Kyle and OOS team made a great move to bring Francie in for reviewing the VinFast VF8. Thank you Francie and Jordan for the lovely and informative video about the VF8 and the Tesla MY Performance. Jordan did a fine job filming beautiful footages of the VF8. I wonder how did you both keep the EVs spotless clean throughout the long trip. The TMY is hip and futuristic looking. Love Tesla responsive screen and detailed navigation/driving app. The VF8 design is very sexy and the deep ocean color looks very unique. VF8 interior design looks luxurious at night with the ambient color lights. I envied every time Jordan showed off Kyle’s MY charging cover popping up on its own, as well as Tesla’s flawless charging process. To Francie: As an owner of a VF8 Plus City Edition 2023 for the past 11 months in Sacramento, California, I can related to your excitement and frustration with your VF8 in the early days. I like the fact that you always spoke from your heart and shared your true user experience which is very valuable to the public, especially the general public, many of whom are not familiar with electric car. I appreciated that you often reminded viewers (and your driving partners) that you wanted to share your own voice -- to include in the videos the VF8 unique experience with its comfort, beauty, and performance strength, along with its software imperfection. Your big smiles throughout the video showed your enjoyment and comfortable with your VF8. I can tell your dog is very happy in the back seats because it’s very roomy. What you experienced in this video is what most new non-Tesla EV owners would experience in variety of levels in the beginning, learning new tech and new experience of driving a high tech EV and the somewhat challenge with adaption to public charging. I have witnessed many EV owners from major brands struggled in the charging stations with connection and app errors, and in many cases, because new owners not yet familiar with the EV’s features or the app settings. It’s a good idea to have all major EV charging apps installed and setup on your phone and keep the apps up to date, so you don’t have to download and install the apps (in order to charge your EV) in the middle of nowhere with weak internet. I always used VinFast app but sometimes I have to use EA or EVgo apps if VinFast app have issues, such as not recognizing the charge station I am at. I look forward to your future videos about home charging experience. I had a few connecting issues with home charging in the early days, but it’s been stable and no issues after I installed a power divider/stabilizer unit (we have 2 EVs). ADAS: I also experienced the self driving not available a few times while the car in operation: my body or head moved away too long while searching for stuffs in the other seats, messed with the settings on the screen too long while driving, when someone in the back seat moving a lot and not using seatbelt, during heavy rains, wet road surfaces, low sun angles with bright reflections from the ground - which may interfered with the camera’s ability to collect data from lane lines. It’s better not to use ADAS in these road conditions for safety reason anyway. As far as the software/hardware on the VF8, these are items on my current wish list: 1. Reduce loading time for 360-Camera app to 30 seconds (currently ~100 seconds) 2. Lock user settings (sometimes settings for HUD and lane keeping assist go back to default settings after operation) 3. Higher resolution screen with faster response time 4. Higher resolution for all the cameras, especially rear cams 5. Include L/R signal arrows in the HUD 6. Adjustable blinker signal sound (current volume is too loud and annoying) 7. Driver door handle lock/unlock button is clunky and sometimes hard to use, need to be more responsive 8. Key fob/keyless remote is too big and the design is not cool looking - A credit-card key like Tesla is cool 9. Back row seat back panels are way too heavy, a pain to fold and unfold manually 10. Power folding for the back row seat? Other than a few app resets during the early months, which required me to get out of the car and locked it for 10 minutes, I (and my family) have been enjoying our VF8 City Edition everyday. I am lucky that I never had a major issue with my VF8 that prevented me from driving. Again, thank you for sharing your VF8 user journey. Please let me know if you are interested in having me as a guest on one of your future VF8 podcasts. I’d be happy to share with you and the public my VF8 user experience. Nam Nguyen, VinFast VF8 Plus City Edition 2023 owner since 3/18/2023 Sacramento, California
Great I hope you and Francie would gather a lot of experience using VF8 cars for the community, I actually don't think that there are unforeseen cases, for example, when using ADAS, if the person sitting behind is not wearing a seat belt, this feature will not let you activate it, but in Francie's case, sitting Behind is a dog, Rafiki not wearing a seat belt and can run and jump, so ADAS is lazy and does not want to operate In addition, I also learn knowledge from others, such as the feedback: "Have a Vietnamese-American programmer responded to Vinfast that ADDAS mode still works when he is not in the driver's seat and this is not allowed in the US. Vinfast then updated to... " So ADAS not turn off completely when "not activated on screen", it is still somewhat responsible for the handover between Adas and controlling by driver Thank you all
Còn 1 thứ cấn cải thiện là quá trình sạc. Bây giờ, pin trên 40% sạc khá chậm. Cần sạc nhanh đến 85% cho dù mức pin thế nào. One more important improvement is rapidly charging up to 85%, like smartphone.
Add to the list - “sentry mode” to monitor the car and drive. - Invest in better camera and you don’t need a 2nd one and will save cost. - Use lighter materials to reduce weight and improve efficiency. - Too late for the current platform but the one to be built in NC, should have a flat floor. - The iPhone app and phone connectivity needs major improvement. Not sure if 4G should be there, where everyone is in 5G territory now. - Need to be able to charge using Tesla wall charger with a J1772 adapter. I own a MY and there were issues charging the VF8. I had to buy another J1772 wall charger. Not very smart or cost effective. - For charging apps. This is not a Vinfast issue but a non-sense in the industry. Can you imagine if your ICE car can only fill up at either a Shell or Exxon station?
@@NanoSchaapHi, about "use lighter material to reduce weight "... I think VF has defaulted to using sturdy materials even though it makes the car heavier and consumes more battery, because this decision ensures safety that is worth more than other options In crash tests, the VF8 was not deformed the passenger compartment at all , and not pushed out of its lane, because too heavy. Although this does not increase test scores, it is highly practical because if the car is thrown out of the lane, it will be hit a second time by other vehicles running, or slide off the road and fall into the abyss. In fact, there are many videos about collisions with Vinfast cars, it is of course damaged but still in position There was a video of a container truck colliding with the side of Vf's vehicle, Vf did not roll off the road Personally, I think that even though the other cars in the test with their deformed passenger compartment and pushed out of the lane, that was not important in scoring. The important thing was the airbags and the safety of the dummy, but if they were secondary collisions due to being pushed into another lane of traffic then ...? Sorry for long reply
I’m in the middle of a road trip in my VF8. Raleigh NC to Beech Mountain Resort. Averaged 2.7 mi/kWh on the way up; didn’t need to stop to recharge. From the 200 mile trip, it appears to have a highway range of around 250 miles at 70+ mph. Temps dropped into the teens today; my battery temp was 23.8 degrees Fahrenheit at the beginning of today and my efficiency dropped to 2.3 mi/kWh. But overall the vehicle has performed well.
@@quangsontran766 He's a Vietnamese guy impersonating himself. There are a lot of them, they jumped in and pretended to be names of Indian, Indonesian, and Thai countries to comment and defame Vinfast
@@高朗-g7bTôi hy vọng bạn có cài dịch thuật hoặc tốt nhất bạn là người có chút dính dáng đến nguồn gốc Việt. Bạn nói rằng bạn bôi xấu Vinfast là để cảnh báo khách hàng và nói sự thật về họ, tôi cười nhếch mép vì ngụy biện này của bạn. Nếu bạn không chịu được khi thấy Vinfast hoặc bất cứ công ty nào của Việt Nam thành công thì bạn nên tập trung vào việc tìm hiểu xem bạn có đang trở thành kẻ dở hơi và bị hâm không?
The VF8 looks good, is the right size and they made the battery big enough to account for the efficiency differences between Tesla and the Vinfast. Also, Francie, I think the reason autosteering kept failing is because you would look away from the road and block the sensor with your arm. The sensor can also tell you are on your phone recording. Seemed to be one or multiple of those things would happen each time the autosteering features failed. Enjoy the new ride!
Great content. Vinfast made it to your destination. Hopefully those bugs are fixed in timely manner. More competition is good for the consumer. More Vinfast follow-ups would be awesome.
This is a great RU-vid series on a brand new to the US consumer. Thank you for sharing your experiences. Very informative and the vinfast brand and American consumers can benefit from this series. I’m intrigued.
What I'm impressed with is she seems like an EV nerd as well. She was getting footage of all the right stuff: battery temp, preconditioning, charging speeds, and so on.
Seems like the Vinfast is much more improved from the last year model Kyle tested (and lambasted) but there's still teething issues with software. Still not a bad effort.
Francie I like the color of your car and you even wore a green sweater to go along with it. Nice road trip video. It is a nice 1st ev I still have my 2012 leaf that can only go 30 miles between charges . Jordan needs to appreciate his opportunities of driving so many nice cars . It is a first attempt for vin fast and should not be compared to tesla. It was nice of Kyle to do this . We need more under 50 k cars. Keep up the good work Francie
I traded in my 2012 Leaf in 2022 for a Mach E Premium long range. It still had the original tires!😂 35k miles and 35 miles of range remaining. It was the perfect city runabout.
This car is used a lot in Vietnam and is very popular, due to its low price and very good quality. However, there are a few small errors but they are not worth worrying about. Overall, this car is worth buying.
Francie the reason it stops self driving is because you keep taking your eyes off the road. It's doing what it is suppose to do. (yes the sun as well) VinFast adding Charging stops, the Bolt and ID 4 do the same thing ..just drive past it.They are just suggestions you had way more range than need to get to your destination . Overall the VinFast though looks very very nice for the money (on the lease) . $250 a month for 3 years for a EV with as much if not more range the the Model Y .. hell yes. It looks nice, rides , nice , good range , charging speed is fine for most . They just need to get the software bugs sorted out.. all EVs had or have software issue.. the Blazer is ona stop sell right now because of software issues and GM has paused the equinox sales for the same issue. Francie also do lke Kyle does and get to as low soc as you feel comfortable before charging , you'll get much fast charging , perheating the battery makes little difference in charging speed if you are pulling in at 35-50% SOC Jordan is Elon playing games with the Tesla charging numbers? Why is it saying 35 minutes to 80% when you are at 35% soc ? MY ID 4 takes 30-35 minutes (from 15%) to get to 75-80% even on cold days and slower charging rate . 100-135kW . Teslas looks are outdated , everyone has one , nothing special about them anymore. Francie a newbie ev driver in the VinFast with slightly larger battery was able to drive just as fast , just as far as the Model Y. AND it looks like a real car ! Like to see what the VinFast gets on the Magic Dock when it's in Colorado..assuming similar ot ID 4 135kW.
Look what happen with the GM Blazer, great to see that Vinfast was able to deliver a EV that could do 800 mile trip without any real issue, so what are you doing GM, that is the question as they have been building EV for a lot longer than Vinfast and yet many car reviewers have had major issues with the Blazer!
Great Video. Thoroughly enjoyed parts 1 & 2 Look forward to seeing more from Francie with this car, she is so bubbly she must be great to be around, and did not panic about her odd experiences with this car she just took it all in her stride. :)
I've really enjoyed watching this 2-parter - a bit less frenetic than Kyle's road trips and felt very genuine and thoughtful. Francie, you are coming into your own as a OOS on-air personality!
If I owned a similar VinFast car... I would install a small lip at the top of the screen to help with sunshine and screen reading. Thank you for a great video. It was a bit like being on a roadtrip with you. 😀
New road trip team!! Love so many parts of this. The blinker, the vin, the fun, the doggies. Interesting car definitely not for me since I do road trips often. Hope they can do the physics fix on a OTA update. 😢
I'm wondering if cleaning the cameras would help the auto-driving. This Vinfast V8 is quite interesting. Seems like a nice ride. Any of these new EVs with software & apps need ton of catch up to Tesla. Auto industry has also now become a software required industry. They are all going take years of headaches to improve. Thanks for all the reporting!
20:14 may be her hand over and so blocks the camera When you hold the steering wheel with one hand and turn it up, the hand will block the camera from looking at you. If camera not see the driver face, VF may not allow auto pilot
@@FoursixtwoZeroninesupernam is promoting VF8 for vinfast so what about him? Speaking Vietnamese only. Be smart next time, this room is preferring to English speaking
@@Eagletran99 believe in the US government and European countries. believe in NCAP's star count. American consumer and lover of America, should completely believe that a car sold in the US is a quality car and NCAP is the high standard of all car manufacturers around the world, instead of believing in A group of traitors who left their homeland in 1975 are calling day and night to boycott the car because it is made in Vietnam..like you
Honestly, for the price/lease, it's really a nice looking vehicle. I think a lot of the 'kinks' may be resolved with time and updates. Time will tell, so I am interested with your future vids. :)
Update: I see the reason for this case, @NGUYEN-TUAN-1975: "From 1:00:00 to 1:00:51 , 51 second without holding the wheel, no warning messages. Normal case, VF8 will pop up every 15 -17 seconds, and at least 3 times beforce adas stop. So, back a few minutes, i recognize you dont choose warning message, you choose OFF." So Vinfast's self-driving feature requires you to hold the steering wheel every 30 seconds Have a Vietnamese-American programmer responded to Vinfast that ADDAS mode still works when he is not in the driver's seat, and this is not allowed in the US. Vinfast then updated to only turn on ADDAS when it determines there is someone in the driver's seat. I think these problems may come from the car's sensors or cameras.
One other thing I'd like to add about the VinFast is its a bit of a retro Angular/muscular look getting away from the "girly" looks of cars .... I mean look at the Tesla ..nothing about says testosterone.. I think the VinFast is going to do very well with the "men should be men "crowd. (The no way in H am I driving a Prius/Tesla people)
thank you and team have give Vinfast a chance, as Vietnamese, we are all appriciate and very happy with this, please help to give your comment to Vinfast for their improvement. Together we can go futher.
I think the car looks fine. There are other cars I think look better, but it is one I would not mind driving. I will be very interested in seeing the actual charging curve.
Great video and loved how it was edited... it seems the brand has a way to go in the EV world. Will be interested to see how this brand goes in the future....
If your vehicle is giving you a lot of problems take it to the dealer and ask them to check the computer or the chips or the fuse it could be one of them
Wow!! The last few minutes sum up why I take YT car reviews with a “grain of salt.” Jordan rips the car that Francie just drove 800 miles in with an optimistic but transparent comments. I’ll take Francie’s review style all day.
Seems there is somewhat of interest in the Vinfast based on the views in the short timeframe compare to other content with less views. It's a new company to the EV market in US so I feel there is much prejudice towards the car. I feel the guy in the video and Kyle "try" to be funny by knocking it down. Let's give the company a chance, be truthful and see where it goes. I own a Tesla and by far I will never consider that "luxury" however, engineering and technology is phenomenal in Teslas.
So glad you got an EV. Good thing you are a patient person and persist with the bugs of a new model. I wonder if cleaning the exterior cameras might help with highway assistance? I hope they do lots of updates and address your issues
Regarding energy consumption, VF8 is not only heavier than Model Y. VF8 is AWD, while Jondan's Model Y is RWD. Beside, VF8 has a lot more of lighting features. So, if Model Y equipted like VF8, it would spend same energy per km.
Great road trip. Francine, you’re really positive and enthusiastic. Jordan, you’re more like I am, pragmatic and blunt. What a team! Hope to see you both a lot more. Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤
From 1:00:00 to 1:00:51 , 51 second without hold the wheel, no warning messages. Normal case, VF8 will pop up every 15-17 seconds, and at least 3 times beforce adas stop. So, back a few minutes, at 58:03, i recognize you dont choose warning message, you choose OFF.
I love the vintage Out of Spec vibe: an EV road trip with dog(s)! I bet the Vinfast charge door opens to the front because when they tried having it open to the back it got ripped off in the wind once when the door opened while driving.
Im wondering at 20:14 may be her hand cover and so blocks the camera ?? When you hold the steering wheel with one hand and turn it up, the hand will block the camera from looking at you. If camera not see the driver face, VF may not allow auto pilot ??
front end reminds me of a Dacia Duster or a Renault. Doesn't look bad at all, it's different, I do like the rear end. Almost hyundai. I'm sure once the bugs are resolved it'll make for a real nice daily around towner. Now sure about long distance road trips. If they can get the charging down to 15-20 minutes at a time, you could make an argument for rest stops. Loving the series, keep it up.
So it does not only happen here in Viet Nam, people around the world don't check/read the handbook for using the car, I am not sure if I should hate myself or the Manufacturer :D
I wonder if the front camera needs a hood to help it combat lens flare? Clearly the self-driving feature is half-baked in this VinFast. The relative inefficiency v.s. the Tesla is also unhelpful. But honestly this is a better review than I anticipated it receiving.
At 8:23 you talked about wanting a battery preconditioning button (which would be great) but would have provided no help with this charge. You only drove how far to the charger? Also stop driving in Eco mode if you want to warm the battery more.
The self driving disconnect problem seems very annoying. I'm wondering if they rushed the car out to you too fast and didn't clean the outside cameras properly. Did you wipe down the cameras at each charging stop? There might be a film of some sort on one of the cameras or bugs or something. I would suggest keeping two microfiber cloths in the car. One for cleaning exterior cameras and radar and the other for those pesky fingerprints all over the display screen. I love the head up display. Lots of info available on the screens when finally connected properly. Looking forward to Francie's future adventures with Spring Roll. I really appreciate Jordan for stepping up and getting Francie home safely. He's wonderful and a true gentleman. Not that Francie couldn't handle this situation herself as she's proven to be quite capable. But I'm old school (VERY) and became very concerned for Francie and her furbaby's safety. Kudos, Francie. I'm a big fan. Keep it coming, please.
20:14 may be her hand blocked the camera when passed between camera and face When you hold the steering wheel with one hand and turn it up, the hand will block the camera from looking at you. If camera not see the driver face, VF may not allow auto pilot. You can see clips on @superNamn channel , he drives ADAS on VF8 everyday
I would have to carry screen cleaner with me if I had one of those VINFast vehicles. Those screen pick up a lot of fingerprints. I’m surprised you could read the screen.
Alabama state capital is Montgomery, by the way. With respect to the charge cover door, rear hinging it would have made it a "suicide door", catching the wind if you forget to close and latch it. Side charge doors will always be hinged at the front.
Every 15-17 seconds, Vinfast will pop up a warning message to check driver, so you have to take a wheel to accept to continue. After 2 yellow messages and 1 red yellow message, ADAS will make alarms sound to warn you beforce VF8 stop ADAS. In Fancie case 1:00:30, i dont see any message to remind.
I thought it was odd how they were talking about site host keeping the area clean at Bucees as Francie was throwing fistfuls of dog hair on the ground and letting it blow across the parking lot.
