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Vincius gets chocked for 10 seconds then he slaps back in retaliation, gets a red card, and nothing happens to the other player? Absolute absurdity by La Liga
Don't be an idiot. LaLiga and the ref didn't give him a red because he's black but because he slapped a Valencia player and THAT is what the ref saw on the screen. We only saw the choke way after on the slow motion replays.
You may have it there. They probably don't even realise it as some of them may be racist all their lives. Others are racist for their own gains as in selectively. But yes racists.
It's not just Spain in La Liga!! Racism and hate crimes are everywhere done by every race in the world maybe except Asians. . Look at hate crimes committed by blacks and whites and Hispanics against innocent Asians in the U.S.!! Stop racism!!
I was present at the match today in Mestalla. The red card was unbelievable. And yes, spaniards are in general racists and they truly believe they're not. Sad but true.
DIGNITY AND ABILITY x RACISM - Do spanish supporters believe they will stop this boy with so stupid racism? No, of course they won't. The more those bastards insist on it, the more motivated he will become. We brazilians are very proud of Vinicius and his enormous courage to face those spanish cowards who can not stand with the wonderful bright and success from Vini's STAR. Valencia should be banned from international games because it is time to evolution. Once no respect is found, hard respective punishment can't be avoided!
@@netopierro10 bruh 💀 esto es un absurdo... argentinos hacen el miesmo con nosotros brasilenos y dicen la miesma mierda, que es solamente una "brincadeira"
And then you blame Arabs for occupying them for 800 years, we tried to civilize them, we gave them the best architecture in Europe, and made them the most prosperous country in Europe back then, yet we failed. Soon after we left they ran the judeochristian transatlantic slave trade
Nah its not, you play in England, Germany, France; Northern European countries you don't find racism on game days...like you do in Spain & Italy. Must be the hot weather, or maybe they're repenting quickidy split
@@BC-mj7gjNonsense. You think somehow non western nations aren't racist? LOOOOOOOOOL That's delusional! You think places like China, India, Russia, Africa, etc don't have racism? The entire world is racist. Most places more than the west. In most places it's just a given and it doesn't even make the news, it's just standard behavior. Trying to get rid of racism is like trying to get rid of all crime. It's not realistic. It will always exist no matter how much the media tries to condemn it. Is it fair? No. But life isn't fair in general. Expecting everyone to be on their best behavior and be respectful is just a pipe dream. Even in countries where everyone is the same color fans will still abuse players and hurl insults. People will always find a way to hate and discriminate others.
I am from Spain, a Barca supporter, I am so ashamed for something that has happened for decades in stadiums, and up until now with Vini, it wasn't called out enough. This is miserable from those who chant racist slurs or call someone something like that
tnx for saying that as a barca fan that hate madrid (im a madrid fan i know the feeling) plz no one watch valencia anymore (or anyother team that are not human like them) they should ban 10 games
it's a tiny minority so why should all fans in a stadium pay ?? seguro eres un blanco que odia a si mismo por ser blanco. que pasa con la actitud de vinicius? que pasa con los insultos a otros? a GUardiola en el bernabeu?? ah perdona, es blanco entonces no importa, verdad?
No other players or officials heard what Vini says he heard, and there's no audio of it. Also, we're supposed to believe he heard a single individual say something from 20 yards away in a stadium filled with 40,000 screaming fans, and Vini was looking directly at that individual when he said it? Sure.
As a Madridista, i do not want Vini to leave. it’s quite clear that La Liga aren’t going to protect him and Real Madrid not putting special measures in place (e.g walking out). What further disappoints me is that a senior Real Madrid players (Kroos, Modric, Benzema) were watching a young man being racially abused and tormented by the fans and opposing players and they stood by and watched it all happen. Respect to Lucas Vasquez who stood up to these horrible people.
Protect him? Ronaldinho everytime he played at bernabeu was called xenophobic insults but he kept it professional and spoke on the pitch and never acted like a wimp pointing at rival fans. Vini was wrong because his should be on the pitch.
have we ever questioned why its always Vini Jr. Ronaldinho, Militao, Robinho, Ronaldo, Romario, Rivaldo, Rodrygo etc. play/played in La Liga and were arguably just as good if not better. why's Vini Jr the one always complaining? there is racisim in almost every country but that doesnt make the country a racist country and i think that statement will come back to get him!
I'm a Barcelona fan, I was watching the Valencia vs Real Madrid match earlier today, immediately I saw what happened to Vini, I switched off my TV because racism is unacceptable in any place in the world. Vini be strong, together we will get over racism
Oh wow me too, I dont know why but it really hurt me seeing him desperately calling the Officials and Valencia fans pushing him back on the pitch instead of standing with him.
@ns horus he racially abused fans?!?! Think for a second about your excuse...he is playing at the top level, has a right to showoff just like Ronaldo and Messi and Zlatan...but because he's black, he deserves racial abuse...????
DIGNITY AND ABILITY x RACISM - Do spanish supporters believe they will stop this boy with so stupid racism? No, of course they won't. The more those bastards insist on it, the more motivated he will become. We brazilians are very proud of Vinicius and his enormous courage to face those spanish cowards who can not stand with the wonderful bright and success from Vini's STAR. Valencia should be banned from international games because it is time to evolution. Once no respect is found, hard respective punishment can't be avoided!
And then you blame Arabs for occupying them for 800 years, we tried to civilize them, we gave them the best architecture in Europe, and made them the most prosperous country in Europe back then, yet we failed. Soon after we left they ran the judeochristian transatlantic slave trade
Let me get this straight... 1.Vini got racial abused by the entire stadium, 2.a player attacks him and chokes him 3. Vini hits back to defend himself 4. But the referee decides to show Vini a straight red card for defending himself. 5. Finally, Referee team didn't mention the racial abuse in their report.
He was provoking Araujo in the last clasico, and was provoking the valencia supporters the whole match, him paying attention to the people just make things worse and it gets transmitted to the players of the rival team, I don't remember anything like this, not even with Neymar who made rival teams cry cuz of his skills
As a huge fan of Spanish football I agree with Vinicius . Real Madrid haters never show their anger on Florentino Perez who deserves all of it instead they pick on Vinicius due to specific obvious reason having said that it will be better if Vinicius moves himself out of Spain to a club in a different country, he has clearly had enough and understandably so
@@mujtababarati9423 casillas , Raul , cr7 , Ramos all club legends were insulted by Perez and his cronies . Don’t think rm fans did anything inappropriate to them .
@@Pufazer3 never said rm fans very totally innocent and their racist chants on umtiti was as despicable as this behavior . Issue is Spanish club fans totally need to be re-educated as I see they have two issues 1) no sense of nationality (there is no support or preference for Spanish Born players ) from the fans esp of RM 2) they do make chants and are extra hostile when their opponent players are black . On both accounts British fans are much much better
as a guy who had bad exp with racism i can tell u , first thinks comes to ur mind is you are less human like u see them loving their dogs cats .. but a human with diffrent color not, means a dog is better , and vini should be able to control hisself and perform is a fckng joke
Good to see a fellow Belizean on here, greetings! 🇧🇿 ❤️ I respect those who stand up against racism, especially in football. It’s unacceptable to continue to acknowledge the issue and do nothing about it but it’s even more disgusting to turn a blind eye and pretend like these issues don’t exist when so many people are still experiencing racism.
I've been watching football for over 20 plus years, and I would say the 2 worst countries in the Big Leagues when it comes to racism are 1. Italy and 2. Spain. You see it in England too, but they seem to do a bit more, maybe because England is more diverse (you will never see a PM like Rishi Sunak in Spain or Italy in maybe 100 years). France has it too on an institutional level, like the abuse Tchouameni got after the World Cup, but France as a country is also more diverse. Spain and Italy are less diverse (and I'm sure there are more reasons) but the problem with these two countries is that it is just accepted more; the racism that is. It is a hush hush thing to protect the image, but clearly not enough is done about it. As a Barca fan, I have never seen Camp Nou done something like that, but I do remember our captain Busquets calling Marcelo a monkey / mono. It didn't make big news, they hush hush it very quickly. Now we all have a past with sins and some of us change, but the point is, Italy and Spain to me are examples of institutional racism that is not corrected. I don't know the answer, but if one really cared about how we treat people based on skin color, they would put pressure on those who can do something about it. We are all created by God, some are darker while some are lighter, and it is clear that the world does favor lighter complexions. As a black person, that was clear to me from since childhood/teenager years. We have no control over the complexion or race we are born into. I understand that using racism to put off a feared opponent is a useful strategy, but if that is what is tolerated, I understand with Vini...why would I want to play there anymore? But this is the system..Europe is the benchmark of this sport, and Europe is a primarily Anglo Saxon/ Caucasian continent with a past of racism. If the benchmark was elsewhere, maybe this would be different, but then again, racism is everywhere and in different forms, in America, in Asia, and also here in the Caribbean. It is a historical issue that is difficult to change. Only in the new earth when Jesus returns will racism be completely eradicated, that is why it is to enjoy this sport lightly, but don't take it too seriously. There are bigger things than football.
Honestly, I think he should. It's hard to obviously. He's been at that club for years and I'm sure he loves it there. He shouldn't have to move, because he did nothing wrong. But if another superstar leaves la Liga, that can make an impact
Respect for Vinicius JR to speak out! Now he needs support! Barca Fan. ✌🏻✌🏼✌🏽✌🏾✌🏿 And Tebas... it doesn't really makes me wonder, how he reacts. In Germany we have a saying: the fish stinks from the head...
U think the epl is better??? Maybe yall should stop antagonizing la liga and watch whats going on in ur little "epl fantasy land" cuz theres a reason england campaigns no room for racism cuz racism over there is like drugs lol.
So Tebas is ready to go through any legal route to go against state owned clubs and about “PL spending” but apparently his hands are tied when it comes to putting strict punishments for racism.
I think the teams in Spain are abusing Vini intentionally. He needs to leave Spain and go elsewhere to play his soccer. I don't believe his own club has done enough to protect arguably their best player.
You know what has to happen? Vini must leave and REFUSE to pay any fine for a break of contract, due to the abusive environment of the spanish championship that is allowed to happen and it's reasonable cause for Vini to take extreme measures. La Liga must pay Real Madrid for their loss. That would be THE precedent that would set things in motion. I doubt it will happen, because Vini loves Madrid, but I really wished something extreme happened so change could take place.
The likes of Benz, Kroos and Modric have certainly not done enough. Vini gets even more abuse than the "standard" garden variety la Liga racism that the likes of Eto'o, Neymar and Alves had to deal with because, unlike them, he does not have the likes of Puyol, Xavi etc defending him every time he gets fouled. We have no true leaders on the team who can argue with the refs on his behalf or fight back on his behalf when the opponent team get too dirty. If we still had the likes of Ramos and Pepe in the team, Vini would not be forced to argue his own case every single game. As it stands now, it is simply too easy to dismiss his complaints as "victim mentality". He needs to leave for the EPL as much as it hurts me to say this. He can go anywhere on earth and thrive. I would even be worried for his safety with the current level of tension. He is hated by all kinds of psychopathic hooligans.
Love Carlo a person of integrity and values. The Spanish news person from Marca equates racism with a player that reacted after being insulted from the moment the RM bus arrived at the stadium and no they did not call him only Tonto .He knows and everyone know they called him racist insults.
@@saif19845yo fan base ath madrid suffered from Vini skill set that’s why y’all have chosen to attack him with racism goofys can’t compete and most definitely jealous of the kid
Felt really sorry for Vini when he got dragged like that there by his neck, just after he received chants. Probably was pissed the whole time and why he also ''slapped'' the guy
And then you blame Arabs for occupying them for 800 years, we tried to civilize them, we gave them the best architecture in Europe, and made them the most prosperous country in Europe back then, yet we failed. Soon after we left they ran the judeochristian transatlantic slave trade
You cannot turn the other cheek, you have to hit this straight on with points deduction etc. And I agree, the team has to leave the pitch when it happens.
Exactly look what action fifa has taken against Mexico fans for the banned chant, why can't they push the same to these leagues where racism is an issue?!
@cc who is to stop other teams for wear opponents jersey and buying their tickets pretending to be fans and doing racist chants to get points deducted from opponents team.
I'm a Madrid fan, and I think he has to leave Spain if the country doesn't suit him. Spain is a racist country, we all know that. The leaders are probably laughing in their offices and insulting Vini.
@@familiasosa6379 every country has racists, agreed. But if you do that to a player in Brazil you go to jail and get banned from stadiums. What did happen so far in Spain?
@@familiasosa6379 If that thing happened here in Brazil.... mate, people would go to prison, points deduction, closing the stadium for some amount of games. 100%.
I am a barca fan and i stand with vinicius , no matter he's our rival or not but he's a human being too , how can you not have a heart when you literally see tears coming out from his eyes , last match whatever happened broke his heart and soul it has to be really disgraceful thing that these fans have done to make a player cry like that , i have my full support and we have to condemn this disgusting act by some toxic people who're not to be called as a human being , i appreciate vinicius courage to speaking for himself , no one should stand such racism .
La Liga and referees protect Vinicius. It was confirmed by analysis and video verification that he should have seen 6 red cards throughout the season. Saw none until today.
Tougher punishments for racism including points reductions should occur. The players should walk off. This cant carry on. We are with you Brother Vini Jr what a player ❤
Our heart goes out for Vini. The players of both teams should joined together n walk out n teach a lesson to the fans. All r equal in god's creation. N for
@@alvivino yup that's the huge difference, when Europeans come to Africa and Asia they don't get weird looks, any looks are more of a fascinated look. While if it' the other way around, Africans and Asians can get hateful stares or confused look as to why they're there.
Anyone who says they can’t advocate for players to leave the pitch. YOU are part of the PROBLEM. I say LEAVE. I remember when this happened to eto’o and ronaldinho walked OFF WITH HIM. and puyol as captain supported him. This is normal THERE. Uefa and fifa needs to take actions with this league.
I absolutely loathe Real Madrid but even I must admit that Vini's stand against the backwards fans of certain leagues is the one bright spot at that club. I think his days in Spain are numbered. I'd love to see him in the Prem.
I have been a fan of Madrid for 23 years, I watch all the matches. And now I understand why the Pers want the Super League. Spain, as a country of former fascism, does not understand what the problem of racism is, the same is true in Italy, for example. England in this regard is ahead of these countries by 100 years ahead. If this continues, Vinicius should go to England, where he will be taken away.
You are completely right. You can see that by the excuses people use to allow racism to continue "Oh, look, Rodrygo is not facing the same, so it's not racism to emulate a monkey, because they are only doing it to Vinicius!". It's shameful. People call Neymar an actor, and we do it in Brazil too, and it's fine. That's not what's happening to Vini. They are using racial slurs and they have thrown bananas on the pitch to insult him before. But hey, they'll deny it and call it just another Monday in Spain.
When Barcelona fans complained about Tebbas, many people laughed at us thinking that we were not serious. This guy lives in a different world, not on our own. He has got a very weird way of thinking and acting that nobody else but him understands.
@@jnbmos2 ESPN has acquired la liga license within the past year if anything ESPN been protecting la liga from their ugliness I don’t have explain the lack of coverage from barca gate racism and disgusting refereeing
Shaka give us the best take in terms of righteous indignation, but Craig's point is the one that sticks with me. If you're Jude Bellingham after seeing the scenes today, I would think you're asking yourself seriously of whether you want to join this league.
As an American, I lived in Sevilla in 2010 for three months and I noticed very harsh racist undertones the entire time I was there. I am white and look like a Spaniard (1/2 Italian), so I wasn't subjected to any abuse, but factory works, day labors and others I noticed in daily public life always seemed to be given the cold shoulder. I didn't realize it while I was there because there was nothing aimed at me, but when I moved home I started seeing images like Dani Alves eating a banana thrown at him and other instances of racism in football. It is digusting and I thought Spain was better than this, however, Shaka is 100 correct in that it is a systemic issue in the country and needs to be dealt with in an iron fist.
If i were Vini Junior i'd be looking at the Premiere League right now. There are atleast 5 to 6 clubs that will make a move for you all with plenty of money. Man City/Man Utd/Arsenal/Newcastle/Liverpool and possibly chelsea. At least 4 of those are in the Champions League. So yeah Vini Come to the Prem you will be a superstar and loved by fans.
Are drunk?? Vini aint turning down real madrid for any prem team lol. City already has a lot so they wont go for him but vini aint leaving spain stop chatting nonsense
One of the biggest tournaments in the world and can't even protect one of their best players in the league from racism. Not only that they also think he is in the wrong. To be best football league in the world does not only rquires how many fans or ucl you got. This type of things hugely matters too. Absolute disgrace from laliga.
Unfortunately, some people will never change. Racism will never go away as long as man exists. The type of people who do this will always find the most hurtful thing to call someone, whether it be racist, calling someone fat, mocking their appearance or their beliefs. They simply say the thing that will get the biggest reaction. The world will always have hateful, angry people. The best way to deal with these people, is to ignore them or ban them. Don't give them the reaction they crave.
If you really want to voice your opinion on this matter then hit them where it hurts, their wallet. I've cancelled my Spanish sports plus package from yttv and cancelled my ESPN+ subscription. I much rather watch UCL only and not La Liga. Honestly, the blatant racism in Spain is going to ruin this league. Vini will leave La Liga and he won't be the last and it will make the EPL over saturated with the best talent. The UCL will eventually be the Super EPL league.
