00:00 - Intro 02:55 - Meet Jerry Parries, Pete Alwinson, Matt Heard, and Justin Holcomb 03:57 - Together in-person for the first time ever... 08:26 - Why Justin is hopeful for the church, especially globally 13:54 - How Pete transitioned from senior pastor to leading @ForgeTruth 15:20 - Justin and his 'MLM' 15:48 - Worship - Teaching - Fellowship 16:46 - Matt Heard's perspective on the church 19:03 - Jerry Parries experience during the lockdown 22:55 - Justin on 'The Great Dechurching' 26:15 - Orthodoxy AND Vibrancy 29:28 - Jerry on the danger of pastors mixing their opinions into the Gospel 31:46 - Pete on the power of men understanding God's love 34:13 - The guys' advice to young people entering the ministry 37:38 - Closing thoughts from Jerry, Pete, Matt, and Justin 40:38 - Next week's guest is...