Even athelstan did not fully understand "Why are you giving heraldson such a funeral was he not your enemy?" I love that ragnar in the early seasons believed so deeply in the gods and the ways of his people The first couple seasons are in my opinion the best of vikings
@@leftifornian2066 yeah I’m coming to the end of the series now, and i will say without Ragnar it’s been kinda ehhhh….but Ivar and Bjorn are good. Ivar far better than Bjorn’s actor but still very good
@@bartard5199 Also Early Haroldson deep down wanted Ragnar to win, don't forget the forshadowing scene where he asks the blind fortuneteller creepy dude " will ragnar become the next jarl ? " and the blind dude replies if he kills you will it not be so, was clear foreshadowing and an indication that he knew his time was coming to a close, and that he wanted Ragnar to take over, I think Ragnar also knew this and thats why he showed him respect in this fight that one could argue haroldson didn't deserve...
I think Jarl was once a good man but the death of his sons (and the nature of it) turned him down a very dark path, like it would anyone. I think in the end when he knew he was going to die he only felt relief.
He did tell Siggy that he respect him because he's what he used to be when younger but also he proved the western lands existed which Haraldson said he always knew in his hearts existed.
@@PandemonisHe literally cut his chest badly and went for kill shots multiple times lol ragnar won the duel fair. If he wasn’t already beat up and had a VERY injured leg he would’ve washed the haraldson in under 30 seconds.
in all honesty most of these one on one duels turned into giant fights both fighters had men with them as witness but these men were loyal to there fighter if they where oath men then they saw it as there duty to ether avenge there lord or join him and if it was just freands or family your emotions are going to make you attack
@@SuperChuckRaney It's just being careful and intelligent. A 1v1 combat can go either way and everyone knew it, that's also most of the time a jarl will never accept such proposition from a common warrior, but Ragnar was wounded so Haraldson's honor was in danger if he said no, and also Ragnar's notoriety was rising consistently. He would have to fight him at some point, so his best opportunity was when he was wounded, even if Haraldson perfectly knew himself he could die against a really great warrior and given his age. Everyone was 50-50 in this, so you had to take every possibility, like acknowledging Ragnar as earl to save herself and her daugther. Most of the time in reality, every details are settled in advance, only the outcome is unknown.
When the raven takes off, "Lord Odin is here - waiting to see which one of us he takes to his great hall..." - this sends still shivers down my spine, brilliant scene.
@@bookhills2704 what proof mate? He was rulling there for years idk 10 years?? He was thr rightful ruler back there he didnt need to proof anything he was 60+years old
Ragnar never wanted titles or crowns. All he wanted was the power to create his own legacy, to see new places, and forge his own destiny. As the series goes on, I started to feel that the only reason Ragnar allowed his men to kill and raid as much as they did was to simply appease them since they were merely a means to his goals. To that extent you can say that he was very manipulative because of those goals. In the end, he was surrounded by enemies with little to no allies left and he was brought to his lowest in Paris. Who knows what would’ve happened if Lagertha chose to stay or if Floki didn’t kill Athelstan or if Rollo didn’t betray him or if the settlement wasn’t destroyed. Maybe he wouldn’t have been so embittered after all those years.
Or his daughter dying in a plague while he's laying with the woman who gives him 4 sons at the cost of the love of his life, or if athelstan was sacrificed as intended, or if he didn't meet Yidu who gave him the beetle nut, or if he didn't get betrayed by Horik and becoming king. I always think to the first episode, where him and bjorn are on their way to the thing. He says that Odin gave his eye to acquire knowledge, and looks at bjorn and says but I would give far more.
About his men killing and raiding, I don't think he was being manipulative. Remember, he wasn't Christian at heart, so he didn't grow up with such values. I think Athelstan had the biggest effect on him towards the end. Lagertha was his 'prop', and symbolised his origins.
Gabriel Bryne absolutely nailed Earl Haraldson - a lesser actor in the role would have made the rise of Ragnar far less interesting. Just as Travis Fimmel set the benchmark for his excellent portrayal of Ragnar - his adherence to the Steve McQueen school of acting where "less is more" really shone through. "Vikings", in particular the first few seasons was blessed with excellent writing and an outstanding cast - Rollo, Floki and Lagitha were all also excellent.
Kinda distracting at first actually, because he was the only famous actor in most of season 1. I did not recognise the others. But his acting skills really showed, now most of the unknown actors are now famous actors :-)
@@lolanaenamilo2395 It wouldn’t be my approach either but for these people, and mostly everybody in the world back then, it was quite normal. Dealing with things and realities you don’t like is part of being an adult.
i love that siggy and her daughter had that backup plan to kill her daughters husband. thats a real ride or die relationship. siggy always had a catch or a motive with men, to make herself rise but when it came to her daughter, she was all in for her daughter
Nah, he conquered lots of lands. He cheated on Lagertha and lost Gyda but had many more sons. He was at his peak in season 2 and it got more difficult for him once he became king. What really broke him was Athelstan's death, though.
@@MyPrideFlag wtf is cheating, you don't know history, cheating is a concept related to a nuclear family and vikings did not contain nuclear families their family structure was old tribal structure so you can't say ragnar cheated there is no cheating in polygynous culture.
@@edmondtarverdyan1824 And you don't know the show, idiot. His sons never forgave him for it and his actions caused the divide between them that flourished into the war between Ivar and Bjorn. Ragnar is a man who flew too close to the sun. The first two seasons are his ascension and his peak. But he is unable to hold onto what he takes, and he recreates the same issues he had with his own brother between his sons. Nothing he builds lasts as a result, and he is torn between faiths in a crisis. In a desperate last attempt to claim what he tried to build in England, his fleet is destroyed by what must seem an act of god, and he personally kills his own men, and sacrifices himself to build a legacy for his sons, hoping his death will unite them. But the bad blood runs too deep, and while they come together for a while, it doesn't last. He failed his sons, he failed his kingdom. He rose to great heights, only to see great lows. Whatever you think about the culture, or the histories, in the show, explicitly, everything goes wrong with Ragnar's decision to sleep with Aslaug.
@@edmondtarverdyan1824no you don't know history. Adultery was actually a crime in quite a lot of cultures. And do you honestly think couples back than in every culture throughout thousands of years were okay with their spouses betraying them with another person? There's literally a scene here with Judith being tortured for betraying Athelwulf for Aethelstein (though shout-out to Athelwulf for being a good father to Alfred what a Chad). And what the fuck does the Nuclear Family have anything to do with cheating on a lover or spouse lol? It's just common sense and treating your spouse (or spouses) with respect
ive been rewatching season 1 recently - well few months ago, but since 2013 when i first came upon this show ive gained new respect for haraldson. on his way to power he made enemies, costing him his two sons and after they were killed he became wary of others, not giving his trust easily. becoming earl has come at a great cost and im actually sorry for him these days when i think about it. after all his sacrifice its no wonder that he didnt wanna risk it on foolish ventures like ragnars voyage to the west.
I like how haraldson never rushed ragnar the one or two times his previous injury made him stumble, like it feels a combination of both not wanting to win because of that injury, and knowing it didnt make ragnar any less dangerous. The caution and respect the guy shows is awesome
@@mrkiky I was wondering, if it was some kind of 'between rulers' thing. One Jarl is dead, the next not yet proclaimed...was that some kind of 'lawless zone', where you can kill someone without consequences?
A simple man. Who only wanted to be a simple farmer. Hail Ragnar, indeed, for he truly didn't understand what he was getting into, or the burden required of King. All he did was follow all that was right to him.
I thought this was a very thought-provoking end to the Jarl. A typical clichéd show would've had him turn full irredeemable here, spouting venomous lines and fighting dirty. But they took this moment and made something sentimental with it. A much more powerful look at a flawed, but now, complicated man.
Haraldson respected, admired, and envied Ragnar. He was jealous than Ragnar was free, and knew his position said he had to fight him. A good death, and a good kill.
At 3:58 Haraldsson could have killed him, at 4:00 Haraldsson gives him that look to let him know. I think he wanted to die like a man in combat, and he respected Ragnar. He was also a broken man since his sons desths. Yes Haraldsson was a prick but he still had elements of honour. I would like to know his back story tbh
I agree with you about the way Haraldson felt but he also was going to make Ragnar earn it. Also the whole show is showing how power weighs you down and can become a burden. Ragnar ended up feeling as he did in the end that his ambition wasn't really worth it. But I don't think he wanted Ragnar to kill him. I think that he welcomed Death but if he could've killed Ragnar he would've. It is a valid argument you make though
"I did not become Jarl because I aspired to be one, it came about because of.. other people's actions. And I did not become king out of ambition, but once again I had no choice as a result of other people's actions..."
We are getting hyped and pumped with adrenaline while watching our sports team play. Imagine watching your friend or father in a fight to the death were anytime a deadly blow can occur.
That troll was calling for the murder of a man who just won a Trial of Honor by Combat. Killing that imp could be considered obeying the will of the Gods, as imp was defying their judgment.
Little Ragnar did know, that he was looking at his own future: Jarl Haraldson was the Ragnar of his generation; an ambitious, glory-hungry and optimistic young man that after the deaths and lossea of his loved ones, ended up becoming a cruel, bitter and callous man who trusted no one.
This was such a great episode. I love the silence and then the realization that they have to move quickly to sort out their dirty laundry before the transfer of power takes place and how theres no objection. The daughter had the knife ready to give to her to kill the swedish king she hated marrying as if plan b went into immediate effect. And rollo just sorted out the earls henchman like he was just getting a chore over with.
I'm pretty sure Earl realized his time his over and decided Ragnar is a worthy successor as he was without an heir sunce his sons' deaths, that's why he didn't kill him when he had the opportunity. He clearly wasnt one to shy away from dishonorable acts if it suited him, so this seems like the more suitable reason - it suited him to die in battle and leave his title in hands of a man that reminded him of himself when younger.
7:23 Some people aren't natural yellers. Jessalyn Gilsig clearly is one of those people. Each time they replayed this line in Vikings clips on TV, I noticed how uncomfortable it seemed for her to raise her voice.
Great acting. Floki always had that aura about him and always stood out as being this sly joker in the background amongst brave northern kings and earls. 👑
What a civilized world.. Ragnar kill his oponent... Ragnar brother stuck an axe in little fat mans chest...just widowed Haraldson ..newborn widow kill sitting elder...three murders within 5 minutes😂.
The way Ragnar shows respect during and after combat, bu making it fair on both sides. Heraldson also showed respect to Ragnar, as he couldve killed him any time due to his wounded leg…🔥 6:16🤣🤣
Man that swing at 3:58 is one of the most over-swung attacks in the movie/cinematography industry ever. Ragnar might as well not have dodged...that shit ain't hitting him either way 🙃
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