Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT A heat pump is offered in Europe but not in American models. Alex is discussing models sold here in North America. (Obviously!) I won't bother addressing the rest of your insane rant. Screaming in all upper case letters is rude and completely nullifies any credibility you might have.
@@BUNKERPT and here i am thinking hes biased towards the VEW :OP 100% sure the Mustang will travel further in real life than the VW. Plus what he failed to mention about the VW is the horrible amounts of plastic on the VW.
This was probably your best video. Not just the added benefit of it being a comparison but the more frequent edits and camera angels made it much more enjoyable. The effort was noticed and appreciated
Alex is the best reviewer for actual car shoppers. Great real-life comparisons on actual practical matters. Must watch for buyers. This a great video for folks considering either of these vehicles.
No mention of the fact the US version has lots of missing features from the European version, including less paint options, no 3D HUD, no heat pump, no Matrix LEDs, no 3D matrix rear lights. As an aside those pointless ugly orange reflector strips on the wheel arches North American markets insist on.
I especially like the fact that he is EV savvy. So many reviewers trip over aspects of electric cars that are just not a problem for me with my EVs. I need a car reviewer that knows EVs. Alex is good at this.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
It's really so difficult to test drive the Volkswagen without the sales people harassing me. Thanks to Alex and his reviews. He shows pretty much like the test drive I would do at the dealership. I think these pushy sales people are the main reason many opt to get Teslas instead.
Yeah ground clearance and the Mach E having no official tow capacity vs the ID4 2200lbs/2700lbs is a consideration. Torklift is working on a Mach E hitch, but it's careful to say any towing issue won't be because of their hitch. torkliftcentral.com/2021-ford-mustang-mach-e-trailer-hitch
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT Paulo, Your constant harping on this issue reminds me of our former President repeatedly telling us there was no Covid. For my personal choice, I've already chosen the ID.4 because there are features that appeal to me more.
It boggles the mind that we're still dealing with laggy entertainment systems on new cars after all these years. Targeting the electronics for the relatively static software that goes in cars isn't rocket science, and there's really no excuse for not building something that is absolutely responsive 99% of the time.
@@alwaysiyi272 Maybe so, but that is so counterproductive. A faster processor would cost how much per car? $100? I’d pay that to not have a laggy frustrating infotainment system. It is a penny wise and pound foolish decision.
@@M1911jln may have something to do with the chip shortages the entire planet is facing with increasing competition from cryptocurrency miners. Could be that they cannot physically get their hands on something to handle the performance, regardless of cost.
@@brownro214 They are getting close though. The range and the tech in these Tesla competitors are getting there. The main advantage to Tesla's is the Supercharger network. Either way, I think it is important to have competition and people need to realise that the Tesla isn't the only option.
I test drove the ID.4 last week (in Europe) and the one I drove had brake hold. You get a heat pump in the ID.4 in the higher trim versions and in the lower trim versions it's optional (about $650 option).
I have the Mach E First Edition with a glass panoramic roof. While it is still spring weather in Los Angeles, we did have a 90-degree weather recently, thankfully the Infrared coating on the panoramic roof was great! I noticed no heat affecting me from the roof and was similar to my other car which is a sunroof with shade. We have not had 110 degree weather yet so I cannot comment how it handles rejecting that level of heat.
Right!? Not for me, but my wife has me close the sunroof in our current car every time she gets in. I love the Frunk in the Mach E, but the ID4 wins overall. Either way...the new electric cars make for very exciting times in automobiles!
The Mach E is inspired heavily by the Ford Evos concept model that was displayed around 2010. Ford used a lot of styling cues from that concept in recent years, but the Mach E is the closest thing you’ll see.
VW was very nice, test drove one earlier last week. It was very. Comfortable and quiet, Great headroom at 6’3”. Havent tried the mach-e yet, recently bought the ModelY
Excellent review. Tires aside, I love styling of MachE. Shape of front fender and hood are very appealing to me. Interior design is a winner. I am waiting for Tesla Y to give me heads up display or instrument cluster like MachE and better build quality like the Ford. Will buy in another year or so.
Things are really starting to heat up in the mainstream EV space. Once the Koreans and Japanese manufacturers join the fray, there will be plenty of options for people to choose, and hopefully dealers will get serious about understanding them and caring about them.
If you like the Lancia Delta, Hyundai Pony, and the original VW Golf/Rabbit; you will like the Ioniq 5. The designer who designed the Pony also designed the other 2 vehicles i mentioned. What i find fascinating about the Ioniq 5 is, it is more VW than the VW I.D. 4.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
I think the difference is that the Ford Mach-E is made for the American market, it is not very common to have a tow hitch on normal cars in USA but the VW is made for the European market and it is very common with a tow hitch in Europe.
Alex's comment about the Mach E's glass roof being a solar oven was spot on. As a previous owner of a Subaru Outback wagon with a sunroof and living in FL, we kept is closed all of the time for that very reason. This would be a deal breaker for me concerning the Mach E.
In Europe the ID.4 comes standard with auto-hold. Got my car early January, happy with it, but consumption is a bit high (as a result of lower temperatures). I hope this improves in spring and summer. Auto-coasting is also part of my car provided you put it in either Eco or comfort mode. In sports mode it does regen braking when lifting off your foot from the pedal. The ID.4 als comes with a kind of auto pilot, even, which I think works very well. In addition it has a function that auto-brakes for curves and roundabouts, even in non-auto pilot mode. The infotainment is indeed very laggy and sub-standard (with Software 0783 aka ME2.0), version 0793 (or 2.1) is being rolled out in Europe, I hope that imporves the speed of the infotainments system, and that should allow for OTA updates starting this summer
@@tomj4371 Hi Tom, is it ok if I answer in metric? First of all I have a 11kW wallbox at home which makes that charging is effortless in most instances. My practical range is some 250-300km, that is mostly highway at speeds of 110-120km/h and by practical range I mean charge till 80pct and charge when at 100pct. When leaving home fully charged, at 100% then depending of ambient temperature I reach 350-400 km when getting nervous at around 10% State of Charge. In general sanitary pauses are needed more often then charging. But as said I mostly charge at home and can return with sufficient charge. I am happy with my EV.
Yes, the much faster Mach-e with only skinny tires is a concern. As what good is speed without handling to go with it. The lack of a roof sunshade is a concern as well. But if exterior looks is a main concern, the Mach-e looks so much better than the VW.
The ID.4 has been tested, validated and survived the European market. They have been successful with the ID.3 version too. I suspect the issues with electrify America are more to do with them being built and shipped from Europe which operate a different electrical grid. I wouldn't be writing off VW anytime soon!
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Did he use user submitted captions before? I know google killed that and this weekend I’ve only been able to get auto-captions on most channels. It’s a mess :/
This is the only review that’s made me actually like the ID4. I don’t really care about the frunk but am planning on getting my first EV next year. I always shied away from the ID4 but after this I may have to give it a look.
I was heading towards the Ioniq 5 and then I noticed that the ground clearance was pathetic, worse on a car with such a long wheelbase. In fact most ESUVs have poor ground clearance. I'm now seriously considering the AWD ID4, which in the UK is being marketed as the GT.
Love your work! I visited a Ford dealer who had a demo of MachE premium. They only allow you to ride as passenger. The sales rep demonstrated the route planner with a trip to Disney, normally a 12 hit drive. The Mache planner gave a 43 hour drive with charging. Not sure if the east I95 corridor doesn’t have fast charge, but that presentation really dampened my enthusiasm. .
I tested a Mach-e Premium last weekend from my local Ford dealer. I called the salesman ahead to schedule it. He was working from home. My son and I arrived, I talked to the receptionist, she handed me the keys and pointed to the car. Did not even check my DL,credit, or send a salesman with me. They did not limit my time. We took it for an hour. It probably helped that I bought my Ford Edge from them 5 years ago (my first Ford). We have an excellent local Ford dealer (Anderson Ford). The nearest Tesla dealer is an hour away. My son owns a brand new Tesla Y performance edition which we arrived in and parked in front of the showroom. so i test drove both cars the same day. I am conflicted. I have a reservation in for a GT right now. I like many things better on the Tesla. Build quality on my son's Tesla is excellent but he waited for that to improve and took delivery on Dec 31st 2020. I'll probably go with the Mach-e GT at this point. But when Tesla gets the tax credit back, I might reconsider. Sorry for not being specific with details but I would have to write a full review to cover all the different things i like best on each car and don't have time while reading this at work.
Great review. I drive hwy 17 in the Santa Cruz mountains and my premium Mach-e handles great! I love the way it drives. It handles almost as well as my 2012 Mazda Miata. I’m surprised you didn’t mention the different drive settings on the Mach-e . I stick with “engage”
"...The Mach-E "has this angry handlebar mustache going on..." Now I have to clean the coffee I spit up all over my screen! As usual, a tremendously informative review. I have to say if I were seriously in the market I'd have to pull out a spreadsheet and go slowly through the video to construct a point-by-point checklist to make a decision. As a GTI owner living in Washington State I tend to prioritize handling over straight line acceleration so my ultimate preference might go to the ID.4. But I'm very impressed by the job Ford has done in the initial incarnation of the Mach-E. Frankly, I didn't think they had it in 'em. Of course the elephant in the room is Tesla. And I have tremendous respect for Musk & Co's efforts to design and build not only several compelling automobiles but the even more challenging job of successfully building an automotive manufacturer from scratch. No one else has managed to do that in America since well before WWII. (e.g. noble failures like Kaiser and Tucker.) But while pioneers are deservedly lauded they're frequently long term failures. (e.g. Nikola Tesla.) The jury's still out on Tesla's challenges in terms of fit/finish and building a service and repair network to match mainstream manufacturers like Ford and VW. I wish Tesla the best of luck but many consumers are likely to opt for more familiar nameplates. And ultimately the future of EVs is in the hands of those automakers.
Mainstream manufacturers have the advantage of making EVs that are much less weird to own and operate and do not project the cultish image of an Elon stan. I did not even consider Tesla when EV shopping because of the brand image, the lack of Carplay, the build quality, the awful soft paint that makes PPF mandatory (assuming the car is completely painted at all), and the unpredictable performance in terms of range and power that only meets advertised specs under very specific circumstances. And that's not even talking about $10,000 in tax credits where I live.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
I have test driven a VW ID4 and the Tesla Model Y. I haven't had a chance to test drive a Mach E yet. I will say this, the ID4's ride felt much more like a car/crossover. The Model Y's ride was extremely bumpy. The sales guy told me they have heard that complaint and there should be an update this year to address that. The interior of an ID4 is more like that of a regular car than Tesla's since it has an instrument cluster as well. I didn't like the interior if the Model Y. The minimalist approach was just weird feeling to me. If I get one of these, the ID4 is leading the race right now but I want to check out the Mach E. With that being said, it almost seems like Ford got a Model Y and reverse engineered it and said "let's see if we can make the same thing for less and put a Mustang badge on it" which kind of turns me off.
In term of styling, I go with iD 4. But, the id 4 body can add12 inch more on the rear end, makes it an true wagon. inspired by EVs, Now I can see sporty and fuel econemy can go together.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Always appreciate the detailed reviews. My main problem with this and other other reviews is that I don't drive around with five roller bags, ever. What I do drive around with is my massage table (I'm a therapist). I also transport things like big screen TVs. In other words, large bulky items, not a series of bags I can adjust and rearrange. I haven't found any reviews by anyone that use some real-world examples of putting items in the cargo space.
Have a Mach E AWD Ext Range Premium in Rapid Red on order for the hubs. Looks like maybe August delivery. He asked about an ID4 for me because I like the more square back and higher clearance, so this comparison was very helpful. Thank you.
I test drive the ID4 today. Nope. I was not impressed at all. For the money, I’d go with a entry level Mach E over the VW hands down. The Ford is a much better car. Much.
When you called the Mach E a fatter Mustang you really meant PHATTER right? PH FAT? ;). Alex, you are incredibly detailed. And objective. I watch every one of your videos because you don't gloss over the faults of every vehicle. Thank You! I'm leaning toward the AWD version of the ID4 as it will have a lot more kick ass to it. The alternative is the IONIQ 5 AWD. The Mustang would be in the running but in Canada they didn't mark a base model starting at 45k which means none of the trims get the 5k dollar gov't rebate. Ford Canada, anybody home???
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for the comparison! Great job, one thing for me however, is I did not have any trouble with feeling too hot in the Mach-e with the panoramic roof, it has auto-darkening on the premium.
The Mach-E will sell more because there are more Ford dealers. My VW dealer is 60+ miles away, my Ford dealer is 13 miles away and right next to my Walmart.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT I rarely put the effort in to slamming idiots, but you hit me on a bad day. First, get over your caps lock ego and try actually listening to the review and not what you think you know. Like the fact that this is the North American -- specifically US release. 1. None of the US based reviewers have been able to get the ID4 onboard route planner to filter for charging rates. None. 2. VW's Travel Assist (Semi-Automated Driving Assistance) is not autonomous driving. Its Lane Keep Assist and Adaptive Cruise Control, Ford does that, everyone offers that these days. The Ford System that he clearly said isn't available yet, is like GM's SuperCruise which allows hands off driving on mapped roads. He clearly pointed that out and you chose to ignore it. Directly from VW's US Press Kit, "Travel Assist enables Level 2 partially-automated hands-on driving from 0 to 95 mph." 3. The VW ID4 as currently available in the US does NOT have auto brake hold. VW says it will come later. They said it will be in a software update. Again, this is a US based reviewer, doing a review with a North America/US model. Several reviewers have actually taken video of the grayed-out/unavailable auto-brake hold button on the screen. 4. The VW ID4 sold in the United States does NOT have a heat pump. VW installed resistive heating to get the price down. Canadian models have a heat pump, and maybe VW will offer it as an option in the US for colder climates, but the US models do NOT have a heat pump. 5. Of course the ID4 comes with an EVSE, it comes with a US-standard 110 volt EVSE while the Ford comes with one that can do either 110 volt or 220 volt. That is what he mentioned at the end, if you wanted to have an EVSE in the car that supported 220 volt, you'd need to buy one. Your statement really made it obvious that you aren't in the US. 6. The VW ID4 supports over-the-air updates; but a lot of the press cars don't have the most current software installed which supports it. Apparently the US software release 2.1, build 0792 is required to support over-the-air updates; however none have been pushed out. Reviewers can only state what they know, based on the vehicles they've been supplied by the manufacturer. Calling Alex on Autos biased has got to be the funniest, most inane, thing I've ever heard. Alex and his team do a thousand times the research before making these videos that anybody out there except perhaps Engineering Explained- who focuses, almost to the detriment of the rest of the review, on the mechanics of the vehicle. Alex has now purchased 3 vehicles for long term review, the first was a base Tesla Model 3, then a Toyota RAV4 Hybrid, and now the Mustang Mach-E. He'll compare the Mach-E to just about every 'similar' vehicle out there while he owns it because it is on hand. But to say he's biased towards it? Certainly not. The ID4, as it was delivered in the US, is not quite there. Maybe people the US expect more from their new cars?
Kudos to both manufacturers for bringing competitive EVs to the marketplace. Mach E is my choice, but I could see someone taking the VW. Enjoying the hell out my 2017 Ford Focus Electric. Next one one will probably be a Mach E GT.
This was a great review and super useful. Very densely packed with information. So glad I watched. Have test driven both plus the model Y and leaning towards the Mustang, but still stuck on Tesla’s network and thinking the EV rebate will be extended.
My son just purchased a premium Awd Mach E. After taking my opportunity to test drive his Mach E. From your review and seeing the VW. I would pick the Ford hands down in overall styling and performance. Looking at the VW. It looks like a VW used an SUV and made an EV. The interior was bland in the VW. Batteries under the hood seems strange. When I drove my son's Mustang Mach E premium Awd. It was fantastic. I was surprised at it's performance and charging time was more than exceptable. It's ride and handling was great. Hands free driving is currently being offered thru Ford with a download. You mentioned the Frunk. The Frunks deviders are removable and had a removable drain plug if you want to ice down some cold ones at a tailgate party. The Ford is sexy and imo, I feel handles amazing. If you looked at your Mach E. I don't think you'll find the ford name. I believe Ford will eventually make the Mustang it's own brand within the Ford motor company. Many people like myself have owned several Mustangs and love them. The Mustang Mach E opens a new Mustang consumer market that wants a Mustang, but need four doors and a usable rear seats. I'm one of those customers.
I always appreciate your in-depth reviews Alex and had vested-interest been awaiting this one. I do agree with your assessment that if you want to stand out in the crowd get the Mustang Mach-E. I took delivery of an ID.4 First Edition just yesterday (17 March 21) and I'm really enjoying it. But no one is turning their heads. At a casual glance they likely think it's just another VW Tiguan and don't bother to look more closely. I actually want some anonymity this time around so I'm good with it, but again I do concede your point.
i don't know about the options of the id4 in the US, but auto hold and coasting are in the European model, also a heat pump is available as option in Europe
I think I would be happy with either one. (I currently drive a 15 year old Odyssey, so pretty much ANYTHING else would make me happy). I'm currently leaning toward the ID.4, though. I'd really like to be able to put a hitch receiver on my car and the Mach-e isn't rated for towing. I'm not looking to tow an RV, but I would like to be able to put a bike rack on it or get a 4x8 trailer for runs to the home center. To me, the biggest drawback to the ID.4 is that they didn't design it with a frunk. That just seems like they didn't fully embrace the current EV design possibilities. I also really like that VW included 3 years of free charging with ElectrifyAmerica. They just put a charging station in around the corner from my house.
We just bought a Mustang Mach e premium this past weekend. We're loving it so far. When I was young and single I owned a Trans-Am and then a Camaro Z28. This is much faster than either of those. It's even faster than my F-150 that has a 395 horsepower v8 in it. I was on a two-lane Highway passing a slower vehicle and I went from 60 to 105 before I realized it and got back into my own lane. You have no idea how fast you're going because it's so quiet and the acceleration actually puts you back into the seat. The GT when it comes out will be mind-blowing. Saving money wasn't the primary reason for me to buy this car but I live 25 miles from the nearest town so only costing $0.90 in electricity each way is a real bonus.
I have an id4 AWD on order and test drove a first yesterday. Power off the line was nice but after 30mph I was really looking for more power. going to drive a mach- e Wednesday. wish the AWD id4 was available for testing.
@@FreiherrvonWeilberg Night and day difference. The Mache e had an abundance of power and felt more like driving a car. Interior space was about the same though the ID4 could fit a larger item in the trunk. VW is delaying the AWD model until late this year (so they say). considering cancelling my ID4 AWD and getting a mach- e.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Th ID 4 is a great deal. It beats the Mach E when it comes to ride quality and cabin noise. Also if you are in the US you will get 3 year free charging on EA chargers.
@@goochigoochs3836 Ford Escape sold 11,000 in Feb, 17,000 in Mar, and 15,000 in April. Which was like 10x more than the Mach e. The Toyota Rav4 sold 35,000, 47,000 and 40,000 those same months These are just the few I looked up. Even the Chevy Blazer that a lot of people don't like sold more than the Mach E. Tesla Model Y selling 33,000 just in March alone tripled the total sales of the Mach e
10:42 It's pretty obvious that your leg lays flatter in the ID4 and more crouched in the Mach E where the front half of your thigh wasn't supported at all.
Great video comparison. I still don't understand why Ford used the Mustang moniker instead of Edge, or Explorer, or just Mach -E. I do know why they didn't name it the Escape -E. And what's up with "Mach"? There is nothing on the car that is the speed of sound, except the electrons that run the car, and they go at the speed of light.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
2021 production of Ford Mustang Mach E is only estimated at just under 50,000 vehicles. The ID 4 is predicting 100,000 but they are already having battery, software, and chip delays. So that prediction from VW might be way off. I would suggest they will follow Ford on this one and produce 50,000 this year. Tesla will most likely sell more than 500,000 Model Y alone, not counting Model 3, S, X, or Cybertruck.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
I drove the Mach E in California Route 1 guise. I echo what you say about the tires. I took a corner quickly to see how flat is stays, but could not even focus on that, because the tires were squealing so badly. The acceleration, while quick, does not feel quick. I expected more of a throw back in the seat from what is supposed to be instant torque delivery. Maybe the AWD will be better. Premium has the best looking wheels. GT has the ugliest wheels. I think my choice would be the Select model with AWD. That way, I can avoid the needless glass roof and spend the savings on some aftermarket wheels and tires. It will be worth having to recharge sooner to have decent handling. I'm not a fan of perforated seats, either, so win-win. The seats were pretty comfy for me, but I have not tried the VW.
@@hiiiofficial8306 I guess practicality really goes towards vw but unfortunately I speak by experience I have not had good experience with this brand that is why my decision to go towards Ford
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
It's hard to get either one at the moment. I was told by the Ford dealer that the one they had they were not able to sell for 40 days. So, even though I drove it and had a favorable impression, I did not have the option to buy it. I asked when they'd be getting some stock in and they replied that they way of the world with the Mach-e was that it would be an order only car at the moment. One reason given for this was the microchip shortage. At the moment, there is going to be a wait unless you can snag one on the lot at a fair price vs. having to have a bidding war with other buyers to get the one on the lot. I don't know what the lead time is for the Mach-e if you order one? No VW around here even has an ID.4. So, I can't even try out to compare and see visually.
Where do you live right now? I live in the Tampa/Saint Pete/Clearwater area, and my two closest VW dealers each have an I.D 4, though only Lokey VW in Clearwater has salesstaff just dying to take you for a test drive in it. AutoNation Ford in Saint Pete has a “California Route 1“ model that they are happy to have you test drive, and Walker Ford is allowing you to sign up to take a Mach-e home for a couple days to see how you like living with it!
@@beach1963 I'm in the Omaha, NE area. There are Mach-e's around, but I've not seen any ID.4's yet. I've not checked at the other dealers to see if theirs are for sale or if they got them as service loaners and can't sell them until they get their service loaner miles. It's not hard to test drive one, it's just hard to find one that they can sell you. I don't particularly want a service loaner as I think those will be "tested" out pretty thoroughly. I don't know how long the wait would be if I ordered one would be.
Pretty good review. One thing to take into consideration: Parts availability. My Mach E got rear ended while I was stopped in traffic on the freeway, and it has been in the shop for over 2 months now, waiting for parts. Since these cars are so new, and logistics chains are so wrecked, the parts just aren't coming in. I LOVE the car, I just wish I could drive it! And if they wind up doing the buy-back program on me, I'll be stuck trying to find another one, and having to pay a crazy mark-up, since I won't have time to wait for an order.
I've owned many a real mustang few years ago people are going to have to realize something very important the very first mustang produced by ford moter company was produced in 1964 And a hafe.yes the very first year and it had a generator the have ben all gas powered .the electrick mustang might be ok.migth not be ok .but people are going to have to have them fir at least three years .to get the bugs out of them and the glitches out.so until.the have got at least 200.000.yhousand on the yhats the real test we will see then👍
I think both of these serve their purpose but I think the Nissan Ariya is going to be a game changer. PLUS Toyota just announced an EV at the Toyota event in Japan.
I am waiting on the review for the Nissan Ariya from Alex, then I'll decide what EV vehicle I'll purchase 2 years from now. It maybe one of these 2, or maybe the Nissan Ariya.
@@robbyu.672 I will save my money from now on until 2 to 3 years from now, and when that time comes, I'm going to trade in my 2018 Nissan Altima for one of those 3 EV vehicles I mentioned. EV vehicles are the wave of the future for the whole world. :D
Skoda Enyaq will be same as Volkswagen in driving (same platform), but more space and way better interior and exterior design. Picking the upcoming 4-wheel from that will also be faster than the rearwheel version. Not on par with the Mach E in speed, but 1.5 seconds faster than this ID4 in 0-60, while keeping the benefits of better suspension.
FYI, the id4 technically has a grille shutter. It's a roller blind design and can be seen if you pop the hood and look down between the radiators. This still helps with aero.
No Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo. Tesla is toast - Ioniq5 and Kia EV6 look great too and have useful features that Tesla don’t have like a solar roof and ability to transfer electricity out of the battery
In the EU versions of the ID.4 you already get Auto hold and Travel Assist ("Auto pilot"). The ID.4 can also apply regen automatically based on the road curves etc in ACC. Finally, the ID.4 also easily reaches the EPA rating according to some tests in Europe.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
The appeal of electric cars has gone way down for me. Have you seen the electric rate increase in California? Almost 50% over the last 3~4 years, depending on your plan. Soon it will be more expensive to "fill-up" than gas. Electrify America already charges $0.43 per kilowatt, without membership. I can depend more on gas companies to keep prices competitive than California utility companies. Alex, where do you think the tipping point is where people will not choose electric over gas?
Thanks for the great comparison video. I was leaning toward the Mach-E for my next EV, but the ID.4 sounds better the more I learn about. Seems like they both need some software upgrades to iron out the kinks. My current bottom line is “how soon will the Ioniq 5 be out?”
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
In Canada, ID.4 base pricing is much more aggressive at 45k$Cdn towards the Mach-E at 52. Additionally even the Id.4 upped trim at 53, it still qualifies for both federal 5k$ and Quebec's 8k$ EV rebates for a total 12k$. Mach-E does not qualify for the fed and there is no way to get the big battery AND the Qc rebate. Pricing wise, ID.4 becomes a real deal here! Mine on order, amongst the first Cdn deliveries due later this summer. BTW for now available only in British Columbia and Québec. Rest of Canada will have to wait longer.
We got an ID 4. The 3 years of free charging and understated string sold us on it. Volkswagen had an amazing lease deal but these models are hard to find in Arizona and the one dealer that had a base model didn’t participate in that lease deal. 🤦♂️
If you are not a mustang fan, there is no good reason to have long front/nose in an ev... To be honest the frunk is a gimmick if you have a decent size boot. You can utilize the space for the cabin of the car and boot. The rest of the issues you mentioned about the id4.. is related to the software in the press cars and it will be changed and improved. The mustang mach E is a great car .. both cars going to be very popular... Thank you for your videos ..
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Good review. Advantage seem to flow to the E-Mustang, but most all of those should and will go away with a software upgrade to the ID.4, many that have already happened. I'm sticking with the ID.4 which I believe is a better built vehicle.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT this guy is absolutely right about what he says. As an car enthusiast your dieselgate scandal vw is just a deal breaker. Go see how many owners suffer from dieselgate even today. Your electrify America is itself one of the worst software that couldn't even work for vws own car. It worked well with ford and other. The teslas and fords made right electric vechiles with the frunk completely open while vw made an engine like crap in the front thereby making it a crap in ev department . No break pedals no proper touchscreen I can't even spend or buy the vw for free. Enough of justifying your vw crap. Ford 🏆
The gloss black trim around the Mach E's wheel-wells and bumpers looks like it will get scratches and chips easily. You won't have to worry about road grime paint chips on the ID4. No premium sound option from VW though.
I don't think either of these are going to win a beauty prize. Seems like the boxy Bronco styling could have been a better retro choice for Ford. To me Ioniq 5 seems more interesting inside and outside.
Disagree, but of course looks are personal. Look at the Mustang in person, and it’s quite striking. I REALLY liked it in white when I saw it last year. Was not expecting to.
Raising hand. 1:40 mark. Are you suggesting there is less of a focus on air efficiency with the cooling duct on the WV due to cost? Suggesting that if we pay more or if WV could get more, the cooling duct would be designed differently?
