Voge 300 Rally - BREAKDOWN - Too good to be true? 

Sorry about the audio quality, I'd left the wireless mic at home at didn't have time to get it. Just recorded on the phone.

You are by far the most down to earth motorcycle reviewer on the internet today , and trust me its a compliment these days

Well done Nathan. You're a breadth of fresh air compared to the naysayers at MCN!

You are one the few giving sensible advice for the average bloke. Well done.

Nathan, what a fantastic idea! If you are successful in setting up as a dealer, I think you couldn't ask, for a better person. You've tested the bike, beyond any normal level, you've proved it's worth. With your knowledge, experience and passion, I truely believe, you're onto a winner there mate! Add to this, your knowledge of suitable equipment and clothing?! What more could a customer with a (sensible) budget want?! I believe, that more of us, are looking at smaller to middle weight bikes now, due to costs, weight, in my case, old age! Riders are realising, you don't 'need' a GS or Super Adventure, you can do the same job on a smaller, cheaper, and above all, lighter bike! I really do, hope you're successful in getting this buisness up and running, we, as bikers, and an industry, need more people like yourself, who live in the 'real world', not just the high finance, high profit, high risk world that most companies live in. Best of luck, will be following closely, to see how you get on. Grumps.

Talking in a echo chamber, couldn't understand

The Loncin-Voge motor is copy of the Kawasaki Klx250/300 engine which is very reliable, (I have one that did 120K before needing a major rebuild). So no worries from a design point of view.

Enjoyed watching that trip Nathan, and refreshing to see that like me and alot of other motorcyclists you highlight the insanity of how crazy the motorcycle world is getting, these cheap bikes are the future,big smiles and going back to the days when riding bikes were just fun..keep it up dude..👍

Hey Nathan. It’s good to know that even the most experienced can be tripped up by something simple. I dropped mine and it would not start. I tried and tried for ages. Then suddenly realised that I had flipped the kill switch on the way down 🤣 Great to see your videos, especially about the Voge. I absolutely love mine. So agree with you about the overrated an overpriced adventure bikes. It’s goodbye Tiger 900 from me 👋

Glad it was just a plug cap, it certainly looks a nice bike

It’s better to ride an affordable bike everyday than keep a $$$$$$ bike in the garage because you don’t want to get it dirty.

It has been a pleasure watching you demo the VOGE,so much so I am going to purchase one instead of the CRF300,I feel if I was to spend the price difference on upgrades it would make a fantastic all purpose bike, so thank you for making my choice much easier.

Small issue. Sounds like a great little bike. I like it. The usual understated video, and understatement is rare nowadays. Nick J

I've followed these voge 300 reviews with interest and they are excellent. I went the Himalayan route early this year (from an ST1300 Pan European would you believe) and did so in no small part because of your reviews. Definitely not disappointed. I love the Himalayan but if I'd been looking now instead of 8 months ago i may well have gone the voge rally route instead. The luggage/load carrying ability of the Himalayan was a big factor for me and i guess the voge will always be a lighter luggage option in comparison. Although you did Spain ok so how much do we really need?

Seems to have a commonality with the Enfields then where you sort of have to finish building the bike for them? As long as the internals are done properly I guess it's not the end of the world. Will be very interesting seeing what price the 450 Himalayan comes out at compared with this machine though.

Well that's made my mind up. Thanks for the review. Voge it is.

Excuse me but I laughed until getting asphyxiated with aching ribs with the spark plug cap. Long time ago I had a similar "adventure" with a kill switch...I wish you the best for your projects.

Couldn't understand 90% of it

Do you speak English???

That bike sounds like it will be in high demand in the future. Nice one Nathan.

Fantastic on going review Nathan, I'm sure Motogb will do all they can to keep you on board, that must of been the cheapest advertising any company could get and so positive. Well done

Couldn't understand 75% of the words. Please improve the sound and speak English.

I’ve just read the MCN review of the 300 Rally. It bears no relationship to the bike I’ve just test ridden. None at all.

Very hard to understand what you say

That bike does look bloody amazing for the dosh. I think Honda are gonna have to either fix the crappy suspension on the 300L or just seriously lower the price to compete with Voge🤔I'm looking to maybe get a more capable TET bike to partner my 500x, maybe this bad boy is it😉love your vids Nathan👌

So glad you rate it so highly Nathan as I have just bought one! Great vids as always. Cheers.

Let's be honest here, you seriously caned that bike for 7000 miles

Amazes me how incredible your moto adventures/stories are with Dorothy and how down to earth you are in your vids that you don't have more subs and views either way keep doing what you're doing 👍 As in this video I rode my not so popular bike on my dream adventure and even thou its not the latest and greatest I had a great time as well. Wishing you lots more RU-vid success and more so great rides to come.

Got me worried then 😅hopefully picking mine up tomorrow from dealer or the weekend. Can't wait to get some miles on it.

Loved this trip/series Nathan and I have to say the Voge has surprised me. I think Honda have long corned that segment of the market so another competitor will be a good thing for sure. Same thing with the Kove 450 rally, also looks a bargain bike, although that I feel will be far too much bike for most, too heavy for what the average rider is doing on a weekend. Done a fair bit of racing over the last 2 years and at events like the Sweet Lamb Baja Rally the guys who seem to be having the most fun are the ones on the Himalayas, were as, all those with all the gear and no idea are just stressing over whether they spent enough money to enable themselves to compete. There are so many out there who' don't realise they'd have so much more fun riding a smaller bike but taking it to bigger and better places . I'm hoping to do a long trip with some friends down to Spain, thru Portugal and then back one way or another, and I can't help but feel in the back of my mind if I was on the Voge or the Kove I'd just have this little niggle in my mind about the 'what ifs'. Sure you can carry a few bits but obviously not everything, I'm gonna take either my CRF450L or T7 on that trip, and I know getting parts shouldn't be a problem if the worst should happen. So I guess that's what makes me wonder is the availability or what's the intercompatibilty of parts on the cheaper bikes - will you easily get fork seals or wheel bearings, brake pads etc. Time will tell on that I guess. Anyway, as ever I've waffled on too much. Thanks for this, I'm sure the Voge will soon have an enthusiastic bunch of followers, seems a good, cheap and reliable option. Regards, Mike

Great video, couldn't agree more about reasonable price bikes no less fun than a £15k bike. Last year my mountain bike was stolen it was cheaper to replace it with a Triumph speed four. £800 plus £150 on brakes, oil and filters and Mot. Not off road but a summers fun for not much money.

If you get a franchise and do little rideouts on them I would be happy to be your first customer. I was looking at one at a dealer when my Kawasaki was being serviced and I am very tempted. I don't really need a dual sport and was a poor off road rider on my last attempt 12 years ago. I got rid of my KTM EXC as it was a lot of upkeep, quite a bit of money tied up in a bike I didnt really use much. i have occasionally been tempted to give the greenlanes another bash but here in Kent it is all clay over chalk so muddy and slippery most of the year and dusty and slippery the rest. So byways, unpaved roads etc would be more my limit

Good honest review Nathan, Must admit if I get a problem on any motorcycle I always check/change spark plug and check leads etc. There again I am 67 years old and grew up with bikes that were no where as near reliable as they are now. Truthfully one of the most reliable bikes I ever owned and I have tried a few was a 1978 Triumph T140V Bonneville. air cooled on points, safe riding Nathan.

Glad it was nowt serious. like u said don't need a expensive fancy bike to have fun Nathan 😊

Appreciate your honesty about the bike - great advert. You’ve probably increased its saleability now.

Great video Nathan. Agree biking has got daft with the amount of coin involved now. Used to be if you couldn't afford a car you got a bike.

Remember as a young un, I'm 55 now, disconnecting the side stand switch on a honda XL 125, as it would get wet and cut the engine

The lesson is.....Nathan........don't buy a cheap Chinese bike. That 'let down' could have been on a Spanish trail with an owner less 'mechanically handy' as yourself. Don't sell 'em!!

Hi Nathan, thank you for the information you give from your video's they are great! You hage convinced me with the Voge! I have a quick question, with regards ro the Voge, if you need replacement parts, where would you purchase these from? This is whay has always worried me with Chinese Bikes. Thanks again, John

I have a 2000 Honda NX 650 Dominator, paid €2100 for it. Drove through the Balkins last year and from Sicily to poland this year. Buying a good old reliable machine still allows for a lot of "smiles per hour".

Have you read MCN's review of the Voge 300 Rally and Honda CRF 300 Rally? Seemed a bit bias towards the Honda compared to RU-vid reviews.

The rusting Chinese bikes bit... If people RALLY don't want to buy cheap or Chinese, any excuse will do & as you saw at the bike show, loads of middle aged men huddled around the GS1300 who will only off road once on such a bike, only to regret it after being squashed at least once 😂 Hope you appreciated the rally/really wording 😁

Great news that he`s running, a real success story. It does show that when people are shooting the bike down it is easy to assume it was a big problem. A great success story for the affordable little Voge!

You got me think about buying one!

Great review and Im happy that you are honest about Chinese bikes. It's time to respect them more! Our iPhones are also made is China, no one sees that as an issue from a quality perspective.

Anyone worried about corrosion, just give the bike a full treatment of ACF-50 when you get it and then once a year after that, give the exhaust a coat of high temp paint and you're good to go Or just methodically go over the bike and change the fasteners for SS ones

Best review on RU-vid❤❤❤

Corrosion, on a cheap bike, it's the same on the CRF300, exhaust looked like it's been in a swamp after a couple of rides, spokes starting to corrode at 6500 miles, and was the same on the T7 I had 🤦 I've stopped worrying about it, and just getting on and riding them. I've enjoyed your time with this one, and it's been an interesting "long term" (based on the miles you have covered) review, so thanks and keep the video's coming fella.

Another great video….I hope you become a dealer….I will be over! Completely agree that bikes are way too complex, way to heavy and way, way too expensive!

It's top value Nathan, a great little bike that stands up to the establishment but don't you have the nagging thought that this will kill what remains of the European M/C industry, or is already too late?

If I was in the market for a new bike I think this is where my money would be going. Thanks Nathan, as always, for a sensible, real-world test of a decent and exciting-looking bike. Les

Brilliant trip and definitely put that bike through its paces. Looks a damn good bike for the money 👍👍

Have you heard of GPX? Another Chinese made bike aiming at enduro/greenlaning.

The roads and the views are the same regardless of what bike you're on. As long as you can do 70mph all day if you're on a motorway that's all you need 🤣🤣

Hello good morning! Amazing ride! Can you please share the route?

Enjoyed watching the snippets Nathan..really hope to see some longer vids from the trip please? 🙏🏼…loving the smaller bikes. Went down from a 650 Versys to a g310gs and love it…way, way more fun to ride..plus, more manageable, cheaper to run, insure, tax etc…smaller cc is what it’s all about for me 👍

Great real world review. Ref the spark plug. Shit happens and obvious shit eludes us all.

Glad the bike didn't disappoint in the end! I've had issues with bikes before and it turned out to be the simplest thing. Now I tend to think, the easiest solution is generally the best.

Nathan - have you ever thought about selling your gpx files from your trips? I bet they’d be a lot of interest

Just shows what I thought to be true….don’t ever buy a bike based on MCN reviews. Their journalism is so incredibly biased I stopped buying the paper. Owner reviews are completely different to the nonsense they print…and not just about the Voge Rally. Thanks Nathan 👍

tough audio to make us listen to.

Brilliant!.

You had me worried there. I'll remember to check my plug cap. On the whole though seems like a very good bike judged by any criteria and made even better by the amazing value. Hope to join in on a trip next year 🤞

I’m so pleased to hear that! I’ve just come back from test riding a 300 Rally and I’m going to order one. It was even better to ride than I was expecting. I don’t think it will rack up 7000 miles quite as quickly as you’ve managed.

I once looked at a BMW GS but dismissed it due the corrosion on a 5500 mile bike.

I have said it before several times - I have never heard you talk anything but sense. The Voge has come out of this very well, like a boxer who get knocked down in the last round and gets back up.

Sadly, I think a lot of people who’ve spent a lot on top brand large capacity bikes really can struggle with the idea that there is a bike out there that is performing anywhere as near as the one that they’ve spent double the cost on…. I’ve had so many comments over the years on cycles and climbing gears, cars where mine has performed just as good, but not perceived a good brand. Thank you for your earthy straightforward speak and honestly that’s all we need . Cheers John

Nice one for that. Seriously considering one of these

Sorry, asking a stupid question...but.....was the bike serviced at 5000 miles by an authorised 'VOGE' Dealer as per the Official (published) Maintenance Schedule ? Thank you.

Not checking plug cap rookie mistake there 😂

Great , honest review , wouldn't mind a voge to replace my himmy .

It's Chinese, what do you expect?

I love affordable, simple, reliable bikes.

Great review of what is obviously a cracking little bike, definitely proves you don’t have to spend a fortune on a bike to have fun, something you have been doing for years 👍 all the best for your future plans

Nathan do you ever go ot the corner house in Barnstaple on a saturday night?

I would say your sound is very low. My speakers are on 100% but i understand barely

What an amazing trip, thanks for sharing these amazing roads and views, all the best Mark The voge did well 👍

If its survived 7000 miles with you, cant be bad. Even the wee Honda 125s are corroding over a single winter. Jobs a goodun.

HAHAHA That's awesome 🤣 I must admit my heart was in my mouth there for a minute but I knew she wouldn't let you down 😮‍💨🤣 I think it is a bit of a Unicorn. If they let you keep one, you need to change the gearing one end or the other as I think it will impress you even more.

Now say you're sorry to it & give it a service...

I do wonder how they can make it so cheap and how long it will last.

What an experience. But it shows that the engine (like the Kawasaki) rattles a bit more the the Honda CRF 300. I do like your honest opinion, so useful. Might displace my old Translap 600, because I want something lighter and more exciting. Maybe the Kobe 450 Rally, when we get it with Euro 5 on the continent. Günter/Nürnberg

Saw you pushing it southbound M5 just short if the junction. Sorry mate but we were northbound so couldn’t help.

To bad they don't sell them here in the US.

Nice to see the brand getting some love. I had the Voge 500DSX and did 10,000 miles on it. Such a nice bike and good cheap fun. With the 300 I don't know who Voge/MotoGB have pee'd off but Ride and MCN are slamming this bike in their reviews... of course in the same copy the £27k Multi V4S Rally is award winning 😉😉😁😁

Are spare parts available?

🤣 brilliant

Its been great watching the ‘dailys’ on that trip, as I’ve been looking to get the Voge or Himalayan for some small trips and RallyMoto events… I sat on the Voge in one of the dealers the other day, and the seat felt a bit boxy on the inner thigh! How’ve you found that seat on the trips, did it bed in?

Interesting review, have been holding out for the himi 450, but this looks like a great alternative as lead times have been getting pushed back for ages

One careful owner 🤣

Bro, what kind of accent do you have?) For me as a non native speaker many parts were pretty hard for understanding)

😁😁😁😁😁😁🤛

Hi Nathan, good to hear your words of wisdom in these short videos. Not sure how long they are in production from thought, filming and editing but the format is great and informative. Perhaps the Voge importer was brave to let you loose with the bike but you've torture tested it beyond what the average bike would do and its been a success. Like the logic in not having to buy the most expensive bike and the fanciest of kit to have an adventure. Spain looks like a sensible place to go, you know you've gone foreign, got trails and adventure as good as anywhere, but if something went wrong it can be sorted easily.

Hi @nathanthepostman. Can you pls just say a few words about what exactly was the problem or why it was broken down after voge opened up the engine? Was it a capital damage or just easy and low cost to fix? Because 7000 miles is by far not really a long durability...it would really help me in my decision wheter to take the honda crf 300 or the voge. I think with the honda you can drive easily about 50k Kilometers without engine problems or big failures. Thanks a lot and greetings from germany.!!

I went to Preston kawasaki 3 weeks ago to look at some bikes being road trial bikes honda and kawasaki, l saw one of these voge 300cc rallys and loved the style build quality and was also impressed by what the sales guys told me about the bike and the reviews that voge make and supply engines and parts to other leading motorcycle companies, honda apparently don't make their own bikes now.... they look cheap and nasty, anyway this voge Rally 300 is a great buy for £3,799 you get loads for your money and extras lovely tail tidy standard, handle bar protectors, engine protector bars, ABS that you can turn off, a lovely looking machine, so l bought one from Bolton motorbikes and got a better deal than from Preston as they wanted £4,100, l paid £3,799 with free 12 months road tax, £50 delivery to my house in Blackpool. The bike is great fun to ride and loads for the money. So please go check the bikes out l highly recommend Bolton motorcycles ask for bob also a great guy too.

Would it be possible to use a microphone attached to the shirt? The audio is not optimal. Many thanks.

Agree with the overpriced hobby comment. Ridiculous the price of some of these bikes. I'm in the market now - If the Voge 650 DSX had 10 more HP i'd buy it. Had a year on a Zontes G1 125 - fantastic bike.

Whip them corroded bolts out and replace with titanium, preferably, or stainless steel.job done🤣..no more corrosion. Brill reviews on this machine and im considering replacing my Ducati Scrambler with one of these thanks to your appraisals and fantastic trips! Respect!!

the main problem is there resale value, cheap to buy but hard to sell on, in fact some dealers will not even make an offer

Thanks for sharing Nathan, best of British luck with the new venture, just watched with my dad an we both agree about more expensive bikes, far to much tech, which leads to expensive service costs, an hekkin expensive parts costs when stuff goes wrong especially with the premium brands, speaking from recent experience. I'm lucky that i can spanner on bikes myself which keeps the cost down to just parts. Keep up the brilliant video's 👏