Vivo Barefoot Primus Lite vs Tolos Archetype 1.0 - Best Training Shoe?

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Today we take a look at the most popular barefoot training shoe, the Vivo Primus Lite III and the recently released Tolos Archetype 1.0.
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31 дек 2022

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@djspell2928 Год назад

Nice, been waiting for this one. Thanks Brandon!

@BasementBrandon Год назад

You bet!

@ChristianHada 10 месяцев назад

Great review! Im glad I found this video along with Jakes. Was originally going to pick up VIvos, but im definitely getting the Tolos now.

@BasementBrandon 10 месяцев назад

Appreciate it! I just wore mine for USAPL Raw Nationals. If you want Basement now saves you 10% too.

@Nuggetams Год назад

I just saw your Instagram post about these shoes and I decided to look them up for reviews on RU-vid. Did not expect you to be the one doing the review haha

@BasementBrandon Год назад

😅 Tim Thebideau also has a video on them, I might have linked it in the description.

@matthiassventoest6800 Год назад

been a long time since I dropped in on your channel.. not a power lifter, but you have good insights on stuff. I have been thinking about tolos.., after seeing Joel that fit friend.., good stuff

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Been enjoying them!

@jamestonbellajo Год назад

Jake Boly really got me into wanting Tolos but I was waiting for more reviews. Now that you’ve spoken about them, I think I’ll finally get a pair. His interview with the owner/founder was really great too. Also, how would you compare these to your Notorious deadlift slippers?

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I still like my Gen 2 (non sumo) slippers. I never really liked any of the newer ones b/c the sidewalls from the soles were built up too much for my liking and made the shoes feel narrower. Also didn't like some of the newer straps. I still wear mine but wanted something a bit more shoe like.

@dumbass0621 Год назад

Had my primus lite 3s for a year and a half. Can’t go back to wearing regular shoes now in my day to day. I use them in the gym and for running.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Nice!

@davidvo84 Год назад

I was waiting for this video, eager and ready to jump on the barefoot shoe train. Sad to find that Tolos don't ship to Canada (yet). Any idea when international shipping will be an option? Love your reviews as usual, been watching your channel for years

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I'd just shoot them a message on IG. He's super responsive.

@ConnorRianHickey Год назад

I love the wide toe box of the vivos, I’ve had them three months. I planned on using them as gym shoes but they are my daily driver now

@BasementBrandon Год назад

right on! I have a pair of Innov8's I wear outside the gym currently.

@amroc Год назад

I wear a pair of vivo as my duty boots. They're an amazing brand.

@807paperclip Год назад

Been training with the Vivo for about 2 years now and was having the same issue with the shoestrings. Came across something that I call a hybrid of a double knot that works like a boss (tictok soccer player video). When you build your first bunny ear and wrap the other shoestring around once and that is the normal set up, but do it twice, that is what I call the hybrid double knot.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Will give it a go, thank you!

@garagegymgoon Год назад

@@BasementBrandon Been tying my boots like this for a while...absolute GAME CHANGER...never comes untied and isnt all bulky and annoying like a double knot. Unties like a single not. Just pull and it comes undone.

@garagegymgoon Год назад

@@BasementBrandon ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3HWgtg011mI.html

@kozmo7 Год назад

Best thing I did was switching to barefoot style shoes from my Chucks which crammed my wide feet together like a ballerina Really love my VIVO’s. Good stuff my dude

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I could never get used to lifting in Chucks for that reason

@alexwignall1053 Год назад

Have you tried Splay Athletics shoes? I LOVE them. Wear them at the gym and at work. I have a pair of vivos and vibrams as well

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I have not!

@billanonymous4195 Год назад

Is either shoe good for doing goblet squats standing on a slant board (i.e., do they lock your feet in place well enough to avoid jamming your toes against the front of the shoe)? Thanks.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I find both are comfortable for this.

@AnthonyTran Год назад

Those are not bad looking! I had a pair of Xero shoes that are not as thin as my Vibrams and you also need to size up but they’re another good budget option.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

My man, thanks for checking in

@SMWTheBar Год назад

I tried a couple sizes of Primus Lites- the toes roll up when they’re a tad small. Do the Tolos have the same feel? Or are they flatter, further to the front?

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I didn’t get that feeling from either tbh!

@JoelP1961 Год назад

I’ve been wearing Chris Duffin’s Bearfoot shoes for two years now and have gravitated away from my Romaleos and Adipowers on squat days. I like being able to root my feet into the floor!

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I don't mind mine so much as they're just annoying for me to put on/take off. First world problems.

@nicholasesunis1465 Год назад

Both of my Bearoot ursus shoes were falling apart out of the box. Stiching was unfinished and heels peeling off. I was sent a replacement that was worst than the first. Both worsened significantly before even finish the first gym days in them.

@ECUpunk Год назад

Without any ankle support, any issues with the the feet sliding in the shoe?Like in a wide stance squat or sumo DL?

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I don't pull sumo so can't really comment, but Dan Grigsby and Jamal Browner both pull sumo in the Vivos.

@Doggomorph Год назад

Another shoe that is about to be sent over thanks mate

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Hope you dig whatever ones you pick!

@jeremy_c9163 Год назад

Waiting on that Pepin Fast db review!

@BasementBrandon Год назад

This week lol

@bmstylee Год назад

I've been wearing the same shoes for years. Otomix for deadlift and Romealos 2 for everything else.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I found the Otomix ones were too narrow for my liking personally!

@pritulaag Год назад

Which shoe has the thinner sole? I'd be using these as a deadlift shoe mostly.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Both feel similar

@samrmills 7 месяцев назад

Might be able to go TTS with your 12.5 in the Tolos 2.0 from what the difference spec sheets say. Hope you do a review if you get a new pair of the Tolos 2.0s. thx!

@BasementBrandon 7 месяцев назад

I actually got some in. Was waiting till the Avancus 1.5 show up this week to do a comparison.

@samrmills 7 месяцев назад

Awesome. Looking forward to it!

@Beerzy Год назад

I've had Vivo Barefoot shoes for a couple years. Recommended by my chiropractor Friend who is also a powerlifter and exercise enthusiast.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Right on!

@HighSpinSwingSpeed Год назад

I remember when I used to run in Vibram 5 fingers and anytime someone asked me how I liked them I would say “they are socially awkward”. I always felt like people were staring at my feet when I wore them.

@josemv25 Год назад

They were

@BasementBrandon Год назад

They def were!

@Rev0UK1 Год назад

I'd pick up a pair of the Tolos if they eventually show up on UK retailer sites for barefoot shoes. Wear a lot of Xero shoes over that of vivo's.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Right on!

@user-pm8df4uf1s Год назад

How about comparing with reebok powerlite?

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I may be able to do that, I still have 3 pairs.

@douglowry7382 Год назад

Off topic question but what green shorts were you wearing in some of the clips?

@BasementBrandon Год назад

They're Ten Thousand Tactical Shorts, 7" w/liner. They're pricey, but they're really nice and have a lifetime warranty. I've bought lots of shorts for this company over the last year and I think the tactical ones are my favorite.

@douglowry7382 Год назад

@@BasementBrandon thanks I’ll check them out. I like the look. You prefer the liner vs no liner?

@BasementBrandon Год назад

@@douglowry7382 I do. I like the extra bulk and they're not the annoyingly long liners that stick out below the short.

@Ashurus Год назад

@@BasementBrandon Reviews on good gym clothing would be nice if you have time for some videos on that. I only have the Foundation short and it's nice, will check out the Tactical.

@NoFate247 Год назад

Wish they had these in red

@dumbass0621 Год назад

They do have the Vivos in red if I remember correctly. Black, white, red, blue. I think the waterproof ones might be grey.

@NoFate247 Год назад

@@dumbass0621 OK credit card incoming 😂🤦‍♂️

@BasementBrandon Год назад

The vivo has a "rust" color

@vincentdin Год назад

Vevo sounds better for me with the wider toe box, thanks for the review Brandon.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

No problem!

@josem9827 Год назад

How do these compare to the barefoot ursus from Chris duffin

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I like these much better. The Barefoot ones for me are a pain to get on and off and feel more like a slipper when wearing.

@Jeneric81 Год назад

I’ll wait for whatever those new shoes are that David Woolson is using

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Yeah have been talking to him as well!

@devinnate Год назад

How do you like these shoes vs slippers/ Notorious Lifters?

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Copy and pasting from another response I just left: I still like my Gen 2 (non sumo) slippers. I never really liked any of the newer ones b/c the sidewalls from the soles were built up too much for my liking and made the shoes feel narrower. Also didn't like some of the newer straps. I still wear mine but wanted something a bit more shoe like.

@devinnate Год назад

@@BasementBrandon Thanks, and thank you for the fantastic videos / info. Happy New year.

@billy.bright Год назад

Tolos here. Looks better especially the black. Material thicker and more durable. No shoe tongue or insole inside so they fit like a glove and no distracting feelings while wearing without socks. Can also wear unlaced while still feeling secure as if tied. The material is also thick enough so that you don't feel like your thumb toe nail is going to cut a hole in the upper like some mesh style shoes eventually do. And finally they are $115 ... in stock and arrived at my door in 3 days!!! Tolos for the win.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Appreciate the feedback!

@aronhegedus Год назад

been using primus lite 3s for just about a year for training and walking in every day. the shoeaces SUCK, I should have replaced them sooner, basically you need a double knot or it'll be undone very quickly. Also the mesh on the top (especially at the sides) tends to deteriorate as time goes on. Wish it was a normal price, like 40$ for a pair

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Thanks for the tip about the laces!

@joecowan3719 Год назад

"I wear 13's, know what I mean" RIP Biggie

@BasementBrandon Год назад

The funny thing is when I was a teenager/early 20s I wore size 15 in most cases. Not sure how that worked out that I wear a 12.5 now.

@joecowan3719 Год назад

@@BasementBrandon I think back in the day companies made basketball shoes smaller so we could dream we could be as big as Shaq's.

@MrJBlich Год назад

@@BasementBrandon I think that’s called shrinkage

@froggy-man Год назад

@@BasementBrandon probably just colder out

@dylanmc2727 Год назад

Because when we are young we are idiots and don’t wear clothes that fit properly. I think men tend to have the habit of thinking they are bigger than they are especially when we are young. Bigger clothes were also a fad too.

@Aguynearu Год назад

Are those the primes lite 3 or 2. Can’t tell the difference

@BasementBrandon Год назад

@Aguynearu Год назад

@@BasementBrandon have you own the 2s prior? Any significant difference. If its not notable I might as well try to find a pair on revivo

@BasementBrandon Год назад

@@Aguynearu I have not!

@thebionicman52 Год назад

Look cool however I can’t get past the white on white. Also hate shoes with white soles they get dirty quick!

@BasementBrandon Год назад

They do make different colors!

@HighSpinSwingSpeed Год назад

I wear Nike Frees for training, curious how these compare. Nice clip of the kiddo, I bet he loves that.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I have some Nike Frees and don't love them for training. Sole is thicker and squishier than I like and I find Nikes to be narrow.

@phantomboy27 Год назад

Flat laces make the Vivo so much more wearable

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Prob will go that route once these wear!

@CosmicawarenessCitizen Год назад

Solution to your issue with your untied laces just change the laces that is all

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I did the double loop trick mentioned below and it's worked well too.

@crazilyon 9 месяцев назад

LOL never ever respond to DMs asking for feet pics.... too creepy!

@BasementBrandon 8 месяцев назад

😅

@unnaturalatrophy8443 Год назад

Just FYI to anyone thinking about making the switch to barefoot shoes -- I am due for surgery due to chronic pain after wearing barefoot shoes for 2 years. My podiatrist is saying the likely cause was the shoes themselves. Concrete is hard folks, walking on it barefoot is not a good idea.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Hmmm I've been wearing minimal shoes in my every day life for around that long and haven't had any issues yet 🤞

@StevePCut 8 месяцев назад

He may have gone "cold turkey" into barefoot shoes and not done a proper transition

@imanslayer Год назад

The BALLISTIC TRAINERS from GoRuck are the best training shoes.

@BasementBrandon Год назад

Would like to hear your thoughts as to why? They remind me of Nike MetCons or Reebok Nanos. Not something I like lifting in.

@imanslayer Год назад

@@BasementBrandon for general training I believe is the best. But for powerlifting I still believe barefoot is the only way to go.

@furezj Год назад

Wrestling shoes, guys. Stop making this complicated for yourselves. This company and many others have created a brand off a problem that never existed.

@bobu4055 Год назад

Not the same. Wrestling shoes are very narrow compared to vivo. Huge difference

@HoZzilla1 Год назад

“My” only issue is that wrestling shoes are typically narrow. If you get some with wider toe box, they’re a bit more expensive (basically in the range of Tolos and Vivos).

@BasementBrandon Год назад

I’ve owned and worn them. Too narrow and toe is typically turned up.

@Jeneric81 Год назад

Not grippy enough for benching