Volkswagen Golf R | evo Hot Lap 

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100% agree with your comment!

Type R and Megane RS get way more tyre patch contact through the front tyres cornering from their double axis suspension. Golf cheaps out on standard macpherson struts and the mechanical grip is just not there.

@@minimumtrade golf's R drivers best skill is puting the car in launch control mode... so, basically the difference between a driver and a poser.

Much respect 🙏 well said I've owned 3 golf r mk4 mk6 and mk7 and back in iran we used to drive stick Renaults and Fiats and many bmw and rape them basically. That was fun However back in 2004 I got an audi tts v6 back then with the very first generation of the DSG gear paddle shift style. And that car was so fast and dangerous that only the DSG would be possible to do the same thing we used to do with stick. Anyway I think today date I trust the technology specially from volkswagen group cars. Another factor specifically with my mk7 golf r was that animal would surprise me everywhere no matter who the other car was. It's like it has ears 👂 and hears who is messing with it and based on the situation it would fly. All it needed was simple satege 1 tune with pops and bangs to even surprise me 3 years after I got it new and drove it stock. As soon as tuned it it became an ausi R8 Killer . 60mph to 160mph in literally 5 seconds sometimes with full boost ready

The tyres are quite good actually. Just not for track driving

@@XDG_97X Well that's the point, they're shitty for a track. Civic on the other hand had pretty much the best there are unless you get into semi-slicks.

@@derbigpr500 the auto gearbox makes up for more time than the tyres

@@tracktimevideos5164 and the AWD

@@DJAtienza AWD gives better traction but also much more drivetrain losses. 2wd is quicker.

Same here, not interested in the civic is looks shite, and for what these cars get used for in real life scenarios the golf R or even GTI is miles above that shitty civic

@@VidNibs Considering the Civic is like 2 generations behind Golf in most areas, no, it won't decimate anything. Not to mention a new Golf is coming as soon as the new Type R anyway. The only thing Japanese do as well is chase lap times, and that's because they're actually focusing on that and sacrificing other areas of the car. The Golf doesn't sacrifice anything. It's pretty much as fast on track, or faster with the right tires, than the Civic Type R, and MUCH, MUCH better on the road. This car is still infinitely more capable on the road than the Civic Type R, it's gonna outpace the Civic on any surface, dry or wet, hot or cold, no matter how bumpy, and it's gonna be safer and more stable while doing it. Not to mention it rides WAAAAAAY better than the ultra-hard and harsh Civic, in fact, the GTI and R are more refined, quiet and comfortable than the regular Civic, let alone the Type R. Honda doesn't even come close to sitting on high speeds as comfortably and drama-free as the Golf. Type R basically goes all out to chase lap times and sacrifices a lot for it. Golf R doesn't sacrifice anything in any area, it's perfectly balanced and does all things equally well, and that's what makes it overall the better car. If you spend most of the time on track, get the Civic, for anything and everything else, get the Golf.

@@easyerc2226 people who don't understand driving are mostly interested in a car that does the driving for them.. like the R.. or like all the electrics. People who understand driving, can comprehend the difference in car set-up. Not saying the R is a bad car; I'm just saying that it attracts mostly shitty drivers with basically no skill beside activating launch control mode..and that's what is sad about it. To make an analogy, why sleep with a woman when you have your own hand?!, that's exactly what the R is, compared with a real driver's car. Plus that, from a fvecking 34-37k car, now it is over 50k. At 35k it was a great car. At 50k, its overrated af!

@@derbigpr500 stop, you speak like you do not know anything about them. It makes you look like you only *drove* public transport until yesterday...or you are simply a child. Let me tell you that the new generation of performance golf, seat, skoda, etc are much much weaker then the previous ones. The cupra formentor and the golf have a terrible unfunctional interior ergonomy and the driving is so numb you feel more by taking a fvecking public bus(I exagerate of course but the feeling is missing from the experience) ; driving any of them is like driving a joystick on a PlayStation.. as fake as possible. Fast car indeed but very little feel. You feel disconected from the driving part.. it is like on a simulator. So, if your pride and enjoyement is to let a computer launch the car fast at the stop lights, then, it is the perfect car for you. If you look for driving enjoyement and driving involvement, then it is not; and it is also 15k more expensive than it should. VW nedeed to get those money to develop electrics from somewhere.(the main reason for which this 8th gen feels less rezolved and cheaper in feel and quality) edit. civic type r limited edition is an equally dumb and overrated. much stiffer, no AC, 10k extra.. it is a car for journalists to bla-bla about it on tracks but not a real option outside one.

@@eugenux "pEoPle wHo uNdErStAnD dRiVinG..." my god, what an arrogant and ignorant comment. Guess what, I drive a GT350, which is just about as analog as you could get in a modern-day car. And I'll be getting a Golf R. Believe it or not, there's more to car buying than strictly focusing on driver-centric qualities.

Thought the same as well. It may seemed that he pushed the car, but his lines were crappy and all over the place.

Exactly. For him to even get a worse time on the M2 Comp than the CTR Limited Edition just shows his bias, because we all know a CTR doesn't compare to a M2 Comp...

@@emiliospowerballer1441 He's a former racing driving! Perhaps the problem wasn't the driver but the car. The Golf R is fast in a straight line but the chassis/handling isn't great.

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It's truly incredible that they made it that way and nobody in the entire development phase decided to do something about it. I'm pretty sure it will put off many many buyers.

The Auto box makes even more of a difference

Agree 100%! But both are great cars.

@@bokiNYC In everyday life I dont agree with a Type R being a great car. On the track its a very good car though

Rofl. Understeer is not a feature of an engaging drivers car.

Found the 'special' person that enjoys understeer, what clueless clown.

Yes I feel like there were a lot of mistakes made and some very awkward lines taken on that lap as well as some early braking. Not sure if its representative of what the car is truly capable of. I dought its only a couple of tenths quicker than the mk7 clubsport as shown at the end of the video.

Well it did have the massive advantage of the auto gearbox over many things

Why would they ruin the car in order to gain an insignificant lap time difference on a hypothetical track? Not to mention that literally just putting better tires (as good as on the Civic) will make it faster on track than the Civic. This car is still infinitely more capable on the road than the Civic Type R, it's gonna outpace the Civic on any surface, dry or wet, hot or cold, no matter how bumpy, and it's gonna be safer and more stable while doing it. Not to mention it rides WAAAAAAY better than the ultra-hard and harsh Civic, in fact, the GTI and R are more refined, quiet and comfortable than the regular Civic, let alone the Type R. Honda doesn't even come close to sitting on high speeds as comfortably and drama-free as the Golf. Type R basically goes all out to chase lap times and sacrifices a lot for it. Golf R doesn't sacrifice anything in any area, it's perfectly balanced and does all things equally well, and that's what makes it overall the better car. If you spend most of the time track, get the Civic, for anything and everything else, get the Golf.

@@derbigpr500 sorry I lost the will to live half way through your college book essay. What utter horse shit. Two hugely different market sectors, two totally opposing customer audiences and a totally pointless comparison given the aforementioned and the Target audience 😀

​@@derbigpr500 Ok now write another essay about how more camber and better tires make it worse in ANY way, let alone ruin the car like you say? What a smartass. Smh Oh and the rest of the sh*t that you said, I never even mentioned any of that. But thanks for writing a review for free. What a guy..

@@neilmilner7074 Thats why you will always be lacking in knowledge. There did I keep it short enough for you kid.

@@vroomgc and your point being exactly" Kid" I've worked with VAG group for a total of 24 years, firstly with VW and then Audi as a centre R8 Ambassador.. Been on more trips to view and test new tech and newly launched models than you can think of. So, to put you straight you patronising and slightly vulgar individual, I'm pretty well informed as it goes, and my track record with the Brands is a very consistent and hugely successful one. Run along now I think it must be time for your children's TV programmes to begin, I'm sure if you're a good little chap mummy will let you watch the Stig"s hot lap on Top Gear repeats on Dave

Exactly. All these expert armchair racecar drivers saying it looked crappy, when they aren't driving it.

quite hard to get understeer when the car drifts itself haha

It is true that the 8R suffers alot of understeer , but a fast road geo-setup and a better tyre does miracles to help mitigate that... My friend has done a fast road alignment on his , toyor888 tyres , and a set of kw clubsport coilovers, it really transformed the car on track ! He shaved almost 1.2 seconds of his laptime on a pretty technical 4.4 km track ... Grtz

With a trailer on aswell judging by how much it washes out

@@jameshogg601 blame the hankooks

That was a demonstration of the display settings from the B-roll and not the actual setting for the hot lap. The magic of filming and editing ... 😉

@@Fastvoice how do you know? Other than this shot, we have no idea which setting he was using.

@@HotHatchTV I know because he says at 2:14 which setting he uses for the hot lap: "TC and stability systems switched off." Unless he blatantly lies ... 😉

@@Fastvoice TC and stability systems switches off is something completely different than the drive profiles. He talks about the Nürburgring chassis settings, which leaves the suspension in comfort mode, while race makes it stiffer and you can go even higher than race.

@@HotHatchTV ... and you really think he used a wrong setting for his lap? Because he has no clue - in contrast to you? 😁

Rear wheel torque vectoring doing its magic

BTW, there was an Auto express test done by Steve with the Type R sportline The FOCUS ST and Cupra laon, wasn't it the exact same circuit? The Type R sportline laped it by half a second faster than the LE EVO lap time

Steve was going in a little hot, perhaps. And to be fair, it’s not a track car, never was. It’s a grown up hot hatch that you won’t be embarrassed to drive.

True but the CTR is dog ugly

imagine being brand loyal

@@Keckegenkai indeed, sucks to be stuck with one brand.

@@tracktimevideos5164 Do you reckon! See I think it looks fantastic but different tastes I guess

In case you've been living under a rock, there's a chip shortage right now limiting the production of all cars. VW literally can't build the mk8s fast enough to meet demand, hence the huge markups right now. Dealers in the US are asking $50k for GTIs and $60k for Golf Rs.

@@headcoatee If they didn’t insist on so many touchscreens, they wouldn’t need so many chips! And I’ve seen plenty of standard mk8 golfs and even more ID3’s

@@jamesstanley7263 The average new car uses around 140 semiconductors, it has nothing to do with the touch screens. VW are favouring electric and hybrid models to bring their global emissions down.

@@headcoatee Exactly. Also, dealers were practically giving the mk7 golf Rs away on finance (in the UK)!

@@ihavenousername1805 My point exactly! If they are not being given away ridiculously cheaply, nobody wants one. Golf R is all about spec sheet figures. But for £50k, your next door neighbour (who couldn’t care less about cars) can own a Tesla model 3 with significantly better performance. Golf R was a one trick pony that is now pointless

The Clubsport S is on the timing list in the video - 2/10th slower. 😉

@@Fastvoice exactly..but I said the GTI Clubsport, meaning the golf 8 Gti Clubsport and not the mark 7 Clubsport S…😉

@@mercedakiask4359 The former (7) model was also named GTI Clubsport here in Germany so I couldn't know what you meant.

@@Fastvoice I live in Germany too. The thing is that in the video we see the mark 8 Golf R…and the second is that you said Clubsport S not Clubsport and the S was only by mark 7. anyway… egal 😐

@@mercedakiask4359 Ah - okay, I didn't take the missing "S" in your post into account. 😉

Thats why they made the golf for people like you.

It turns out most people want 5 doors which is why most manufacturers no longer do a 3door option.

His lap was a disaster. Weird lines taken, missed apexes, not in the right gear…

@@grg88888 exactly my thoughts Greg

Except in the wet or damp conditions