Voice Teacher Reacts and Analyzes: Jinjer - Pisces 

"this is not your typical pop song" - Hahahahahaha!

I've been watching reactions to this video for over a year now, and, it has yet to stop being entertaining.

"That's a killer belt!" My favorite part of every reaction is the acknowledgement of that "3rd" voice :)

After watching like 20 reactions to this song, you're the first one who caught the time signature variation throughout the song. Big props

"I'm sure the fan base will show up below." You have NO idea.

“So ... I did not see that coming ... at all.” No one does. That’s why we love recommending it to people who do these reactions.

This is everyones favorite for introducing people to Tatiana.....lol.....and she can really pull you in. They are really a tight band when it comes to their music.

You have just scratched the surface of what Tatiana, the lead singer, can do. I strongly recommend her very recently released Judgement and Punishment - One take vocal video. It's an excellent song to analyze and react to her amazing vocal abilities.

I always love the "how is she getting so low", then I think, you really should hear "Who is going to be the one" for low!

HAHAHA, YOU'VE BEEN JINJER ROLLED!!! (I wonder why no one has thought of this before) : )

Nothing like being set up by a friend LOL

The difference in sounds you're describing with how low and round her sound is, is because she's using false cord growling. It's very different than fry screaming. Both are super common techniques in heavy music. With fry you have to essentially push the air through the vocal folds while they're clamped shut, resulting in a more strained sound. With false cord you are keeping your vocal cords completely open so they don't touch at all. That's why false cord (what she is using here) sounds so round and full and un-feminine, even when high pitched, because it's got very little vocal noise unless it's a conscious decision to use your vocal cords underneath. That's why it's also super easy to switch back and forth between false cord and singing because the vocal cords don't get tired. Just some harsh vocal theory for you in case you're interested :)

As a semi-pro Pisces reaction viewer, I always give a thumbs up and a supportive comment for the Tubes. Jinjer and Tatiana are the real deal. Time to dive deeper into the song catalog.

Fun reaction - subbed. The live recording session was actually for their new (in 2017) drummer, most of the vocals are off the album version of the song. That said, I've seen them twice in concert and they are at least as good on stage if not better. It seems like they give 100% in the studio, but 110% on stage for the fans. I'd recommend Judgement & Punishment one-take vocal performance which seems totally raw with even a minor error left in. Perennial live at the Wacken open air festival is also an epic performance but with a bit of post-production tweaking to add some subtle vocal layers that aren't in the bootlegs of the show. Tatiana always loved singing and says she sings almost constantly. She had a few months of lessons in school, but never had the discipline or drive to do anything with her talent until she was 15 and someone introduced her to the music of Otep. She was shocked to learn Otep Shamaya is a woman, and had an intuition that she could shock people like that. She started singing cleans in various bands to build her clean singing foundation when she was 15. Then she started practicing growls at 18, while continuing to do clean singing in a number of bands for another 4 years (Jinjer is her 8th band), before starting to perform with growls in the band she joined shortly before being recruited to join Jinjer. This is just a bit lower than her most comfortable growling range, and she can go significantly lower than this. I'd suggest checking out Pit Of Consciousness live in Kiev at some point to see how low she can go. Kudos for pointing out the skills of the rest of the band. They are all superb musicians. Only Vlad has formal training in music, and he has played a big role in their composition process on the Micro EP and Macro album that they came out with after he joined. Eugene is one of the best bass players in metal, and is also their manager, as well as being a competitive amateur Jujuitsu practitioner who took silver in the Abu Dhabi qualifying tournament in Kiev last year. Roman on guitars is the least flashy, but he is a seemingly endless fount of diverse riffs that are a key aspect of Jinjer's sound. Cheers!

Welcome to the rabbit hole of Jinjer, as everyone will tell you it is an amazing ride.

Great reaction. The reason that Tatiana's growls/screams don't have a pitch is because they are voiceless screams. That's also why they don't damage her voice at all. At the low end she's using false cord screams which are done with the vocal folds open and utilize the false vocal folds. Because the vocal folds remain open, false cord screaming usually has a very dark timbre and low sound. Higher up, she uses fry screams which are done with the vocal cords held together under significant compression (but not producing tones) such a that only a narrow stream of air passes through them and up to the false folds and the soft palate, rattling them to produce the sound. Fry screams can be identified by presence of harmonic overtones and a much brighter sound. Floor Jansen of Nightwish can false cord scream as well (Nightwish - Yours is an Empty Hope live Wembley for an exampe) and Devin Townsend is a great and well known fry screamer (Devin Townsend - Kingdom for EMGtv is a good intro to him).

Hi! I suggest you Jinjer - Perennial (live at Wacken Open Air 2019). It's incredible!!

Mike's reaction to Jinjer - Pisces is epic. He was so flabbergasted that he basically completely lost it. If you have not watched him on this video, his reaction is worth it for sure. I bet these reactions are fun for all of you in the profession. You thought you had heard it all. Well....

If you’d like to get an idea of Tatiana’s versatility, react to Jinjer’s song “Teacher, Teacher. Epic

Gotta love the algorithm. After a year of searching on Jinjer reactions daily, I'm still getting ones that are years old. This is a really good one. I love it when knowledgeable musicians have their minds blown by Tatiana and the gang! And you're catching the groove. It's awesome how throughout all those time changes, it grooves hard. The meter changes aren't done for the sake of being weird, like in math rock. They serve the song and augment the expression. It took me a while to figure out that chorus. For a while I thought of it as one long measure of 20. Then I realized 20 is divisible by 4. And sure as hell, it's in 4. It's the craziest 4 I've ever heard. But it's in 4. Rock on, Jinjer Army!

Jinjer is from Ukraine and were formed in 2009. Every member is an exceptional musician. They are Vlad on drums, Eugene on bass, Roman on guitar, and Tatiana on vocals. Interesting that you pointed out the drummer. This video was done a few years ago and Vlad had just joined the band. This song was on their album recorded before he joined but they loved what he did with it that the decided to do the video to feature their new drummer.

You're a voice teacher but more importantly ... you appreciate and enjoy music ... you can see it in your reactions ... the laughing and excitement, it's there, and it's real #respect

Great reaction. Just finished watching Mike's reaction to Devin Townsend. I think his jaw is still on the desk. Speak to him about it. Brilliant

Awesome reaction! Next step should be Devin Townsend "Kingdom" for EMGTV

Metal vocalist here, came to the comments to talk about false chord growling but got beat to the punch by ViktoriaVision lol. There is a bit more to false chord growling as far as technique goes, good breath support is very important as is placement in order to do it without hurting yourself; I did see that you caught that she's lowering her larynx as part of this. Been enjoying the reactions man, if you'd like a good example of a male vocalist doing both singing and growling of this type, I'd like to suggest the band Opeth - Harlequin Forest Live at the Royal Albert Hall

Nice reaction! You should check out Perennial live at Wacken, to see how amazing Jinjer is in concert.

Hahaha, of course you know Mike! Been following him for a while now. It never gets old, the first reaction to Tatiana. She recently released a play through of Judgement And Punishment which is remarkable. Also Teacher Teacher and I Speak Astronomy are a must. Tati was singing jazz before she got into growling, which is part of what makes her so awesome I think.

been watching these for a while, but i think you're the first to also note timings and the work of the rest of the band

Tatiana can get lower than that. Perennial live at Wacken and Judgement & Punishment one take are more recent examples of her vocals.

YT Vocal coach: She has a nice voice, kinda poppy Jinjer fans: Wait for it......... YT VC: 😲😲😲😵😵😵 Jinjer fans: Thank you Tatiana!

Watching reactions of this song is my new hobby, since today, though your the first channel that got to subscribe during the watching. Your explanations are great. :D

You're awesome man, great reaction. If you wanna check out more Jinjer- Perennial live is really good. Also 2 songs I love the videos too- I Speak Astronomy and Retrospection. Also if you haven't done any Tool the song Sober live '93 is always a reaction hit to start.

Now you have to check out Perennial live at Wacken and the recently released one take recording of Judgement and Punishment.

Tremendous reaction man, love the insight

Love the background on your set!

So glad Mike turned you onto this one. Mike's reactions are fantastic and his enthusiasm is unreal. You bring a similar joy and exuberance into listening. Thank you. Cheers

These reactions never get old. Please check more of them!!

One of the best reactions I’ve seen from vocal teachers.

I just watched you on a compilation reacting to this video and had to come watch the whole thing as you were my favorite reactor 🥰

I love your reactions, John... Watching your head explode when something awesome happens is why I keep coming back...

Seen dozens of reactions to this song... you are one of the nicest 😄👍

Hehe! I always love your analyses but this time your reaction was exceptional hilarious too! I saw Jinjer live last year and IMHO they are absolute top notch live, in musicality and in energy on stage! One little fact to give your another little shock: Tatiana had never a vocal coach or singing lessons except a few when she was around 8 and got fast bored by this. So welcome to the next fantastic rabbit hole ! 😁😁

I am so glad you were digging that along with all of us. I love her, and watching you rock out with it and enjoy the surprise was really fun.

I learn a lot watching John reacting and breking down the techniques

Now this is one of my favorite reaction videos! He is getting so close to my own thoughts, especially concerning those unbelievable energetic belting part.

Good job. The enthusiasm and joy in your body language and voice are infectious.

I've watched an embarrassingly large number of Pisces reaction videos and yours was one of the most genuine and enjoyable to watch.

Omg I looooove your reaction to Jinjer! More please? Thank you!

I lost track of how many reactions to this song I‘ve seen so far - but yours is one of the best!

Dude, you are such a genuine guy - love your style and your attitude ! And you clearly know a lot about vocals and music!

One of the best reactions and analyses I've seen. The way you break down how she's doing the screams you CLEARLY know your technical stuff sir! Most voice teachers I've seen reacting to it are just clueless when it comes to these types of vocals. Glad you picked up and commented on the time changes, the rest of the band, and especially the drummer as I've heard they made this video to showcase him when he joined the band. I do hope you look more into them as while this song is a great introduction to Jinjer, it only scratches the surface of what they're capable of, especially Tatiana.

I love your reaction. Enthusiasm and intellect combined. I'd imagine you are an amazing teacher

Watching people react to this sound is one of my favorite past-times. As a former band nerd/kind of choir singer, I love how you react and describe everything! Tatiana's voice is amazing. This video is awesome. The timing...is impeccable. I love it all!

John you are so cool I love how you go in to the videos, enjoying all types of music that's says a lot. You are the best you make my day every single time, thanks.

Love it, I never tire of these reactions haha

She's amazing

Both you and Mike have very honest and fun reactions. Thank you for including discussion on metre and the technical skill of the rest of the band. It often goes overlooked when people see and hear Tatiana for the first time. I've been a fan of Jinjer since their first album and seen them live 3 times. They do not disappoint! 🤘😁

This is the best reaction so far for this song/band. Wonderful that you didn’t question her being capable of doing the metal screaming. ❤️

Fantastic reaction! I love it when I see someone react to this video who understands how technically talented Tatiana really is vocally and how great the band is!

So nice! Everything in this man says that he is happy only because such a singer exists! His voice, intonations, body language, face language, gestures... and of course the analysis itself shows that he is a wonderful teacher! Bravo! And Tatyana, of course - super!

Great reaction John, well done m8.....

John - We got Mike with it, so he's paying it forward! Did you know Floor Jansen from Nightwish can growl too? Try "Nightwish - Yours Is An Empty Hope - live from Wembley 2015". 🤘

Tatiana is a metal goddess. She is a vocal beast. She will devour you. I am glad you mentioned the band, they are super talented and the guitars and drums get over looked, they are amazing.

What an amazing reaction!!!!

Nice reaction, one can’t help being mindblown when hearing/seeing this for the first time.

gosh she is amazing

Really appreciate that you noticed and discussed their use of different time signatures. Maybe only one other reaction-er/reviewer has toughed on that. I'm still a music noobie but was noticing something about it and was having a challenge nailing down what it was.

Tatiana is so amazing... Jinjer as a whole is freaking amazing. 😍 I never get tired of watching reactions to this song. My favorite song of theirs is "Just Another"

i love how you and Mike pointed out the drummer, his shades is just brutal , amazing drummer work. Great to see the recognition :)

That song is spine-tingling soft harmony.

This is the absolutely best reaction, you know the timestamps and seems to me that you're familiar with how to produce different vocals, growl, headnotes etc. Great job!

Great reaction, I'm gonna suggest checking out the live one take of judgement and punishment or the Perennial live at Wacken performance next.

I love watching someone that truly appreciates the ability of this band and Tatiana. Even if this is not your genre of music, there is no denying how fantastic this is.

So glad you were able to get this one. Please consider Perennial live or her latest RU-vid offering judgment and punishment one take. Thanks.

Anytime I see a new one of these I have to watch it, even if I was planning on calling it a night beforehand

The whole band is absolutely brilliant.❤️❤️❤️

Great reaction!

Great reaction. Cool insights. Thanks! Also, being a drummer I like your comments on him. I’m a sucker for ghost notes. He really brought this home.

I love you reacting to this your in my top 5 just not sure how or where that fits

Every now and then I go a month or so without watching a Jinjer - Pisces react video.. but RU-vid keeps pulling me back in. Good stuff.

One of the best reactions of that song I`ve ever seen. You nailed it! Eh...., O.K. of cause, SHE has nailed it before and her band! Very nice experience, indeed! 😊

It's my new hobby watching jinjer reactions... It's just too good

Great channel, just bought the book on kindle!

Cheers man ) Now you have a lot of great Jinjer vids to choose from to review and have a lot of fun )

Damn John, you seem such a lovely guy to hang out with. :D And a good teacher too! It was nice to see you have so much fun watching this. Waiting for more great content.

FINALLY! The video I was looking for. Yeah, the vocals are bonkers, but I wanted to know what was going on with the meter - and look who picked up on THAT aspect of the song! Not the drummer guy I listed to, but John Henny, Vocal Coach. One of my favorite videos on youtube is your first time listening to Jacob Collier, and I love it because you reminded me what music appreciation is all about. And look who's doing it on this recording!

Truly phenomenal band! Tatiana is amazingly talented. I love judgement and punishment one take!

Jinjer judgments and punishments 1 take vid. Its a must watch

I loved your reaction buddy! Argentina present here. Thanks!!

Good professional reaction. Welcome to Jinjer planet. Though Pisces is a nice place to start, you will have to explore much more. Both the band and Tatiana really deserve it.

IMHO this is the best react to this performance :)

Great reaction! Keep going, Jinjer are a gift that keep on giving, Haha!

Tati is amazing. Check out the 1 take of Judgement and Punishment from a few weeks ago. Have seen them in person twice, her and the band deliver.

I hope you really liked it and make some more Jinjer reactions!! Perennial live at Wakken 2019. I think it's the best to go on if you wish 🔥🤘

I see you've met our queen.

The band and her flawlessly switching between that soft sound into the harder sound is just amazing

You should check out more women singing guttural tones like that. I recommend one of the entrepreneurs of women in this genre. Angela Gossow with Arch Enemy singing 'Bloodstained Cross' Official video, or 'Nemesis' Live in Japan 2008. (Floor Jansen from Nightwish can also sing guttural)

Just the amount of energy she brings is incredible. If you watch her live performance of Perennial at Wacken, its the last song of the set and she still has intense energy throughout the song.

also great reaction. and analysis.

The whole band is great ...glad to see them get kudos too ..great reaction ..looking forward to see you react to more Jinjer ....Maybe, Perennial Live @ Wacken 2019 ..to see them in a live environment