Video Out | Connecting a Commodore Amiga 1200 to a Modern TV / Monitor 

+Fabio Solazzo You are welcome! Thanks for watching. It does work great and the price is right. I have one connected to my A1200 and LCD monitor in my office and use it all the time. -- Bill

ha ha, thanks!

Thank you MrSlipstream! Glad you enjoyed it. Best, -- Bill

Thanks so much for the kind words and the comments Foebane. Really appreciate it and am glad you are enjoying the videos. More to come!

Aw, thank you very much David! This is a old video, but still fun to throw it on. I am still using the cheap SCART to HDMI converter.

Robert Jankovič Thanks for the kind words Robert. glad you enjoyed it! Say hi to the Czech Republic. I love it there. Very beautiful country! -- Bill

+Vincent GR That's really cool Vincent! Would love to see a photo of your device. Way to go! Thanks for the kind words.

The Guru Meditation I only have a video on my channel playing slam tilt with some friends, I have to take more photos though from the tv but next month when I'll return home. Here are some pics :-) partsfromthepast.blogspot.gr/ imageshack.com/i/3ua1200fastj If you want I can give the schematics for the scart.

Thanks a lot! We have lots of new videos in the que so you will have no shortage of Amiga videos to watch! -- Bill

Nice! This setup is working very well for me. Next I have to get a SACRT cable for my C64!

Awesome Jean! The Indivision is great!

+Kenny O Thanks for the kind words Kenny! Yeah, can't wait to install that Indivision board. It looks so awesome. Didn't realize it will simulate scan lines too!

You are welcome! Thanks so much for the nice comment. Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers! -- Bill

+Qvverty Ha ha! Sounds like a plan. I wonder if you would get better backups with the RGB out???

+The Guru Meditation yes, there was an option to compress/increase capacity, but I wanted to be sure I can restore my backups w/o errors. I loved when I used to press PLAY and after a minute my vhs-floppy was there recorded, from VHS tape :) like C64 tape, but how modern solution - video backup, so many Megabytes xP www.leszczamiga.cba.pl/elektronika/vbs.gif - schematic diagram of such a device if you can't reach it, you could build it :]] cheers Guys...

+Qvverty Wow, wow, wow! That is incredible. Thanks for sharing @qvverty!

***** Thanks +Obraxis We put the links to the cable and SCART to HDMI box in the description, but it is difficult to see unless you scroll down. Here is the link: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D86UYBS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

Thanks for the super kind comment Charles! We really appreciate it. Sounds like you have done some very interesting projects. OpalVision on a 1200 - Love it!!! So glad this video got you back into the video craze. We have lots more Amiga Graphics and Video projects planned for this channel so stay tuned and thanks so much for the great comment. AMIGA4EVER!!! -- Bill

+JustWasted3HoursHere Thanks so much for watching JW3HH! We really appreciate it. Yeah, one of the reasons why NewTek chose the Amiga was certainly because it used standard TV timing signals. The system clock is 7.16 MHz which is 2x the NTSC color carrier frequency of 3.579 MHz which made it easy to sync the video signal, however I don't believe NewTek was very fond of Commodore as a company. Check out the demo of the video toaster we had at our local Amiga user group back in 1990. I will never forget that night. Enjoy and thanks again for the comment! -- Bill ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PztnHY4IMLc.html

+The Guru Meditation Yeah, as a company, Commodore was its own worst enemy. They should have put someone who actually _believed_ in the product in charge. Irving Gould and those other guys probably couldn't format a floppy if you asked them. They couldn't care less. Look what happened to Apple once Steve Jobs came back: His vision propelled Apple into the stratosphere. Those other corporate flunkies would have killed Apple long before. Anyway, I still have my DCTV (with its excellent DCTV Paint) in the closet (Couldn't afford a Toaster...or an Amiga 2000!) and it still works! Sort of a "poor man's Toaster" minus the 3D software. Thanks for the video, guys. JW3HH

Hi Spurious! Thanks for watching. I have also heard of people complaining about boxes like this, but I have to say this particular one combined with my Asus monitor works well for me. There is a small bit of "funky stuff" happening. For, example when I move the mouse the edges look a tad bit blurry, but I have not experienced any serious lag or poor frame rate like some people claim. It serves its purpose fine for me. I am not doing hardcore gaming, I do more productivity things, but I have played Arkanoid, Another World, Fairy Tale Adventure, Marble Madness, and a few others and it was fine. There could be some variation in build quality, and perhaps I got a "good one" but for under $50 USD it serves its purpose well for me, but that is just my opinion. Some people complain that they can't even use Workbench, but that certainly is not the case for me. Is there a particular game you want to play? Let me know and I will be happy to test it for you. Thanks! -- Bill

+A Bontsema Right on! Thanks for the comment and kind words. Glad you are resurrecting your 1200. Amiga4Ever!!!!!!!!!

It seems i already had the scart to rgb Amiga cable from way back , haha

+A Bontsema Get yourself a cf card full of games and that will be great for gaming.

***** Thanks for the comment ***** ! Wow, using this technique to connect a C64 to our modern TV is a great idea! We have to try that. Yes, Shadow of the Beast and other Amiga games never looked so good up on a big screen! Same goes for the demos. So cool!

I got mine from AmigaKit. Not sure where else you can get them

Just get a HDMI monitor and be sure.

Great question! Any is a strong word, but 99.99% of the monitors will work as it converts it to a standard 1920x1080 50 or 60 hertz signal

SCART signals are analogue while HDMI signals are digital, so the little box shown in the video is doing such conversion leaving the 15 khz requirement behind I suppose. This requires the right converter anyway, see www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SCART-TO-HDMI-CONVERTERS-TO-AVOID. A conversion could add some lags and picture won't be as sharp as using a proper, good quality (not scandex) scandoubler but it's way cheaper and it works.

That specific link is no longer valid, but just search SCART to HDMI converter on Amazon and you will find many options.

I know this is a very old question. But for those who might be looking these days. This converter is sold by many, and there is a lot of them on eBay for like 20-30$. Just look for those with the same design as the one on Amazon. And just read the description. It has to say RGB somewhere, if you buy a Scart to hdmi converter without RGB you will just get a completely distorted and unrecognizable image.

I buy it here i Germany on Amazon last Week. 32,90€ (38,70 US-Dollar). There are different Companys who sell it but i think its always the same Hardware.

+Damian Brown If your flat screen has a SCART connector you don't need the box - only the cable. However it would be interesting to compare the quality of the SCART input to upscaled HDMI. We don't have any monitors with SCART so we can't try it as SCART is very rare here in the US. We recorded the screen using an Atomos Ninja Blade HDMI recorder www.atomos.com/ninja-blade/ but you can also use something cheaper like the Elgato: www.amazon.com/Elgato-Capture-PlayStation-gameplay-1080p60/dp/B00MIQ40JQ/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1444054748&sr=8-8&keywords=hdmi+record

Thanks a lot!!! :D I'll check that out now!

Damian Brown Our pleasure. Good luck!

+Damian Brown Oh one thing. we used the Atomos to record the HDMI output, but for the analog RF and Composite outputs we used a BlackMagic Intensity Shuttle. It is supposed to be able to record HDMI also, but it wouldn't recognize the output of the SCART to HDMI box. The Atomos Ninja Blade and Elgato that we recommended to you are HDMI ONLY recorders.

I could reply to this :). I'm from Italy, so my 22" lg lcd (model m2262dp) have a scart connector. I was almost satisfied with it, but I tried this kind of adapter and the result is that in Workbench and in-game the screen looks better, the image is clean, the colours vivid. I compared this to another Amiga with Indivision to the same Lcd and the same setup and I have seen no difference. Just in case someone else would like to buy this adapter, thats mine: www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B00K55RMO2/ref=ya_aw_oh_pii?ie=UTF8&psc=1#productDescription_secondary_view_div_1444974944679

It is a bit of a mystery exactly how the magic black box works, but yes. When I change the resolution on the Amiga the box will convert it to 60hz over the HDMI. The signal is a bit "funky" though. my monitor recognizes it with no issue, but when I want to record or stream it I must run the signal through my Decimator. One note. If you upscale to 1080 with the box the image will be stretched to 16:9. You will have to correct this through your capture software or the settings on you monitor (if it is capable of that) Or you can live with a stretched image then you don't have to worry or you can send a lower resolution tyo the monitor that won't be stretched. -- Bill

interesting! thanks for the answer ;)

No problem. The box isn't perfect, but for for less than $50 it has done right by me especially since I am constantly switching between my 500, 1200, and 4000 during streams and recordings. It works with any Amiga

Great question. Personally I and many of my friends game with it without any problem. Technically there is a slight bit of latency, but I can't tell. A pro gamer may be able to. There is a bit of fringing on the mouse pointer. Here is a link to the newer model of the scaler www.amazon.com/VCANDO-Converter-Adapter-Switch-Scaler/dp/B01N06Q9WH/ref=sr_1_3?crid=27K05BQ2SA4XA&keywords=scart+to+hdmi&qid=1572902160&sprefix=scart%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-3

@@TheGuruMeditation Oh Cool, thanks Guys (Bill and Anthony)! I'll look into this for sure! Long live Amiga!!!

Thanks! Glad you liked the video. You have to press the 720p/1080p button on the front of the converter box. It will cycle through all the resolutions it is capable of. In 720p and 1080p it will produce a 16:9 image that fills the screen of a 16:9 monitor. You must also make sure that your monitor or TV is set to 16:9 mode - not 4:3 or another aspect ratio. Hope that helps! -- Bill

The Guru Meditation: Thx for your fast answer. I also was thinking I have to push these button but it doesnt work. The screen is not completley in 16:9. The TV is in 16:9 Mode. I have no idea what I did wrong?

That is strange. I have used it on several monitors/tv's and never had that problem. Perhaps it has to do with NTSC vs. PAL? I have only used it with an NTSC Amiga. It should't make a difference though because at the end of the day that box puts out a 1920x1080 signal which is 16:9 -- Bill

Check if the TV has "PC" or "TV" mode for the HDMI input. This will usually adjust overscan / underscan settings.

+thedevilbunny Yeah, everything seems to be in sync with no delay, however we haven't done a detailed test with many games yet. We will test it out and let you know. There is some black magic happening in that box for sure. The video is quality is generally excellent, but not perfect. For example, when you move the mouse in WB the pointer gets a bit "weird" if you look closely. Almost a bit of smearing. It looks like it goes a little soft. No big deal in my opinion, but it does happen. I will test a few games this week.

+thedevilbunny I have this SCART-HDMI box and YES there is a delay. Maybe it is not so noticeable in games but in Workbench you can feel little "dizzy" while moving the mouse cursor. I think the delay must be something between 150-300ms.

+TheTurnipKing Yes, that is a cool feature.

The 500 is great! Go for it

Sweet!

John Willaford I pretty much always use 1920x1080. I correct the aspect ratio with my capture card or this neat video converter box called The Decimator. You might also be able to do it with your TV/monitor by setting the aspect ratio to 4:3 but I haven't tried that yet. Hummm I will give that a try tonight. But I can get the aspect ratio perfect when I run it through my capture card.

Aw, thanks so much paranicib! I am just an Amiga fan, not a legend. They guys who designed it are the legends! But I appreciate that very much. Sorry to hear you are having an issue with the SCART to HDMI converter. Have you tried pressing the PAL/NTSC and 720p/1080p buttons? It might be sending a signal to your TV that it doesn't understand. However, I believe the box does convert it from 15hz to either 50 or 60 depending on what position the PAL/NTSC button is in. Let me know if I can help more. Thanks again! -- Bill

Thanks Justin, for the tips. I like to do more than just gaming and I am. CF card already installed not missing my HD noise ;) Collection expanded with 2 A500

Yeah, the RGB to SCART does look good. Wish I had a monitor with SCART so I didn't have to use the converter box.

It is funny. I have noticed the output of the box is a little "strange" For example when you move the mouse in Workbench there is some wierdness around the edges. Also, my capture card doesn't recognize the output natively. I have to run it through a Decimator. However, i have not experienced a latency of 3-4 frames. That is a massive delay and would render the box useless to me. I have played games on it with no problem. It certainly is not as good as Amiga RGB directly to a CRT, but I find the games to be totally playable. Or maybe I am just used to Amiga games being difficult, LOL. I have streamed from this box to Twitch and RU-vid. You can see an example here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g6jq6qatupA.html Is it possible I got a "good one"? Thanks for watching. -- Bill

Retro And More woah! That would be cool. if I come across one of those monitors I will give it a go. Thanks! -- Bill

The A2024 has directly an 23pin connector. The Atari ST was known for its SM124 black & white monitor with a resolution of 640x400 @ 72 Hz. However, it was a very small monitor. The original A2024 is a 15" monitor with framebuffer and the Amber flickerixer chip from the A3000. There should also exist a 17" version. The monitor has four greyscales plus black and white, so it is perfect for DTP and CAD. The resolution is 1024 x 800 in NTSC and 1024 x 1024 in PAL. It can't display the HAM mode. With just four greyscales colors really look odd, the color flickering in the Turrican II title is more a color-flickering. And the very colorful game itself looks absolutely weird. The A2024 mode is incredible. It tranfers with a frequency of 10 or 15 Hz about 6 PAL or NTSC images into the monitor, they will be buffered and can display the full image. Vertically it's one image to 640 pixels, then 384 pixels in another frame. This method is repeated four times, so you have in PAL (640+384) x (256x4) pixels resolution. On the 1084, you'll see a wild flickering yellow screen. Moving the mouse down on the A2024 looks completely normal, but on the 1084 the mouse ends at the last line and appears suddenly at the top, for three times. It's possible that you see an icon, but nothing happens when you click on it because its on another of the four layers. The same can happen in vertical, the mouse ends at the right side and apperas on the left ands stops at the 384st pixel. You can't click on anything what is on the first layer. It's absolutely weird, incredible that it works. The A2024 was already working with Kickstart 1.3 using the JumpStart disk. The Workbench 1.4alpha15 also had monitor drivers for Multiscan and A2024. It's amazingly buggy ;-)

If you want to get a great retro TFT, check out the HP L2035. It's a 20" monitor with 1600x1200 native. It's working with 48 Hz, so it's PAL compatible. It features VGA, DVI-I, Composite and S-Video. These can be used for PIP. The DVI-I signal can be used with a passive splitter, than you can select the digital and analog signal individually. So there are 5 video inputs. The S-Video image is extremely good, here's an picture of the C64's HiRes mode with 320x200 pixels: www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/c4q7-72-3cec.jpg Well, one pixel is 1x1 mm in size ;-) Very interesting: probably it has an integrated flickerfixer. I have my A500 connected via the black and white video output, and when I'm starting Shadow of the Beast or other things in interlace, there is no flickering. Another weird monitor is the Eizo L997. With 21,3" it's very huge for an 4:3 monitor. The main interesting fact: It supports automatic rotation, just tilt the monitor and the graphics flip with it. But: The graphic card doesn't have to support rotation. So it's really to use an Amiga in portrait mode with weird modes like Multiscan Productivity Interlace 640x960 or DblPAL HiRes Interlace 640x1024. www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/c4q7-q.jpg www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/c4q7-r.jpg This is plain AGA, using my Cbyervision 64/3D scandoubler. No special self-made resolution.

Retro And More woah Retro Thanks so much for all that awesome information. Really appreciate you taking the time to write that. Now you have my wheels turning! I was always interested in a portrait oriented monitor. my friend had one for his Mac to do desktop publishing. never thought I would see Workbench on one! Very cool. And thanks for sharing the photos. They are very helpful. Really appreciate these comments very much. I will put these monitors on my radar in case I cross paths with one. Great info. Thanks again. All the best -- Bill

@@RetroAndMore89 I had the "priviledge" testing A2024 back in the late 80s since Amiga user wanted so bad to beat Atari, that he wasted the money. I tell you, that monitor is utterly useless for anything, it was a scam. Claiming that it is even close to SM124 is just a plain lie...

Great point. I discovered this when connecting my C64 to SCART

Hummmmm. I am not sure about that. I will check with Anthony and see if he knows. He is more of a hardware guy. Sorry Anthony. -- Bill

Thanks Bill

+Evert van Ingen Well, being that we used to use CRT monitors with the Amiga back then, many people like to emulate scan lines when working with a modern emulator or when using an LCD in order to bring back the feel of a CRT. Personally I don't do that. I keep the image clean when using an emulator, and when using my actual Amiga I try to use CRTs as much as possible because that brings the experience back for me. Once I am on an LCD I feel like 1/2 the experience is missing even when using original hardware. One thing that the Amiga did have is flicker when you ran it in interlaced mode. That made it difficult to work with for extended periods of time especially when working with text. That is why they came out with "Flicker Fixers" Thanks for watching and the comment! -- Bill

+The Guru Meditation Sony PVM Monitors are great for perfect scan lines. Thank you for your comment as well :) What does the Amiga output? 240p or 480i?

Right on Evert! The Aimga is 480i from the composite, but can display higher resolutions from the RGB port and even higher resolutions with something like the Indivision AGA board. -- Bill

+Douglas Crawford Yeah feeding it the higher resolution makes sense Doug. That SCART converter box even has a PAL/NTSC switch. You know, the A1200 can switch between PAL and NTSC mode. I am guessing it outputs the higher resolution to the RGB port even though it is an NTSC Amiga - I never tried running the 1200 in PAL. Hummmmm. That will be a fun new experiment. Thanks Doug! Although for best image quality a board like the Indivision that we show at the end of the video is still the best option. -- Bill

+The Guru Meditation So running the PAL version of the games might be important too- where I supose the graphics are rendered in the higher resolution.

+Douglas Crawford For sure Doug. You would certainly want the PAL versions of the game. I remember having some PAL games on my 500 and not being able to see the bottom if the image making it very difficult to play!

+Doug Sternes Hi Doug! Thanks for watching and sorry you are having issues with the converter. Yes, we just plugged it in and it works. Both my LCD TV and computer monitor display all the various resolutions you can output with it. 2 things to consider - perhaps the box is bad? I don't know how good their quality control is, although I haven't heard of someone getting a malfunctioning one yet. Also, there is an HDMI pass through. It can be confusing, but the HDMI Output is actually on the front of the box, which is the opposite side as the SCART connector. Also make sure the input you have selected is SCART and not the HDMI pass through. Try that and if it still doesn't work perhaps you can shoot a cell phone video of the setup and I will take a look and see if I can see what is wrong. What type of TV aor monitor are you connecting to? Good luck -- Bill

+The Guru Meditation Hi Bill... Thanks for the quick response. I've only just gotten back to this... I've followed your on-screen instructions on how to connect the HDMI device so I know that's all OK. I've checked the HDMI cable and the SCART cable and they are OK so I can only assume the converter is faulty. I even booted from a game disk just in case something weird was happening in the start-up but no joy. I could hear the sound (music) from the game but no picture, just a grey screen. So, I've decided to return the device and save up for an Indivision 1200 card. Again, thanks for the response and for taking the time to make these videos (and for helping to keep the Amiga alive!). Cheers! Footnote: So I did a bit more research on RGB to SCART cables and I've discovered that the RGB/SCART cable (that came with my old Amiga 500) doesn't have all the connections required to work with this converter. I pulled it apart and found that Pin 16 (RGB Mode) wasn't connected at all. So, although the cable worked perfectly well with my old Amiga 1084 monitor it wasn't going to work with the HDMI converter... Hmmmm... More info here: eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=47281

+Doug Sternes Wow Doug, I had no idea about that RGB to SCART cable situation. I would have never guessed that. Thanks so much for the information. Sorry you had to go through all that troubleshooting. Maybe I should put an annotation on the video. I think I will. Good luck with the Indivision board. They are absolutely fantastic and are a better solution than this converter box. Thanks for the kind words and for contribution to the discussion and adding valuable information. Really appreciate that. All the best, --- Bill

Hi again guys... Just thought I'd let you know that I ordered a new SCART lead on eBay, plugged it into the converter and it worked right away... So, there you go... Apparently not all SCART leads are created equal! :)

Doug Sternes OK, glad it worked. Thanks for the update. Which one did you get? Thanks again Doug. -- Bill

Hi Gareth! The output of the box is a little funky, but yes - it absolutely should work. That is how I have it hooked up in my office. The only thing I have trouble with is connecting it to my Black Magic video capture card. It doesn't like the signal, but so far every TV and computer monitor with HDMI has worked for me. Thanks for watching and the good question. Amiga4Ever! -- Bill

+The Guru Meditation fantastic ! great way to get my a1200 out and in use... thanks for the response !

Gareth McKee For sure! My pleasure! I have my 1200 hooked up to a LCD computer monitor also then at times I also hook it up to my CRT when I want to bring back the true retro experience. Have fun! -- Bill

That is a good idea. Maybe I will do that. The capture card also comes into play

Trydowave Zod This little box is cool and gives a lot of bang for the buck, but I would say the Indivision has better quality and let's you run at higher resolutions. LOL yeah. RF and Composite are brutal to look at!

+A Bontsema Hummmmm, could be a setting on your TV. Are you going directly into the TV with SCART or using the SCART to HDMI converter box?

+The Guru Meditation I'm connecting directly to scart, forgot the box bit you mentioned. That's the problem i think.. TV setting aspect ratio is now 16:9 the best option except for the bar. Thanks for the reply. Now tinkering with 5.25 drive still can't believe it's actually working and the disks also even better than 3.5 disks... I'm having a ball here just turned 40 , best birthday.... EVER

***** Sweet! Happy birthday dude! I just turned 40 myself. Yeah, your TV is probably having trouble with a 4:3 SD image. Play with the aspect ratio settings on the TV. You may have a mode that stretches it to fill the screen which could get rid of the black bar, although you would be distorting the image. I don't care about the distortion for Productivity, but for images and games it is best not to have it, but that is personal preference. Also, your TV could have a setting to center a 4:3 image. Being that you are seeing the whole Amiga image the problem doesn't seem to be on the Amiga side, but you could experiment with different screen resolutions in Workbench. Experimenting is half the fun! Wow, good luck with the floppies. That is great news. Yeah, the Amiga 3.5" were a bit unreliable back then, and it has only gotten worse. Good luck and keep us posted. Have a great birthday. Anthony and I are actually leaving for a vintage computer holiday party right now. We will lift some egg nog in honor of your birthday and a newly restored A1200. Way to go! -- Bill

+The Guru Meditation Thanks! Have fun you guys.... Will be tinkering on and like you said experimenting is half the fun! Greets from the Netherlands, Groningen. Amiga4Ever

+A Bontsema I have 2 Panasonic TV's and both are centred differently with Amiga on RGB

Yeah, those are cool! My 1200 is crispy clean, but I need to back that anyway just to support the Amiga community. Could also be cool to get a new case and keyboard and put a Raspberry Pi in it. AMIGA4EVER!!! -- Bill

Perhaps, we need to have a talk about bringing Amiga forward into 20th century so we can move into the 21st century. Why is any of this still copyrighted? Anyone?

Hi Andy! Lots of people feel the same, that AmigaOS should be open source. However, it is not, and it is certainly copyrighted. It is very complicated to explain. A-EON owns Amiga OS, but I know there are battles over the Amiga name and copyright as we speak. It is unfortunate. All Amiga users want is a great machine with a great OS. AROS has Amiga roots, is open source, and something I need to get more involved in. Might be something worth checking out. Thanks for the comment and support Andy! -- Bill

Oh man, sorry you aren't happy. I feel bad. I am wondering if there is variation in the manufacturing quality or if the lag varies with certain monitors. Reason being is that I don't experience lag, or if there is lag it is imperceptible to me. I am an average gamer, so I suppose a pro could feel the lag, but myself and many of my friends stream live Amiga games and use this scaler with no perceptible lag issue. However, every now and then someone mentions lag in the comments here, so I wonder if there is variation, or if you guys are pro level gamers and can feel it vs. an average gamer like myself.

@@TheGuruMeditation Well its not that i had many other options for that price lol And i can still use it but when you try to play a game like robocod,you will need to adjust to the lag to be able to jump.For slow paced games tho and adventures it will be fine.Im using this to a Sony X900f Tv.

+khaz Sorry i just saw your comment now. Yeah, this box is great for productivity software and I have played Lemmings and a few other games with it, but nothing very intense so I don't know how bad it will be with the tearing that it introduces. I bet a direct SCART connection would be better. I never heard of the XRGB Framemeister, but will check it out. I also have to install my Indivision AGA board which should look great. Thanks for the comment and watching. Really appreciate it! -- Bill

That unit will cost 40 USD, a framemeister is well over 400 USD, and has lag of its own. The occs is cheaper and has zero lag.

@@TheGuruMeditation He doesn't mention tearing. If you think this is the issue for USING the Amiga, maybe stick to hooking it up once and record a video of you sharing the thoughts you have. Others will find the faults.

@@Vorper I like the OSCC but it cane be finakey and because it is literally just doubling the number of lines some monitors can't handle the odd resolutions it puts out. But when it is working it produces an incredible image.

@@ScoopexUs Overall I still like and use this scaler. I use it every week on my Twitch streams. The tearing isn't much of an issure for me. The OSSC produces better results, but unfortunately my monitor and capture card can't deal with the odd resolutions it puts out

Arthur Steinmetz Awesome Arthur! DOOO EEETTTT!

Cool. I really have to learn Linux one day. I have been meaning to. Thanks for the comment. Cheers -- Bill

Thanks for bringing the XRGB Mini Framemeister to my attention. I wasn't aware of it and it looks like a superior device for sure, but please keep in mid that is costs $368 + $20.64 shipping vs the cheap upsaclers that you can get for less than $50 and free shipping. $380.64 is more than 2x I paid for my entire Amiga, and $242.34 more than the Indivision AGA MK2cr, so the thing better be perfect! We were trying to show a simple and inexpensive way to hook your Amiga up to something other than your CRT as well as compare the outputs on the 1200. I honestly haven't played games (except for Lemmings) with the $50 SCART to HDMI box in this video, but I will give it a try. I am sure it is not perfect, but for my purposes using DPaint, ADPro, Workbench, and a bunch of other applications it is totally fine. But I guess that is also personal taste. For less then $50 it serves its purpose for me, but I guess it isn't for everyone. If you have the money this Framemeister looks good. Also, I am not sure how accurate that guy's lag test is. Attempting to hit a key at a precise time leaves a LOT of space for human error. I think if this box was actually 5 frames of lag it would be utterly useless. That is a massive amount of lag. My cursor has a bit of tearing but I can't believe that it is 5 frames off. At 5 frames off I think it would be difficult just to click on an icon, which certainly isn't the case for me but perhaps this is what you are experiencing. It is also possible that the QC for these things is nonexistent so maybe I got a good one and there are some with substantial lag. But thanks for watching and commenting on the video. It is nice to know about the XRGB Framemeister and I might try it out one day when I have the extra cash but at that price I certainly would go for an Indivision card first and get the benefit of being able to run the Amiga at higher resolutions. Looks like the XRGB is better suited for someone who is also console gamer like the guy in the video. Cheers. -- Bill

+Damian Brown Yes that appears to be very similar to the box we have.

***** Yes, I mentioned that in the video, but here in USA we don't have SCART on or TV's or monitors. Thanks. -- Bill

There seems to be a little bit (certainly haven't experienced as much as others have claimed they have), but I haven't measured it. It doesn't bother me, or effect my gameplay, but it may if you are a competitive gamer.

@@TheGuruMeditation I bought it,and indeed it has a bit of latency on my A1200,but if i remember right the system has some kind of latency by default also...I need sometime to get used to it but its fine.The only thing that i don't like so much is that it doesnt use the full screen.I wish i could fix that somehow.

James Perrin ha ha, beginner's luck! thanks! -- Bill

Thanks for the comment and thoughts. I am with you. I like the CRT's the best, but the point of the video was to explain the outputs on a 1200 and show people how to hook it up to a flat screen TV they likely already have. The video wasn't necessarily about getting the best image out of your Amiga. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that. Recently lots of people have been digging out their Amigas and frequently asking me how to connect it to the TV in their living room and I think this scaler is a cheap and pretty good way to do it. I also have an OSSC and it produces an amazing image. I have heard the Frameister is excellent too, but haven't tested one on my Amiga. I love those old Sony BVM and PVM's. I used to use them as reference monitors for my Sony D600 Betacm SP camera. Now my DIT brings his Flanders that was calibrated at Abel Cine Tec when I shoot Alexa or RED. Would be fun to hook the 1200 up to that! Thanks again for your comment, I appreciate the thoughtful ones like this. Cheers!

ChrisP872 Ha ha, very true! Sometimes I get so stressed out on camera I say silly things. It wasn't my first mistake and won't be my last. I should have had a few more beers prior to shooting! Maybe I wouldn't have said "awesome" so many times. -- Bill

The Guru Meditation I had to make this response because my brother made animations on the Amiga and used to say "boot" for loading and starting them and I used to say, "You don't boot animations" to him. At least, I think this happened. It was so long ago it sometimes seems like it was a dream.

I just started watching the channel but I think you guys are making really great videos. It's nice to see other Amiga users in the USA. It seems the vast majority of fans are overseas. After more than a decade I'm starting to use Amigas again and even got my A1200 back online.

ChrisP872 Thanks so much for the kind words Chris! Glad you are enjoying our videos. The positive feedback really means a lot to us. We have so many cool things planned. We use the channel as an excuse for us to take out our machines and use them again. So glad you have resurrected your A1200 too. Yes, the Amiga was huge in Europe and that seems to be where many of the die-hards are today also. Although, in the heyday, we had about 125 members in our local user group and AMUSE, which was just 45 minutes away in NYC, had hundreds so there was a core group here too. Hopefully they will re-surface and take their Amigas out of storage too!

Very true Waccoon!