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@victorchui7254
@victorchui7254 4 года назад
The violin can’t play titanic like the recorder can tho.
@Emma-ob5oj
@Emma-ob5oj 4 года назад
victor chui haha
@lyphebliss7278
@lyphebliss7278 4 года назад
You mean the titanic meme 😂😂😂😂
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 4 года назад
But Ling Ling can
@lyphebliss7278
@lyphebliss7278 4 года назад
TwT
@ruty6099
@ruty6099 4 года назад
@@Koizumimichiko I mean technically yes the Recorder can even tho originally it was on a flute I believe. However all instruments makes everything sound nice just need to practice it
@elainewu4955
@elainewu4955 4 года назад
Not fair: we all know that Eddy can barely catch his breath when he’s just breathing. To put a recorder on him is basically bullying... Wow thanks for the likes (although I don’t know why you like this it’s so random and confusing lol 😂) hope everyone is well and practicing!
@reaganb6013
@reaganb6013 4 года назад
Maybe it's bc Brett nearly fainted while playing the clarinet (or some kind of wind instrument, I can't remember which it was) 😂
@angelawang7365
@angelawang7365 4 года назад
Well to be fair, recorder doesn’t take as much air as like flute or clarinet. He just isn’t tonguing properly rn so he’s blowing a lot more air then he needs to
@malahamavet
@malahamavet 4 года назад
Bullying to the recorder players
@blauespony1013
@blauespony1013 4 года назад
Conclusion: Eddy and Brett aren't anywhere near professional wind players.
@blueberrypoptart2424
@blueberrypoptart2424 4 года назад
Reagan Butrum compared to the clarinet the recorder takes like 0 air lol
@tiger_king0811
@tiger_king0811 4 года назад
Viola be like First time?
@lawrencemichael5571
@lawrencemichael5571 4 года назад
Viola and recorder be in the same boat.
@cicadaboi101
@cicadaboi101 4 года назад
I mean, at least viola is widely regarded as an actual instrument.
@trianglearchives5776
@trianglearchives5776 3 года назад
Triangles too
@aveekb4512
@aveekb4512 4 года назад
Recorder players: watching the video *triggered* Violists: *amateurs* This is a joke please dont kill me
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
Aveek B their viola “jokes” were stupid.
@aveekb4512
@aveekb4512 4 года назад
This video is too, its a silly video They're not trying to spread misinformation about the recorder player, they're just having fun like they do on their channel
@anjah2001
@anjah2001 4 года назад
I play both, i dont know if i should be offended or amused xD
@PauloSousa-cr8it
@PauloSousa-cr8it 4 года назад
meh a recorder player: oh dont worry I am not going to kill ya, I am just going to ask my friend that plays viola to see this coment and then Ill see what he will do... GOOD LUCK
@lemondedesetoiles4752
@lemondedesetoiles4752 4 года назад
Horace Kiang well... If you don’t like their channel and jokes, you can just pass your way haha
@lailajones8121
@lailajones8121 4 года назад
I guess quarantine finally got to them
@maxlee4949
@maxlee4949 4 года назад
Corelli Vivaldi
@bubbletea.5005
@bubbletea.5005 4 года назад
It was just a matter of time (":
@samajebrein4476
@samajebrein4476 4 года назад
😂😂😂👌👍
@HIBA_DA_LOLICON
@HIBA_DA_LOLICON 4 года назад
yup
@allegromoderato5064
@allegromoderato5064 4 года назад
Cabin fever 🤒
@greatvaluelingling2328
@greatvaluelingling2328 4 года назад
Wait a minute why does eddys nose recorder sound better than him using his mouth???????
@iYessicaH
@iYessicaH 4 года назад
Burnt my Ramen His nostrils have better air control. lol
@julied519
@julied519 4 года назад
I thought the same, that's simple, he was pushing/forcing too much air into the recorder with his mouth! Also wasn't a nice recorder! There's niver one for really cheap
@MiNUS-ax
@MiNUS-ax 4 года назад
It's also probably easier to articulate with your nose with a cheap recorder (I wouldn't know though lol)
@jasminjavahery8630
@jasminjavahery8630 4 года назад
He might've edited sound over it, but if he didn't, that's amazing!
@xangraneko2290
@xangraneko2290 4 года назад
asking the real question hahahaah
@jasmineheynderickx4744
@jasmineheynderickx4744 4 года назад
As a violist I can say I'm just happy to not be targeted this time 😂
@shiyuhe3499
@shiyuhe3499 4 года назад
Twoset: *Roast Viola* People: HAHAHAHAH Twoset: *roast recorder* People: WHAT DID YOU DO?!
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
The viola “jokes” were so stupid too. Grow up man.
@Jane306
@Jane306 4 года назад
hahahahhaa yeapp
@jasmineheynderickx4744
@jasmineheynderickx4744 4 года назад
@@shiyuhe3499 like eddy said, violists are good sports, we take it all 😏
@novastorm
@novastorm 4 года назад
You guys have a better sense of humor than recorder players, that's for sure. That is commendable.
@user-kp4wn3hy6w
@user-kp4wn3hy6w 4 года назад
Played recorder for years but I fell about laughing during this (it's a skit video y'all please don't take it too seriously)
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 4 года назад
So did I to be fair lmao
@maxboop
@maxboop 4 года назад
same
@KNArts
@KNArts 4 года назад
Lol same! I thought it was great XD
@mayaflautina6592
@mayaflautina6592 4 года назад
As a professional recorder player I can say that everything is possible on the recorder, eddy is just not capable to do it 😂
@lordmauriceortizlagartera162
@lordmauriceortizlagartera162 4 года назад
That's true
@maridioxido
@maridioxido 4 года назад
hell yeah.
@julec5263
@julec5263 4 года назад
Definitely
@flutesgalaxy
@flutesgalaxy 4 года назад
Everything??? I am playing flute and before that ı was playıng recorder and ı was pretty good at it,t when ı play flute ı feel''FREE'' but Recorder is like ''there's always a limit'' ı Don't know ı feel like that but ı love recorder it is my music reason and İT İs better than A VİOLA...
@epicminecrafter5404
@epicminecrafter5404 4 года назад
Mayaflautina even the chords?
@vall1320
@vall1320 4 года назад
I am here to defend the recorder. 1. You can do vibrato on recorder but a violinist like Eddy can’t (just like a beginner violinist can’t do vibrato) 2. You can gliss (just like a clarinet in the start of rhapsody in blue) 3. You can do chords. Through multiphonics. And if you perfectly hum the fifth while playing the tonic, you will create the illusion of the third as well. 4. There is extended technique for the recorder such as the previously mentioned multiphonics and there are many wacky ways to achieve a vibrato effect. Thus I conclude recorder is the truly superior instrument. EDIT: everyone out here thinking im some recorder pro when I’m a teenage French horn player whose watched about an hour of recorder tutorials on RU-vid.
@seancregomusic
@seancregomusic 4 года назад
As someone who played violin for over 30 years and hated almost every minute of it, I much prefer professional recorder players these days.
@sai_2006
@sai_2006 4 года назад
wHaT
@izzyCOS
@izzyCOS 4 года назад
Rhapsody in blue hits
@matthew._.schreiber
@matthew._.schreiber 4 года назад
Also recorder has a large upper register
@lockifrocki
@lockifrocki 4 года назад
I personally play the violin but my mum teachers the recorder so I salute you for this comment. Thank you!
@kanfoosj
@kanfoosj 4 года назад
Who knew that dissing the recorder will produce such outrage?
@chad522
@chad522 4 года назад
Ikr? meanwhile us pianists and the violists sitting here like.............. ok...
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
Maybe they should be more careful with jokes. In fact the violists won’t like it either. They can roast whatever they want, just not an innocent instrument and its players
@tokyohunter1119
@tokyohunter1119 4 года назад
@@Horacekiang you are the saltiest audience here I've ever seen
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
Clyde Alvarez I think they kind of agree. Why the new reaction video?
@GukGukNinja
@GukGukNinja 4 года назад
@@tokyohunter1119 lmao I see this dude everywhere in the comment section hating the viola jokes
@spxn5753
@spxn5753 4 года назад
SARAH JEFFERY REACTED TO THIS We need beginner vs expert again
@Happylillovebunny
@Happylillovebunny 4 года назад
🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@LimQingQing
@LimQingQing 4 года назад
I totally second this, being a Twoset Violin fan that are also awestruck by the versatility and beauty of the recorder in the hands of a professional! (gazing sadly upon realizing my elementary school recorder skill) Give more like to this, y'all! WE NEED A COLLAB! Or other suggestion would be: "We learn how to play recorder in xx hour" just like what you all did with the cello and chinese instrument.
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
How about viola?
@pippus1979
@pippus1979 4 года назад
Yes! Please guys, the video was fun but the recorder is an amazing instrument! You should definitely do something with her! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iABAU4UsqpI.html
@spxn5753
@spxn5753 4 года назад
Sofia Limantara in forty hour boy
@alexrogers4641
@alexrogers4641 4 года назад
Alternative title: Eddy trying to demonstrate violin technique on recorder
@luisa3431
@luisa3431 4 года назад
Did he though?
@alexrogers4641
@alexrogers4641 4 года назад
@@luisa3431 Ok
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
Alternative title : how to earn views by playing the most superior instrument on earth - the violin - and looking down on all the others.
@_quixote
@_quixote 4 года назад
Lol, even that vibrato on the recorder. He tried to do it over the hole.
@davidcoulombe2000
@davidcoulombe2000 4 года назад
@@_quixote Technically if he had exagerated it a bit more. He would have get his vibrato.
@deniseangelivwyn6348
@deniseangelivwyn6348 4 года назад
Guys let us take a moment to appreciate that Brett acted as the mom for once! Edit: thanks for all the likes guys!
@preciousjewelamor
@preciousjewelamor 4 года назад
"asian uncle"
@fadzilahagustin9097
@fadzilahagustin9097 4 года назад
Brett???
@MrAkillix
@MrAkillix 4 года назад
He also did in the "If violin lessons were honest" video
@fadzilahagustin9097
@fadzilahagustin9097 4 года назад
@@MrAkillix oh i see..
@deniseangelivwyn6348
@deniseangelivwyn6348 4 года назад
@justarandomperson thanks! :)
@asmrcraft2117
@asmrcraft2117 4 года назад
TwoSet: *Make fun of recorder* Violas: " am I a joke to you?"
@robertofontiglia4148
@robertofontiglia4148 4 года назад
While this is really funny, Sarah Jeffrey | Team Recorder made an excellent video response to this, and it's really just a wonderful education. Like, I watched it and I learned a lot about what a recorder can actually do -- in capable hands.
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
I respect and like her a lot!! Roasting and bullying and fooling around can be fun esp to kids, but can’t earn respect like that.
@User-ju9rv
@User-ju9rv 4 года назад
Horace Kiang bullying?
@shiyuhe3499
@shiyuhe3499 4 года назад
User it’s not bullying
@User-ju9rv
@User-ju9rv 4 года назад
EllieLiLi ik
@yellowlynx
@yellowlynx 4 года назад
Well, Sarah Jeffrey | Team Recorder also prove that they are more mature and professional than these two Singaporeans.
@crapeau
@crapeau 4 года назад
This video should be titled "Violonist tries to play the recorder"
@edwardblair4096
@edwardblair4096 4 года назад
Once Covid goes away, they should do a "2 Set Learns Recorder" video like they did with cello and viola. 1 hour of coaching by a professional recorder instructor and then see what they can do.
@jessicavaliente9342
@jessicavaliente9342 4 года назад
...and fails.
@nabilayasmine2684
@nabilayasmine2684 4 года назад
Lmaooo agree 😂😂
@Zhiakyun
@Zhiakyun 4 года назад
It's better than this title that made team recorder triggered
@CrystalWolf-oi1nm
@CrystalWolf-oi1nm 3 года назад
very true
@leahs.735
@leahs.735 4 года назад
ling ling can play every instrument without having touched them before
@juliagranger9651
@juliagranger9651 4 года назад
Leah S. Ling ling can play them all at the same time
@a1041
@a1041 4 года назад
Ling ling can play any instrument even when he/she sleep.
@sushih3302
@sushih3302 4 года назад
Leah S. Ling Ling can practice her violin for 40 hours while doing surgery
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 4 года назад
That’s because Ling Ling PRACTICE
@sionjones1675
@sionjones1675 4 года назад
Lingling can play instruments without touching them at all. WITH THEIR MIND!
@itsjustlukeRevive
@itsjustlukeRevive 4 года назад
TwoSetViolin: Violin vs Recorder Katy Perry: Violin vs Flute
@florinbraun9825
@florinbraun9825 4 года назад
roasting every Instrument for fun Others Instrument player: 😀😁 Roasting Recorder for fun Recorder Player: 😲🥺😡
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
Florin Braun their viola joke video sucks
@Fidi987
@Fidi987 3 года назад
That may be because people already often think of the recorder as an instrument you let elementary school children play with before they move on to "a real instrument". You hardly see anyone playing the recorder outside elementary schools or church (around here, anyway). Especially adults.
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 4 года назад
I know this is a skit video and it's all a joke but for those who don't know so much about the recorder (and possibly believe only these stereotypes), allow me to shed some light on the recorder from a professional perspective. (FYI - I'm a recorder graduate of Birmingham Conservatoire, UK, albeit no longer involved in music at all) 1) Range - while more limited than other woodwinds to typically just a little over 2 octaves, the true range, with some careful body movements (called kneestops) and learning some more complex fingerings (plus more air!), the range actually increases to 2 1/2 octaves. Let's also not forget that there's a huge family of recorders ranging from the subcontrabass (lowest note is the bottom F of a piano) right up to the garklein (highest note is a top C on the 7-octave piano) and everything in between. So you may need to change instruments mid piece (which some require!) Modern instruments can act like flutes and have a semitone extension downwards with similar-looking keys too. If one has a decent enough instrument and gets the right air pressure (as well as not relying too much on the upper register), it's possible to hit the 3rd octave. To put this into perspective, the treble recorder (a size smaller than what Eddy's playing and the most commonly used) could theoretically hit the top C and D of a flute, and potentially even to the F above that (the highest F on the piano!). The Martin Helder models have several keys which make this even easier to achieve. 2) Tremolo - this isn't really an effect wind instruments play to begin with, at least not on a repeated note, but when the time comes for it, we use the tongue, usually double but sometimes triple depending on the rhythm. To achieve this, a variety of syllables are needed to be sounded (d-g, t-k, did-'ll, etc) when tonguing rapidly but in a way so as to not tire the tongue out. 3) Dynamics - always a tricky thing to do on a (largely) keyless instrument but achievable by using a combination of varying air pressure with alternative fingerings. In the extremities, this is harder to do but still somewhat possible. Again, modern instruments with keys often have an easier time doing this due to being more similar to a flute and having greater control. 4) Vibrato - vibrato is done with the diaphragm and can, like the violin, be altered in terms of speed. The fundamental principle is the same as other wind instruments but due to the lack of resistance a recorder has, there is less pressure needed. Not to mention it's not easy to control with little resistance! Alternatives can be finger vibrato (which can be found in early French baroque music) or even over the labium (the hole at the top where the sound comes from) in modern music. 5) Glissando - this is actually a modern technique which isn't that hard to perform over a couple of notes. It gets harder when it goes over the break (think Rhapsody in Blue's opening clarinet solo) but still pretty possible (albeit with a lot of practice). A common feature in modern repertoire. 6) Chords - two methods of this: 1) multiphonic fingerings, again, common in modern music, and much like other wind instruments, they don't always sound the most musical like a violin might but they still exist! 2) USE TWO RECORDERS AT THE SAME TIME!!! Check Ishii's 'Black Intention' for a fantastic example of this. It's tricky to coordinate your right hand to do left hand fingering, but still possible! 7) Tone - yeah...it can be that bad...especially on cheap plastic things (much like cheap violins) 8) Price - 400 bucks for a recorder, a proper one, is NOT expensive. Due to the wide range of woods used in making recorders (which make up the bulk of a price difference), the prestige of makers, factory vs handmade, and additional details that could be added e.g. extra keys, decoration, adjusting the build for comfort (see tenor recorder vs knick tenor recorder), the prices can add up. The size and pitch can also influence the price. So a sopranino, the second smallest in the family, made of ebony would be much more expensive than one made of maple (or, of course, plastic). But a sopranino made of ebony will most certainly be cheaper than a treble made of ebony. The bigger recorders, such as the Paetzold range, can hit up to almost 7000USD for just the instrument alone. Consider that a professional often needs at least a dozen or so instruments on average to cover most repertoire, the individual prices aren't great but the collective price is! 9) Reputation - it IS getting better these days. Notable players include Michala Petri, Piers Adams, Jill Kemp, Dan Laurin, Giovanni Antonini, Maurice Steger, the late Frans Bruggen (and his son Daniel), Bertho Driever, Ross Winters, Grace Barton, and so on. Obviously, far fewer than the violin, but let's not forget the recorder lay in near non-existence for well over 150 years! 10) Alternative techniques - this is probably the biggest surprise for anyone learning about recorder as there is a LOT you can do! For example (including previously mentioned things here): - multiphonics - playing 2 instruments simultaneously - kneestops - varieties of vibrato (over the labium, finger holes, etc) - glissandi - microtones (MUCH easier to do on recorder than other instruments) - imitating other instruments, such as the shakuhachi by blowing directly over the mouthpiece instead of into it, or like a bottle with the body only - removing the headjoint and using that alone - blowing over fingerholes like a flute - harmonics (yes they exist!) - overtones - finger slapping on the fingerholes - singing and playing at the same time - knocking the body with a ring (see Leenhouts On the Trail of the Pink Panther) Hopefully, that cleared a few things up for you all! :) TL;DR - I'm a former recorder graduate who wanted to dispel myths of the recorder and hope this video didn't just reinforce stereotypes!
@kelsiemiller1763
@kelsiemiller1763 4 года назад
This deserves more likes.
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 4 года назад
@@kelsiemiller1763 thank you so much
@silkenatterer4769
@silkenatterer4769 4 года назад
Your comment made my day:)
@jj31fr
@jj31fr 4 года назад
Because this channel is about music education, this thread deserves to be pinned at the top. Thanks for opening my eyes, Chris. When I went to middle school, we were all taught to play the recorder as it was an inexpensive way to get everyone involved. I loved it right away as I was co-ordinated so I could play the "difficult" pieces from the start. It was a while before I could afford a wooden recorder which sounds so much better. As an adult, I graduated onto the clarinet then learnt to play the violin as well. But without those recorder lessons, which taught me to read music, I doubt I could have had so much fun in this life. I really do love your post and will have to come back to it to see what else I need to remember. Much respect and appreciation!!!
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 4 года назад
@@silkenatterer4769 you're very welcome!
@albertvives5422
@albertvives5422 4 года назад
This made me feel really uncomfortable, as a recorder player i feel bad for Eddy's recorder
@utoobah
@utoobah 4 года назад
Albert vives I want to give his recorder a hug (studying master in recorder)
@ogechter
@ogechter 4 года назад
+1
@evamacova4085
@evamacova4085 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iABAU4UsqpI.html
@utoobah
@utoobah 4 года назад
Eva Máčová oh Sarah is the best
@weeaboo_owo
@weeaboo_owo 4 года назад
Now we need viola gang and opera gang to calm down the angry recorder players I respect opera and viola gang because they didn’t overreact.
@user-ld5ts7yl9n
@user-ld5ts7yl9n 4 года назад
True
@IvAlhucema
@IvAlhucema 4 года назад
This video should be called "Professional violinist vs other professional violinist trying to play the recorder" hahaha
@spark.2
@spark.2 4 года назад
The recorder actually has a range of around 2 octaves, and if you ever need more there's always alto, tenor, and bass recorders...careful though I've found wooden ones costing over 1.6k Also look for a guy called Recorder Legend his videos are top quality hahahaha
@wxlurker
@wxlurker 4 года назад
Sarah Park Okay I went to take a look and that was legit a great recommendation. I’m laughing and impressed in equal parts.
@seancregomusic
@seancregomusic 4 года назад
Ya, the snark in this video disappoints me a bit. The recorder is just as legit and professional as the violin, with its history going back just as far if not farther. They have a very large range (even more than a violin if you get into modern techniques), they are very versatile, and they can be insanely expensive for a professional instrument. I recommend to anyone reading this to check out the Team Recorder RU-vid channel.
@jobkaashoek
@jobkaashoek 4 года назад
I actually play recorders, and they have a range of 2 octaves and a fifth, fully chromatic. The thing is that they're mainly used to teach basic music to move on to another instrument. In classical times the recorder wasn't used at all, but in the centuries before that they were used very frequently. It can sound spectacular, but many people don't get as far into the recorder because they want to move to another instrument.
@jeffshep3793
@jeffshep3793 4 года назад
@@seancregomusic Then does the snark on almost every one of their videos disappoint you?
@fadzilahagustin9097
@fadzilahagustin9097 4 года назад
Aw i follow him. And follow team recorder too
@aira9162
@aira9162 4 года назад
Seeing the recorder gave me intense war flashbacks during my grade school days. It was traumatizing.
@rogerandmegh5575
@rogerandmegh5575 4 года назад
How ironic that when I was encouraged by Two Set videos to learn an instrument, I chose the recorder!! That was a year ago. Now I’m studying for grade 4, and am learning the treble and sopranino as well as the descant. TwoSet’s light-hearted approach has kept me going despite my first disastrous public performance and my exam nerves. It’s amazing to feel part of a musical community through TwoSet’s channel and also Sarah Jeffery’s recorder channel 😆
@lan3969
@lan3969 4 года назад
That's so amazing! I've been playing the recorder for 15 years now and I love it! Most people move on to other instruments at some point because it's viewed as a beginner's instrument for some reason so I'm always happy to see someone who sticks with it!
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
It’s so nice of you. I wish there are more humble musicians like you who are fans of this channel.
@Tntlover
@Tntlover 4 года назад
Ok, thank you guys for being able to take a joke.
@katherinedaignault1521
@katherinedaignault1521 4 года назад
seeing recorders triggers repressed elementary school memories i'd rather keep buried
@huiher
@huiher 4 года назад
*_did eddy lose scissors paper rock for this?_*
@coleiche
@coleiche 4 года назад
No, he just didn't want to play the left hand pizzicato! :P
@MrProthall
@MrProthall 4 года назад
I think I am getting old. Didn't even hear the highest violin sound.
@Cursed_Baljeet
@Cursed_Baljeet 4 года назад
That's not even the highest bro
@69mviewsnt
@69mviewsnt 4 года назад
@@Cursed_Baljeet sh*t he's gotta be really old then
@subswithnovideo-xj8te
@subswithnovideo-xj8te 4 года назад
That's. . . Not a good thing
@MrProthall
@MrProthall 4 года назад
@@subswithnovideo-xj8te Depends on your age and how messed up your ears are. 20Hz to 20kHz is the range a human ear CAN hear, but basically only babies. Most people that went through our test at age 25 sat at around 15-17kHz. Again, depends how messed up your ears are. At 60+ you're lucky if you get to 13kHz~.
@katzrkool6657
@katzrkool6657 4 года назад
It's just a joke so please don't take it seriously. I play the violin, but I also like recorders, and they can do all of the things on this video better than it is shown on the recorder. Like I said, it is just a joke, and TWOSET were just making a joke. Thank you😊
@charles-kk8sp
@charles-kk8sp 4 года назад
Guys chill they made this video for funsies it's ok, seriously
@airenyah7243
@airenyah7243 4 года назад
as someone who's played the recorder for years... hearing eddy play really hurts haha
@_quixote
@_quixote 4 года назад
No, its art, a fine piece of art😂
@lightningstrike2001
@lightningstrike2001 4 года назад
I agree bro
@cucubirds4298
@cucubirds4298 4 года назад
It’s the best sound a recorder can get losers
@LPSWeirdCow13
@LPSWeirdCow13 4 года назад
@@cucubirds4298 lies
@cucubirds4298
@cucubirds4298 4 года назад
I tell no lies
@angelawang7365
@angelawang7365 4 года назад
I died a little on the inside when Eddy tried to vibrate by wiggling his fingers...
@vv.4.n.g148
@vv.4.n.g148 4 года назад
Especially when it slipped out of his mouth tho
@Wadosan
@Wadosan 4 года назад
Imagine if someone tried that on saxophone or flute lol
@angelawang7365
@angelawang7365 4 года назад
Waddles ワドさん Probably either won’t do anything or it’ll create an out of tune trill of some sort...
@joash4332
@joash4332 4 года назад
I mean her girlfriend is a flutist. 🤷
@noname8354
@noname8354 4 года назад
Same with me.
@omegaRST
@omegaRST 4 года назад
I cant believe people are so salty about this, these are all jokes and we know it, ANY TwoSet fan knows that their skits with other instruments are not serious and 100% stereotypes, all this video did, other than made me laugh, was made me discover a recorder youtuber and allowed me to see that the recorder is actually way more intricate than I thought, which to be honest I would have NEVER done without twoset
@jennsarrrrrraaaa7106
@jennsarrrrrraaaa7106 4 года назад
So true!
@CF_NeverForget
@CF_NeverForget 4 года назад
There are 989 offended recorder players so far
@messadivoce1965
@messadivoce1965 4 года назад
We're now more than 1.2k
@TheBrokenConsort
@TheBrokenConsort 4 года назад
@@messadivoce1965... and growing. 👍🏼
@adonaimartinez8160
@adonaimartinez8160 3 года назад
There's 1.3K offended recorder players now😂
@peihsinlu6344
@peihsinlu6344 4 года назад
Me: Hey, I can play the instrument just like TwoSetViolin!! Friend: Really?! You do know they're professional classical musicians right? Me: When I play the recorder I sound just like Eddy!
@daniellbondad6670
@daniellbondad6670 4 года назад
Most of these limitations are only because of Eddy's lack of skills.Vibrato and dynamic control is possible.
@cozmic8288
@cozmic8288 4 года назад
It’s a joke video
@Piikaachuu1203
@Piikaachuu1203 4 года назад
Eddy’s skills are with his violin, not his recorder. It’s not that he doesn’t have skills!
@haleyk9986
@haleyk9986 4 года назад
Wenny Li thank you honestly this video is a jokeeee. People can't understand that for some reason
@utoobah
@utoobah 4 года назад
NOT ONLY. EVERYTHING ELSE is also very possible!
@haleyk9986
@haleyk9986 4 года назад
The Girl yeah, but this is a skit. Take it easy my guy
@sagahermina5663
@sagahermina5663 4 года назад
Y’all should do a reaction video to Sarah Jefferys video reacting to you. Edit: I don`t play the recorder and I`m not upset. I just thought it would be fun to watch.
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
Her reaction was polite yet powerful.
@xena8_8
@xena8_8 4 года назад
Yess!!
@JayJay-ro3px
@JayJay-ro3px 4 года назад
this is why i can back to this video lol to drop the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iABAU4UsqpI.html kudos to these two musicians tho.
@aeroscience9834
@aeroscience9834 4 года назад
Black Bat why? cause she can’t take a joke?
@LudmilaRamirez7
@LudmilaRamirez7 4 года назад
@@aeroscience9834 she has the right to be annoyed or not, its a free nation 🤷
@alexanderhorvath9193
@alexanderhorvath9193 4 года назад
violas bullied since beginning. One recorder video... Recorder players, REEEEEEEE. This comment is a joke by the way. I don't want the recorder army to kill me.
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
when your joke is over the top and has offended somebody who’s totally innocent, usually, you apologize. Twoset fanboys don’t. They shout to the offended “ it’s a joke learn to take it, if you don’t, it’s your problem.” Wow.
@randomperson1997
@randomperson1997 4 года назад
Horace Kiang when you are someone who’s ‘innocent’ and you find a joke offensive, you usually either realize it’s a shitty joke and move on, or you just stop watching the video. Recorder players don’t. They type in the comments “ Wow you guys don’t know anything about the recorder,” or “Twoset fanboys are bad people who don’t know how to behave.” Wow.
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
Random Person you’re kind of right. For me, I don’t really play recorder myself, I’m just not happy seeing this
@randomperson1997
@randomperson1997 4 года назад
Horace Kiang I’m glad we agree on that. This is the first of their videos I watched and I was just super surprised by all the vitriol in the comments.
@jansmejkal6846
@jansmejkal6846 4 года назад
I've been playing recorder for 10 years now. The "flauto dolce" is capable of surprisingly controlled sound and dynamic changes, provided that one can execute them :D Also, there's not much you can get out of the soprano recorder, it's build practically prevents it from sounding tolerable even in pro's hands (search for alto, tenor or bass recorders, it's rly something different). Saying all that, I don't argue with any of the points made (n.9 and 10 hit rly close to home :D), but beware, what you mock may one day rise against you (recorder-viola gang?)
@rrssna
@rrssna 4 года назад
I disagree about the soprano recorder. The soprano recorder can be a great instrument. It does require a lot of skill to get a good sound, but pros and advanced players can make a soprano sound beautiful.
@silkenatterer4769
@silkenatterer4769 4 года назад
I agree about No. 9. But have you tried any of the amazing modern recorder pieces? There are hundreds of alternative techniques such as multiphonics, flutter tongue, singing at the same time, sputato, playing two recorders at once, different types of vibrato, tremolo and articulation, microtones, wind sounds and white noises, glissandi and so on:)
@jansmejkal6846
@jansmejkal6846 4 года назад
@@silkenatterer4769 I'm ashamed to admit that I've never encountered or sought out any, but I've heard some and they are simply fascinating. Would you explain to me what "sputato" is?
@silkenatterer4769
@silkenatterer4769 4 года назад
@@jansmejkal6846 don't be ashamed about that:) Sarah explains sputato very well in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-meaESDXNmm0.html . Should be around 3:30 and then you know how it sounds:)
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
This channel is earning views by playing the most superior instrument on earth - the violin - and looking down on all the others.
@maylandmuhammadhanbal6604
@maylandmuhammadhanbal6604 4 года назад
Eddy on recorder: can't play tremolo, vibrato, glissando, alt technique, etc. Goddess Ling Ling of recorder and the Team Recorder : Listen here, n00b.
@thecraftycactus1408
@thecraftycactus1408 4 года назад
I think it's cool how so many of us are subscribed to both Team Recorder and Two Set. I guess we just have a general appreciation of music
@mariewintzer2245
@mariewintzer2245 4 года назад
@@thecraftycactus1408 same here :-)
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
I think they better stick to what they’re good at.
@jessicavaliente9342
@jessicavaliente9342 4 года назад
@@thecraftycactus1408 I unsubscribed from Two Set long ago.
@sebassantos6265
@sebassantos6265 4 года назад
I've got to say that I enjoyed more the responses and reactions of this video than the video itself
@lauractk6065
@lauractk6065 4 года назад
Sebs Santos so true lol
@UnKnown-oy8yl
@UnKnown-oy8yl 4 года назад
My son...he plays the recorder*cries* He a professional recorder player.😂 You make me laugh so hard
@theoneandonly1108
@theoneandonly1108 4 года назад
here is an answer from exactly these recorder players: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c7ilVEZd_pI.html
@Luigi0320
@Luigi0320 4 года назад
2:03 don't attack the professional recorder players now
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 4 года назад
Agreed!
@malahamavet
@malahamavet 4 года назад
Exactly! That's not fair at all
@Lin-so3co
@Lin-so3co 4 года назад
They attack violas as a joke, you're really going to get offended about recorders too? Lol
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 4 года назад
@@Lin-so3co violas are taken far more seriously than recorders, even in conservatoires.
@Lin-so3co
@Lin-so3co 4 года назад
@@chrisoconnor9521 I was talking about how TwoSet Violin jokes about these things, I wasn't referring to in a sense of professionalism entirely lol.
@captainmarvelous982
@captainmarvelous982 4 года назад
Vivaldi: recorder sucks.........I'm gonna write pieces for it
@EG-cm5th
@EG-cm5th 4 года назад
LOL
@MidnightKoyumi
@MidnightKoyumi 4 года назад
@@EG-cm5th LOL
@TonyBittner-Collins
@TonyBittner-Collins 4 года назад
And those pieces are amongst the most beautiful ones composed: La Tempesta di Mare, La Notte, Concerto in C Major, etc.
@messadivoce1965
@messadivoce1965 4 года назад
@@TonyBittner-Collins Absolutely true! 🎼🎶
@TheBrokenConsort
@TheBrokenConsort 4 года назад
@@TonyBittner-Collins Indeed.
@mohammedrokaya7257
@mohammedrokaya7257 4 года назад
Who else came after they got roasted from recorder players
@hibby2729
@hibby2729 4 года назад
When you're bored bullying the viola.
@viktoriiafedorova
@viktoriiafedorova 4 года назад
We all know that recorder is more capable. No need to prove it again.
@malahamavet
@malahamavet 4 года назад
Are you sure? Because I think there are people in the comments who actually still think recorders are shit and stuff. This video just reinforces the idea, me very angry, must destroy something
@emi1391
@emi1391 4 года назад
Vasili Stan Yeah, it’s a shame! People should look up professional players because recorders sound amazing.
@viktoriiafedorova
@viktoriiafedorova 4 года назад
I agree! These all are just stereotypes- recorder is great and has such an impressive music literature especially from baroque period. I am personally a fan of Telemann and Vivaldi!
@emi1391
@emi1391 4 года назад
Viktoriya Fedorova I play flute but want to try recorder as well especially after listening to a Japanese band called Kuricorder Quartet. I already dabble in ocarinas and tin whistles, but would like to add recorders to my collection.
@viktoriiafedorova
@viktoriiafedorova 4 года назад
@@emi1391 I am a flute player as well. After the bachelor I plan to study early music too. Then I will finally be able to try playing the recorder professionally.
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 года назад
0:24 "What's that song" Me: (Inhales) Darude Sandstorm
@eli-coleoptere563
@eli-coleoptere563 4 года назад
Just Some Guy without a Mustache why are you f****** every where
@JoshuaLo2732
@JoshuaLo2732 4 года назад
Why are you everywhere.....
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 4 года назад
We see you in every comment section everywhere. Someone has a lot of time on their hands.
@luizguilherme8416
@luizguilherme8416 4 года назад
Man you are in every anime video making you a man of culture and you are in every classical video that isn't music, making you both a man of culture on the anime side and classical
@emilyhuber73
@emilyhuber73 4 года назад
It’s nice to see you! How are you?
@KevOSMusic
@KevOSMusic 4 года назад
I think now's a good time for you guys to collaborate with a pro-recorder RU-vidr. You could show an awesome instrument off. Team Recorder did a reaction to this video. You could even do a Ling Ling challenge or something with her.
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 4 года назад
OMG YES
@picante28
@picante28 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iABAU4UsqpI.html The link of her vid^^
@filippkarandeev139
@filippkarandeev139 4 года назад
Kev Anathra this must be in the top
@bergman9604
@bergman9604 4 года назад
Brett’s left hand pizz is so crisp and good
@OneOfUs-
@OneOfUs- 4 года назад
What I think I sound like: Brett on violin🥰 What I actually sound like: Eddie on recorder😫
@Isi-km2ln
@Isi-km2ln 4 года назад
So relatable xD
@ThatOneRandomPan
@ThatOneRandomPan 4 года назад
Me too
@miwir1248
@miwir1248 4 года назад
UP you go!
@powpow1006
@powpow1006 4 года назад
Violin: elegant, graceful, precise Recorder: *full on meme*
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 4 года назад
Recorder plays memes what other instrument can do THAT?
@tovunguyentrang07
@tovunguyentrang07 4 года назад
@@tylerhackner9731 viola?
@sollertia_
@sollertia_ 4 года назад
@@tovunguyentrang07 nah viola *is* the meme
@Chockitkat
@Chockitkat 4 года назад
Have you heard me playing the violin? I become the meme :)
@PauloSousa-cr8it
@PauloSousa-cr8it 4 года назад
no one: recorder players: *trigered* viola players: first time huh?
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 года назад
Darude Sandstorm on the recorder sounds good actually
@sindhujaamirthiah1897
@sindhujaamirthiah1897 4 года назад
Moral of the story kids: it’s ok to make fun of other instruments. except violinists
@Killerbee4712
@Killerbee4712 4 года назад
Piano: You underestimate my POWER
@microcosmos1864
@microcosmos1864 4 года назад
I think we should add "relatively inexpensive instruments" lol!
@ruty6099
@ruty6099 4 года назад
@@Killerbee4712 Saxophonist: You underestimate my Jazz
@hollyzhang1418
@hollyzhang1418 4 года назад
@@ruty6099 HAHAHAHA YES
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 4 года назад
@@microcosmos1864 recorders are far more expensive than you realise. Is $7,000 for 1 recorder cheap??? Consider professionals usually have a minimum of a dozen of them!
@yukitakahashi1340
@yukitakahashi1340 4 года назад
Alternative title: Eddy screwing around with the recorder because he's bored and is tired of practicing the violin...
@justinnamuco9096
@justinnamuco9096 4 года назад
Fits better in the description
@blurryink115
@blurryink115 4 года назад
Me: watches twoset for two days My vocabulary: sacrilegious
@MarigoldEdits
@MarigoldEdits 4 года назад
I love that violists just don't care but when you attack the recorder nation they PROTECC
@aeroscience9834
@aeroscience9834 4 года назад
“Beginner tone” was that not the whole video? Haha
@jessicavaliente9342
@jessicavaliente9342 4 года назад
Snap! And don't get me started on the tone of a little kid with the violin in their hands for the first time.
@happyhaunt6659
@happyhaunt6659 4 года назад
Alternative title: Eddy’s recorder-induced descent into insanity
@benjaminemery9716
@benjaminemery9716 4 года назад
I read this as a pun of 'descant' rather than 'descent' at first.
@happyhaunt6659
@happyhaunt6659 4 года назад
@@benjaminemery9716 That would have been funny but I’m not clever enough for that
@steeliron391
@steeliron391 4 года назад
Love this!
@pyrotas
@pyrotas 4 года назад
Now, this has backfired quite strongly hasn't it.
@lauractk6065
@lauractk6065 4 года назад
Fabio Cavaliere absolutely lol, but bcoz of this I get to know more about recorders, so it isn’t really a bad thing I guess..? ;)
@cuboid2630
@cuboid2630 4 года назад
Brett's concentration made me feel like he was in a different world, But Eddy's recording skills made me laugh so hard 🤣
@omgbrandon5107
@omgbrandon5107 4 года назад
Violin: is a guitar Recorder: is a flute
@gjgsssgjgsss
@gjgsssgjgsss 4 года назад
Brandon Nguyen technically, violins and guitars are kinds of lutes. That is why they have luthiers
@painandsuffering7130
@painandsuffering7130 4 года назад
It's really funny to me that in my mother tongue there's no such word as a "recorder"; flute is called "flet poprzeczny" and recorder is called "flet prosty", so they're basically both flutes just different kinds and I got really confused when I saw TwoSet getting angry at someone for calling recorder a flute for the first time
@user-zc9si7ls9i
@user-zc9si7ls9i 4 года назад
@@painandsuffering7130 The source of the confusion around the word flute in English stems from its use as the name of a specific instrument as well as a family of instruments. Flute as an instrument is the regular concert flute found in orchestras around the world. Flute as an instrument family refers to woodwind instruments that produce the sound by splitting air across an edge (across the hole on the flute or the labium on the recorder). This instrument family includes all sorts of different instruments including the concert flute (and its cousins, the piccolo and alto flute), all ranges of recorders, ocarinas and tin whistles, the shakuhachi, the dizi (chinese flute) and various other ethnic instruments.
@i.granados6804
@i.granados6804 4 года назад
I have never before heard a scale played on a violin before and that was fucking beautiful.
@Roma-kp4qg
@Roma-kp4qg 4 года назад
2:17 Brett is so proud of his Pag 24 left hand pizz he includes it everywhere he can as he should be, that shit looks hard!
@zuricchu
@zuricchu 4 года назад
As someone who frustratingly played recorder for years, how dare u make me feel attacked hahaha
@BrunoGamer-gf2mg
@BrunoGamer-gf2mg 4 года назад
yes, me eddy dont know how to play recerder, recorder is a instrument like all the others
@lmaolol6276
@lmaolol6276 4 года назад
Man that was so great..... .... I mean the violin was okay though...
@tamsinsmith4293
@tamsinsmith4293 4 года назад
Omg. Understated comment 😂
@garlicbread3170
@garlicbread3170 4 года назад
Brent Bedra What was great? Brett or Eddy?
@lmaolol6276
@lmaolol6276 4 года назад
Garlic Bread *proceeds to sweat nervously
@flutechannel
@flutechannel 4 года назад
Team Recorder I CALL ON YOU! Great video guys!
@KNArts
@KNArts 4 года назад
I play recorder but I wasn’t bothered by this like other players were. I thought it was kind of funny, especially with some of the techniques they were doing. I had no idea they were a thing because it was something I accidentally did because I’m a newbie XD
@deadlycucumber9020
@deadlycucumber9020 4 года назад
In this video, we witness 3 year old eddy playing around with a white stick that produces sound.
@CoolGirl-lb6eu
@CoolGirl-lb6eu 4 года назад
nooooooo You got it all wrong... You must twerk to get that flawless vibrato
@saitama9962
@saitama9962 4 года назад
Yay another motivation to practice.
@lan3969
@lan3969 4 года назад
please make a "learning to play the recorder" video with Sarah Jeffrey from team recorder!
@lourbaculpo3012
@lourbaculpo3012 4 года назад
And here we have twoset violin flexing for 2 minutes and 49 seconds
@nikkiacosta9365
@nikkiacosta9365 4 года назад
Last time i was this early ... Going outside was still an option
@kpcaspers
@kpcaspers 4 года назад
A comparison would have made sense if one of you were an actual recorder player. This way, it only feeds the perpetual recorder prejudice.
@abrahamalexander6045
@abrahamalexander6045 4 года назад
As a woodwind player I am slightly offended but the recorder is like the cousin we don’t talk about
@girlwithoutpearlearring
@girlwithoutpearlearring 4 года назад
I just wish, there were more people out there, defending the viola like they defend the recorder. But it's a nice start, though. Let me know, if you're ready to join me in my anti-bullying campaign for musical instruments! Edit: Wow! I think I never got that many likes in just a few hours. I'm probably fighting for a good cause :-)
@Marilynsmommy
@Marilynsmommy 4 года назад
I'm a violist and a recorder player. I'm so done being offended right now. Haha
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 4 года назад
@@Marilynsmommy seconded!!!
@omeleteazulproducoes8196
@omeleteazulproducoes8196 4 года назад
Do i have to pay?
@literateartist9304
@literateartist9304 4 года назад
Y E S *violinist who supports viola rights (And others) *
@girlwithoutpearlearring
@girlwithoutpearlearring 4 года назад
@@omeleteazulproducoes8196 Of course, dear friend. A campaign doesn't run itself without any cash! :'D (Secretly, I'll keep the money myself and spend it all on food but you don't have to know that...)
@lloyddoregreen7523
@lloyddoregreen7523 4 года назад
One time in primary school, we were having a recorder lesson because the school thought it was important to get everyone to play an instrument. Anyway at the end of the lesson our teacher told us to clean the instruments by shaking them gently to get the water droplets out. The guy sitting next to me starts shaking it violently above his head and one section came off and flew across the room. It missed the teacher by only like 10cm and the teacher went mental. We never saw that teacher again lol.
@peiyentsai6430
@peiyentsai6430 4 года назад
Haha poor teacher, but funny story!
@bethanyhu1881
@bethanyhu1881 4 года назад
wow i suck at recorder but even i know that’s noooot the right way to clean a recorder
@GYB0BA
@GYB0BA 4 года назад
I dont know how, but this video just made me want to purchase a recorder
@damionquintanilla8237
@damionquintanilla8237 4 года назад
the outro music is pure gold!
@karenliu529
@karenliu529 4 года назад
Dude, they need to get a real recorder Lingling to teach them real recorder techniques.
@ongabobonga6543
@ongabobonga6543 4 года назад
Exactly
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
They also need adult musicians to teach them respect to non violin music
@hironyx
@hironyx 4 года назад
i mean you cant just compare two instruments where one is played by a professional and another played by a beginner. i know it's all done for comedic purposes, i just hope there is a follow up in the future where you find a professional recorder player to do this comparison again.
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 4 года назад
It would be interesting to see a professional vs beginner video with recorder like they did with flute, horn, bass, etc.
@hernandelacruz6312
@hernandelacruz6312 4 года назад
I think they didn't do the recorder justice
@brendanlucas4316
@brendanlucas4316 4 года назад
I don't think you can call eddy a beginner on recorder
@Horacekiang
@Horacekiang 4 года назад
Brendan Lucas right, he’s much worse
@baguettegott3409
@baguettegott3409 4 года назад
Some recorder players did that as a response! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c7ilVEZd_pI.html It kinda has the opposite problem, the violonists are beginners, but it's kind of cool that the video also works the other way around
@iasnessy6701
@iasnessy6701 4 года назад
I had no idea there where professional recorder players before reading the comment section, now I gotta check out videos that show the full range of what the recorder is capable of. As someone who isn't musicly involved/informed Thank you for providing the information you have!
@srijanchakraborty203
@srijanchakraborty203 4 года назад
Sarah Jeffrey: *Sacrilegious*
@nuu9282
@nuu9282 4 года назад
Music featured Violin: 3 octaves G Major scale [0:00] Paganini Caprice no. 19 [0:28] Mendelssohn Violin Concerto 2nd mvt. [0:45] Paganini Caprice no. 24 [1:08] [2:17] Recorder: idk man, could be anything potentially
@joaopedrolessa2242
@joaopedrolessa2242 4 года назад
nuu at 0:55 I’m pretty sure is Rachmaninoff’s vocalise
@kaspianocz6330
@kaspianocz6330 4 года назад
@@joaopedrolessa2242 yes
@pppp-zp2vo
@pppp-zp2vo 4 года назад
2:17 ahh, the perfect pitz boy is back
@alyssa5681
@alyssa5681 4 года назад
i'm telling you this proves nothing, recorder will always reign supreme... When played professionally of course
@lyniebrown2575
@lyniebrown2575 4 года назад
I NEED A PART 2!!!!!
@korodile488
@korodile488 4 года назад
I kept replaying brett's accent saying since it was cute "I do wish he go to Harvard and do the duck-tur, lah yer, engineer. Atleast, he talented." Brett, please adopt me.
@alexrogers4641
@alexrogers4641 4 года назад
2:37 Eddy should apply for the Guinness world record as the best recorder player who can blow the air out of his nose.
@jinennsia2089
@jinennsia2089 4 года назад
You should see pink guy playing
@lsoelsoels9703
@lsoelsoels9703 4 года назад
Recorder Lady roasted you well lol
@jdmitchell6559
@jdmitchell6559 4 года назад
I love twoset violin, but you have just been beautifully roasted, garnished and served up with two veg by TeamRecorder - please do a collaboration !!!
@cally1817
@cally1817 4 года назад
Eddie the entire video was the sound you would hear when you walked past the music room in grade school
@Ye___89
@Ye___89 4 года назад
Last time i was this early i still had toilet paper
@cole5266
@cole5266 4 года назад
Bushy is cute u must’ve been SO DAMN early.
@MissesWitch
@MissesWitch 4 года назад
This was amazing
@x0cx102
@x0cx102 4 года назад
twoset should check out all the responses to this video by recorder players; there are so many!
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