Vincent Will End Final Fantasy 7 Remake Part 2 | NIGHTMARE BEGINS THEORY 

Oh. My. GOD. If I die before I get to see the complete remake I'll be so angry.

Vincent: I might end this remake’s whole career.

I can't wait to see Vincent's limit breaks!

Theory: Vincent Chaos form will be instrumental in the final battle against Sephiroth.

Man, this guys thinking outside the box, inside the box and 2 miles away from the box. His theories are amazing.

They can do much with Vincent, now that his story has been flushed out a lot more. I never really thought about regret and sin being such a big theme but you, as always, make excellent points.

Hey Pez! Thank you so much for posting this theory. My uncle passed away recently and he was the one who got me into Final Fantasy VII a long long time ago, which made it my favorite FF game of all time. He never got to play the Remake even though I found the game with his belongings after the funeral. I had so much regret for not being able to say goodbye to him when I lost him so suddenly but one thing I realized was that he was my Zack Fair. He was my hero and I want to be his living legacy and never forget him. I’m not going to live with regret and I’m going to play the Remake for him. I’ll finish this journey for him and I hope everyone here can help me get to the end. Thank you again for yet another amazing theory.

Perhaps Sephiroth will be the one to awaken Vincent from his slumber so that Vincent is already aware of Sephiroth's intent before Cloud comes. I feel like Remake is setting this up already.

Vincent has and always will be my favorite FF Character in the entire series

Vincent is literally a God

I like the idea of Vincent being a major boss fight as be awakens from the coffin (with transformation into the beast). He can then be a guest party player like Red XIII as the final showdown of Part 2 concludes in Nibelheim/Mt Nibel.

Soooooo fucking mind blowing I really really hope they explore the whole Vincent + Chaos thing because that’s EXACTLY the kind of adversary that could defeat Sephiroth and overthrow his plans. Damn dude I’ll be disappointed if they don’t include that

Hopefully the Junon military parade mini game will be less impossible for me

Just like spehiroth said after the plate, "you failed again I see, But through suffering you will grow strong" -sephiroth. Just as if this post AC sephiroth wants cloud to awaken his jenova cells properly for a fight we do not yet know of but he does. For Zack I think your right that, zack is balanced between haplessness and sorrow he embraces it and drives it in a positive way that it fights off the jenova cells but only leaving the power enchantments with out the parasite.

I'm honestly surprised the first game didn't end in Kalm, that flashback sequence would have actually be a perfect spot to unpack the chaos they had just experienced while also leaving it on a cliffhanger of "we have a job to do"... while Cloud punches a cabinet because he's too short to reach a Megalixer

Advent Children, Sephiroth: " I will never be a memory" ~

That's deep! Vincent is such a mysterious character! Can't wait to see him! ^_^

gonna be honest, i'll probably spend 600 hours alone in Costa Del Sol, on the beach... 👀

Vincent and Aerith are my two favorite characters of all time. I used to hardcore ship them when I was younger. Still do, and yes, I know it will never happen, and I'm okay with that. Now, I'm just REALLY anxious to see more interaction between the two and a friendship between them, because not only are they the complete opposite of each other, but they also have a lot in common. It would be interesting to see maybe Aerith leaving a deep impact on him by something she teaches him through actions or words and her friendship, that really stuck with him on a deeply personal level. It would make his line in the Forgotten Capital in Advent Children "I come here often" more impactful, because it could imply that he quite frequently visits Aerith's grave to pay his respects. It would be interesting and fun to see a "weird" connection between the two; nothing romantic in nature, just that they "get" each other in a weird way that others don't get them. Maybe Vincent is the last person she talks to before she actually goes to the Forgotten Capital, and only because Vincent figures out that she's up to something (the only one noticing that she's acting weirder than usual). Anyway, I'm rambling, and these are just my "headcanons", but I would just love to see a weird friendship between the two - I would be over the moon happy, and it would make for interesting dynamics (and interaction). I'm super curious about people's thoughts on this. :) "The hope that she left us, we must make stronger" - Vincent about Aerith in FFVII.

Well done!! This was the most cohesive, smooth explanation. Also because final fantasy 7 has strong esoteric and alchemical roots, (ahem literally named a character Sephiroth) it makes sense. Breaking this story down into a parable of our human existence makes this game worth more than my weight in gold. Fuck that, it’s priceless.

Vincent looks the coolest from the party and whilst I always pursued him in my main party, unfortunately his attacks and limit breaks were among the least effective, least useful and least offensive. Yet I chose aesthetics over ‘who is the most powerful character’.

I'm hoping it does end Part 2. Nibelheim is my favorite Town in the game. I love visiting Nibelheim and hearing about the Incident that helped make Seph such a memorable Antagonist in the series. It's such an emotional backless story for Tifa and Cloud and a lot of horrible things happened there but still my favorite location. It's the way it looks, the mountains, and the bosses. My favorite Incident but Remade? Yes please! 🥰

he should be already awake, hunting for HOOOOJOOOO!!!

I love how your vids go deep into the lore but you tell it in such an easy to understand way, like you’re riffing and all these thoughts just happen to pop out. But there’s so much work that’s gone into them. Keep the vids coming. Your love and knowledge of all things FF plus your style of communicating so great.

Vincent is my fav, it’s too early to tease me about part of the remake too effin early...

The passion in your voice and the attention to detail to both the original remake and all things FF7 made this so enjoyable to watch w my morning coffee. Keep up the great work.

This has to be one of my favorite videos that you made. Absolutely amazing!

I can listen to your FFVII Remake theories for hours. Keep them coming!

im just excited to see where this story goes. Great Theory Pez!! Can't wait for the Vincent video :)

Really interesting ideas! It gave me the impetus to work on my fanfiction tonight, since it was really inspired by some of your other videos. Great work!

I duno mate. I read more that the flowers now have Pistils. Anybody notice that a lot more in this. I honestly think it's more focus is stressed in the detail of the flower. I also wanna touch on that scene with Marlene knowing who Aerith is. I'll call if for the sake of it, "Catching Marlene up to speed". I honestly think here everything changed, that even the roles of the characters have progressed. Seph doesnt want to absorb the lifestream by summoning meteor, he wants the promised land. Jess, biggs, wedge roles have changed. Marlene is even different. I'm calling it now. and it's darkish. Setting the scene at the Ancient city...Aerith Praying, Cloud comes in, but this time....no Seph shows up... Which means holy is summoned, for what? How dark would it be if the gang realized, that this was supposed to happen and Seph was supposed to kill Aerith..and at that moment Aerith has a realization, " I was supposed to die here, today!!! I don't understand why is the rules changing? If not me...then...why, where is he?" Cut's to shot of Aeirths House and cloaked figured walking towards it. Suggesting Seph has come to take Marlene instead. That Marlene is the link that needs to be broken this time. Maybe Marlene is the dream weaver. That's how she was able to connect to cloud unknowingly allowing Aerith to come visit him at the house. The flower perhaps speak through her.

Brilliant as always. Can’t wait for the Vincent video

Now they need to make a remake of Dirge of Cerberus

I love how your theory videos say they're one thing, but then talk about so many other cool topics that I wasn't expecting, while still somehow managing to tie back to the main point

The dis-pear meme and the nightmare finger pointing hurt my ribs, pez thanks for that truely bro thanks!

Would be kind of cool if Vincent was the final boss of part 2 before joining the team in part 3

Awesome stuff! Waiting for the Vincent video!

You rock! Love all your videos and streams

Love this theory! Makes a lot of sense. Can't wait for pt2 :D

Loved this one, really well done Pez!

This made me think. Wow. I'd love to sit down and talk about these theories, and I'll definitely be looking forward to what happens next.

This is probably the most insightful analysis of FFVII ive ever seen, some real big brain shit going on here and its really colouring my impression of the events of the remake in a really good way and leading me to appreciate the developments in it which honestly confused and concerned me more than a little initially. But I'm really impressed at the amount of thought in this video, I only wish these things were easier for me to discern by myself, but often artistic and expositional intentions are at odds especially in video games (and in movies). I clicked on this expecting some unsubstantiated and hopeful notions about the size/length of the next instalment and instead got an in depth exploration of some really important concepts and themes and I honestly feel like I understand the story better now (and also where they are trying to go with the remake). So thank you for that

FINALLY I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!

Hi Pez, I really loved your FF theories.. I just wish Vincent will be a boss when we wake him up before joining in our party and that would be so cool!

WHY THE FRICK HAVEN'T I BEEN NOTIFIED OF THIS SOONER RU-vid?! This is the stuff I need to see

Always love your perspective on the lore of final fantasy.

I can totally see Vincent making some kind of sacrifice in the last game to end it all. And the Remake was always a plan to undo Dirge of Cerberus.

So Peasant, just thinking on it: Aerith said or indicated that she doesn't have all the clarity of the future - parts of her memories or future knowledge getting taken away in memory-fragments by the Whispers (The Whispers, now gone, as far as we know), but thinking on this: If she remembers what Holy did in the ending - reversing its power to end Midgar - perhaps too, Humanity - than why would Aerith summon Holy again? Maybe this time she won't, if she does have that memory of her spirit in the Lifestream stopping Holy with the entire energy of the Lifestream in the OG ending, that now, in this present new timeline, she may have to choose to die to join the Lifestream once again to save the world from Sephiroth, or if Holy is summoned again at all - or she may choose not to summon Holy entirely, knowing it won't work. Sephiroth, if he does know everything leading up to and beyond DoC, actually may want her to summon Holy because that will give him what he wants: The assumed death of all Humanity and he may not end up killing her because that would disadvantaged him (as her spirit in the Lifestream is stronger than when she was alive, being the last soul of a Cetra not yet dispersed into the stream/that still has her shape/memories and a human consciousness and can bring back other human conciousness' too, like with Jessie, Biggs, Wedge, and also Zack. She can make the Lifestream stronger, in a sense - a Lifestream that may fight back against Sephiroth) and his plans of obtaining a vast amount of the Lifestream's energy, from a massive extinction event. He may want to keep her alive, but maybe captive eventually. That being said, if that plan fails, perhaps Chaos/Omega will be Sephiroth's next back up plan, by using Vincent. We will have to wait and see. Sephiroth knows the end game, but not what the players moves will be. Edit: 32:57: "Connection between Planet and Human...That's what Marlene is there to represent-" You know, also thinking on this, as it's very important concerning the Future of The Planet and Humanity living upon it: The Planet has tried twice now, to eradicate Humanity, once in the OG ending and in DoC. The Planet is trying to wipe-out people as it sees Humans as a threat. If Humanity, on a massive scale can reconnect to the Planet, maybe again hear the voices and communicate to the Lifestream like Aerith can do or even Bugenhagen/Marlene can somewhat hear the voices, then Humanity might rekindle that connection to the Planet - hearing its suffering, and then The Planet likely won't try to exterminate Humanity on a whole. Maybe that is the real ending, that Aerith is now trying to achieve, from what she saw in the Lifestream in OG events/likely saw too, in the beginning of Remake: A goal to have other people awaken their inner connection to the Planet, because the future is bleak for those that do not hear The Planet's suffering, as the Planet will keep trying to wipe them out until this version of eco-life draining people are gone, compared to the Cetra, that lived in Harmony with the Planet, helping it thrive. --- I hope this comment doesn't get lost in a sea, but if you see it, have a good day, man! Keep up your good theories and FF Spirits! ---

If Pez isn't spot on with every VIIR theory he's done, I will eat my shoe.

I love your theories so much. I loved this video

Always excited when I see a new FF peasant video is up and talking about my favorite story. Playing FF7 new threat at the moment with hi res textures and models. Wonderful, and the story changes are very interesting.

I can't hear that Vincent voice without hearing Wolverine now... that IS the voice of Wolvie for me, (and I grew up with the 90s X-Men cartoon). Vincent needs a different voice, but I understand the similarities of the characters

10:43 "Sephiroth? You mean the darkness in Clouds heart" - Goofy, Kingdom Hearts

Nibelheim is the most logical place to end - we'll get good background on all the characters by then (barret, red etc) and have a big WTF when they get back to nibelheim. Part 2 should start with calm and the big OMG sephiroth burned down clouds home town ---and by the end it's like wait WUT it's not true!?? perfect cliff hanger. They can treat vincent the same as RED in part 1

Very nice vid! NGL, subscribed for a Vincent video! Hoping for the anomaly video... Genesis Rhapsodos!

I think you're getting close. I'll point out a few minor things though. Yes, as far as I can tell Aerith from the future is sending messages to the past. The novel Flower Maiden expressly points out she actually can't send herself anywhere, but she can share a part of herself with others in the life stream (implying whispers) to merge their thoughts. These whispers then allow you to beat the shit out of them so that you can harm the others. They try to reach out to Aerith but fail at the beginning. Past-(present) Aerith can't see them initially. In fact she can't see them at all even as they swarm and attack her until she touches Cloud. Watch that moment carefully, the eye and face language, there's no targets, no focus, she looks down at the ground and swats away at a feeling, at some kind of disruption, at sounds.. she can't see them. Then she touches Cloud's arm and suddenly her eyes go wide, her jaw drops, she's bewildered.. "What are these!?" Each time you encounter with an infected "Whisper", which happens to be pinkish-purple (so purple because of Jenova-Sephiroth influence aka "dark lifestream" from Dirge of Cerberus and the entire On the Way to a Smile novel series [with the choice of purple over black] and pink [Aerith's messages from Flower Maiden]... you attack such strange Whispers that refuses to fight which in turn allow you to fend off the other Whispers... And after each one, Aerith seems to know " a little more" about what's going on when she is with you as you fight them. After an onslaught of them, Aerith is finishing sentences... but at the end, she doesn't know why she did something... she feels that each time one of them (the pinkish purple ones) touch her, she "loses a part of herself"... because her future self is merging thoughts, memories, feelings with her and influencing her.

Midgar is a massive zone that took a minimum 5 hours to 10 hours max in the OG, the amount of story that went off in there pretty should've been its own disc, while everything between midgar and Nibelheim is roughly the same amount of time (as you have Kalm/flashback, Junon/costa, coral/saucer, canyon/nibelheim as the main hubs) plus it would be amazing if part 2 begins with cloud explaining sephiroth and ending with the gang at nibelheim with a crazy crowd trying to capture them with a beefed up materia keeper blocking the way out in the mountains.

Your channel is so valuable in our FF community.

Vincent: It's haaaaiiiii nuuuuunnn. Proceeds to unload into the enemies

Pez I swear to god bro.. If you hype me up this bad for Vincent being godmode and they just don't go that route and he turns out to be just some noob guy that can transform into monsters as a limit like in og I'll be so crushed.. Vincent is low key my fav ff7 character 🤔

*10 seconds in... just wanna say i always thought ending part 2 right after getting Vincent (as guest character a la Nanaki) would be an excellent point to end at. Of course with a lot of rewriting and fleshing out of the story. Setting up Vincent to be a major part of the story as opposed to OG. Okay, now i watch!!*

Before i even watch the video i just gotta say, i love the fact that the next video in this playlist is Vulfpeck - Live at MSG

Cant wait for Vincent, Cid, the Tifa and Scarlet Slap mini game, Cosmo Canyon, Cid's rocket to Space, the Emerald Weapon, Ruby Weapon and the Hades Summon Materia✌

it would make sense to end it in Nibelheim, they would already have the asset rendered for the flashback and the actual visit. You will gain more prospective on each of the characters in Cosmo canyon sitting around the fire while RedXIII tells his sad back-story to the group. (prepare to cry!) Or something totally new will happen and we will get to use a soft or golden needle on the totally random statue-thing that I'm not going to name for fear of spoiling a good story for some one who never played the original ff7.

YES I've been saying Shinra building is the literally perfect stopping point for how they want the pace to be going and if they're still wanting to hit all the original's beats.

If you read through the item descriptions, Lucrecia and Prof Grimoire hypothesize that "Chaos will arrive at the Lake 'at the chosen time'" after the tablet. And the description for the proto-materia says "Said to be the means of destruction, or salvation to the planet in its gravest of times, born from the Lifestream itself" I think that whole "Is my son dead?" from Lucretia is going to be waaaaaay more important in this game than we think lol

@finalfantasypeasant There’s a scene in advent children where Rufus and Kadaj are having a conversation about history repeating itself and Rufus tells Kadaj keep bringing your jenovas and sephiroths and we will beat you every single time. I think they’ve created a new timeline where cloud is linked and sephiroth and Areith both understand this

I really enjoy your theories bud. I definitely think Vincent will have a much bigger role in Remake then he had in OG, given the representation he has in the compilation.

Could Sephiroth be trying to turn Cloud into a "new Sephiroth" in the remake? Knowing how it ended in the OG game with Cloud defeating him? I can be totally wrong but I'm 90% sure in this new timeline Sephiroth is already dead (willingly, to modifiy following events) and is manipulating the story and navigating through the lifestream, like Aerith once did in the OG game. Making Cloud becoming even more powerful than he was already destined to become by gathering more darkness and negative energy to ultimately turn him into a more ominous threat than Sephiroth himself was in the OG story. Sorry for my rambbling

* ultra speedy articulation * Foan'fancyRemaykPa'Two!!! Love ya Pez, your excitement and energy is infectious, contagious, it should be a pandemic

First time posting, lurked for awhile. Love your content and trying to theory craft elements of 7's world! FF7 was my first Final Fantasy and I love it still to this day. Vincent is a BIG problem for just about everyone, not just Sephiroth. Me and my friend have theory crafted an idea and would love to run it by you. Meteor...is a red herring. The thing that gets me is everything in Dirge of Cerberus will probably be tied into this retelling and not just Vincent, but the Proto Materia is gonna be the key for Sephiroth/Jenova to "achieve their goal". Chaos arrives to take out the negative energy and Omega Weapon will appear to siphon the good life stream and then "sail the cosmos" to find a new planet to start over anew. So, let's say towards the end Meteor gets stopped by Holy, but of course leaves some damage on the Planet. Something tells me Meteor is going to be used to trick the Planet into thinking it is about to expire, Omega Weapon appears and starts to do its thing...but Sephiroth/Jenova are there controlling it (Proto Materia). The image of Omega Weapon corrupted by Jenova is terrifying and would fit with "Sailing the Cosmos, just as my Mother did all those years ago" makes me think this could be the possible endgame. Of course this is just a fun theory to consider. Keep up the great work!

Wonderful stuff Pez!!! Hopefully all of these theories are relatively true, they are all very plausible. This stuff can shape FFVII as a whole into something so crazy, heart-wrenching, and epic. For Vincent, I always figured he should have had a bigger role after seeing that FFVII cutscene with Lucrecia and him being a Turk and everything...I suppose that's why Dirge of Cerberus was made. Maybe we'll be able to get a ton more context from him in the remake story, he might also have some clairvoyance on what's going on, like Aerith. I was wondering about Nibelheim being the place of nightmares...Is it because the first reactor holding Jenova is there causing so much anguish and making people go mad? Because, at that time, Jenova was still a whole being, while in the drum it doesn't really happen because it's not complete. Maybe Jenova's head having the brain and Sephiroth taking it into the depths of the lifestream is what allows Sephiroth to do what he does. Of course later on reunion happens and I guess all of Jenova disperses into the lifestream...isn't that somehow worse? Jenova just sucks haha. But then on to another point, I wanted to do a ton of research on this stuff and you're far more knowledgeable on this stuff, but because of the many references to FFX in FFVII...can we safely apply many of the same universal rules from X to VII?...Light and dark Aeons representing dreams and nightmares...all the general talk of dreams and sin...Midgar existing in the singularity space seems so similar to Tidus existing in the Zanarkand space...and Auron is like Sephiroth in that he's like an oracle between each reality. There's so much stuff to look at, I know you've mentioned a lot of this stuff in previous videos as well, like death and the farplane with memories and everything...it's all so interesting and cool to think about!

In terms of the original game it would make sense to end at Nibelheim since it's got to be a pivotal moment in the story BUT I don't think it'll happen. There's too much to happen before hand and also there's every chance it'll end on a totally new segment of the game sandwiched in-between something we've seen in the original. That would make sense since it's effectively a new game.

37:57 sneaky Yuffie off to steal your materia in the background

Wonder if Diabolos could play a role in the Remake, interesting to note how the summon was in 6 and 8 but skipped 7. I could see the entity being used as a reason behind Nibelheim's negativity, a domain where despair exist by corrupting the dreams of the inhabitants within. Now if Vincent falls into the same situation as Aerith, I wonder if his outlook on the scenario could be different, would he know right away that Aerith is lying about how much she knows and try to call her out on it? Thinking on it, with both Vincent and Yuffie, they are very interesting characters to work into the Remake, since their "optional" nature didn't put them to strongly into the plot, while they hide their own side stories their overall success to the main scenario in reality is that they weren't needed. I wouldn't be surprised if the Final Boss of Part 2 was Vincent being consumed by the negativity of Diabolos and fighting a Dream World Version of Chaos in dream state, where it's Aerith who has to bring light to the situation in order to give the heroes a chance of fighting back.

Dayum! Solid theory... I hope the story goes to something like this

This is exactly what I predicted when discussing with friends too. Down to a T actually. Start with Clouds recollection of Nibelheim, end with modern Nibelheim and a final battle on Mt Nibel, where Sephiroth first learned the truth. Its poetic from a narrative point of view and still covers about the same amount of game as Part 1. I even suggested Vincent being an uncontrollable guest for the last chapter. Chapter 1: Nibelheim flashback, tutorials. Chapter 2: Kalm, likely Shinra encounters while hunting for Avalanche. Chapter 3: Grasslands Area, Yuffie encounter. Chapter 4: Marshlands. Chapter 5: Mythril Mine Etc. I've actually plotted out a full 18 chapter part 2, and including now-mandatory Yuffie, Ft Condor and Gongaga, and it ends with chapter 17 and 18 in Nibelheim and Mt Nibel respectively.

I'm tripping out right now, you got me tripping out right now. 👁👄👁

this analysis is brilliant

That internal lifestream thing, I do wonder if the only way to get a good ending out of all this is to fix Sephiroth somehow by neutralizing the negative with the positive. Cus... killing him, killing in general, seems to just empower him/Jenova, if my understanding of the whole purple/yellow, negative/positive, battle for the Soul of the Planet thing we have going on here is accurate. If balance is the point, then how do you solve the main conflict without it? You can't. Killing Sephiroth, Sephiroth killing, just adds more negative to the pile and throws it all further out of whack. I dunno. Ever since Aerith's speech on the bridge about how the reason Seph is the threat to the planet, the reason he's so "wrong", is shown in the cries of the planet "rolling off his back", I felt like they're saying the solution to all this is to get thru to him and restore his empathy/humanity somehow. Cus otherwise, he rezzes, he time travels; killing him doesn't work. Saving him might. Though that might just be my love of redemption arcs talking. I do feel like Sephiroth is a tragic figure.

i'm convinced FFVII remake is going to mirror Machinabridged in terms or where the parts begin and end

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Vincent well be brilliant to control, he has a lot of aerial/acrobatic shooting attacks. And of course if we'll get to control him as chaos, we couldn't in the original. I hope there's more involvement between him and the young newer turks, where he was one.

I've been saying it since I beat the game. The way they are redoing the story they are going to make Yuffie and Vincent more integrated into the story which means changes and additional content.

Got goosebumps tyvm

Bruh your theories are so believable they are pretty much official cannon to me

It would be epic to See Sephy and Vincent battle! Moreover Vincent`s Chaos and Galian Beast forms too! though maybe or maybe not ...about him ending FF7Remake...though whatever it is it will be awesome!!

Interesting theory and i wholeheartedly agree with vincent being a integral part with facing sephy. Imo, i think how its gonna go is sephys going to try corrupting weiss or become the embodiment of darkness that omega senses this and activates. The original explanation i remember from doc was that omega only activates when the planet is about to die and chaos is the reaper that takes all souls on the planet to return them to the lifestream for omega to harvest. This is where deepground comes into play. If sephy essentially corrupts the lifestream fully, it could trick omega into thinking that the planet is dying because itll sense all the negative emotions gathered into the lifestream. How will that happen? By executing what deepground did in doc and only taking ppl with negative emotions into the lifestream. Thats probably why he wont kill aerith and how zack couldve survived. He knows that their internal lifestreams wnt be corrupted thus he doesnt want them in his lifestream so he manipulated events in zacks scenario so he wouldnt die and get absorbed. I also have a feeling that sephys going to kill barret and the others after putting them into despair so as to strengthen his dark stream as well as torture cloud. He knows how much tifa means to cloud fer example and if he seperates aerith and kills tifa, cloud doesnt have anything to stop him from falling into despair. By gathering only the purest forms of negative emotion into the lifestream, omega will activate as well as chaos. Vincent will have to fight a corrupted omega and lucrecia may even sacrifice herself as an alternative to the proto materia to get vincent to keep chaos under control. After vincent defeats omega and stops it from launching, he helps cloud and zack enter the core of omega where sephy is waiting. Either way, is nomura so im expecting some crazy ass plot points

As much as I would love to see Vincent sooner than later. I think the best place they could stop the second episode would be after Cosmo Canyon concludes and the buggy is repaired. Thinking about all of the content still to be seen until that point. I imagine part 2 will open up in Kalm during the flashback. There is still the chocobo farm/zolem marsh/cavern, Fort Condor(which may or may not be optional.) Finding Yuffie/Junon. The ship ride to Costa del Sol. Mt. Coral which led to Gold Saucer, the introduction of Cait Sith and the Coral prison. The chocobo race and buggy which then opened up numerous other areas. Eventually leading to Gongaga, which I feel is going to be expanded even further than before and finally to Cosmo Canyon itself. The creators talk about trying to expand on the content already known to most while also trying to introduce more information that they couldn't convey in the original FF7. Somewhere along the line though they are going to have to cut certain content. However I can see episode 3 beginning with the rediscovery of Nibelheim and the introduction to Vincent and his flashback, and the progression of the story.

Imma call it here.... we start in midgar again .... and play cloud when zack is alive

You forget Barrett’s home town and gold saucer and desert prison way more to build

Before watching this video I’d like to say, a friendly battle against Vincent to obtain him would be awesome. Maybe it would be too much like the Rufus fight, but Vincent can turn into demons and such

Vincent materia is interesting I’ve always thought because of the way materia is made through the lifestream and Vincent’s lifestream that Vincent created that within him that’s why he’s always had the ability he has manifested it in physical form of the material

I think it should end when a certain someone gets Sephiroth'd... The reason is because of the feeling afterwars. Remember the first time, when it happened, then the disc ends and you're staring at that screen, no music, just "please insert disc 2" while you sit there quietly taking in what just happened.. and it was perfect because it made you take it in for a moment. also if it ends earlier I feel like the game will either be rushed towards the end or we will just have 28 discs of FF7

Theres potential for everything from Dreamweaver Jenova fight onward to be a hallucination. Jenova has done more large scale life like hallucinations before.

Man, the dream and nightmare themes are so on point. I’m on board, where’s my standard issue tinfoil hat?

Some people: NOOO!!!!1!1111!!! Nomura turning ff7 into kingdom hearts! Actual deep lore of ff7: Haha, jokes on you! I always was this way!

Im fully on board with a lot of things happening in remake differently because they are simply Jenova illusions. Its entirely possible all of the whispers arent real. It was Jenova fucking with peoples heads under Sephiroths control and once it was released from Hojos grasp it had the strength to create the arbitor to fool the party into thinking they achieved a major victory that could change the tides of fate.

Absolutely love this theory.

Oooooh man time to get cozy