Correct me if I'm wrong. In the past,I think sonny set him up. He was sent to kill one man,But instead he's jumped by many. He killed em all and soon cops arrived. He's arrested,and gained the name Harwood butcher. I'd be pissed off if my boss does that to me.
But it's still pointless because Lance will still team up with Sonny to kill Tommy, but Vic will most likely team up with Tommy and they would not hesitate to kill both Sonny and Lance together!
@@madkhaliqfarhan Hmm. I give him two weeks. One if he screws up. But in here, Gonzalez is no longer going to be blackmailed by Diaz and Lance probably screw up on his own and Victor won't be able to do anything about it. But yeah, who knows?
Vic didn't get saved by Vance for not knowing about the Ambush but Tommy did he got sharp sense and have his revolver out and Vic knows that prepare his own Deagle out for safety and join in fight along side Tommy his guards that is a true moment Crossover character team
Vic and Lance are brother Lance always care for his brother after he avenge his death killing Diaz this doesn't change a fact Lance would betray because Lance would care for both money and his brother but he prioritize his brother first if he dies he would care for the money to continue his legacy
Vic never died, he respawned to the nearest hospital.. Also,. seeing this video makes me feel good because I still play VCS on my PSP and VC on my PC. Good to see one of my favourite video game protagonists alive even if he died in the story..
So, in that universe, Tommy would not own Vice City, but he would have a lot of power and money, possibly after gaining the family's trust and doing more jobs.
@@Steven_1773 I think the premise would've likely turned out the same. Judging by the dialog in the final mission, Tommy knew Sonny had set him up. So he may have played it quietly and sticked to expanding his hold on Vice City at ease, since Diaz got arrested. Of course, with Harry and Lee alive, Tommy's plans of taking over Vice City would't come to fruitation as the two were likely brought in for Sonny to keep his tabs on Tommy. So in my idea, I imagine Tommy's take over would come in easy, but the hardest part is to expand without the Forellis keeping him in check so Harry and Lee had to go later on. I'm sure because of this, Sonny would have a reason to come down to Vice City and all would proceed to go as it is. But only this time, it's either a peace agreement, full blown shootout, or an elaborate trap to either have Sonny arrested or killed
I honestly can't imagine an alternative time line when he doesn't get revenge on the Forellis for setting him up before, though. As @@lewafflez5356 said, though, it would be a bit less straight forward. It would be interesting to have something like that to play, though. Or at least like an alternative movie of some sort
@@lewafflez5356 I feel the quest chain would revolve around finding a way to get the cocaine out of Vice and made to money and working a number of jobs to distribute the white gold while Tommy tells Rosenberg about the Harwood butcher incident on how what was supposed to killing just one shitstain turned to killing several guys
The details in this are amazing. Obviously you have Vercetti’s goon noticing the men behind the crates and signaling Tommy, along with Tommy motioning to Victor. But once Vic gets in the Maverick, you can hear a voice line from Vice City Stories, further tying them together. Also at the beginning, you see the Colonel give Rosenberg the invitation to his yacht party. So cool.
This is my imagination, but I think Vic was using a fake voice during the deal and had Lance keep the Helicopter rotors running during the deal because he was afraid of wire tapping. He was probably getting paranoid about the FIB cracking down on him and deny that it was him on any voice recording.
@@NotBen101it wouldn't be out of line for Vic to do that. There's a mission in VCS where you destroy a bunch of antennas from DEA because they were spying on you. Vic isn't an idiot, so i believe he would be smart enough to do that
02:48 Tommy : I'm not seating on the white gold,the white gold is seating on me!!! Sonny : TOMMMMMMMYY...........You scared me...you got me!!! Tommy : *YESSSSSSS*
@Đɇ𝙰𝚝𝚑_ꉔꋬꋪꋊꋬꍌꏂ The MP5K used in this video is the VC model. The LCS model has a grey color and bent frontgrip while the VCS model is just a slightly edited version of the VC MP5.
If any future gta remaster/remake happens, rockstar should do it themselves because grove street games (the studio that made the trilogy remasters) are incompetent and useless
I lowkey wish they’d do this for the Trilogy. Cause not gonna lie, it’s a good story change and they could without a doubt hire someone who sounds close enough to Tommy (or early 2000s Ray Liota)
@@truegamercroatia People will remember soon enough, when they see him walking down the streets of their neighborhoods it will be GOOD for business :)))
So... On this timeline, CJ meets Sonny at the Caligula's Casino and travels to Liberty City to kill Salvatore Leone... "That was my money Cj, MY MONEY!"
@@qq5847 Well, the Forellis were the strongest family before Sonny died. If Sonny hadn't been killed, it's highly likely that the Forellis would still be the strongest Italian mob and therefore Johnny Sindacco would have turned to Sonny to fund the casino.
@@skate6788 yes but how did he do the animation? I know how to use blender and Maya (some unreal) but I am just assuming he used a mo-cap? I do agree, I suck at Rigging and animation
Could you imagine an alternate version of Vice City where not only did Vic survive, but he had the character development he received in Vice City Stories? That would be AWESOME.
I think Louise dying was a big turning point for Vic. Without her he must have got lost in the drug business and became an addict himself, maybe because of depression. That’s the only explanation I can think of when it comes to his downfall, because in VCS Vic was a stud and the most morally correct protagonist of the GTA series so far
@@GoGetYourShinebox it was hinted that in Vice City, Vic was basically retired from the underground crime world activities and only joined this last drug deal with the Forellis because Lance persuaded him into it. But then again, him being an addict would explain why he looks so washed up, hunched, and can barely walk straight. So man's probably had only gotten his life just a tad bit bearable and got over Louise's death, and was also doing well in getting rid of his addiction at that time. So it's such a shame that the one time he chose to appease his whiny little brother, he gotten himself killed. If he really did survived, he would have probably moved out of Vice City to start over clean and legit.
I think someone in comments section of a video on this topic on youtube presented an alt scenario where Lance got killed instead of Vic. I like this scenario as the game will normally play out the same as the original but instead of Lance, there will be Vic by your side up until the rub out mission. I like to imagine once Vic avenges the death of Lance in this scenario, he distances himself from the criminal world despite Tommy offering him a place by his side. But he does return to help Tommy deal with Sonny as a personal favor.
I played Vice City for the first time in 2007. I've ALWAYS wanted that deal to go well, I just couldn't get over the fact of it being an ambush. You made my childhood dream come true, I never expected that someday I would be seeing this. Thanks, I love it.
Bro all u need to do to make a deal go thru is invest a million into some cocaine and you got ur big shot buddy. I believe in you. Dont live with regrets son, it wasnt ur fault there were other plans down there in vice. You got a chance to make it right my man, go out there and buy some coke!
In this timeline, everything would keep on the same way: Tommy (now with Harry, Lee, the Vance Brothers and maybe Ken and the Colonel) would start his drug empire anyway, but with an easier start.
It really puts a smile on me when 2 GTA protagonist from 2 different games work together for once. (not counting the other protagonist from the gta 4 dlc)
Vinny cocked his head to the right, Vic's left, and Vic understood it right away. Allowing the Vance brothers to stay brothers and not just Lance Vance, and for the deal to go as smooth as it did.
If this would have really happened Tommy would have remained just one of Sonny's henchmen for his whole life and never took over Vice City and eventually Sonny might have tried to set him up and get him killed again just like before Tommy went to jail.
@@hybridAbsol if the deal was successful Tommy would have returned to Liberty City to give Sonny the cocaine and if he would have stayed in Vice City he wouldn't have took over the city for himself cause he would have just continued to follow Sonny's orders. The reason he took over the town was that he was left free to do anything he wanted to get the coke and Sonny's money back, so he eventually decided to keep everything for himself. So no, things would have changed considerably like I said in the first comment.
@@thestrong2401 Tommy aint stupid, he knows what Vice City is all about, he would setup business there and then, just to annoy Sonny again, according to plan, Tommy is a slick bastard
The story could go either way. Either like what you said or maybe somehow he finds out Sonny was the one behind the set up 15 years before, but how he would deal with these situations is still up to our imagination.
This 1 guy was able to create an alternative ending to a 19 year old game and was able to do it with the old game engine while Rockstar Games, a multibillion dollar company with around 2,000 developers + GSG couldn't even properly remaster their old games.
@@acclipse9262 kinda hoping it would not cuz rumors has it they gonna set it in Vice City. and dang I friggin love GTA Vice City and would love it given the same love San Andreas and GTA V got. Although knowing Rockstar's latest business practices, that kinda seemed more and more unlikely now which is such a shame.
@@notkyoze 1) War Drum Studios has 21 staff members. It should have been 100 or more. 2) Rockstar and Take 2 supervised funded ect to they wear involved. 3) Rockstar had less than 1000 when making the OG trilogy. They have 2,000 + now. Do your research
Man, just hearing the intro music brings back a whole flood of memories. Vice City, despite its dated graphics, is still one of my all-time favorite games.
heh, these last few replies. I think the original comment was just making light of how this could have been the plot in an alternate dimension where R* made the games different. *If the last 2 replies were jokes themselves, I figured that, but just making sure.*
With this start-up, Tommy, Harry, and Lee began the Vice City franchise of the Forelli Family, forging ties with the resurgent Vance brothers crime family (plus their affiliates in Little Havana and gun runner Phil Cassidy). With the toppling of the Diaz gang by VCPD detectives, the Forelli and Vance combined syndicate took over the city relatively quickly. I just hope Vic was able to get Lance the help he needed.
Tommy vercetti eventually cuts his ties with the forelli family knowing their responsibility in his imprisonment.. lance never betrayed tommy.. the story ends with sonny forelli attempting and failing to kill tommy.. tommy vercetti, alongside lance and Vic then kills sonny forelli
quite impressive! you're so underrated man really! I like the way you animated everyone accurately based upon the cutsceen and specially I like the part where tommy and vic do their business as well as being aware of the surroundings was pretty accurately done ,I never expected anyone to be that good in doing that with accuracy good job! good job!