Today i happened to visit his master-class at the University of California, Los Angeles. He is incredible. As soon as he started working with his students, i felt like I was in another would, it was magical. Just 2 hours in his presence made me want to go to that university and study vocal) I am grateful I've experience such an event, as meeting him, in my life.
this is for all of you:with all my humbleness..I..a simple dilettante...dare to do my opinion:beauty after all. Expression after all. i'm an ignorant..but...this version is so expressive.....so..perfect in terms of beauty! and we,simple mortals,whom don't understand anything about vocal technique...we...we need..we ask for beauty and sensitivity. and this master have both of them. Forgive me,sirs..I am not a conaisseur... Respectfully ankhsnammon
Yes of course. I too have a high F (even a G). Listen to my Bass Low Notes posting - e.g. the cadenza from a high F to a low C. The point is that all F's are not the same. The best version of this aria on RU-vid is probably the one by Peter Mattei. He sings a final high F that I certainly could never sing, any more than I could sing the "Se Voul Ballare" high F's like Siepi. Softer is harder. BTW - I love Chernov's voice.
I'd prefer they don't sing those high F's. It's like a baritone trying to be a tenor. Only do it if you can sound super natural, not falsetto. Otherwise stay down, which is much more organic with the music. I like this.
@Fedoton Может вы их не очень внимательно слушали.Он мог сказать что нибудь важное, но тихо и на записи вы этого не заметили, например как брать высокую ноту.
My dear...i don't have the complete recording....unfortunately!!! Specially,I love the duel scene ...and,the end of the opera...God!...it is a masterwork of Chernov ' s acting!!! Nina(ankhsnammon)
Я тоже слушала в Спб Капелле,на благотворительном концерте. Выкладывался полностью.Пел великолепно! Впрочем,как всегда(была на 3х его концертах). А заболеть и Вы можете.
слышал в зале чайковского на концерте 'для бедных' неск лет назад-вот звучал он именно на ту сумму,сколько стоил билет-рублей на сто, сказали-болен был
Are you Riccardo Muti in disguise? Why so puritanical about high notes? As I remember about half of the recorded Onegins go up at the end of the aria and the other half don't. Somebody do a count. Like Verdi said to Tamberlik about his amendment to Di Quella Pira - "Yes but it had better be a good High C".
@VeraChud ВЫ ЛУЧШЕ ПОСЛУШАЙТЕ МАСТЕР-КЛАСС ВЕДЕРНИКОВА , ЕГО ЛЕГКО НАЙТИ , НАБРАВ В ПОИСКОВИКЕ .Я -НЕ ПРОФЕССИОНАЛЬНЫЙ ПЕВЕЦ, НО ИНТЕРЕСУЮСЬ ЭТИМ ДАВНО И МОГУ УВЕРЕННО СКАЗАТЬ , ЧТО ТЕ , У КОГО ПРОБЛЕМЫ С ВЕРХНИМИ НОТАМИ - ЗНАЧИТ ПРОБЛЕМЫ С ПЕНИЕМ ВООБЩЕ... НУЖНО НАЙТИ ПРАВИЛЬНУЮ ОСНОВУ ПЕНИЯ В ЦЕЛОМ !..
У Ведерникова очень своеобразный подход, и некоторым он может лишь навредить. По поводу верхних нот - правда, но опять же, не всегда и не во всем. Голосовые данные забывать не стоит. У того же Гобби всегда была напряжёнка с верхними нотами, что не мешает ему по сей день считаться эталонным баритоном, с чем глупо поспорить
I'm sure everyone here has compared this version to that of Hvorostovsky. Yet no one has pointed up the very obvious difference - Chenov skips the high F at the end of the aria. I heard Chernov in his US debut. I was struck with the beauty of his voice but he didn't know how to get to the top. A few years later he had mastered the high notes and became the primo baritone at the Met. He left the Met. I suspect he was never a high baritone at all - like Terfel. Hear his "My Way".
Chernov is great, he has an absolute richness and darkness in his voice that suits Verdi Baritones beautifully. He does have the high notes, see his final high A in Rigoletto for example. The difference herein lies, of course, that the Rigoletto high A is on an fff (la maledizione - the curse) and the final high F in Onegin is on a pp, which of course is much more difficult to do. But he does after all have to sing the high Gb in his second aria and even does the optional high G at the end of Onegin (pazor, taska, ah, zjalkij zhrebi moj!). He doesn't have the lyricism required for this quiet high F because he's a Dramatic Baritone. And that can fit for an Onegin, but I prefer my Lyric Baritones as Onegin because they're more gentle in their voice, even Lyric Baritones who sing many Dramatic roles (Hvorostovsky, Hampson, Keenlyside, Rucinski). My favorite Onegin overall has to be Mariusz Kwiecien, maybe my favorite singer. Also listen to Chernov in Yeletsky's Aria from Pikovaya Dama (Ya vas lyublyu). More dramatic and fits his voice much better.
I am Galantha nina,from argentina...but with hungarian origins...between various others...there are same different blood running across my veins!!! but all the people knows me here as "Ankhsnammon_"
Lies!!! Hvorostovsky can't play...NOTHING!!! He's a failure!! A product of the show biz...nothing more!!! Chernov is a MASTER!!!!! (And his handsomeness is NATURAL,not a ridiculous product of surgeries!) nina(ankhsnammon)
Hvorostovsky had a good voice, but he was not elegant, and he was flamboyant. Chernov is subtle, elegant, and such a gentleman. I agree that his good looks are natural and not a product of surgeries ❤
