum cleaner in his life. It’s like if Steven Spielberg claimed he’d never watched a 90’s film in his life. It’s. Just. Dumbo. Stahp! Please. It’s not funny.

U nailed it 😂

Apatheism I think at some point they will change this model. It really doesn’t makes sense, like u said

All of them - soy boys

Brilliant jump cut. Never noticed that before.

@@SemiMono How can you not notice that it's the most glaring effect in the whole movie. Don't get me wrong it was a master class VFX revolution brought about by geniuses but that cut always bothered me since I first saw the movie like 15 years ago

@@Pauly421 Haha! To each his own. It was obvious to me when they showed it, and I was looking for it. Maybe it's because I was a kid when I first watched it? Maybe my eyes are a little poor (they are)? Or maybe I get a little too focused? I dunno.

Yeah I notice that every time I watch it. It’s almost unsettling 😆

@@BigBoris Yeah the lighting is totally different or something, but in all fairness its over in a second and you're back in the action

That's a huge part of why they were so successful, if you compare them to other films from that time period, there was really nothing at all like the them being made.

I was there. And yes, mind = blown

I'm jealous of everyone who was able to experience this cause we're starting to hit a cap for visuals and we're consistently nailing reality, making a new experience very rare these days

That's basically why it was such a phenomenon.

I was 7 when the original Star Wars came out and I remember seeing it for the first time in vivid detail. Now when I watch Star Wars I'm able to reach back and get a taste of the awe and magic I experienced as a kid.

Exactly !!! Nowadays with cg's everywhee, it kinda takes away the movie magic.

@@iodineclip strange how you say that in a channel that breathes CGi

iodineclip at least we still have directors like Nolan who go with practical effects as much as possible.

God bless the editors that maintain the magic between practical and vfx 🙏🏽

Special effects ARE non-cgi, pyrotechnics for example. Cgi and stuff done on a computer after shooting for example are visual effects.

Matt I heard they put a shoe in there too

Matt but did u see the spaceship

Ur profile pic looks like a 🥔

Tianjie Lu do not disrespect Matt the great

@@madmonkee1176 his profile pic is made by the best cgi game of the century

True. I always think that even without the huge legacy those three movies would still be fantastic science fiction.

I prefer the prequels.

@@Satan-lb8pu I threw up a little.

@@Reticuli I'm aware of the effect I have on people.

And for this time

Geddy Lee.

"I am a Teddy like my father before me"- Wicket W. Warrick

Jeddy>Jedi

Oh hey I'm a Jeddy.

ITS WITH AN I NOT AN E, JEDE.

Yeah these hosts are obnoxious morons.

@@pl3459 They're litteraly the people than run the channel

P L uhh that’s a bit much

nobody cares nerds

Mind that they are CGI Artists not Film makers from the 80s

I wonder if today's generation appreciates that?

308328928 I do and most people in my school as well

@David Simms yeah if you don't care about the story you can say that

@@user-hc9qv9yb9m Sadly, they do not. I am one of the few 'GenZ's' that appreciates classic and old-fashioned art. Other people are too stuck up in their Tik Toks to appreciate anything other than mindless social media.

@David Simms I agree

Not if you have the VHS still! 👌

Han shot first!

Wait what? 7:46

@@jsweizston5410 He actually futzed with the VHS version, even before the so-called "Special Edition" VHS release.

@@jsweizston5410 Yeah, even the original VHS has been messed with and had some stuff added. The original in cinema version has never been publicly released in any reasonable quality. Harmy's Despecialized version is the closest we have.

I have always had a HUGE admiration for the patience of those who work in stop motion/animation. Counter656 is a RU-vidr that I watch that does really cool videos with stop motion.

It's extraordinary to see some animator's out there that still use the older film techniques. In doing so new ideas can still come about

The Platinum Tugboat then you need to see ray harryhausen who did all the animation for the sinbad/clash of the titans/the best of 20,000 leagues/ Jason and the Argonauts/and many more .

And consider, ILM was created for this movie. Everybody thought Lucas could not pull it off... and he couldn't with what was the current SOTA. It has been argued that ILM is Lucas' greatest accomplishment, not Star Wars.

@@alexandermckay8594 honestly i dont think thats much of an arguement. starwars is just a great demo of what they could do

Daniel Larsson It was stylistically designed to be that way, and they couldn’t undo it, but they could diminish the effects of it.

thetwopointslow what are you talking about?:) the blade flying off the hilt was not a mistake :)

Great inginuity

@@danielscorner It's a meme.

@@Harrierish That's not what a meme is.

In my opinion it really makes these movies even more magical. In the older days you had to use creative means to get things exactly how they wanted it to be.

Great artists create great art regardless of the tools at their disposal!

I would postulate that it is not despite but BECAUSE of all this. There is a wonderful saying I think is deeply true. 'Art through adversity'. Also limitations are a huge powerhouse when it comes to creativity. Look at the things coming out of Wakaliwood. Where there is a need there is a way.

And those movies were much, much better than these heavily cgi’d ones we get now. Films back then especially Star Wars were so innovative with how they created the visual effects. Sure it took quite some time and CGI really does slow down the process, but despite that these old films knew what it took to capture an audiences attention

Explains why the movies were 3 years apart until now.

WHO AND WHERE BRO

nice story

Damn that’s insanely nice

Jim Shealy That's a DOPE story. Honestly people have no idea this thing was done in a warehouse in Van Nuys. The whole world shifted on it's axis from that spot. It's like a holy site.

That is so sick

If Clinton hadn't seen the original Star Wars movies, they'd have to evict him from the premises

Yes yru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-49wtfLGDyHA.html

Leo Montano but maybe not the prequels.

While I think this is a cool idea, the Star Wars films had an entire team of people that were the best at what they did for each of these techniques. As well, maybe I'm off base here, but I don't think stop motion is really in Corridor's wheel house of experience.

@@ASpaceGhostFC2C Well, nothing's impossible and I think they actually might do that. They got the basic idea behind that and they might know someone who is like Pro in old school technology.

I'm sure they could get some patreon support for a project like that.

@@williamzebub3252 hey I'm all for it, I'd love to see it happen, and you're probably right.

I have. Sortof. Built a motion control rig in blender that moved the camera while the model stayed still. Pain in the rear to get working right.

Practical fx = good CGI (when used right) = super good

practical almost always looks better.. but these days it's almost always a lot more expensive too...Like Jurassic Park teaches, a mix of practical with visual is the best modern day combo. Especially using practical for closeups.

@@shadowproductions969 not really a lot of puppets look really bad and cheese

@@shadowproductions969 yeah CGI should be used only with physically impossible scenes, whereas practical should be used in close-ups. Look at Christopher Nolan's interstellar for the best example of this.

Its the birth of visual effects. Not practical.

was looking for this

Right? What the fuck was that, Wren??

@@rkstevenson5448 Don't want to be that guy, but I will anyway. Technically, that could be a correct pronunciation as the Jedi stem from the ancient Jedai religion, so Jedi would have a shorter "i" sound that Jedai

Jeddy beans

@@rkstevenson5448 Fu*subscribe*k

No. They used quite a few very old and traditional effects; Rotoscoping was about a 70 years old technique by then. Stop motion, also. Blue screening was almost 40 years old or more. The innovation, was using computer controlled cameras to repeat shots,

agfagaevart no one fucking cares lmao

@@Theta-411 No one like you cares, but you still read my post AND then you replied! :-0 Idiot.

@@agfagaevart i dont think star wars would be as great if those guys didnt invent the first motion tracking camera

ACB Films, that cannot be correct. Alchemy was a false 'science', as it was based on little or no actual science, which is why alchemy did not work. It becomes science when the practitioner understands how things actually work, so can plan processes and accurately predict their outcome. It was pure science that was used by the visual artists in the original Star Wars....not at all 'alchemy'.

Because it’s a running gag

I got triggered when he said Jeddy lol

At least he didn't say Jeedai... *uncoils amphistaff*

LMFAO 😂 because it generates Commenters

Did you know that's exactly how we pronounce jedi in Italy? For us instead you're pronunciation is weird

Clint:👁️👄👁️

@El-ahrairah Funner fact, most of us don't care that you think that.

Oh wow. I didn't know that. It's always bothered me

El-ahrairah I can second that. The little CGI add ins always throw me off and it’s terrible

That's back when good art *wasn't* subjective.

Halcion Koenig I mean...art is always subjective. A huge part of what makes it art is that people experience it differently. I think what isn’t subjective is that these artists were extremely talented.

A massive star wars fan you say? Well than I think you might like this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ey_EjSzKFWQ.html it's a video by the Hacksmith in which they test their real-life retractable plasma lightsaber (Over 2200 degrees celsius, 4000 fahrenheit)

In a previous one they say haideo kojima

The people who coded software to make CGI are geniuses too, any idea how much work is put into computer graphics? I'd contend that, including the work put into the software, CGI FX requires more workhours than old skool.

Paul Freedman obviously. Nobody disagrees with that

Actually I'd contest that, I think many do NOT realise. Many think computers automagically render everything.

​@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Yes if you include the original coding it MAY take more workhours. But including the original coding would be an idiotic thing to do. If the original coding gets to be taken into account when every vfx artist boots up there 10,000$ program that allows them to do so much crap without effort, then we should also start bringing up the building of the tools used to build models, the tools used to build those tools, the paint brushes being constructed for the paintings and the process of creating paint itself. The chemical processes in creating film to begin with, as well as all the work that went into making cameras. It is like saying that listening to a book on audible is more difficult than reading it just because more human ingenuity (in sum) was needed to deliver the audio book. No it is clearly easier to listen to the audio book. It requires less work on your part because more work was done beforehand. So quit acting like the modern vfx artist does more work than the classic ones. Its a nonsense argument with no legs. And yes computers do "automagically render" quite a lot. Key frames and chroma key are two things that took me a day to learn how to do with a free software. Those two things alone make it possible for me to do things with a phone camera and a few hours than it used to be possible to do in days with huge effects stages. So please get off of it. Modern convenience was built for us by our betters and assuming that you get to take credit for all their work every time you use a smoke effect to make a fart joke on youtube that looks better than most movies made in the 20th century is pure hubris.

@@kindairish2562 Just to show how big the industry is.

Perhaps the archives are incomplete

Clint said he saw Edge of Tomorrow during a recent video as well. I was shocked, lol.

I can’t find the original anywhere except for my dads old vhs tape

back in the day when it was first released, to us, it looked epic.

@@rogueelement1176 still does. To this day The Battle Of Endor is probably one of the best space battles ever created, if not, the GOAT of space battles.

@@00Mindi00 I don't want to be that guy glorifying all the CGI, but the battle over Coruscant is a strong contender.

Ironically, they actually used computers to control the cameras. Otherwise these layered shots would not have been possible.

you mean return of the jedY

When I realized that they were the cardboard Minecraft guys, my mind literally exploded

@@vargaroli9421 yeah, me too!

Ok. I am gonna watch it. Be right back Edit : 2013 - 3:04 Edit Again : 2014 - 4:00 Those are the time guys . Damn

they're in 2012 also I'm pretty sure

And 2012

thats why these movies have ages so very well unlike CGI.

ikr, like we today are amazed by these films, think about what audiences back then thought of the films

@@iainwmacintosh makes me wish I got to see it pre computer days

anegwa then again, today we can view the films whenever wherever and watch the bts alongside

@@iainwmacintosh - I was in the audience back then, 8 years old for Star Wars and 11 for Empire, and they blew us away. They were literally the only movies at the time that looked like that, true one-of-a-kind experiences. I'll never forget how magical it all was.

Those 3 movies being the og Star Wars movies. Nothing more, nothing less.

I was legit surprised when he said he’d seen it.

Nah, he also said he saw Edge of Tomorrow in a past recent video as well, lol. I was a bit surprised there too :D

Everyone's reaction: No way!

But DID he ... did he REALLY see them? The looks on his face say he really has not, or it has been a LONG time ago.

consider that all they need is just a little bit of CG (color correction and motion blurring, and a bit of adjustment to the rotoscoping effects) to make them perfect. compare that to the effects in most other movies of it's era, which tend to fall flat quite consistently these days.

ROTJ actually fails in two scenes, hangar looks totally fake before attack on second death star, and destruction of Executor was not good. And that is with all the additions made in special edition.

Because most were practical FX

@@AG.Floats its hard to call 80s greenscreen practical effect. I am talking about this scene. i.stack.imgur.com/L8OcJ.jpg and crashing could be doen with more explosions, instead of one huge ball of flame. 7:02 here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-f38a6pYL_jE.html You can even see outlines of many spaceships.

O wowowowoowowowowow Yas

These "experts" even missed that one. :-0

WTF

@@agfagaevart they explained how hard it is don't insult them by adding " to experts

How about AT-AT "falling over". I mean you can see the stick here 15:16

Me too

Nice spot! Also play that shot at 2x speed to see the model falling over closer to the real-time in which it was shot :D

LOL!

If that's ur fav MOVIE then u are a plastic fan of star wars...DOUCHE...and it's JEDI not JEDDIE

ASTRON O ASTRAN you’re actually a fucking potato

@@avinier325 search on google "define sarcasm"

Koryo Or3o He’s joking about the joke.

Honestly, the AT-ATs never bothered me. That jumpcut definitely did, and the AT-STs still kill me, but I'm good with the AT-ATs.

For me it was weird when i was younger, and then when i learned hwo they did it, AT-AT, AT-ST lightsaber and all, it became irrelevant to see the flaw. My child amazement was replaced by technical amazement :D

@@shorebreakers96 Fair enough! Honestly, it's the same for me in a lot of ways. I love how good modern CGI looks, but there is something attractive about those retro special effects.

Baktillus the cut’s not bad, I always noticed it but it helps if you imagine it’s caused by the sudden instantaneous snap as the saver ignites. I’ve always preferred the way this lightsaber snaps instantly to life than the way modern movies show them sliding out like a cock or something.

@@shorebreakers96 Same for me. Instead of having the childhood 'magic' ruined I just became more and more appreciative of the amazing technical achievements of the whole trilogy. The sequence in ROTJ where Wedge and the Falcon fly into the Death Star innards chased by TIEs is one of my favourite VFX sequences in all of film.

Then why did mark Hamilton seem surprised when it happened

I chopped my father's hand off with a stick once. We didn't have no fancy buttons or nothing. They came out a few years later. We just had to suck it up and commit.

@@jamesmcvittie4635 He's not, in that particular take he looks over to where the Emperor would be standing, laughing maniacally. Same with the ESB shot that follows-- Anytime the blade's meant to make contact with a person, they release it so they're not smacking a stuntman with a stick at full speed.

gabe Stoll that movie was ahead of its time

Oh yes! I actually remember my version of the film having some bonus material that showed how thay did some of the visual effects. :D

Please do this one. Fantastic animation.

That was a MONSTER of a movie, at its time.

I absolutely loved that movie, i might rewatch it again

So incredible how it still holds up!

Ikr

Yeah that was weird tho in my country (hungary) we pronounce "Jedi" exactly like this.

What the hell, nobody said anything!

It's a running gag I believe that they do

@@szolar1 hahaha exactly

I'd say both Maul fight scenes: Against just Qui-Gon in the desert, and against both him and Obi-Wan in Naboo.

Anakin/Darth Vader vs Obi-Wan is the best fight in the entire franchise, I'll love to see that

@@Gririan you probably haven't seen Obi-Wan VS Maul in the Rebels show.

Yes pls

Catzilla damn, I just spotted that

ET Shotenkey I’m pretty sure it cuts when that a laser flash blinds the screen.

@@n8wulfcommander207 it's a hidden cut, correct. also, they did mention it in a previous episode

Quite a bit of Star Wars sets and effects are inspired by 2001.

I really like floating pen effect so simple and yet satisfying

IT WAS SAID THAT YOU WOULD DESTROY THE SITH NOT JOIN THEM

Totally and then compare with 1982 Tron!

Y E S So many people have forgotten about Tron Legacy. I'd love to see a video over it

@@SonjaTheDork We had here one, but only with the scene on the beginning with his young son because of the bad CGI face, nothing more. Pretty stupid and unfair for that movie.

I am still blown away at how good grievous looks.

The special editions are awful however

All the prequels were visually impressive. Because Lucas was always comfortable delegating that work to talented artists. They fall apart at the screenplay and directorial levels. I think the main creative difference between the two trilogies is that the first was a love letter to the pulp science fiction of the early 20th century (Leigh Brackett doesn't get enough credit for some of Empire's most inspired choices imo) and the second is too in love with its own overwrought lore and self importance as a franchise.

I too saw that.

we are gonna actually go back in time ;)

Yes lok

Oops

it is stated that 2020 will not come. something called 2019 2 will come instead