McGrady And Pierce Debate: LeBron Or MJ? | The Jump | ESPN 

I felt like Kobe should've been a guest on here since he played against both. He'll be real bout it too.

Paul Peirce is still having flashbacks to Game 6 2012 ECF😂😂😂

Look up when Doug Collins put MJ at the point guard position. Look up his stats then. If Michael wanted to play the type of game Lebron does he could've but that's not what Phil wanted him to do.

If Steve Kerr missed the shot the series still wasn't over I don't get what's so hard to understand

"MJ plays to win" - "that's different" WTF? Are we playing for the feel good award? Winning is everything

Pierce still upset at Lebron for ruining his celtics dynasty.

The Kerr shot was not a 'bail out' it was the brilliant execution of a play, being that everyone on the planet thought MJ would take that shot, and MJ proved he trusted his team mates, it was a win, win, Finals win

04:40 When Jordan paased to Kerr, he did it knowing that double team was coming and even told him to be ready. It was calculated, not some last second pass as if he had painted himself into a corner. Dont try to edit history Rahcel

U can tell Paul hates Lebron for breaking his team up lol 😂

"Im not gettin on a banana boat with lebron" lolol

When MJ came out of retirement the Bulls record was 34-31, they won 13 of their next 17 regular season games to finish 47-35. The following year they went 72-10... Who really elevated that team... because it wasn't Pippen

Jordan elevates his team by pushing them higher and higher in terms of skills and ability

tmac has a good point both tmac and pierce has scorers mentality. tmac wants to stay the same whereas pierce would step back for mj and play as role player. if tmac is on lebron team cleary tmac is the man on the clutch moments.

Paul Pierce is salty that LeBron James spanked him in the conference finals. 😂 Burn 🔥 And that Ray Allen left Boston to join Miami with LBJ!

I’ve seen them both play, and while James is great, Jordan is the best I’ve ever seen. He was a straight assassin, who never shrunk away from the big moment. He got the most from each of his team mates, and was always ready to carry the squad. GOAT.

I’m taking Micheal Jordan

Pierce still mad 😂

Paul Pierce still salty LeBron torched him G6 2012. He's like the Skip Bayless of NBA players.

How does Lebron james elevate his teammates when he trades everyone for better players

Paul pierce is still so salty Bron dismantled the celtics lol

Pierce still be SALTY AF Lebron always shut him down lmfao

Mj brings the fire Lebron gets people fired

MJ in pippen's second season, 1988-89, averaged 32 ppg 8 rebounds and 8 assists while pippen average 14 ppg 6 rebounds and 3 assists. After that pippen was trained to be the playmaker and handle the assists department, that's team work, that's leadership, training the young talent on how to do it, not be the leader on all stats, even though he could had.

"who`s the hardest to guard?" "mj, no question" "why" "just his mentality" jeez pierce now u can guard mentality

Let's face it Paul Pierce still salty about the loss against LeBron and Ray Allen joining him

There asking Paul Pierce who has a lot of animosity towards Lebron. He's obviously jaded. But damn, he really dislikes LeBron probably because he was single handedly responsible for the destruction of the Celtics..

The game winner made by Ray Allen in the finals vs Spurs was off of a LeBron miss

1:48 the smartest thing Paul pierce ever said. It's a reason he a finals mvp and tmac never got past the first round

Paul Pierce is always salty when it comes to LeBron

Mcgrady has a point, T-Mac and Lebron = Championships. T-Mac and Jordan = Problems. Look at what happened with him and his cousin Carter in Toronto? Him starting a team with his play style fits more with a Lebron type.

Jordan hands down. Jordan will always give you 100% on both ends of the court. Jordan and Kobe are the only two players that will play to win and do what it takes to win. Also Jordan is clutch.

I remenber in the days went i was 12 years me and my friends we go running from the park to watch the bulls game on tv. good all days

how the hell is paul pierce's opinion the "truth" LMAO the guy is so biased from getting spanked endlessly by Lebron

Of course McGrady wants to play with Lebron. McGrady and Jordan had the exact same role that would never work

Mike elevated his teammates . Because of his super competitive nature his guys had to play better to live up to his expectations

The simple answer: Have you seen them both live? I've noticed in sports I play, whoever the greatest player is, the work they do looks like it's in slow motion compared to everyone else.

Paul Pierce salty

Paul pierce just hates lebron lol

steve kerr tells jordan, i got this. does jordan hog the ball, risk the double/triple team or pass it to an open kerr for the game winning shot?

5:39 ... I choked! He killed it with that response! Hhhhhhhahaha

Pierce is soooooo salty of LeBron

Paul Pierce hates LeBron you can tell lol. All because LeBron shit on him, for multiple years and sent the Celtics packing haha.

I knew MJ was was the Goat when he went 6-0 in the finals and when he mentored Kobe and helped him get his 5 rings .

Jordan had some the greatest shooter's in NBA history in paxson, Kerr and hodges. Let's be real. Thanks for keeping it real Tracey💯

Pierce is still salty bout Bron cause he knows that Bron single-handedly ended the Celtics' big 3 and put them in re-build mode

5 seconds into the video i got smacked in the face with Paul Pierce's hate... still haven't recovered. SMH

MJ would tell u what move he was bout to make which direction he would go and u still wouldn’t be able to guard him 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

This was a good segment

Paul Pierce is salty

Paul pierce hates Lebron 🤦🏿‍♂️

Michaels mind is his greatest asset. Doesn’t matter the era, he would’ve found a way to win because that’s exactly what he did. Found a way.

Some NBA players still didn't get it, it's not about just be playing basketball. It's about getting to point why your playing. Winning Championship is the ultimate goal.

Salt...

Paul pierce will ALWAYS BE SALTY 😂

Paul isn’t talking about sitting back and watch as Tracy said... he’s talking about elevating yourself to emulate MJ as much as possible!

T-Mac would not want to be outshined by Jordan so he chose Lebron to play with..

Pierce is such a bitter guy. We all know that he would clash with Jordan.

Done crying about ray allen, now its lebron lol. Pierce and his boston bunch crybabies

Good chemistry with these two. Used to love watching Paul Pierce play

Nichols I know you love watching two guys argue which is cool

Jordan passing to Paxon on the last shot in the final was a play called by Coach Jackson. When Jordan passed to Steve Kerr on the last shot in the final, Jordan called that play on the bench with Kerr. James defers to others under pressure without it being an intention of the entire team.

pierce still salty about lebron ruining his championship dreams

Paul Pierce killing me 🤣🤣 before the question is finished being aske-JORDAN’

Listen Rachel, the first thing you should have learned before starting this show is that you never, ever interrupt an all time great player when you've probably never played yourself and your experience comes from earing others talk.

Jordan had that "aura"

Lmfaooo Paul Hates bron. I wonder why?.?🤔🤔🤔 anyone wants to guess??

Pfffft...Neither of them. I'd rather play with Magic Johnson.

When they discuss "who would you rather play with?"; This shows the difference between someone who would rather win (Pierce) than someone who would rather pad their stats (McGrady). Pierce has a championship and values and understands winning. McGrady has no titles and doesn't understand that, hence why he has never won a title. He just doesn't know how it feels to win that title.

MJ . without question.

There is an open court with Steve Kerr where he talks about coming out of the timeout being told by Micheal Jordan that he was going to take the last shot in the 1997 NBA Finals Game 6 against Utah.Idk wtf pierce is talking about.

Jordan elevated his team mates in practice and with the know that he demanded near perfection and wouldn’t take less. Kept them ready when he did pass the ball and used that to win cuz he will do whatever it takes to win. He also had a stint as a pg with great numbers. .

If you want to pad your personal stats, then play with LeBron. If you want to win then play with MJ.

I’ll rather play with Bron

Pierce is saaaaalty beacause lebron always killed him

Tracy actually had a moment with Jordan, while Paul just saw him. Pretty interesting..🤨

“MJ” HANDS DOWN PEOPLE

Paul pierce super SALT lebron basically made his celtics irrelevant

If you want to get paid and be a better player you take LeBron...

Love them both great for basketball

I'd rather play with Jordan. No question at all ... It's all about wins. If you go to 6 ships and get 6 rings that cures all and makes it fun.

1:02 MJ's pass to pippen

The one thing I hate, and many people may not remember or know, but that 6 titles is deceptive. MJ quit the game after winning 3 titles because his father was murdered over the championship ring Mike gave him. I mean being totally logical, the Bulls would've 8-peated. That's an insane probability that I rarely hear considered any longer, but it was a big deal when I was in high school.

They should do this again today

I love Pierce in this one. When Garnett and Ray Allen came to the Celts, PP had no problen immediately going under 20ppg to win a title. Pierce worked harder on D instead of spending all his energy on O. Then, Pierce still got his anyway. Jordan scores 30 ppg. Some other people have to score the othe 65- 85 pts to win the game. Lebron is a great, but if I was a star player that could play with either one, I would take MJ over Lebron. No disrespect to Lebron either.

I absolutely love Pierce's input on this subject. We're acting like Jordan was not a great passer and never involved his teammates: Lebron averages 1.8 assists more than MJ. For every assist that LeBron has over MJ, MJ has more points, free-throws and steals (equal amount of blocks, that's impressive). Even with up-to-date data analysis for PER, Jordan has a higher regular and playoff career high PER than LeBron's best season. Not only is he better in the last 2-5 minutes of the game, but MJ could impose his will on the game and get the W when it MATTERED. Consistently. Efficiently. LeBron is a better passer and a slightly better rebounder (even then, he only averages 1 more rebound career-wise, and he's 2" taller). Asking "who is the best player/greatest of all time?" is different than asking "who had the best career of all time?" LeBron, when all is said and done, will be more accomplished than MJ, but he is NOT a greater player than MJ. period.

nick wright had Lebrun better than Jordan already in 2006.

Tracy's answer makes complete sense. He said he has a scoring mentality, and so it makes sense to have Lebron be a play maker for him. It's a bettery duo than if he played with MJ.

5:43 sums it all. the truth.

I would rather want to see Lebron teaming up with Jordan.

Jordan vs LeBron Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has: •3 more rings •3 more final mvps •1 more DPOY •1 more season MVP •9 more scoring titles •3 more steals leader •3 more all defensive team selections •4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer. •800 more steals •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10) •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice •6/6 (never allowed a game 7) •Lebron had much more offensive help, example: Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring * In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26 •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs •MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games.. MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons Lebron after his 14th season, is still chasing the “ghost (GOAT) that played in Chicago” •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg. (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics. •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line. •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this. •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%. •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3% •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3. •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9% •LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games. Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games. Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018) •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year.. •Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy. Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard. Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT. MIchael Jordan: •NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg •Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY •Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series: 41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals •Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984-85) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987-88) •Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES. •Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984-85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88), NBA MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season * He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98) •One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986-87) * Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this. •MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice! •In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls: -10 scoring titles, -Won Defensive Player of the Year, -9 times all defensive team, -9time All NBA, -5 league MVPs -6 finals MVPs All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career… Remind me again...who is the GOAT?

3:24 John Paxson, Steve Kerr and Toni Kukoc?

Imagine having 4 HOFs on the Celtics technically 5 if you count Perk. And you had 1 ring? Just cause your super teams don’t work doesn’t mean you didn’t have one.

Paul Pierce is the a bigger hater than Skip Bayless

You could tell TMac IQ is higher than The Truths.

McGrady - absolutely I'd take lebron over MJ That's what not having a college education gets you, kids.

Those green frames look good on Paul Pierce.

i love how the The Truth is so calm preaching the TRUTH!!

Paul just pissed lebron kept preventing him from his 2nd ring lol

Paul Pierce’s banana boat comment and tone still cracks me up till thisnday

Why they show the banana boat😂😂😂