My last purchase of 2020 was a Red Pioneer X. I had been looking for it for almost the entire year before I could find one at "list" price. It was worth the wait!
Thanks Tobias, especially for explaining the specifics for the 2021 line up. Info like that makes financial/collecting planning easier for less experienced collectors, like myself.
The red alox looks great. I've only got three alox knives so far, all silver. I like the new orange color too! Thanks for giving us a look at your new pioneer x, Tobias.
That's a nice collection shown @10:46 . I don't own a single orange knife, but I might make an exception with the 2021 Victorinox Pioneer X. I had fun, thanks for showing.
Glad you found your Red Pioneer X you were looking for. I like the colors but I think I'll just stick with boring silver/grey. Thanks again for another good show Tobias!
The grey is at least $10 less and just as functional. I'm reminded of the old joke... If you're going to buy a Corvette It has to be red, because everybody knows a red Corvette is faster!
Congratulations with your Red Pioneer X Alox, it's a marvelous edc! I'm not sure I personally wil like the tiger orange as much as the red alox. Thank you very much for the stickers! they arrived today and it was as exciting as a christmascard. I'm very happy with them. Also Kitty should have some nice treats as thank you for the nice greatings. So that leaves me with wishing you a very nice day and untill the next video!
Glad you enjoyed the stickers. I'm thinking about the orange but I'm also very much on the fence. As cool as it is, I might just get the Classic SD. I've got a pretty extensive collection of those. My real focus for collecting purpose is "Red Alox"
@@KnifeChatswithTobias In my opinion the red alox is the nicest by far. When you're fumbling in a drawer for a knife per excample it sticks out between other stuff. so that's an advantage too.
I have used that Victorinox can opener screwdriver tip on a Phillips screw before, but I didn't know it was designed to be a #2 P equivalent. I definitely need to get an alox Victorinox. Oooh, Tiger Orange 🐅, Yes
Sounds like the production staff wanted a treat! As always, I enjoyed the video. I also have the red alox Knife Center Pioneer X. Been waiting for a red Farmer X. Victorinox added scissors to the Farmer. Or you could think of it as adding a saw to the Pioneer X. Either way, you'd end up with the same tool set.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias I'd totally buy an "Explorer X" with the old style gray plastic & glass magnifying glass! Even if the old style magnifying glass cost an extra $50! Perhaps though I'm sentimental & biased. I remember my father showing me all the tools on his original Victorinox Champion as a very young child. I distinctly remember the magnifying glass (I had to be around 3 or 4 because I remember my brother crawling). As I got older & enrolled in Cub Scouts & later Boy Scouts, I remember him always carrying a Victorinox SwissChamp (He'd lost the original Champion by then). To this day, he still daily carries a Victorinox SwissChamp with the gray plastic & glass lens magnifying glass. He's the reason I got into knives. Even though I own many high end pieces, Victorinox still holds an extremely high sentimental value to me.
This is my favourite SAK. I have a silver one in my ‘man bag’ and a red, Knife Centre one on my desk. I also have the red Alox 2018 Ltd Ed set of SAKs. My briefcase has the Climber, which I see as the Celador equivalent of the Pioneer X.
The orange is really nice. I'm still on the fence on which one to get. But no doubt about it, the Pioneer X is great knife in any color and the "Tiger Orange" is really eye catching. It is one of the best colors they've come out with.
When I first got my Woodsman, the instructions that came with it, listed the can opener tip as a Phillips screwdriver instead of "Small Screwdriver" I was amazed at how useful and practical it was.
My edc is the victorinox farmer x a great allrandr edc love it then it is the victorinox fieldmaster with plus scales great poickit knives love them thank you for sharing this with us love the Red scales👌
@@KnifeChatswithTobias you have had this 7 months now what do you think ? Are do you like the scale tools ? It would be interesting to know what you think is best By the way your cat is so nice he is a lovely looking cat snow white ❄️😻
@@name5949 I'll pass along your kind words to Kitty. (He is a She, by the way). I've only carried the Pioneer X a few times. I mostly bought it as I collect the Red Alox knives when I can find/afford them. I do like the scale tools. Well, I like the toothpick! I like the plus scales as they have a pen and I do find the pen quite handy. My normal carry is an Explorer with plus scales.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias yes I've noticed the black explorer in a few of your videos i also love the explorer with that fantastic inline driver what i would really like is the victorinox ranger but with the driver on the back in other words i would like the victorinox fieldmasder with the new file and plus scales now that would be the perfect Swiss army knife for me just like the older version the victorinox craftsman i really don't know why victorinox stopped the craftsman for the handyman they have the names mixed up how can you call it the victorinox handyman with out a driver🤔??? So the victorinox craftsman should have been the handyman or take the corkscrew off the handyman and put the driver on the back i also like the corkscrew on the back of my Swiss army knifes but not as much for a DIY projects work EDC poickit tool i know the corkscrew is great for the mini i glass driver and undoing knots but the victorinox handyman should definitely have the driver on the back in my opinion I'm using 4 different styles of Swiss army knifes 1 the victorinox Swiss champ 2 the' victorinox farmer x 3 the victorinox fieldmasder 4 the victorinox cadet there the ones in Daley use every day I'll have one or the other but i would really appreciate if victorinox made every Swiss army knife the same one with the driver and one with the corkscrew to the same of each Swiss army knife with the only difference between both a driver and a corkscrew because each person wants the same Swiss army knife just like the victorinox fieldmasder and the victorinox hunsman the victorinox tinker and the victorinox Spartan the victorinox super tinker and the victorinox climber all the way up to the victorinox Swiss champ if victorinox would have kept doing it this way it would have been fantastic thanks again Tobias and kitty 😺👍
I'm not a big fan of alox knives, but this comes the closest to changing my mind. I still prefer the Super Tinker and probably always will, but this is a welcome addition to my EDC rotation.
I think the major draw of the Alox is the heavier main blade. Some like that it is thinner and /or more durable. For me the "thinner" is really unnoticeable in the pocket. And as for more durable? I don't buy it. You need to really try to break the cellidor covers on a SAK.
I am dying to get anything Alox in red as it is my favorite color. However, nobody sells the red Pioneer X Alox in my country. And probably the shipping costs from ordering in Knife Center might destroy my wallet. Haha. That said, congrats on finding a red Pioneer X. It is amazing to use. Even just for the scissors alone.
I was upset to see the change in models for the annual alox scales. I was trying to build a collection of cadets with the annual scales. However I do yet have the folding hunter so maybe I'll pick that one up with this year's scales and hope they return with the cadets next year
I guess Pioneer X sales surpassed Pioneer sells and that is why they cahnged to the X. The Hunter Pro change may be because they want to make more sales off that product line.
I also collected the pioneers in the limited edition so now I’m gonna continue with X , pretty annoyed about it but hey ho nowt I can do about it 👍 p.s. nice collection Tobias 👍
I think the people most annoyed are the Cadet collectors. First they swap the nail file and then the just skip it entirely. (of course some folks liked the change in the nail file)
I'm a big fan of the Cadet. I'm one of the weird-ohs who liked the "Stipled Nail file" instead of the current grooved one. My bet is somebody like Knife Center or Swiss Knife Store will come out with a limited run "Orange Cadet" as it missed the line up.
The can opener tip is usually a good enough Phillips driver for me - but sometimes, for very thight or recessed screws, the Tinker's version works where the can opener has no chance. But the best is probably the inline 3D version - it just takes up a lot of space, and is not available on Alo models (except for mods, of course).
Hi tobias, nice video as always. I recently got a 4 blade pioneer and i noticed the blades, mainly the main one, are a lot more crooked compared to the classic red plastic handle victorinox knives. I understand this is to avoid blade rub, but i was wondering if this is usual for 4 bladed camp knives, so i ask you since i don't have any. It doesn't really bother me, but now i'm just curious. Thanks for your answer.
Yes, it is very common for camp knives to have the blades bent or "crinked" in order to get everything to fit. In most cases it really doesn't hamper the function of the knife once the blade or tool is deployed.
Damn I wish they would reintroduce the 84mm scissors.. I love that size for everything non outdoor related.. fits my pocket without notice so well.. a Walker (love the saw) my 9 times out of 10 EDC would be so much better a Walker-X.. just pulled the trigger on a small tinker.. the bigger one rubs a bit to much in my pocket at work.. of course on a real outdoors hike I carry the Farmer along with a fixed blade..
You're not alone. And I tell you what. I'd love to see them swap the Saw on the Walker/Lumberjack with Scissors. They could call the version with the saw the "Lumber Jack" and the Version with the Scissors "The Walker"
I currently carry the Victorinox Supper Tinker as my every day carry. I love the Pioneer-X Red ALOX knife and have been shopping for one. I enjoyed your video. Does Knife Center always engrave their name / logo on the backs of Victorinox ALOX knifes?
I know what you mean ref the red alox and the pioneer x. I picked up a special edition berry red regular pioneer but wanted the x version too. Had to wait and then got a black one from DLT at a good price. I've really only carried the solo regularly (in a slip) and the green farmer a few times with no wear on the colors yet. I wonder how a black one will wear as that will be a real contrast with what lies beneath?
yeah..I agree....they could have named it Pioneer Plus because if you hold scissors opened to a X like a cross it makes a plus sign too. :-) I love the way the alox look but without the corkscrew and the scale slots for the toothpick, twizer, and or pen...it just don't seem like a Victorinox.
Hello Tobias. Love it, any SAK video makes me happy. Alox or not. Is it possible to remove the Knife center ad from the back same as on the normal red? All the best.
You can remove it - but only together with the red... You could cover up the rest of the scales and polish the engraving plate to silver, but I don't think that wouldlook better. (Unfortunately, Victorinox requires a shop logo on colored Alox knives...)
I've used this style of reamer on several occasions to drill into wood. The angle gives it additional strength. As always the key is to have a pointy tip but not so pointy as to make it easy to bend.
Ther Farmer has the saw. The Pioneer X has the the Scissors. I think the one with scissor and the saw is the Farmer X. I would think the alox will warm up after a minute or two or would be warm depending on where it was on your body. I guess it would be the same as with the US Mil-K 818 all stainless utility knives. I never really thought about it but metal can definitely get cold and hot!
I don't know which shops lied to you that they have a red Pioneer X in stock before you got there, but I wouldn't trust them. Victorinox normally only makes the Pioneer X in slver only (just like most of their Alox knives, with only a few Cadet/Pioneer exceptions in the US + the limited editions). If a shop wants to have it in another color (they can only chose red, black, blue and dark green nowadays), they have to order at least 100 pieces from Victorinox, and have their shop logo printed on them. The Pioneer X was made in red for a few shops only, mainly German and Swiss ones. In the US, only Swiss Bianco had them (without key ring), and now KnifeCenter.
How about pioneer plus for the name? The pioneer here in the UK originally was called the sturdy boy and that's a name I won't argue with! I do prefer the original look with the old cross and red! I don't think it is possible to buy a better, stronger built model than pioneer?
They bring me joy. Even when i pass them on to others, they still bring me joy. But yeah, I also reinvest what little money I make from the channel into more knives for the channel so it is a never ending circle. (You are correct "what profits?")
@@miklospinter Yeah, I'm 7 not 56 yr old Fabricator / Construction hand and a collector /( user) of scout knifes.... good point... Maybe I have it upside down .. I might be trying to use it in the closed position...
