Volleyball Caught/Carried Ball - rules 

I am ignorant about volleyball and I've been trying to understand this to no avail. These two are absolute carries and what's more interesting is matches are chock full of this. In the first one actually there's a stop, the guy palms the ball and leads it, that's not the ball's own trajectory. In the second one the guy changes the ball's direction. There're so many instances where it the looks like the ball is given another direction by not the wrists but knuckle+finger movement. If there was rebounce then you could say palming and or knuckling it would have been no different than just smacking it or hitting it flathandedly but these balls look like they're not flying but floating when this thing happens at slower speeds. The darn ball looks like it's dancing in the air of its own volition and it happens so many times without any intervention from referees. So I don’t think I'll ever get it.

@2:52 The second one, the player wiped off the block, but was still touching the ball after the block was wiped. The last person to touch the ball before going out was the attacker. Though this is so hard to call in real time without these cameras angles

I think both examples would be called a fault without the block. The "catch and throw" has to occur before the block touches it for the play to be called a fault. Rule 9.1.2.3 states: "If simultaneous hits by two opponents over the net lead to an extended contact with the ball, play continues." In your examples you clearly see the "catching" but the block intercepts the "throwing" and makes "extended contact with the ball" legal.

Finally! We need more quality instructional videos like this.

So basically saying the ball should leave your hand right after contact ? Total carries in my opinion Basically holding the ball in his hand and pushing it To my eye at least

Thanks for this video. Both of those examples look to me like the attacker is pushing the ball long enough to constitute a "carry" in my mind. I'm using the word "pushing" on purpose to choose a word that's not part of the rules; maybe that's even more confusing, though! But I'm seeing it as there isn't a "rebound" in the sense of the ball being contacted by the attacker and then "rebounding" off of their hand. More they contact the ball, then push it towards where they want it to go and then eventually stop pushing it and the ball comes off. It seems super clear to me, as the attacker's hand in the second case is touching the ball for well over a foot or so of its travel. He "pushes" the ball all the way into and then through the right hand of the blocker, then he stopped pushing it well after it's past the blocker's hand. And actually, in that second case, since the last player in contact with the ball before it landed out of bounds was the attacker, it seems like whether or not they call the attacker's play a carry or a caught ball, the point should go to the Polish team, as the USA player touched the ball last before it landed out of bounds. (I'm applying like a basketball concept here for when the ball goes out of bounds.) Tricky stuff for referees at live speed!!

The rules also state prolonged contact is allowed if its a joust (both players fighting to put it over thr net)

Fun Fact: Even if there was no throw call on the second ball, it should still have gone to Poland. The USA (red) player touched the ball, "tipped" it into the block and when the ball was past the block (blocker's fingers were no longer touching the ball) the red player STILL touched the ball and played it out ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z0l-CtTfZOM.html. It should probably have been called for a carry, but that rarely happens at VNL level

Sir I have a small doubt In the middle of the game ,the ball just placed over the net equally two sides of the court ,two players of opposite teams caught the ball at same time , spontaneously they two of them played out of the court with contact each other.one of the player used right hand and other is left hand.the ball got outside of the court in the right hand player side. The both used only one hand ... Who will got the point....?

I agree with your assessment.

Lifts and doubles really shouldn't be interpreted using slow motion. The speed at which these things occur matters and not set or soft touch is ever perfect when zoomed and slowed enough. Good video showing the nuances though.

Looks like a catch and throw in both cases, the second is very clear IMO.

For me, I think it’s all good as long as the player is in mid-air. Cause if it’s a dual, both players gonna be pushing the ball against one another and the net will decide who the winner is.

These are both pretty obvious to me. I play mostly B and BB and these would be called every single time.

He just gave what they did back to them. As long as it was called the same as the other team is all I care about...

Sir I want to ask one genuine question .my question is when the match is going on condition is like when opponent team serv.. Then the ball gose to another team and then immediately they will touch which is considered to be a 1st touch for receive.. Then after they will go for second touch while one of a team member touch the ball but while touching the ball if there is a clash between their teammate and ball is still in their court then what would be a decision..,? Is it good acceptable ? Sir I'm talking about 2nd touch.. Example if I'm playing and I'm touching 2nd ball while touching my teammates bodily contact with me but the ball is contact by me my friend just touched my body. Is it fault.,?

That was a catch and throw!

Catch ball

Carry violation?

“You can’t throw the ball” **jump serves**

First example goes cleanly in one direction, so it’s legal (although would’ve been better if he hadn’t used his whole hand). The second example goes in two different directions, so that’s a throw, and should be whistled illegal.

It's a catch and throw, clearly the idea was to do a fait. You only do faints with your 4 fingers, this is called a dink and it's allowed, if you're using your whole hand with palm then that's considered catch and throw as shown in the first vid

Anyone else came here after making a bad call on a carry? lol. This is the only reason I’m here.

Once you say "carry" it misleads you. It different move. There is no carry mistake. It is a catch and/or throw. Ball wasn't caught

Simple. If your not smacking the ball your carrying it. Period. This type of overthinking is why I'm staying away

@ആമീൻ 😂

They're both carries.

Damn, I got ragged by my referee.

The grey area is when you get a natural athlete like a basketball player who has great finger tip control and can tap effectively in a direction without catching or using a palm. The non-athletic/ basketball types cry every single time and it's not illegal. In my experience. But b aue they can't do it - you best believe they will all cry until you aren't allowed to play up to your ability and have to look more like them when you play.

It's kind of hilarious seeing these 7ft monsters pull this crap. We should just ban open hand tips like in beach rules. Open hand tips are also terrible for the spectator experience too.

for me it's legal... what illegal for me is using your foot to save the ball..