Vocal Coach Reacts to EUROVISION WINNER! (Loreen - Tattoo) 

Only these days because backround vocals are now allowed. They did not use to be. It's only from year 2021 that backupvocals were allowed to be in the performance.

It has been changed now. Backing vocals can be made louder and that happened with Poland. Also that year when Estonia had "Verona" the female's voice was completely muted during the chorus in the semi-final and another voice of someone singing behind the stage with brackground singers was put on, so it doesn't have to be the actual performer all the time singing live I guess.

Yeah, Tattoo doesn't have backing vocals and so there are no backing vocals in the live performance, meaning Loreen sang everything live.

@@RubyChiang Looking for the part I said Loreen had backing vocals.

very true... that performance is out of this world

I totally agree

I'm glad you pointed that out, because they're rarely if ever as "perfect". Although I have to say, I thought if Tusse went to Eurovision doing Voices the way he did in his winners reprise, he might have done better! I loved his ad-libbing!! The energy and spontaneity was great!

I swear why does Tristan keep getting this wrong?

@@NoahPurdyFRGetting what wrong? He literally says that it’s the winners performance, the one after they win, at 1:07 🤨

​@@rjs2035 yeah he literally says all this right in the beginning.

Yes, but recorded backing vocals got allowed a couple of years ago. And instruments are sadly not allowed live.

@@rowaystarco I believe they’re going to revert back to the old one. The new JESC does not allow reprecorded backing vocals this year, so expect a change to the adult contest as well.

​@@rowaystarcoyou know covid? They was not allowed to have that many there

Well, partially because of Covid, but also to modernize the concept.@@AnniCarlsson

@@rowaystarco not really a change when it now goes back to normal

Totally agree!! That was flawless

I agree!

her dress rehearsal was vocally the best imo

i agree. she wasn't sick there and had bigger screen above her

yess its way better!!

So do i! It makes it so much more real and raw and everything🥰❤️ I love Loreen sm

i watched a lot of her performances , she always does the 'ugh' sound , i really like it , and it makes the songs better , you should watch other performances they were better recorded

@@melodystar3738 It also shows how down to earth she is, she is not trying to be perfect on the winning performance just to deliver yet again a song she won with, just pure expression and love and she is not afraid to change the sounds and style of the performance. First the song was done perfect, later on it became more and more playful and more done to interact with the audience.

that's how losers cope 🤣

But the difference in televotes was huge. Sweden didn't get a single 12-pointer from the televote. Finland won the vast majority of televotes. Plus you need to remember that very CONVENIENTLY like half of the juries gave Finland 0 or 1-3 points. Is Finland really a 0 point song? It's not just that juries spammed 12s at Sweden, they completely snubbed Finland. Loreen really won with euphoria 2.0 Meanwhile Finland innovated with a key change + genre change midway through the song that fitted the narrative of the lyrics. Plus it is a fucking bop.

@@monkeyapo8516 stay MAD loreen won get over it omgg

@@monkeyapo8516How did the jury snub Cha cha cha ?! The song got 4th with a very very Jury unfriendly song … Songs like Queen of kings or Break a broken heart deserve many more jury points than Finland. Y’all are just blinded by bias. Finland actually deserved way less jury votes. Btw did Sweden get tons of 10’s points in televote so stop being bitter.

@@flolikeyou6053 damn you chose violence

I loved Euphoria so much! Bought the album after her win and listened to it on repeat. She's a great singer.

Euphoria is a masterpiece in my opinion and will always be remembered! Even now , the song is still a big thing in Europe!

She won because next year it's Abba's anniversary. The song is the same as her first winning song.

@@R4M_Tommy bffr

​@@R4M_Tommy how? How is it the same as Euphoria?

I adore Jere Poyhonen (Kaarija), but he is NOT a vocalist.. the performance showed it.. He is a rapper, and was brilliant in that first portion. LIke others have said, a huge crowd pleaser, but definitely lacking in technical excellence etc.

@@ZakhadWOW not even that great of a rapper. He sounded out of breathe after half the song

@Filip Kostin but if we speak about vocals - Norway was a blast ! The thing about Eurovision is not just about vocals, this song , this type of performance has been seen and this is why people are not pleased. If you are going to win 2 times with the same singer and song -why not do it all the time ? Why not Norway win -vocals, text, strong song- Kaarija wrote that song himself , a small rapper going in Eurovision and making everyone wanting to sing his song - who cares about some bad vocals? The song was catchy, fun, somthing new -fun ! My top 3 were Finland, Norway and Croatia !

​@Filip Kostin It's called eurovision SONG contest not eurovision singing contest. The contester from Finland competed with a _rap song_ that only had singing in the chorus. To compare a singer and a rapper based on solely singing ability (when there are many other factors that play into a song or live performance being well liked or not) is nonsensical to say the least.

@Filip Kostin "You cannot say his performance and overall package was better because doing so wouldn't objectively be true" It's _music_ There is no way to objectively compare two songs from two completely different genres. What you are confusing as an objective fact there is literally just your opinion An opinion that the bigger percentage of people who ended up voting disagree with by the way. You'd think someone would at least have stats on their side before making comments like that🤦‍♀️ "If you go to a song contest and present yourself as an artist/singer"- He presented himself as a _rapper_ . In every single article about esc (that I read at least) he is referenced as a rapper and he entered the contest with a _rap_ song. I stated this already, do keep up. If you are one of those people that think rap songs are "lower quality" or that rappers aren't real musical artists just out of principle - take a step back from your hypocrisy of telling other people they are not being objective because you have just shown black on white that you are not willing to be objective when it comes to who should be winning a _song_ (not singing but _song_ ) contest show. The fact that you are labelling the Finnish performance as a "people pleaser" while Tattoo - judging by lyrics, melody, production etc. - is literally a generic pop song highly similar to what you would hear on the radio is just delusional. Pop is literally THE genre of people pleasing. This guy took a lot of risk going out on stage in a spike collar and doing weird stuff on stage. There could have just as well been more people in the croud who found that too out there. On top of that I would argue they took an even bigger risk submitting a song in an extremely niche language such as Finnish. People are automatically more likely to enjoy songs they understand which is obviously why so many contestants submit English songs. It is actually the _less_ people pleasing thing to submit a song in Finnish. The reason they got so many votes is not due to people pleasing but due to the people finding it the best performance. Nothing against the singer Loreen, she sure had one of the best vocal performances, but we simply cannot pretend that is all that makes a good song a good song or a good performance a good performance. Other people had great vocal performances as well. Doesn't mean their song and overall package + performance was better.

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Omg yes. And people saying Eurovision wanted Sweden to win are so dumb. Eurovision literally chose Finland to perform after two ballads (Italy and Estonia) so it was a huge headstart

​@@Whatever-de9jb THIS! the production gave finland as much help as they could with the running order, like no one has won from a single digit running order since 2003, plus Sweden was placed right after their perceived greatest competition in the jury (which, even though it didn't come to fruition, many thought it wasn't a good spot at all.)

I heard finnish Käärijä fans refused to vote for Loreen (a strategic move to give her less points -> Finland more likely to get better result and perhaps win) Not sure if it's true tho but I honestly think it's true, cause it makes sense 😅 Usually we get (many) points from Finland

I mean, people complained last year that Ukraine didn't deserve the win due to pity votes from the public. Now they're upset at the jury this year. This literally happens every year, so I'm not surprised.

Perfect example of what she can do covering someone else's song: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fnvEd-3NO8o.html

Let me also add that she’s tried Eurovision 4 times, making it twice and winning both times. (Try 2 and 4)..also thank you for putting out videos!

some really gooSweden writes/produces so much music even to other countries in Eurovision but we don't have that many good artists compared to how many good writers we have nxkxkfkdkn but ofc we have some really good artists too

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Thank you. As a Swede I'm so damn sick of hearing that damn conspiracy theory. I almost wish Finland would've won just to not hear people moan about Abba 😅 And i loved both songs, both are on my playlist, i would've been happy who ever won. 🥰

So true, like 90% of Kaarija stans are toxic af

I'm a Brit and I think she deserved the win HANDS DOWN! Fabulous sing sung brilliantly amd her futuristic , trapped in a weird box act with those crazy nails, and the way she swept them round like some sort of space creature , just a brilliant act imo. I really would like to hear which of the other acts people think beat it. 90% were seriously bad and only a few , maybe 4 or 5 were average to good. 2 were pretty good I'd say amd one of those was Loreen. On the night I thought she smashed the competition

Ukrain won with the points heavy the other way around and nobody compleined. But Loreen get skit for what other countries woted. So much bs

@@windmillswede Dock glad att Loreen vann så att dem som hatar på hennes kunde få den käftsmällen! Käärijä fansen var alldeles för högljudda, för giftiga, allt för otacksamma som inte ens kunde vara glada för hans höga placering och arroganta som redan i förväg firade hans vinst trots att de visste Loreen lika gärna vinna, dem får skylla sig själva. Det var en förjävlig artist som var sur på Loreen också och som kallade henne för en diva bara för att hon som del av en publik fick vänta lite extra länge på att se henne uppträda på konsert men sjöng inte Euphoria, Loreen till och med bad om ursäkt om det som inte menade på att göra någon besviken men denna personen tar inte ens emot ursäkten som inte alls behövdes och hon ville bara hata på henne för den mest barnsligaste orsak, snacka om att låta avundsjukan ta över, hon till och med sa att hon skulle kolla på Eurovision bara för att se Loreen förlora, alltså vilken fitta, det kändes så skönt att se Loreen vinna för då vet jag att hon inte fick som hon ville. Sen denna Abba konspirations-teori är i och för sig också väldigt irriterande, det kommer dock inte att funka i längden, förr eller senare kommer dem själva inse hur dumma dem är.

Not single 12 points from anyone, she wasnt anyones favorite, swedes cant take the fact that not everyone love their "queen" 😂

@@misc9936 I'm not from Sweden, I voted for Sweden. As did millions of other people.

@@worthaspin millions my azz... Lets imagine how many voted for Käärijä, second best televote result after Ukraines 2022 votes 😂😂 HE is the real peoples winner, HE was the main character of last ESC, HE is the icon.

@@misc9936 He is the one who didn't win Eurovision 😂😂😂

@@misc9936 lol seems like you don't know how many people voted. Honestly, get a life. Without the jury basicly none of the previous winners would've won.

True

Cha cha cha was awful , let's face it. For some reason you're not allowed to say it , karijaa fans are all toxic and can't accept people don't always like basic heavy club tunes that's are a dime a dozen. And easily forgotten

​@@hazed1009idk but they got the most televotes so "awful" might not be a common consensus.

@@claw4286 fair point. After all there really isn't bad music, if someone likes it it's not bad 😁, I guess I should have said "I think it's awful" as a personal opinion. My bad

@@hazed1009 You don't have to say "i think", just like you don't have to add "in my opinion" to every opinion stated. When talking about a subjective matter, "i think" or "in my opinion" is always implied.

@@hazed1009 Dude yes, it was awful literally and scientifically sth. More people should be truth tellers. Also that televote seems like a scam, just to add spice to the competition. Because it's impossible to know what's going on about it. And I'm not a Eurovision freak but at least considering the last 3 years, it did not change the jurys' decisions of who is the winner.

So glad someone mentioned this! The weird nitpicking is wild, she had just made history and sounded like she did and people are still trying to find something wrong with her performance.

@@Rose-cj7wi The intro alone shows that he wants to find bad things and did not give this a fair chance. I'm not saying he has to love it like I do, but it's obvious he was influenced and trying to influence others. Other vocal coaches reacted blind and it was so much better.

@@lb2419 Exactly! You know someone isn’t reacting genuinely when the only comparison they make is to Kaarija. 26 finalists and somehow the only song Tattoo is compared to is it’s complete opposite, which for me wasn’t even close to winning.

wish I could have but then my video would have gotten blocked in the US as well ;(

yea and she was probably drinking and stuff 😭

+1 I think we should appreciate countries that put in the effort to provide us great performances. It is just disheartening to see so much negativity against Sweden. Especially they have been given us great performances. And this is coming from me, a non-Sweden Stan.

I'd argue Finland had exactly those things going for them better than Sweden lol, whereas Sweden was superior in vocals, radio friendliness, and mainstream appeal

@@casperix3741yeah, Finland was definitely a fun and lively performance but Sweden had vocals over Finland. Loreen is a literal vocalist who received a great song that complimented her voice, so much that she went above and beyond with her performance. The stage, her voice, the costuming, the song, everything tied in perfect for her and it isn’t unbelievable that she won.

@@crterjd8154 Yeah, i agree that it's definitely not unbelievable, and she certainly had one of the strongest vocals as well as a well-produced and catchy song

the jury voted the day before the grand final if im not mistaken

@@supertiredmerr yeah, but the performances are usually very similar to each other.

@@RubyChiang yup

mine as well

this year Eurovision imo was weak, Loreen easily stood out

perfect comment. You are not alone in this opinion

@@MrMcFly-uv2lx that's what happened when they let public voting 100% in semi final lol.

The song was a sample of pont aeri's flying free and Abba's the winner takes it all. Samples are great but not in Eurovision

Yea. So many conspiracy theories and false stories within the fandom this year.

Yeah, and if it ever would be a possibility after this shit storm it will absolutely not happen

Thinking about it now, it is quite surprising that Cha Cha Cha gotten way more Jury points than Spain/France/Norway.

​@@venycal Well I guess that's the pressure that a large part of the community exerted in advance :D Even though there were certainly plenty members of the jury who really enjoyed Cha Cha Cha as well to be honest ;)

@@venycal oh that was what i was thinking too. it's like the jury also helped boosting the song to get more points even though there are better vocals like the ones you just said and also estonia. i was surprised finland placed above estonia in jury vote.

@@venycal Norway got absolutely trashed by the juries, a third place with televotes, 17th place with the juries. That's a jury steal, Finland however got quite good jury results.

Finalnd managed to finish 4th with the jury, I'd say thats more than enough

it seems like these people build their own narrative that somehow the public that decided the winner (which is not true based on the 50/50 system) because of what happened in 2021 and 2022 where the winner got the most televote and moderate jury votes.

She did get a lot of points, but the televote difference to Käärijä was 133 points, and Käärijä scored the third highest televote score ever recorded, so it kind of makes sense that there are a lot of unhappy Käärijä fans right now

Exactly. Americans can't avoid to compare Eurovision with the singing competitions they know, like American Idol or Got Talent, and they tend to forget this is a *song contest* not a singing competition (of course the singing is important, but not the main part for the performance to be evaluated) as you said, nowadays is a show contest.

Armenia was good too

She did, but the difference in the televote score to Käärijä was 133 points, which is equivalent to a televote placement of 6th-7th, so it's not a small difference by any means.

I kind of agree with the first part of your comment, but not the second part. Finland rarely gets much Eurovision success, and they were so hungry for a second win, and Käärijä also took this as a huge personal failure. It kind of makes me upset to see how little people in Sweden seem to care about the win they got when Finland wanted it so bad. Just compare the videos of Käärijä and Loreen arriving at the airport after Eurovision. Käärijä has hundreds of people waiting for him despite him coming second, whereas Loreen is greeted by a couple of journalists and a handful of fans.

@@casperix3741people in Sweden didn’t treat this win like nothing though, it’s just hard to celebrate it online or celebrate the success of Loreen simply by commenting when they are literally bashed for simply being happy for her. Finland has struggled in Eurovision and hasn’t really gotten much appreciation or recognition but there’s no need to be feral and go after the winner online as if she didn’t deserve this. Loreen had strong vocals, she’s a beautiful vocalist, and her performance was very majestic. Loreen had everything to offer that would capture the votes from the jury, even the televotes, her song was deeper and on a gravitational level of how catchy it was.

@@crterjd8154 I agree that people shouldn't go after Loreen or bash anyone for supporting her. What you mainly see in videos of both Loreen's airport reception and her winning concert in Sweden though is a lack of enthusiasm among the crowd, particularly in comparison to the reception of Käärijä.

Yup. For the past 20 years (if I remember correctly, it's 27 years), I believe there were only two winning songs (three including 2023) that came from single digit running order (1-9). And Tattoo was given single digit running order. And yea, the conspiracy does not make sense when Finland was given the opportunity to perform last twice! (Grand Final: Finland given the last possible spot when Finland drew 1st half)

I agree that Loreen is a really strong vocalist, but honestly i think Dilja from Iceland was even more impressive, especially with all the crazy stunts she was doing while singing. I was heartbroken when she didn't qualify

I still remember when Ukraine won in 2016 without winning neither the televote nor the jury vote. And in 2019, the televote winner came in 6th place.... Finland's fans should be proud for their second place instead of throwing hate on Loreen.

@@ronnopotter To be fair , I think the most hate that is thrown is from the Eurofans.

He clearly stated that in the video

He knows

Also for the record, while I was rooting for Finland with everyone else at the end, neither song was my favorite. I'd point you towards Estonia or Czechia for excellent but overlooked songs. Poland and Israel also had very fun pop songs that were well executed.

the semi finals were all televotes and sweden qualified from it.

i will never forget how people turned the celebration to a hate campaign. flooding her tiktok and youtube with annoying comments. and not to mention they're spamming downvotes in her winner performance video. truly awful

Wow, just listened to it and it was amazing ❤ Thanks for sharing!

Yup! First woman to win 2x in ESC. And second act to win 2x in ESC.

yeah, the Finnish televoters gave Sweden zero points while the juries of both countries gave each other 12 points.

Also you can totally tell what she’s saying