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Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady choose which of the all-time great players they would want to play with in the postseason if they could.
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@guccigucci4188
@guccigucci4188 6 лет назад
I know Vince Carter still has a couple of years left but I can’t lie I like this nba analysts side of Vince.
@Jack-ou4it
@Jack-ou4it 4 года назад
well he lasted a couple of years since this comment lol
@stretch2k564
@stretch2k564 4 года назад
@@Jack-ou4it and he announced his retirement
@dhinton1
@dhinton1 3 года назад
Vince was prepping for this for a minute. he KNEW what he wanted to do post-NBA.
@keigorjai01
@keigorjai01 Год назад
This is impossible, imagine if you are only 21 and you have potential to be one of the best players in the league, plus, you can have your own team instead of align with your cousin, who used to be one of the best players in the league too! Maybe it is normal in NBA today, but it was totally different back to the old days.
@stephenesmith8766
@stephenesmith8766 6 лет назад
I hate T-Mac got hurt early in his career. I swear he was on his way to GOAT status.
@HotdogWaterOG
@HotdogWaterOG 6 лет назад
Stephene Smith watch him and Kobe battle in the early 2000s. He regularly fathered Kobe.
@celglizzy5444
@celglizzy5444 6 лет назад
Alberto Reyes This "first round exit" wouldve been top 5 if it wasnt for injuries
@itzSinno
@itzSinno 6 лет назад
wait didnt jordan get swept in the first 9 seasons in the first round? oops.
@celglizzy5444
@celglizzy5444 6 лет назад
Alberto Reyes | Stats kid, eh? Stats don't tell the full story. If you actually watched him play in his prime, he was an absolute beast. Even Kobe said he was the toughest guy he ever had to guard. You must not have seen him play if u say hes trash, cause hes far from it my guy.
@K.B.Williams
@K.B.Williams 6 лет назад
Tmac, Grant Hill, Anfernee Hardaway. They were all like Lebron. Without the muscle of course.
@ShariaLawAllDay
@ShariaLawAllDay 6 лет назад
Vince Carter and T-Mac should have stayed at Toronto together. They would have formed one of the best dynamic duos of all time had they stayed there together and probably would've won a championship if not multiple championships as well.
@MzVolcanicrox
@MzVolcanicrox 5 лет назад
Yes!
@lebronjames6494
@lebronjames6494 5 лет назад
They wouldn’t have passed the spurs especially the dominant Lakers
@InitialXG
@InitialXG 5 лет назад
Lebron James we really don’t know what would have happened if tmac stayed but considering Kobe himself said “if vc and tmac stayed together, they would have won championships” thats a ton of respect from someone who threepeted in the era and would have had to stop that duo.
@tobaliciousholland12
@tobaliciousholland12 4 года назад
Don't know if they would have won rings cause West teams were more dominant back then, but they for sure would have made it out the East to the Finals.
@Blastboost86
@Blastboost86 2 года назад
@@tobaliciousholland12 they would have won championships with a solid core and a good bench. VC was dominant by himself, and Tmac was dominant by himself. Both had great passing. It would have been Jordan and Pippen all over. VC (Jordan) Tmac (Pippen)
@joenicedj
@joenicedj 6 лет назад
2000 Shaq was a force of nature.
@kenpachiclay11
@kenpachiclay11 6 лет назад
joenicedj i would take the 2000 shaq over any center of all time.shaq was a complete monster in his prime.
@Ilzaza2
@Ilzaza2 6 лет назад
kenpachiclay11 facts
@tobo4111
@tobo4111 6 лет назад
kenpachiclay11 wilt👀
@docoo9132
@docoo9132 6 лет назад
joenicedj Hakeem schooled Shaq all the time....He was the Baddest big man of all, with the "DREAM SHAKE"!!!! #OLAJUWONTHEGOAT#
@kseries1981
@kseries1981 6 лет назад
8/8 Trample. Who's gonna guard that?
@Khanso1o
@Khanso1o 6 лет назад
When Tracy said imagine what Shaq would do to Zaza i started DYING
@chillwithme876
@chillwithme876 6 лет назад
rachel is one of the few female sports hosts that i enjoy watching
@mr.constipation2041
@mr.constipation2041 3 года назад
i want her to be my mom
@juanstepbehind
@juanstepbehind 3 года назад
Weird
@notjosh.6246
@notjosh.6246 3 года назад
@@mr.constipation2041 ?
@FOT2010
@FOT2010 3 года назад
But she wouldn't let Vinsanity speak 🤷🏼‍♂️
@DJ-ys9pv
@DJ-ys9pv 6 лет назад
@2:19 they both cringe at the same time just at the thought of getting hit by Shaq in the paint lol
@brianjohnson2725
@brianjohnson2725 6 лет назад
The got Jordan on the list twice. Goat
@djxxxplicit
@djxxxplicit 5 лет назад
MJ all day!
@itskoota
@itskoota 5 лет назад
Twice and they still vote Lebron haha
@trevorrovert3103
@trevorrovert3103 5 лет назад
Nathan Poulos Tmac is a LeBron fanboy. Vince knows what’s up
@chrisweber6090
@chrisweber6090 4 года назад
Stockton should be there he's that point guard that makes everyone better
@mysteriousman6945
@mysteriousman6945 4 года назад
@@trevorrovert3103 you don't Know LeBron Jordan Shoes fanboy
@thatboylije7892
@thatboylije7892 6 лет назад
‘03 Duncan was unreal
@AbdulRashidYakubu
@AbdulRashidYakubu 6 лет назад
Dirk, Hakeem and Kobe got disrespected
@kevindownes9474
@kevindownes9474 6 лет назад
Yeah he only needed 4 first ballot hall of famers to win just as many as kobe...
@coachb2424
@coachb2424 6 лет назад
Shaw was so dominant because if you helped kobe would bust your ass look up their stats please
@demetriushoward6593
@demetriushoward6593 6 лет назад
Greg Hubbard You're on RU-vid all you gotta do is look it up Kobe's and shaq stats were dam near identical shaq won the MVP's because the East had no answer for him the West barely had an answer for
@ianlaing4935
@ianlaing4935 6 лет назад
And Magic
@howardberry7064
@howardberry7064 5 лет назад
No Malone got disrespected
@haf8458
@haf8458 5 лет назад
Prime T Mac with Vince Carter and Shaq... my head just exploded!
@CDiesel720
@CDiesel720 6 лет назад
Shaq is the most dominating force I have ever witnessed on a basketball court. And this is coming from a life long Knicks fan who's favorite player of all time is Patrick Ewing.
@leeyang5763
@leeyang5763 6 лет назад
C D Shaq wasn't dominated when Jordan was around it was after he retired that shaq started winning championships. MJ GOAT.
@marvinnorstrom2636
@marvinnorstrom2636 5 лет назад
Wilt truly would thrown Shaq around like a rag doll. Look him up my friend. The strongest most dominating force that ever played the game, and it's not even close...
@mikelh.7958
@mikelh.7958 5 лет назад
That's not saying much...😜😜😜
@marvinnorstrom2636
@marvinnorstrom2636 5 лет назад
@@mikelh.7958 You're not saying what she either
@mikelh.7958
@mikelh.7958 5 лет назад
@@marvinnorstrom2636 let me be more clear. I'm from chicago and grew up during the knick bulls rivalry (the best ever), so when I hear pat Ewing I'm like, soooooooooo.......
@derrickandresol5478
@derrickandresol5478 6 лет назад
I honestly believe Tracy or Vince with Duncan would be the best duo out of those options. Timmy was the ultimate team player and a great defender who made everyone better
@thedzonkeyz4347
@thedzonkeyz4347 6 лет назад
i agree with you two.. i hope they should choose tim duncan.. a silent but wise power forward/center and a big key player who help the spurs won the title 5x (see the chemistry of duncan, ginobili, and parker) .. shaq is great, but i prefer tim duncan more because of his being patient, wise and more selfless team mate everytime he play on the court.. they dont need michael jordan /kobe bryant/ lebron james.. they should not teaming up with the same position (SG/SF) because it doesn't make sense, and also less exposure for them.. thats my only honest opinion..
@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke
@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke 6 лет назад
True. Anyone out of the 5 choices would've diminished their effectivity or vice-versa. Duncan would have complimented their game.
@nicholascole2613
@nicholascole2613 6 лет назад
I can't see it as much as I can Shaq if we go that route. But I think either of them paired with LeBron will work because LeBron is a work smarter kind of guy. However, I could understand them going with Diesel.
@MzVolcanicrox
@MzVolcanicrox 5 лет назад
My thoughts exactly
@DennyxMeo
@DennyxMeo 5 лет назад
Timmy the best pf of all time.
@donlinbuchanan5745
@donlinbuchanan5745 6 лет назад
Barbecue chicken nobody this era guarding Shaq 😂
@MrMuaythai84
@MrMuaythai84 6 лет назад
shut yo ass up dont disrespect javalee mickee like that
@redvanderbilt289
@redvanderbilt289 6 лет назад
Lakers Shaq sweeping all teams this era
@ultrawidemods5175
@ultrawidemods5175 6 лет назад
Prime Shaq in this era is a 1 man superteam.
@ziadeissa3_
@ziadeissa3_ 5 лет назад
Wilt?
@chibill467
@chibill467 5 лет назад
@@ultrawidemods5175 but but he can't shoot 3s
@leroyrodgers6089
@leroyrodgers6089 6 лет назад
Im not sure how mike in 93 came fifth when he averaged 40 7 6 on 50% shooting with a 56 point game lol. Im confused.
@anton9986
@anton9986 6 лет назад
Lexicon Prime maybe vs weak Suns? His opponents in the other years were better, which he beat
@totenblume7517
@totenblume7517 6 лет назад
Anton 99 Those "weak" suns won 65 games that year
@anton9986
@anton9986 6 лет назад
John Bolden III the 2nd best player on that team was Dan Marjele who chocked on a constant basis. Try again
@lebarbosa9778
@lebarbosa9778 6 лет назад
Lmao "weak suns" HAHAHAH
@shqiptaramerikan7015
@shqiptaramerikan7015 6 лет назад
Lexicon Prime his twice 1 and 5 if i am playing I would on that team that won the the first three peat and would Pipps Batman and we would of 4 peated
@kimberlywright5920
@kimberlywright5920 5 лет назад
T Mac leaving the Raptors was the first sports heartbreak I experienced....what could have been if they stayed together in Toronto. I really loved that era of the Raptors. Nearly 20 years later, Kawhi leaving left me devastated
@JPSimen
@JPSimen Год назад
He left because he was only getting to keep 40 percent of his income.
@EpicReign
@EpicReign 6 лет назад
Finally a media personality has said it. Too much LeBron vs Jordan. Kudos, Rachel.
@makis7383
@makis7383 6 лет назад
I'm not taking anything away from MJ and LeBron they are the GOATS but Tim Duncan is said to be the greatest teammate ever!!!
@bowdawgg
@bowdawgg 6 лет назад
Espn should drop being so disrespectful to Kobe Bryant
@henrymccomments
@henrymccomments 6 лет назад
Orlando Shaq was a beast of a man If he kept that weight down and the speed up he had as a giant smh no one could stop him
@justaguytryingtomakefunnyv648
@justaguytryingtomakefunnyv648 6 лет назад
Umm no. He got bigger because it made him unstoppable.. stop falling for that b.s
@henrymccomments
@henrymccomments 6 лет назад
Just a Guy Trying to Make Funny Videos explain
@justaguytryingtomakefunnyv648
@justaguytryingtomakefunnyv648 6 лет назад
He got bigger and he was literally too strong for anyone. Best Shaq was when he got bigger. He did that intentionally.
@henrymccomments
@henrymccomments 6 лет назад
Just a Guy Trying to Make Funny Videos True however he did lose a step or two but I see whatcha saying
@taraishot100
@taraishot100 5 лет назад
No way Lakers Shaq was more dominant as he got bigger Don't get me wrong I loved Shaq at Orlando but Lakers Shaq was intimidating on the court no one could stop him and his 3peat proves it
@yoe91
@yoe91 5 лет назад
For the life of me I don't know how VC managed to actually keep a straight face for a whole 5 seconds when visualizing Draymond Green trying to guard Shaq. 4:05
@Tearstojoyministriesorg
@Tearstojoyministriesorg 6 лет назад
If Shaq had stayed in INCREDIBLE shape his entire career, the way players do now, he might of reached #1 all time
@kingston4313
@kingston4313 6 лет назад
Tearstojoyministries.org yeah, I read one his arguements with Kobe was when Shaq showed up fat in the pre season practice
@inlovewithi
@inlovewithi 6 лет назад
The way players do now, as in players didn't stay in shape in the past?
@jerrysmooth24
@jerrysmooth24 6 лет назад
hes locker room cancer and hits half his free throws
@ORagnar
@ORagnar 6 лет назад
I don't see how he could pass Wilt Chamberlain.
@ben1ben2ben1
@ben1ben2ben1 6 лет назад
ORagnar Wilt played very early in the NBA when it was still underdeveloped. When the talent started getting better, Wilts stats plummeted. Wilt is not even considered the best player of his era. Russell is
@melvinhenderson7169
@melvinhenderson7169 6 лет назад
Shaq could average 50 easy on the warriors and foul out the hold team
@jhonreckner9155
@jhonreckner9155 6 лет назад
Melvin Henderson Klay Curry or KD would cook him on the perimeter. He’d be dead by the end of the first.
@sushinobi8371
@sushinobi8371 6 лет назад
Yeah he’ll get 50 but still lose.
@angelh3737
@angelh3737 6 лет назад
jhon reckner klay curry and KD wouldn't be on the floor. Lol They would be in foul trouble bc you know Damn sure Javal McGee and Draymond Green aren't holding Shaq 1 on 1 lol
@angelh3737
@angelh3737 6 лет назад
Lebron James Shaq could soft hedge on the perimeter until the the defender got around the screen. Just bc you see the Cavs switching everything doesn't mean that's the only defense available. Also Curry and KD aren't going to be able to take that body contact if Shaq contested them at the rim. 170lb Curry vs 350lb shaq u do the math. Someone's gnna end up hurt. Imagine if Shaq bullshitted and fell on Currys legs the way Zaza did to Westbrook.
@McStrokeAvision
@McStrokeAvision 6 лет назад
Shaq would kill them and foul them out. Shaq would murder the Fuck out of them please believe. If he kept his weight down dream of nature
@michaelvick4588
@michaelvick4588 6 лет назад
No one ever talks about 03’ Duncan...the man had zero all stars on his team and won a championship. Few players have ever done this. 75’ Rick Barry, 03’ Duncan, 11’ Dirk are the only ones that pop in mind. Duncan carried that team past y’all boy Kobe and Shaq. How can Kobe compare to Duncan when he couldn’t beat Duncan who had zero all stars on his team while Kobe had a top 10 player of all time. Duncan so underrated, early 2000’s Duncan is up there with anyone outside the top 5
@RaffyG9688
@RaffyG9688 5 лет назад
What?! Forgetting about 08' WCF where Kobe only has Pau and Duncan have Parker, Ginobili and Finley? Lakers beat them 4-1😂
@kempus2974
@kempus2974 5 лет назад
People forget, MJ was the only all star on his championship teams in 91 and 98
@jbenz1990
@jbenz1990 3 года назад
Great question. If you asked the top 100 players of all time you would get a lot of different answers. Most of the fans would say MJ right away but players choose depending on their position, great pick by both
@Drygun01
@Drygun01 6 лет назад
Duncan the Greatest Power Forward in the history of the game
@ssj_primal
@ssj_primal 6 лет назад
Today’s era better recognize a force Shaq was. The 2000 Lakers against today’s competition...😖kobe was MAJOR problem for people also, Afro samurai
@ryanelkadi3196
@ryanelkadi3196 5 лет назад
“Major problem for people” Can’t shoot 40% in the finals from 2000-2003
@amirghazi8695
@amirghazi8695 6 лет назад
3:00 the look tmac gives to vince when talking about shaq 😂
@jermaineonealnumber7
@jermaineonealnumber7 6 лет назад
As a die-hard Spurs fan, 2003 TD was 1 of the best, but 1993 MJ was unreal, that G4 double nickle in the Finals, unstoppabull.
@oldnbaschool
@oldnbaschool 6 лет назад
Nowitzki's run was fucking outstanding. Kobe had an amazing run against Utah and Suns back in 09 - 10. Avg 33 pts, 5.8reb,7asst,1blk!
@iwannafallintoyou
@iwannafallintoyou 5 лет назад
If tmac had shaq, he would have had 5-6 rings for sure
@karnige5804
@karnige5804 6 лет назад
tmac was a scorer vince surprisingly didn't want the ball. his pick on Mj is perfect. hed rather be a pippin
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. 6 лет назад
The Karnige he'll ya me too I didn't play in high school.
@poly_neso7212
@poly_neso7212 6 лет назад
Lebron James Go watch Tracy McGrady career retrospective. Youll see how hot his game was to other real NBA players (Kobe, Vince and Alonzo).
@bundlecrap68
@bundlecrap68 6 лет назад
Ironic yet at the same time sad as a Raps fan. Young TMac and VC were like MJ and Pip, but VC's star appeared to shine brighter or the MJ. So Tmac came home to Orlando because he didn't wanna be Pippen to VC.
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
The Karnige you know Tmac was a better passer than Vince Carter right?
@sid3986
@sid3986 6 лет назад
The Karnige cmon now pippen was on whole other level
@stephencurrythehumantorch167
@stephencurrythehumantorch167 6 лет назад
I would want to play with MJ or Bill because they were WINNERS
@nicholascole2613
@nicholascole2613 6 лет назад
Winners also have the necessary parts to compete for multiple chips. See Jordan's Bulls, Kobe & Shaq's Lakers, etc. Give LeBron prime Tmac or prime Vince and they have a few. I'm a bit shocked because both of their games fit better with LeBron. Vince would have a field day, and Tmac would have the greenest of lights to pull up however and whenever. They must be okay with just playing defense?
@yijunlin4072
@yijunlin4072 6 лет назад
When all those stars were young, they hated each other wanted to destroy each other. But when they are older and wiser, they respect each other so much
@E_T_H
@E_T_H 6 лет назад
"Hell give me Shaq when I was in my prime" - T Mac "woulda beat everybody!" - VC
@princepaul6555
@princepaul6555 5 лет назад
Dennis Rodman is the only guy that can guard shaq. Dennis was a great defender and isn't given the respect he deserves
@taraishot100
@taraishot100 5 лет назад
Only these little kiddies don't give him the respect but us 90s kids know better
@stevechen1991
@stevechen1991 6 лет назад
Shaq would average 40 25 6 in today nba. He would eat any player for dinner and get triple teamed most times
@zeeeroo6032
@zeeeroo6032 4 года назад
nnow how about larry and shaq hahaha
@JPSimen
@JPSimen Год назад
His freethrows today would make Charlie Chucking the Fool.
@conanthe3rd
@conanthe3rd 6 лет назад
wow the disrespect that kobe gets... 2 MJs just 2 yrs apart tf outta here
@ranholic5027
@ranholic5027 6 лет назад
conanthe3rd its not disrespect lol... Go find some kobes postseason stats that had better stats than those 5 in the vid... U cant
@jeffjohnson726
@jeffjohnson726 6 лет назад
conanthe3rd that’s wat I said people fear Kobe
@angelh3737
@angelh3737 6 лет назад
Ran Holic Kobe played in the best defensive era between 1997 and 2004 😂😂😂 go look at stats and game tapes every1 was shooting 40% back then and if you scored 100 in a game u were considered a top scoring team in the NBA. Back then playoff games were hitting like 80 points
@ranholic5027
@ranholic5027 6 лет назад
Angel H best defensive era??? Stfu with ur bs lmaoooo... Thats ur only excuse huh??
@ranholic5027
@ranholic5027 6 лет назад
Angel H is that why shaq and duncan had the best postseason stats in the early 2000 but kobe dont have?? Lmaoo
@detailsmove
@detailsmove 6 лет назад
This is so great to hear lol I can't wait to hear these stories with today's players 10 yrs from now
@justinthinkify
@justinthinkify 5 лет назад
Shaq was definitely unstoppable. Glad they talked about it because all we hear these days is Lebron vs MJ. I remember watching Lakers in the Finals and everyone was like how the hell do you stop that guy. Literally massive and was able to move quick too. But he does have a weakness and it was high free throws. If Shaq was healthy and had his 2001 form for 10-15 years, he would probably be GOAT. Lebron and MJ were also very fortunate they were healthy in their careers. Most importantly, they took care of their bodies as well. Shaq didn't just post his way and dunk. He had really good footwork and had really good hook shot that is super underrated. He did have a poor ft% which diminishes how good of a shooter he was around the rim.
@kawaiiafangirl
@kawaiiafangirl 2 года назад
I like the mention of Shaq bc Kobe fans discredit his worth to boost up Kobe's legacy. I remember reading from articles back in the early 2000s that Shaq could have been the GOAT bc he was also 30 years old when he won his 3rd straight championship (as was MJ) but Shaq wasn't going to retire and was expected to win more. I do agree w/ you that perhaps Shaq not taking care of his weight led to some injuries that sped of the decline of his prime. In terms of pure dominance in the Playoffs in the last 35 years, I'd say Jordan, Shaq, and LeBron are the only ones who can make entire teams shake in their boots.
@dagogonzalez1846
@dagogonzalez1846 6 лет назад
I would like to see vince Carter in the slam dunk contest for 2018 and 2019 season
@IAmLEE21
@IAmLEE21 4 года назад
03’ Duncan for me 🔥 He’s the most selfless player of all time and I’d believe he’s the best at making his teammates fit the system.
@sambeezy007
@sambeezy007 2 года назад
Yes he is. He's the BEST fit. The modern Bill Russell. He'd be the rebounder and wouldn't distraught your offense or defense.
@preachmann1271
@preachmann1271 6 лет назад
Shaq, cause im a scorer, but Jordan i gotta play with him🐐
@genobourn7423
@genobourn7423 6 лет назад
The panel is young! You are living for the moment. In which I understand. That is all you know!
@IronHorsey3
@IronHorsey3 5 лет назад
She does an excellent job here. Asks a good question and gets out of the way letting McGrady and Vince lay it down. Vince Carter was a force. Well done all around on the unstoppable force, Shaq.
@lukacalov1988
@lukacalov1988 6 лет назад
Wade's 2006 postseason is way better than lebron's 2012
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
Luka Calov Both were rigged in tge Heats favor. I'm a heat fan and even I have to admit that.
@lukacalov1988
@lukacalov1988 6 лет назад
Young Love that doesnt mean that wade's performance wasnt better than lebrawn's
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
Luka Calov you're right. I'm just informing. But to be honest, it's arguable. Wade mostly got to the free throw line. LeBron was a possed straight forward down to business not trash talking, no celebrating, no emotion showing player matching Durant match up for match up. The Heat team in 2012 dominated when Battier and Mike Miller finally showed up hitting those threes
@lukacalov1988
@lukacalov1988 6 лет назад
Young Love ok but wade also was down 0-2 and like 14 pts down in a 4th qtr of game 3 Bassicly he was down 0-3
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
Luka Calov It doesn't matter how far you are down. What matters is if you win.in all honesty, beating a team 4-0 is more impressive than a doing a comeback because that just means you're the competition. And both series were rigged anyway so it really doesn't matter.
@julioelchavez2889
@julioelchavez2889 6 лет назад
Duncan is a proven winner and leader, he wouldn’t care about getting 30 points unlike Jordan and lebron because Duncan in his prime would protect the rim and rebound so you never have to worry about it.
@ilhamps7500
@ilhamps7500 6 лет назад
Westbrook worry about that
@skating7791
@skating7791 6 лет назад
While that is true, pitting Duncan against Shaq is just hard just to do. I'd play alongside Shaq as well over Duncan, even though personally I prefer Duncan as a player. Shaq in the locker room being as hilarious as he is, as well as being literally unstoppable points is just nice as a safety net
@mashwork6615
@mashwork6615 6 лет назад
Shaq, Tim Duncan, Lebron, MJ, Magic, Bird, Hakeem are franchise changing players. They could transform the worst team in the nba into a 50 win team almost by themselves. You draft those guys before u take Kobe or iverson KD Dr J
@ericfranklin1802
@ericfranklin1802 6 лет назад
The reason that you don’t hear Shaq in the GOAT debate is because unlike Jordan and LeBron he didn’t have the same kind of versatility. Just one major point, Shaq and free throws and unfortunately there were other things in his game that could be exploited, though what he was good at he dominated in. Though I still believe there is no way you can call anyone that came after MJ and Shaq the GOAT, simply because the contact and foul rules changed so drastically, if you were to take LeBron out of this era and plop him into MJ’s time, sure he’d be just as good of a player but the number of free throws would drop through the floor and guaranteed more of his shots miss or get blocked because let’s face it, people play light d on LeBron because they know the refs tend to treat him with kid gloves. Whereas if you move Shaq or MJ into today’s NBA they’d be getting free throws left right and center on top of their ridiculous number of points they averaged.
@nicholascole2613
@nicholascole2613 6 лет назад
LeBron is a multi era kind of player. People back then would be just as helpless as they are today. He can't help what rules are in place. To be honest, just because someone can throw elbows and literally push you out of the air or suplex you doesn't mean that's awesome defense. How people applaud something that could cause serious injury is beyond me? That's a cowards way out versus figuring out a way to stop them naturally. They have MMA for that gladiator type stuff, it has no place in the NBA.
@socool8521
@socool8521 5 лет назад
Nicholas...while that's a fair point, do you also think it's legit to handicap defenders to a degree that people can nearly score at will.
@QiscCastle
@QiscCastle 6 лет назад
Love seeing Mac and VC together! What could've been!!!
@alexandervue9464
@alexandervue9464 6 лет назад
Haha love those two guys! "Imagine the both of us going to double shaq"
@brettrobbins2707
@brettrobbins2707 6 лет назад
Duncan is the best for thier skill set, they said the others cause they are garunteed to finals
@umeshnatesan2048
@umeshnatesan2048 5 лет назад
prime tim duncan is also basically a guaranteed finals birth when they were in their primes. 01 02 and 04 the only reason duncan didnt make it to the finals was because he had to go through shaq and kobe, but in 03 he went insane and beat them. If he had help those other seasons (manu and tony hadnt become who we know today) he wouldve gone to the finals all those years as well. Tmac and vince wouldve def gotten to the finals.
@adaneboateng
@adaneboateng 4 года назад
94 & 95 over Tim Duncan any day
@hennyspiderman9974
@hennyspiderman9974 6 лет назад
Prime Shaq with prime Bron. Prime Bron and prime T-Mac. That would have been crazy
@cjpayne2385
@cjpayne2385 6 лет назад
kobe? wade?👀
@antw9770
@antw9770 6 лет назад
Chad Payne Wade 2006 was ranked 9th and Kobe 2009 was ranked 21st
@Green_belly
@Green_belly 6 лет назад
Wade😂
@darthmarty8185
@darthmarty8185 6 лет назад
Wade was easily the best 06, lebron should have a few spots on this list as well recently with how dominate he has been in these last few years, but espn is a joke anyways oh well
@joestuehmer7967
@joestuehmer7967 6 лет назад
Iverson was better than wade.. Only thing wade got on ai is rings thank shaq n LeBron for that
@darthmarty8185
@darthmarty8185 6 лет назад
Joe Stuehmer you just showed you have no basketball IQ for that. Wade plays great defense while iverson was a liability, wade was hands down the best player in 2006 look up the stats and watch some tape on that final.
@Dean_Winchester247
@Dean_Winchester247 4 года назад
You know what's more entertaining? If prime VC played with Steve Nash's Phoenix Suns. Imagine that lineup. Stoudemire, Marion, VC, Richardson and Nash. How many alley hoop dunks would that be in a game? They're gonna fly all over the place.
@HarpoSpoke
@HarpoSpoke 6 лет назад
MJ in 91: 6.4 rebounds 8.4 assists 2.4 steals 1.4 blocks 31.1 points (52%) TD in 03: 15.4 rebounds 5.3 assists 0.6 steals 3.3 blocks 24.7 points (53%) Shaq in 00: 15.4 rebounds 3.1 assists 0.6 steals 2.4 blocks 30.7 (57%) LBJ in 2018: 9.1 rebounds 9.0 assists 1.4 steals 1.0 blocks 34.0 points (54%) Lots of great performances but I would say Lebron has the greatest playoff run of all time. And this is about an individual player so the team winning or losing isn't relevant.
@raydominguez9351
@raydominguez9351 5 лет назад
Imagine a young MJ and a young Vince together in a same team Omfggggg
@tobaliciousholland12
@tobaliciousholland12 4 года назад
Zion's early dominance shows how effective Shaq would still be in today's game.
@jca23
@jca23 6 лет назад
One could understand how dominant Shaq was when the greatest dunker of all time said he can't dunk on him.
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. 6 лет назад
Jason Chan mj dunked on him. So yes the greatest dunked did!
@angelh3737
@angelh3737 6 лет назад
Sam Nelson everyone says Vince Carter is a better dunker lol half the Dunks MJ did Dr. J just first
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. 6 лет назад
Angel H sorry but kno...mj the only person who dunks of two feet and in a game...has better dunks then carter! Vc....is a great dunker but he's a power house...always was my had way better style & shoes...and gold nickels. And did most of his dunking on all the top players centers to ever played the game . Vc...dunked on almost no one.
@JayJay24Lane
@JayJay24Lane 6 лет назад
Sam Nelson I understand what you're saying but VC does vert take offs also. Any windmills he does, it's done properly, from a 2 foot take off, FULLY formed windmill put down with a powerful finish. Not the corny, cheesey 1 foot fraud looking take offs that Lebron + a lot of these newer guys are doing now days. And VC last year, has even talked about how a lot of these guys try doing shitty 1 foot easy windmills. It's just not the same. VC's 360s were all done off 2 foot take offs. Majority of his dunks were done off vert, the way how both me and you like seeing these iconic dunks being done. But as far as dunk on defenders? I would definitely agree with you mentioning MJ having more iconic posters though. BUT you and I know MJ's not the only vert dunker. VC, J Rich, Baron Davis, list goes on bro..
@angelh3737
@angelh3737 6 лет назад
JayJay Hanchard that's my point VC took what MJ did and properly expanded on it VC had the finesse down also. His dunks were so clean. Yes MY dunked on better players but if it was a dunk contest in taking VC. Especially with his reverse 360 full windmill where he brought the ball all the way down. To me the dunk from the free throw line is MJs signature dunk. VCs honey dip where he put half his arm in the rim was better.
@shawngriffin4492
@shawngriffin4492 5 лет назад
I Wish Vince & T-Mac Would Have Won A Couple Championships Together
@kaygor16
@kaygor16 3 года назад
Watch them together make me think about my college year. It was great to have them in Toronto entertained us. Too bad Tracy decided to leave The Raptors, if not, they could’ve been winning multiple championships!
@weiss1377
@weiss1377 6 лет назад
Good on you, Rachel. Everyday it's a Lebron-MJ debate, 365/24/7...
@nicholascole2613
@nicholascole2613 6 лет назад
Nothing wrong with friendly debates. 😬
@anthonybryant4107
@anthonybryant4107 6 лет назад
Irving, Jordan/Bryant/Chamberlain, O'Neal, Russel, Iverson.. 🤔
@AIRCOOLEDLIFE
@AIRCOOLEDLIFE 5 лет назад
There was only one person that was able to CONTAIN Shaq..........🤔.....none other than THE WORM🤷🏽‍♂️
@Soldier979
@Soldier979 5 лет назад
Olajuwon Ben Wallace Dennis Rodman Yao
@DaveOh
@DaveOh 5 лет назад
I’m super down for any discussion that isn’t lebron vs mj
@starr0401
@starr0401 5 лет назад
They should be each other's answer. It's that simple.
@enricorossi3968
@enricorossi3968 5 лет назад
hahah I love how nonetheless the Tmac point Vince say "I am still gonna play with MJ"
@devyn9546
@devyn9546 6 лет назад
Where’s Kobe
@devyn9546
@devyn9546 6 лет назад
Nutcracker Draymond Trashtalk Green he should be up their besides lebron
@loyalfans-kxngunkasaxxx2223
@loyalfans-kxngunkasaxxx2223 6 лет назад
Nobody wants to play with Kobe, why would he be on the list?
@devyn9546
@devyn9546 6 лет назад
Nutcracker Draymond Trashtalk Green Kobe passed lebron
@Ognkills
@Ognkills 6 лет назад
Devyn Lyons lol Kobe is trash
@jvr6809
@jvr6809 6 лет назад
Choking
@jeraldvincentzumel5300
@jeraldvincentzumel5300 6 лет назад
TMac VC and Shaq would've gotten at least 5 rings if the played together.
@toveychow3635
@toveychow3635 4 года назад
Plus u. They can get 5
@lamefart
@lamefart 5 лет назад
I would put 92 MJ in there as well... Remember the time when MJ was so angry when they said the Heat had an MJ stopper and Zo also said it's a guaranteed win for Miami that series? 45/10/7/3/1 67%TS was his full statline for the series. Have mercy on Steve Smith and of course Gerald Wilkins in 93... There's an interview with Steve Smith that MJ counted down from 40 in one particular game everytime he made a basket... Savage. MJ put up otherworldly numbers and the way he made those stats were full of conviction and an exclamation point vs Pat Riley's team. That's maybe why he retired MJ's number in Miami. Lol
@arsenalfanrichi
@arsenalfanrichi 3 года назад
Nice to See Vince as a pundit. I loved his intensity as a player
@JoseHerrerA-lc4cs
@JoseHerrerA-lc4cs 6 лет назад
Tracy with Shaq!!!! done. People yes they disrespected Kobe on the list but realize that it was best players to Vince and Tracy... VINCE AND MJ wow
@TonyStark-my7ld
@TonyStark-my7ld 6 лет назад
Everyone wants to play with Kobe. The most unselfish, humble player ever.
@a.g.8561
@a.g.8561 6 лет назад
Iron Man Are you kidding me? Unselfish?
@jermaineonealnumber7
@jermaineonealnumber7 6 лет назад
Aram, I think you are missing Iron Man's point there dude.
@a.g.8561
@a.g.8561 6 лет назад
jermaineonealnumber7 im bad at reading. What does unselfish mean then?
@socool8521
@socool8521 5 лет назад
sarcasm bro....you missed it. lol
@za4708
@za4708 6 лет назад
Where is Kobe?
@taylor860gang
@taylor860gang 6 лет назад
Sean Kim as big as a Kobe fan u don't put him over Jordan at SG
@taylor860gang
@taylor860gang 6 лет назад
Sean Kim my bad didn't see the two Jordans lol
@za4708
@za4708 6 лет назад
I love MJ, Duncan, Shaq and LeBron but not putting Kobe was a bitch ass move
@d.mcbridej.d5666
@d.mcbridej.d5666 6 лет назад
Sean Kim who would play with Kobe ??? He doesn’t pass lol
@jstiles1659
@jstiles1659 6 лет назад
Sean Kim Where's alot of ppl at is the better question
@owascoshaw
@owascoshaw 6 лет назад
Only 2k helps me with my Vince Carter, Tracy MCGrady Raptors dynasty
@jimmieleepatterson
@jimmieleepatterson 5 лет назад
I will never understand how Shaq's legacy had taken such a hit. He had no equal for the majority of his career
@jimmieleepatterson
@jimmieleepatterson 5 лет назад
@INTOtheVOID11 you couldn't have seen Shaq play at the peak of his career with a statement like that.
@jimmieleepatterson
@jimmieleepatterson 5 лет назад
@INTOtheVOID11 I'm calling b.s.on that one bruh. Checking Kobe's stats he only gets 2 rings if Shaq never goes to L.A. Kobe knows better than that. Besides, what does effort got to do with it? That's like saying Jordan didn't try hard enough to get 7 rings or Ewing didn't try hard enough to get 1.
@jimmieleepatterson
@jimmieleepatterson 5 лет назад
@INTOtheVOID11 I think you're the only one saying it
@tsuggs24
@tsuggs24 5 лет назад
Mcgrady got in the hall of fame by mistake he haven't did nothing to deserve the Hall never went to a finals never went to a conference final either never won a gold medal so what have he done but led the league in scoring
@acezero15
@acezero15 6 лет назад
let's not pretend hack a shaq is not a strategy.
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
Ghost0017 There in lies Shaq's weakness. He would've dominated completely had he been able to hit his free throws.
@Chronz
@Chronz 6 лет назад
Strategy that never worked
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
@@Chronz What are you talking never worked? It worked and frustrated Shaq plenty of times.
@nicholascole2613
@nicholascole2613 6 лет назад
It's a strategy that was effective to the point it's used till this day. I will say this though, there are a few times he hit them when it really mattered.
@son-jayharrison8570
@son-jayharrison8570 5 лет назад
So you're risking putting your front line in foul trouble for hack of Shaq?
@demetrius-yi4ew
@demetrius-yi4ew 6 лет назад
Out of this list Mj number 1 of course 6-0 beat everything nobody killed like mike... vince like i want rings im playin with mike...lol Timmy number 2 play with
@RollTideRoll-xk5kx
@RollTideRoll-xk5kx 6 лет назад
demetrius 2000 Did you not understand what the list was about? It was about individual playoff performances in different. They ranked those. Not careers.
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
demetrius 2000 bill Russell, 11 rings, 8-0 and 3-0. Never lost the first round, never lost a final, never lost a game 7. His legacy is so marked that no matter how much media tries to disregard it and sweep it under the rug, it's solidified and won't disappear. Jordan is overrated and not even close to the greatest players of all time. Get off his nuts.
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
demetrius 2000 Do your homework. Bill has NEVER lost a finals and Wilt was not the only competition he faced off against. On top of that he beat Wilt even when Wilt had a serious stacked Laker team. There's countless times where Bill Russell was considered to lose but he beat the odds. He was a competitor and always trying to win and solidify his spot as the better player (sound similar to an over rated 6 time 6'6 champion mentally, don't it?). Oh and the 8 teams he faced off against were players that played more for tge love of the game and less for tge money. Not to mention a smaller market equals more competition and lesser role players (something Jordan ws benefited in dominating in as the league expanded). You're hero Jordan is the most over rated player of all time. And the want him to be so they can market off of him. So you do more research then get back at me.
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
demetrius 2000 Do yourself a favor and look at the loss Bill Russell has. It's not in the finals. Like I said, do your homework. And unlike Jordan, Bill Russell was preventing teams and players from getting past the first round or to the finals, unlike the losses Jordan went through with Bird and Isiah/Joe Dumars. So again, your Jordan is a myth and over rated. Without Pippen the set up was easy. Let Jordan score 50 and shut the team down or shut Jordan down and play defense one the other players. Pippen got Jordan past the first round and those 72 qin games. That's why Jordan and Pippen have 6 together while Bill Russell has 11 alone. Know your facts and do more research on previous players. You may learn something new and discover Jordan is overrated (if you can get past your bias or being brought up into thinking he's the greatest). Bill Russell is the true goat.
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
demetrius 2000 only thing you proven is you desperate to place Jordan is the greatest. And telling me Bill Russell lost a finals shows you didn't bother to look it up or you're trying to cling to Bill Russell's one loss while disregarding the multiple times Jordan lost (especially without Pippen). You're just provide yourself to be a dumb ass and continually making yourself look dumb and assuming I can't see your comments when they're showing up in my notification feed. You're the primary definition of the saying "you can't fix stupid"
@emmanuelnwankpa4752
@emmanuelnwankpa4752 2 года назад
Amazing Seeing these two legends Tmac and Vince analysising and being realistic about their experience with Shaq he'll mash the NBA in today s game back then the players were giving everything intensity passion and defense what an era of NBA yaaa
@samweltan3353
@samweltan3353 5 лет назад
Hello? The Dream during 93-94? He won NBA MVP, NBA Defensive Player of the Year and NBA Finals MVP in the same season.
@andymnc
@andymnc 6 лет назад
where's allen iverson?
@AntonioVazquez33
@AntonioVazquez33 6 лет назад
Probably drinking ...
@zacaznar6159
@zacaznar6159 6 лет назад
Lebron is the goat G=oing O=n A=nother T=eam
@nicholascole2613
@nicholascole2613 6 лет назад
😑
@bradjeromeski9831
@bradjeromeski9831 5 лет назад
GOAT Getting Old And Tired
@King_drew
@King_drew 5 лет назад
Haha, imma use this one bwhaha
@markphillipcabahug1551
@markphillipcabahug1551 5 лет назад
Thats the truth right there.... Going On Another Team
@DM-bv9uh
@DM-bv9uh 5 лет назад
@@bradjeromeski9831 lmao
@RAEG40
@RAEG40 6 лет назад
If we're talking about COMPETITION. Then KOBE went through guards like....AI, Pierce, Rondo, Ray Allen, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobli, Steve Nash, CP3, Deron Williams, Jason Kidd, Reggie Miller, Mike Bibby, Pippen, Wesbrook, KD, Harden, Melo, Billiups, TMAC, Metta World Peace.....on and on and on....and these are just the GUARDS. PUT SOME RESPECT ON THE MAN BLACK MAMA AKA GOAT. - PEACE OUT
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
Tanqrae He also had the most dominant center to carry him and got crazy trades like Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown. People like to forget about that while crying about the Chris Paul or Gilbert Arenas trades that didn't get through. Was Kobe great? Yes. But there was actually a time when Tmac and Vince Carter was better than Kobe.
@chris-xf5or
@chris-xf5or 6 лет назад
yea i think that was the difference. I dont think T mac or carter ever thought they was better then MJ or Shaq
@anteriostokes5820
@anteriostokes5820 5 лет назад
Young Love crazy af if you think Vince carter was better than kobe lmao
@oliverskunca7315
@oliverskunca7315 5 лет назад
Kobe is so OVERRATED
@keithdavis9405
@keithdavis9405 5 лет назад
Shaq: listen to my man Tracy Mc! Wilt: Tmac, hold my beer.
@blazecarr
@blazecarr 4 года назад
you can tell at 5:00 rach was told to wrap it up "30 seconds" , you can see her look and head nod ok. anyone else notice that stuff?
@tommytomato3987
@tommytomato3987 6 лет назад
MJ FOR ME
@shadowgod7523
@shadowgod7523 5 лет назад
Shawn Kemp...come on man!
@aegontargaryen6269
@aegontargaryen6269 6 лет назад
Kobe is not on that list I don’t respect this segment
@antw9770
@antw9770 6 лет назад
Aegon Targaryen it was a list made by NBA counting down top 50 playoff runs. Kobe’s 2009 playoff run ranked 21st
@aegontargaryen6269
@aegontargaryen6269 6 лет назад
Eddie N you could try but I bite. just a warning
@aegontargaryen6269
@aegontargaryen6269 6 лет назад
Eddie N haha if you like it I’m with it
@100spurs
@100spurs 6 лет назад
Shaq was the dominant player in the Lakers team in the 3peat.
@JesusIsLord7773
@JesusIsLord7773 6 лет назад
Kobe wasn’t dominant. Difference between dominant and just being a good player lol
@Ihearttaylorswif
@Ihearttaylorswif 6 лет назад
That 91 Jordan was a savage. And Shaq was unstoppable. He use to push guys around.
@joelman1989
@joelman1989 5 лет назад
I 1000% agree with the MJ vs Lebron thing taking focus away from other players. In very tired of the GOAT debate. Basketball is so much more than figuring out who is the overall best player. So many great ways to enhance the game that barely get any attention.
@ORagnar
@ORagnar 6 лет назад
Wilt Chamberlain over Shaq all day long.
@nicholascole2613
@nicholascole2613 6 лет назад
Shoot, Hakeem gave Shaq serious problems. Shaq will personally tell us that out of his own mouth.
@washheightzloco
@washheightzloco 6 лет назад
Shaq was the man
@riyadhabdulrahman4738
@riyadhabdulrahman4738 6 лет назад
Where is KOBE!!?!!? WTF
@antw9770
@antw9770 6 лет назад
Riyadh Abdulrahman Kobe 2009 was ranked 21st
@mashwork6615
@mashwork6615 6 лет назад
Kobe was never ever as good as those guys
@riyadhabdulrahman4738
@riyadhabdulrahman4738 6 лет назад
So y’all telling me Shaq better Kobe ?!!??
@RobertDGordon
@RobertDGordon 6 лет назад
During that 3-Peat? Easily. Who won all 3 finals MVP's?
@basketballenlightenment2863
@basketballenlightenment2863 6 лет назад
Riyadh Abdulrahman because kobe is overrated
@jg3806
@jg3806 6 лет назад
MJ made his teammates faster to keep up with him, more aware in order to see the floor, smarter in order to figure out how to give him the ball 24/7
@edmartinezdj9034
@edmartinezdj9034 5 лет назад
Vince Carter and TMac are so funny together. Vince always beats Tmac to say things because he is a lot faster talking(maybe also thinking?) and it totally frustrates the more chilled Tmac. Priceless
@arrencarlsaguinsin1092
@arrencarlsaguinsin1092 6 лет назад
Best post season performance,,?? where is Dirk,??
@ranholic5027
@ranholic5027 6 лет назад
Lol he averaged like 24ppg 7rbs in 44% shooting in 2011 postseason.. lolx
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 6 лет назад
Arren Carl he's a 2011 championship. That's all. No need to be mentioned
@socool8521
@socool8521 5 лет назад
Young Love....It was still one of the greatest runs ever and should definitely be mentioned.
@therumbleinthejunglee
@therumbleinthejunglee 6 лет назад
Shaq not more dominant then wilt chamberlain
@ImSweatin
@ImSweatin 6 лет назад
yes tf he was dude. all respect to wilt
@therumbleinthejunglee
@therumbleinthejunglee 6 лет назад
Cha Boiiiii no he isn't
@ImSweatin
@ImSweatin 6 лет назад
in that 3 year period. absolutely was. sorry
@nicholascole2613
@nicholascole2613 6 лет назад
It's a toss up. I still like Wilt out of the two in a head to head, but Shaq could hold his own. Wilt is just more seasoned.
@INSPECTORZAP
@INSPECTORZAP 5 лет назад
Wilt was 7'1 275...Shaq was 7'2 350. That is 75Lb difference. Wilt would get pummeled by Shaq all day long. Better get on youTube and look at some Shaq footage again bro.
@SonnyChenova
@SonnyChenova 6 лет назад
they didn't choose MJ because if that happens, they'd be starting off the bench.
@ImSweatin
@ImSweatin 6 лет назад
no they wouldnt
@socool8521
@socool8521 5 лет назад
They would if they were trying to play as SG's. They would have had to play as SFs.
@rayray1192
@rayray1192 6 лет назад
I like Vince and T-mac together analyst style .. dope!
@Sendoh32
@Sendoh32 6 лет назад
Kobe 09 stats 30.2, 5.5 assists,5.3 rebounds, TS% .564 ,offensive rating 117, defensive rating 104, why is he not here?
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