One of the most interesting exchanges I've had in the last years ! Lolli has such an incredible knowledge of voice, it's fascinating :) Time to practice my mixed voice now 🌊
I hope these videos never slow down. FVM is a member of our community in such a big way now. 💕 so much love and passion and knowledge and excitement to learn and teach! Truly the mother our community of lost boys has needed for so many years
I think it would be fascinating if River' could show you how he does throat bass, inward bass, a liproll, whistles (more noises involving the voice itself, your very own field). You could get a lot out of it and even tear apart the structure and science behind all this amazing noises that we as beatboxers barely know. We know the sounds, but you know the science behind it.
There's a vid in youtube where a polyphonic overtone singer (think kyaagura overtone-singing) is singing in an MRI machine. I learned a lot from it. I would love to see a pro-beatboxer do high-level stuff the same way.
Lolli's got a whole market now. When top beatboxers like River' start to use more singing vocal techniques, every aspiring champion is going to pay Lolli for lessons. This is how schools like Julliard start, Lolli. Take advantage of this.
This is such an amazing collaboration, I appreciate so much you two doing this! I hope beatboxers can share this video around the community as its great for both helping beatboxers improve their singing technique and also bringing more attention to beatboxing techniques with in the singing community. It can be trickier for longer form videos to do well, so any bit of support helps bring more attention to it and encourages more collaborations like this in the future.
I learned from this video: 1. @1:04: TA (ThyroArytenoid) Muscle shortens vocal folds > Reduce Tension > low singing, engaged when speaking (Mode 1) 2. @1:20: CT (CricoThyroid) muscle elongates vocal folds > raise tension of vocal folds > heightens pitch, thin voice (Mode 2) 3. @1:31: TA and CT work antagonistic (TA would be biceps, CT Triceps) to control the vocal folds 4. Low/Speaking Voice (Mode 1) has only TA active, High/Thin Voice (Mode 2) has only CT active. 5. @1:37: Switching between High and low voice only changes the active muscle (see 4.), while the other is inactive 6. @1:42: Mixed voice means using and controlling TA and CT at the same time -> harder than only one muscle (see 5.) 7. @2:19: You can make one muscle more dominant (heighten its muscle tone in relation to the other?) by warming up from "its" direction/Mode. I.e. warm up from the top down to make CT dominant and prepare thin voice singing. (Mode 1) And warm up botton to top to make TA dominant and have low resonation/weight. (Mode 2 singing) 8. @2:56: Mode 1 is speech, TA dominant. --- Mode 2 is thin, CT dominant 9. @3:07: Top down warmup exercises (for CT dominance) 10. @4:28: Larynx is like a little box in which the vocal folds are. You can change the sound of the voice by using same pitch (keep TA&CT activation the same?) and bringing larynx up or down. 11. @4:56: Lift up larynx for high singing, lower it for more resonance (low singing) 12. @5:42: Lower Larynx for more room for producing the voice (harder to control), lift larynx to make room for voice production smaller -> easier to control Why? Perhaps, because there is less tissue involved with lifted larynx? :thinking_face: 12.5: @6:50: Keep neck in neutral position (it automatically goes up), Imagine Sound going to the side instead of up 13. @7:09: Higher Tongue -> Less Resonance Space -> control easier, Adding twang (quack like voice quality? :D) also helps 14. @7:49: Smaller Resonance Space (see 12.&13) makes volume higher/voice louder 15. @8:55: Repeat exercise twice on same starting pitch, so first try shows its doable and second is more relaxed 16. @10:05: Letting your voice go: Voice getting very high means TA lets go and CT muscle takes over -> completely safe! 17. @10:22: Not sure I understood this correctly? Trying to keep voice under control with tension when it wants to be let go is NOT safe Yes, I just spend around 1-2h+ for this XD Yes I had a blast 😁 And yes I procrastinated work :/ :D Also learned: River can be a helicopter :D @5:10 River has crazy larynx control
I used to be a slightly above average singer, and a horrible songwriter lol, but in my years I have lost the control, range, and breath I once had. I have completely lost the ability to use my falsetto voice and my high whistle no longer exists. Honestly, I have lost the ability to sing at all if I am reluctantly honest. I couldn't even scream for help if my life depended on it. I miss singing a lot. But your videos are special. They bring me so much joy because I do still have a good ear and your analysis is always so spot on. Your ear is amazing. The ability you have to catch even the slightest details that 99% would miss and then explain exactly what is happening with the voice in such a simple and comprehensive way is just astonishing. Really! You are amazing, Lolli. Thank you for being you and sharing your gift with us. With so much love, Dale.
This conversation was probably very helpful for River' to develop and perfect his insane new vocal roll technique he showed on the GBB23 stage. Great video!
That vocal roll was game changer, but I think it was too late to release it. It was ultra high level, don’t get me wrong, but I think that 2 thing has VERY great POTENTIAL: 1) The Voice Roll: the technique something not known by many of us. The voice of a human has something special, I think that roll could’ve cause soooo many different types of impact on the listener, just that he showed it in a battle. Battles and Art are not the same thing (on it’s 100%) Think at the Codfish’s 2019 The Summit performance. He used his developoed vocal roll on a beatbox song that USED A CONCEPT. He leaded us to crazy mystical sh*t, with a (for me), written letter from Peter Pan. The transmission there was unbelievable. 2) The Concept Idea: I think this is not too present in music, and not understood by many of people in the beatbox community (if we focus on them). It’s really great, cool, interestint, meaningful, appreciated, ETC, when you bring a concept into your song. You think of creating something with a concept in? Ok. You Freestyle and you think your routine express an emotion in particular? A mood? An aspect of life? A game? A moment in history?? The future? Fun? Intrigue? Mystic?? Continue on this and make sur it will develop all that concept that you feel. I wrote all this because I think River’s Vocal Roll used on his routine “Where My Heart Belongs” was applied to a battle, while there are cryterias for your music on battles, you form them as to be accepted by people (crowd, juries, online fans, fans: RELATED TO BATTLE YOUR MUSIC WILL NOT BE FREE) so the real problem comes here. You cannot make the greatest music, give your 100% artistically speaking if you’re doing things for battles, things for someone, it needs to have freedom in there. I think the “Where My Heart Belongs” was a super special routine but taken in a a wrong way. If this would be made for a showcase in a river showcase, I personally thibk the result could’ve been different in a positive way (and for me, it will always be) I would like to read your comments on this, please be kind and respectful, just debate. - Zuzu
It's amazing to see what a simple little instruction like "move your finger from side to side" immediately changed River's desire to strain his neck to hit that high octave.
Fairy Voice Mother!!!! this simple interview/tutorial was SOOO effective for me. ive been beatboxing since early 90s and have been singing since late 2000s......i was never able to sing certain runs or even notation, until this video. i am now signed up for singing lessons!!!! thank you so much for sharing
I taught some classes (computer programming) in college as a TA, and the thing I lived for was seeing That Moment when they GOT what I was saying. I saw that light in his eyes several times when he totally got what you were teaching. Amazing to see.
OMGG I LITERALLY LEARNED SOOO MUCHHHH..I did NOT know that i could singggg.. i also did not know i could beat box like that!! this is the greatest video in all of youtube!
your student had SUPERB breath control and a really good ear! HIS student has a great deal of musical sense and asked the RIGHT questions! ANYBODY READING- you won't regret the on demand lessons! It's some of the best instruction I've EVER gotten and I hope to live long enough to actually meet Lolli in person some day (and thank her Mum for doing such a brilliant job!!!)👍
I'm 2 minutes in and impressed, that explanation with the 2 muscles working together and switching for the different voices changed my view so much, I always wanted to learn the show go double voice (switching between mixed voice and falsetto fast) but never really got a consistency in my switches, just some days I was more in the mixed voice and could hardly go back after switching to falsetto, but with this view I will definetly try to learn more vocal techniques and train these muscles the right way
My vocal range is very much lower than most women's -- think Bill Withers. Singing low notes feels so good and smooth, and even though I can sing high notes, I don't feel the control and fluidity there. I love your channel, and I double LOVE this series! Thinking of my voice as an instrument with components that I can move and adjust and play with has helped me so much. THANK YOU! ❤ Can't wait for more.
I think River was great person to start this series off with, someone at the top level of the beatboxing world, but also one of the better singers who uses a lot of vocal and singing techniques as well. I'm very much looking forward to many more lessons with you, Lolli!
On my way-ord! I can do sooo many noises with that donald duck vibration & know knowing to keep those breaths short & tight my kicks are soo good... amazing!! Much love ya'll... cant wait to see future lessons.
Remember when Helium somewhere explained in a comment that singing is fundamental if aspiring beatboxers want to get better as much as they can? Yes, that's so important. Like half of the sounds of beatboxing is made with the muscles activated when we sing (of course a lot of different techniques).
Hi Lolli! What helped me with the kick snare is understanding the air inside your mouth. When you can drop your jaw a bit and create more space, similar to different vowels in singing, it helps increase the resonance a lot! Love the videos!
I have been beatboxing like an amateur for quite some time and i always wanted to learn how to sing... and this is such a perfect mix of both learning experiences which makes me SO excited... and it's free... the dream is coming true, much love!!
Heelloo from Brazil! 🇧🇷 I'm so happy about this content, beatbox plus voice teaching and techniques It's like SO GOOD, so I can practice my beatbox, my voice control and my english too lol, thank you for that I really really excited, don't stop It!
I love the FBB23 poster 😊 that was my first irl event and I got to meet all these wonderful beatboxers. I'm sad I didn't realize you were there, tho I saw Stitch being interviewed!!
This is perfect, as an amateur beatboxer for 7 years, Im stuck with "just my style" and I wanted to improve my singing as well. This content is gonna help me in both ways and I cant wait to see it all ! Much love to my fav Voice teacher and my alltime fav beatboxer.
This video was amazing. Not only was it full of helpful tips and information but these two are very unique souls. Fun to see you guys interact. Plus beatboxer is awesome and River' is top tier.
Oh wow this is such a crazy good idea! Loved this ! I'm a professional singer and big beatbox enthusiast, and I learned a lot from that video! Cheers 🔥🔥
This was really perfect to put it well in my opinion... Both masters at their craft sharing it all intuitively making our experience great because it's all understandable since you're sharing unexplored worlds between eachother.... It's just something unique as it can be and exciting on a whole new level... I am in love with this concept....
This was so fun to watch. River clearly has so much ability and potential from training beatboxing and you did so well helping him tap into that! Loved hearing the explination of the muscle groups as well.
i love that you are collaborating with the beatbox community. you're are real asset to the community and it's super cool to also see you having fun discovering this artwork! I love it!
Just watching this series will give me so much more than the singing lessons I took once for some time! River only was able to learn so quick, because he had the control to do it all along, but needed the information only you could provide. You really are at the bleeding edge of your science/discipline!
River is amazing! as soon as he realised that the voice exercise would sound louder the higher he goes, he instinctively pulls the mic away for the high note. You can really see how used to live performances he is.
This was amazing lol i just told my brother about you and your amazing vocals cuz he was telling me he wanted to get his voice more bassier for more death metal growls cuz he is pretty good at high pitch black metal screeching and told him he should watch your videos ...of all the vocalists that cover anything throat, as a beatboxer you have the most clear best understanding of what the throat is doing and why and i appreciate the shit outta you
Do you know that feeling if something big happening? Well, it was a bit of that when TFVM started her 🧚 journey into beatbox and now it is like FASTEN YOUR SEATBELTS! 🚀
As beatboxing is growing into more musical, many from the beatbox community are not familiar these sorts of things! got to learn more about singing since I've always wanted and will have chance to learn from upcoming episodes Thank you for that !
I've always loved singing Led Zeppelin, Guns and roses, Iron Maiden etc despite having a quite low voice and I feel like i've learnt mixed voice instinctively but and when I tried those exercices it felt pretty easy. The crazy part is just after that I sang going to California from Led Zeppelin and it just felt so much better than anytime i've sung it before, this is a crazy good warmup exercice this series has so much potential.
I love your reactions as they are so knowledgeable and educational...so, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do Pentatonix's video of the cover of Seal's "Kiss From A Rose"....an absolute MASTER class in Acapella !!!!!!!!!
That was awesome Lolli, river it's one of my favorite beatboxers, since he was younger I new if he get more musical (he was more technical before) he would win a gbb one day, this year was the year, I'm very happy for him. Hope you guys can teach each other more and more.
I'm seeing Lolli beatboxing on GBB in the future with such a unique style! She has a very professional musical background from the world of singing, so she could do great things, a bit similar to what MB14 does in his Beatbox. PS, I think this type of content has a lot of potential! It is not only rich in learning for the Beatboxers who have sessions with her, but also for us. And it's great to think that the Beatbox comes from a very experimental and prototypical world of the voice, the moment those sound experiments match the vocal quality of a person like Lolli, the possibilities that the Beatbox has are enriched by 360°. to deliver. Without forgetting that beatbox without melody is noise.
So inspiring! It would be super helpful for us beatboxers to get more and more familiar with the anatomy of our voices, as well just making better music as a whole 🎶 I really appreciate you for putting this out there!
