VIVE PRO lens UPGRADE 

pretty sure you can get lenses for the rift too, and yep they make quite some noise .... but i'm far away from the wife (she is mostly in the kitchen) NJ motion ... well its only the seat that is moving not the whole car meaning steering wheel and pedals... if you just want the seat to move go for the NEXT LEVEL RACING PLATFORM. i'm sure there are others out there and i'm not saying Prosimu is the best but I love my 3DOF and i sometimes sit in my other standing still rig and boy what a difference.

A very good idea.

Thank you for that! I plan on buying this upgrade in the next week or so and was dreading the thought of taking a blade near my lenses. lol

naktaal I actually did some damage to my lense with a blade before I found that a suction cup does just as good a job

@@hernandezjose20 I can definitely believe it. While watching people do it in these videos, I've been thinking that they have just been lucky. Thanks again for giving me a safer method to use! Did you do anything specific to mitigate the dust risk?

honestly i really think that is because people dont know how to use them. Apparently there where the same problem with the HP reverbe G2.. but then MRTV asked about 15 people to send there so called bad HMD"s to him and he found NOTHING wrong with them.....LOL

didn't' really have any problems....depends on how long you use them...

sorry enkel ervaring met vive en vive pro....heb wel al tot 10 soorten om mijn hoofd gezet maar niet lang genoeg om een oordeel te kunnen vellen. Laat je niet vangen door HOGE resolutie want dat kan je GPU toch niet aan. Ben nog altijd superblij met de ViVe pro met lens upgrade (boet een klein beetje FOV in maar valt echt mee)

ps THanks for the SUB ! 👍

Id does indeed reduce the FOV but with the VIVE you can compensate that with the hardware. Shrinking you can compensate with the software. However still 20% of the people dont see a difference. But lets agree anything is better then the awful GODrays.

Donny, I am not sure if they will fit. they look real close but I am not brave enough to take apart the Valve Index. I am still using my Vive/Gear Pro headset. I do like the Index controllers they fit me better than the Vive and the Rift. I do think that I can tell that the 144 refresh is noticeable but the god shadow's are distracting. I also like the speakers and fit of the Index better than the Vive Pro. Maybe its impossible to get the BEST of the BEST. @Donny Granger

well at least i'm glad that someone believes me when i said the vive pro with lenses is the best out there even with newer devices coming out... not sure if the valve has the same lens kit....wil look up on the web if there is anything out there, that is if you are willing to sacrifice the valve's warranty... but if you do it carefully they wouldn't even notice when you put the old lenses back in there...

Zal ietsje minder zijn.... Maar voor simracing verwaarloosbaar.

Waaw years later and still people watching this. I pre-ordered the pimax crystal ....now using the vive pro2. But to be honest my former setup with the vive and lenses was better.

You have 2 versions... Normal non fresnal lenses for people that don't wear prescription glasses. And second the prescription version where you have to give the correction to the vendor so they can adapt the lenses. These you should only buy if you are wearing glasses and you want to take them of for VR.

Alright, thanks !

nice to hear, hope you wont be dissapointed.

dont have any screen door...FOV is a bit less..but its worth the sacrifice(if you even can call it that)

yes and no.... because they are closer to your eyes then the fresnel ones what should have been a reduced FOV is now really negligible . So maybe by 2 % but the clarity makes up everything.

yep same here that's why i bought the lens upgrade ....meanwhile i'm thinking of getting the HP reverbe G2

thanks just sharing my views....

Thanks, tja des tijds gewoon begonnen met een stuur aan mijn bureau....beetje bij beetje opgebouwd...maak daar ooit ook eens een video van .. ;-)

nope no antireflective coating but dont really think you need that ...i wear lenses and glasses... and this upgrade was like having prescription glasses after having seen bad for life...LOL i'm not going back.... hey even if you dont agree the only thing you have lost will be 35 $ you can always put the old lenses back in .....no problem. There is no reflection on the lens from my face side if everything is dark...

AARCHHH......i'm a idiot....LOL nope nice and safe in a box....

@@channelvr1293 lol we all make mistakes bud. Not sure how much of a second hand market there is but i know when mine got scratched due to my glasses rubbing against them i found out how much they were to replace i looked around for second hand ones but couldnt find any. Fortunately i came across the gear vr mod too and havent looked back. I also have a hp reverb but my go to is my vive even though the reverb has better resolution. Its just got a great build quality and although heavier doesnt hurt my face like the cheap build quality of the reverb. I'm sure it feels cheap due to them trying to reduce weight but its really bad and uncomfortable.

nope not for the moment ....the lens configuration is different..... but i'm looking into it because i got the PRO2 so we will see...

Hmmm I'm no doctor... But I do know a very well known eye specialist... I will try to get answers from her. 😉👍

@@channelvr1293 good man. Thankyou!

hi there, yep there is always a sacrifice in FOV but i compensated that with a very thin faceplate and i have to say its more then worth it . You can use these lenses with the vive and the pro version. Works perfect for me. ;-) I got the Pro 2 now and have to say these fresnel lenses again are awefull.

Channel VR Wasn’t expecting the reply - thanks again . So just to reconfirm I have my vive with the reduced faceplate thickness mod and the fov increase as a result so if I use these new lenses with the 3D printed plastic inserts there will be no decrease in fov right ? Appreciate this as it’ll cost over £20 to buy these . Just though with the increased height of the inserts you wouldn’t have been able to get your eyes as close to the screen as you could of with the original lenses ? Thanks again

Further to my post - Channel VR Wasn’t expecting the reply - thanks again . So just to reconfirm I have my vive with the reduced faceplate thickness mod and the fov increase as a result so if I use these new lenses with the 3D printed plastic inserts there will be no decrease in fov right ? Appreciate this as it’ll cost over £20 to buy these . Just though with the increased height of the inserts you wouldn’t have been able to get your eyes as close to the screen as you could of with the original lenses ? Thanks again

@@paulnicolas172 well as long as you dont wear glasses the FOV will only diminish with a few degrees but that is more then worth it because now you can look everywhere without seing those damn rings.

Yep just à tiny bit.. But the clarity compensates for that loss.

Clarity >>>> fov

Yep that's a yes however you will lose a bit of fov...that is if you're Vive has the new headstrap . Because the new headstrap limits the back to front movement of your lenses. But yeah works like a charm... done it in my first Vive .

Actually the fly was animated by 3DFX... 😜👍

@@channelvr1293 Thats even better.. :-) Just make sure you don't trap the thing in the headset while you teleport... We all know what happened to Jeff Goldblum

Thanks , sure you will be happy with them ;-) Just make sure you always take time to center your HMD so your eyes are smack in the middle so everything is in super focus !

Can you update? I have Valve index, haven't opened it yet. It's Vive Pro better than index if it has lens mod?

@@victord3093 a different person said its so much bettern the valve index. Im so happy i stuck with my vive pro. This kind of upgrade scares me but i will now order some lenses and upgrade it.

@@BigDaddyMacc I have the valve index and I'm not blown away. Please post some feedback after you get the lenses installed

hmmm First this is not a official video ! this is me sharing a experience... what people do with their vive or anything else for that matter is their problem i'm not going to put disclaimers on my videos ...duh if they are too dumb to do it they shouldn't.... ps @ 6.55 i'm cleaning the lenses, and of camera i cleaned them with a special solution they use with camera lenses... and i cleaned the screens as well...yep there was some specs in the lens but one tap in the HDM and it was gone.....now everything is white clean as a whistle. and there is no distortion what so ever....if the lines run straight there is no need for any adjustment.. so sorry to disappoint you . I'm just having FUN ! and still am....

Hey there. There is no official video. It's a mod by the VR Community. You're right. Everyone is responsible for their own doing with vive or anything but at least You showed some kind of tutorial even if not mentioned. Its an open video so people could be interessted in already. As You describe in Channelinfo "Hope to keep You informed in everything" Sorry didn't see the cleaning but I updated my comment. How ever the distortion is relative and destracts different peopIe with different IPD messures. Just because You can't see it does not mean others also can't. I don't judge Your doing I just wanted to tell You that this mod is not for everyone and You should show and tell more about this mod or have a disclaimer. Keep VR alive! Hank

@@VR-CHECK personally i think VR is very underestimated.. people try them out but VR is something that grows on you... your brain must adapt once your eyes and brain get it then you will have MEGA fun... unfortunately everyone just tries it once and a while and that's not enough to get used to it.... But thanks for the comment.

HANK's VR he is just giving advice, if you are the type of person to do something like this to your expensive Vive do you really think people will watch this video only and not do anymore research. If there are people like that then thats there problem and maybe they should not try to mess with things they clearly dont or cant see the risks. I really enjoyed the video and thank you for taking the time to make it. cheers from the UK. Channel VR

give me your address .... i will mail it to you... hope it fits in your mailbox...LOL Thanks mate...gonna do a rig build tutorial video...the rig it self wil only cost about 150 euro....so good for everyone..

Would be fun to go ... not so far from Bruges, Belgium but the only thing i dont have is time....got 2 companies and they take up 120% of my time the rest is for my rig and youtube LOL.

sorry the links keep changing. just look up in google ...etsy.com

Yes a lot of people have talked about distortion...I however haven't got any distortion what so ever. I'm thinking maybe there are different types of lenses out there and also the quality and position of the lens holder my have something to do with it.

@@channelvr1293 i see. where did you get the lenses from? could you provide the link?

@@GoodGuy374 sorry for the late response ..link here : www.etsy.com/nl/listing/618525953/complete-gear-vr-lens-and-adapter-mod?ref=shop_home_active_8&crt=1

true but....you can actually buy prescription glasses so you get the best of both worlds no irritating glasses to wear inside the HMD and better vision.

I honestly don't have any distortion.... i really think it has to do something with the lenses or lens holders...because it seems a lot of people doing the upgrade seem to have problems.... i however have a perfect field of view....

@@channelvr1293 It has nothing to do with the FOV. The new lenses are heavily curved. The old lenses were not. So the picture, which is projected through the new lenses, is also (more) curved now. This is what they call the "barrel distortion" and the Vive needs to be adjusted. It is a bit difficult to describe. Maybe you don't notice it, because it has little impact in the game(s) you play primarily. It should be very noticable in the SteamVR lobby though, the room you are in by default if you just start up SteamVR. The new lenses (from Samsung GearVR RM323) and adapters (from Thingiverse) are actually all the same, so there are no "good" or "bad" adapters (if printed correctly). I did the GearVR mod too and noticed the distortion effect instantly in the SteamVR lobby and had to apply the distortion fix from Reddit.

@@nuclearping i have seen all the video's of sweviver.... however i have done the same tests as he has... i'm also standing in a Cubic room made out of straight lines like standing inside a rubik's cube... so if you are standing inside the cube and all the lines are straight....in all directions.... perfectly aligned... i'm happy.... i have no barrel view.... so nope i'm not changing anything in the software just because others out there have done so... I'm not a person that if everyone else jumps in to the water that i will jump too. I have come this far in life by doing my own thing and not let me be influenced by others . ( i have actually sold red wine to people telling them it is white wine and up till now nobody has tasted the difference ... says a lot about people . I poor the wine into dark Glases and chill the red to 12C° ) but still i think you understand.... i'm almost 50 and have been there and done that ... Oh and one of my friends is a well know eye surgeon and he tells me the lenses ar perfect . You know what is the most important in VR..... your IPD this can make or break your VR experience better then measuring it yourself people should go to a optician for correct measurement. IPD is horizontal but vertical measurement is just as important that's why my video's from inside the HMD suck.... because its important to but the camera (or your eye for that matter) smack in the middle of your lens to get the best results. so thanks for the info ...but in my case not necessary....

@@nuclearping idf you see distortion is down to where your eyes sit in proximity to the lens. fresnel lenses dont have this problem. you could hold the headset in your had t arms length away and what you see through the lens is undistorted. vs these lenses you have to have your eyes be in the right plce. for some people that may be where their eyes naturally sit.

You can find them online... Just look for HTC vive lens upgrade.

@@channelvr1293 Thank u

Nope it's all the same.... don't do like I did in the video..turn them around but you will notice that straight away 👍😉

@@channelvr1293 Okay but it should be mentioned that on the Vive it does matter whic h is left and right in case someone wants to go back.

@@channelvr1293 Thank you for letting me know about that 🙂

@@channelvr1293 last question. Did you have to update/change software like some posters are saying? Or did they work without that? I think they called it "Barrel effect" or something

@garyking6365 nope, nothing at all. Old lens out new one with the holder in..did use a thinner face pad. Increases the fov.

Hi well eeuuh NO ... there is absolutely no distortion that i can see ....lines are straight in horizon and vertical so nope not really a issue ....you just loze a bit of FOV but i counteracted that with buying a face cushion that is half as thick as the original one to your face is closer to the lenses. that widens the FOV.

Nah because it’s cheaper and they make more money per unit

i meant wrong way round......

get your eyes closer to the lenses by using thinner foam to make a custom face pad.

There is no screen door effect at all in my VIVE PRO

@@channelvr1293, that's not true I own a vive pro and there is still a decent amount of sde. Once vr hits 6k there should be no sde at all.

@@niavellir7408 I think that also depends on your eyes, with my old eyes i see very little SDE(Samsung odyssey(not plus)) yet my M8 who is ten yrs younger than me seems to notice it more.

LOL thanks men zegge het voort...

He rambles with a shitty mic who can blame you

yep just like i said...LOL ;-)

x')

www.etsy.com/nl/listing/617255782/htc-vive-lens-upgrade-gear-vr-lens?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=vr%20lens&ref=sr_gallery-1-3&organic_search_click=1

@@channelvr1293 Thanks, I bought a gear vr, now just have to get the adapters printed. I should have waited for your reply.

@@sabresuplay9068 sorry it took so long .... yep waiting is something i'm very bad at too.....too impulsive.....hmm

The link Channel VR posted is wrong. These are the ones he bought: www.etsy.com/listing/618525953/complete-gear-vr-lens-and-adapter-mod

i have new lanses on both the Vive and the Pro now and i have to say ....you have a much better result with the Vive Pro... with the vive it looks better but it also seems to magnify the image so now you can seen this mess grid in front of your eyes more if you focus on it... with the Pro however the results are STUNNING !

oh btw you can make your FOV larger by taking of the faceband and putting on a thinner one helps a lot....my eyes almost touch the lenses..

Marcel, you are right. The FOV is dramatically affected I bought the new lens mainly because this review, however I was not taking account the FOV reduction. The quality is amazing, but the FOV is not good. Channel, would be very informative if you do a new video talking about FOV difference, I really didn't find any one talking about that, however it's an important aspect.

i think i can make the FOV better by printing other rings . like i said in my video they protrude outwards if they would go inwards it should solve the FOV. but a easy fix is a thinner headband. For me FOV is not a problem because i use the HTC mainly for simracing and well if you wear a helmet like in real life this is just about the FOV you get from this.

www.etsy.com/nl/listing/618525953/complete-gear-vr-lens-and-adapter-mod?ref=reviews

Hi, nope didn't change anything on the pc... Just the lenses. Didn't even have to install correction software like some people suggest... Works just fine.

@@channelvr1293 Thank your for the answer. I think that the time is come for me to do it.

@@mohsart9527 go for it i'm sure you wont be dissapointed.

yep West vlaming......

yep you are gonna have fun with the VIVE PRO...but once you will get those lenses in you will be amazed.... here's the link...: www.etsy.com/listing/618525953/complete-gear-vr-lens-and-adapter-mod

@@channelvr1293 Many thanks! Can't wait to get them :)

@@channelvr1293 So i just received my new lenses and man what a difference they make, No more rings! Lens swap out is super easy and they popped in nice, it's like a different kit now :)

@@SeanArcherSDA can i say ...i told you so ?? glad you are happy man.... that's the whole point of sharing stuff on youtube...

@@channelvr1293 They don't seem to ship to the Netherlands (at least not with the link you've given).

you can order lenses here : www.etsy.com/shop/CITY17UNDERGROUND scroll down and you will see them. ;-)

www.etsy.com/listing/618525953/complete-gear-vr-lens-and-adapter-mod

www.etsy.com/nl/listing/617255782/htc-vive-lens-upgrade-gear-vr-lens?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=vr%20lens&ref=sr_gallery-1-3&organic_search_click=1

@@channelvr1293 thanx very much will give it a shot

There are two versions of the VR lens upgrades on etsy.com. I bought these in carbon black: www.etsy.com/listing/618525953/complete-gear-vr-lens-and-adapter-mod I think Channel VR bought the same also since his lens adapter color is blue. The link he posted is for the other version, which only comes in black.

well it all depends on what you already have...the fanatec stuff alone can be expensive but just the moving rig is about 2000 euro. You can make it as expensive as you like..Starting with a PC...from 1000 to 3000 euro...LOL

@@channelvr1293 2000 euros for an actuator based 3dof motion platform? where is this from?

@@juholuomala8414 prosimu its a company in the north of france its actually 2000 euro for a 2dof and 3000 for a 3dof...

@@channelvr1293 wow, thanks! why did i not know about this

I bought a cockpit on Amazon like this for under 200$. You remove 2 casters from your office chair and attach it. Very easy and super cool.

with shocking you mean good ? or bad ? i have new and thinner facepads and adjusted the hmd so my eyes are closer to the screen hence bigger FOV

Channel VR I mean bad

@@RoscoePablo weird because a lot of people tested these out and the FOV was practically the same.. sure they are in the right way..

Channel VR yes bulge on the outside I even tried them the other way around just to make sure, I will order thinner face pads see how that works out.

I did about 2 hours off Assetto Corsa they look really clear, but the FOV is really bad. You can even tell just by look at the lenses side by side the originals are heaps bigger diameter.

You are very right my friend....i have wanted to do that for a while now....but i have BIG friends and they all wanne have a go cant put my chair on rails...because of the seatbelt.. i do indeed get back pain when i'm in there a long time.

Channel VR You should make it fit your needs mainly.. ;) your back problems can actually start to affect you even in other situations later on otherwise. How about an adjustment, making it possible to change position of the pedals for when your friends come over?

and right you are again...... will do.. ;-)

on the field of view ....nope you would think so but NOPE FOV is the same is in my normal VIVE.

+Channel VR Ah okay, that's good!

i have never read a manual in my life .LOL but in this case there wasn't a manual ...just the lenses in a envelope ... i could have left this out of the video and nobody would have known a thing...but that's me...it is what it is....

You tube and vids like this are here to help people and are instructions..If i'm honest i'd have put them in that way also... seems natural. Intelligent people never read instructions they make them :-)

glad i messed up for you ...LOL saves a lot af people a lot of time.... have fun with the new lenses.

well apparently you have the same system and have tried it too... yes ? NOPE i have put this vive on 8 different peoples heads and ALL of them confirm the difference is amazing and none of them see a screen door effect . So sorry but you are wrong . I got people sending me thanks messages saying there vive is so much better.... are they all wrong ???