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In this video I am doing a review of this trinocular simul-focal microscope with hd camera. The unit was provided by banggood.com for the purpose of this review.
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@avejst
@avejst 4 года назад
Interesting review/test Thanks for sharing 👍😀
@adlerweb
@adlerweb 4 года назад
Have you checked if there is a transport foil on the sensor? For the FOV: Yes, you've got a passive adapter. A 0.5x-Tube instead of the 2-piece-thing works much better for FOV (but might degrade the image quality). For example BangGood 1618592.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
I did check if there is any protection film, there is none as far as I can tel. I can clearly see the image sensor die inside the camera. Thanks!
@fkiesel9442
@fkiesel9442 4 года назад
I had the same Issues with my microscope. The 0.5x camera adapter basically solved both issues. The field of view of the camera is still not the same as on the eyepieces, but it's good enough. It takes a bit of fiddling to get the focusing of the camera with the eyepieces correct.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
@@fkiesel9442 I've ordered one of those camera adapters 0.3X, I will do an update video when I receive it.
@cosminnci
@cosminnci 4 года назад
Try the camera when not mounted on the microscope, and check the brightness like that, could be a optical mounting / focal lenght problem only.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
It's hard to check outside of that mounting system, because the image is totally out of focus, there is no lens on the camera itself and I don't have any compatible lens.
@WertzOne
@WertzOne 4 года назад
@Lord_haven111 ` All you need is a C-Mount 1/3 and the camera will work correctly. The thing is the C-Mount 1/3 (or 0.33x C-Mount) isn't cheap, that's why this kind of kit doesn't includes it.
@xplore7359
@xplore7359 2 года назад
Is the base heavy enough that you could put the base to the wall and have the microscope extend away from it without tipping over? that way the base isn't in the way of where you are working? This is how I would use it as I have a large desk.
@simonwalkden5279
@simonwalkden5279 2 года назад
Hi wonder if you still have this i got 1 today find its very dark also you have to work on the end of the matt and didnt find it the clearest
@stevec5000
@stevec5000 4 года назад
For the camera on a microscope like that I used one I already had from a wrecked drone that is 1080P with WiFi and HDMI out that runs from a 5 volt micro USB supply The lens is much smaller so I 3D printed a collar to adapt it to the larger camera tube and it works great!
@chefbink61
@chefbink61 4 года назад
Great vid as always,,, This is an item I will need to get as my eyes aren't as good as they once were. Thanks for sharing!!
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
thanks!
@AnonymousRepair
@AnonymousRepair 4 года назад
Microscope opens a whole new world in electronics. I remember how horrified I was when I first look at my soldering of smd parts after getting the microscope :) nice microscope
@electronic7979
@electronic7979 4 года назад
Nice item
@isidoromaich7226
@isidoromaich7226 4 года назад
🙂
@judgebeeb1967
@judgebeeb1967 4 года назад
As others have suggested the field of view issue with the camera and the poor image quality are part of the same thing. You need a reducing lens between the camera and the trinocular port. This will increase the field of view and, because you are 'collecting' more light, the brightness should improve too. Also, the 'fine focus' control is not focus at all - it is the zoom control. This being a relatively low end microscope, adjusting the zoom tends to lose focus, so you need to adjust that (with the larger knob) once you have zoomed. You can get microscopes where the zoom control maintains focus at all settings, but they are insanely expensive. In due course, you will find that the microscope totally transforms soldering for pretty much all surface mount work. You will wonder how you ever coped without it.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
To me it doesn't make sense why they would sell a microscope + camera bundle that doesn't provide a good image and might need additional hardware. Reading other reviews on their website shows that some customers are getting good brightness from their cameras while other complain of the same problem.
@MrOrangeman18
@MrOrangeman18 4 года назад
VoltLog this is what happens when you buy Chinese stuff. Not much thought. More like “that will do”
@tommyarvidsson8907
@tommyarvidsson8907 4 года назад
My camera quallity is good though.
@jackoneill1070
@jackoneill1070 4 года назад
Hi there. I bought a similar microscope from BangGood and I'm having trouble get the camera on focus at the same as the eye viewers. I remember you had some problems with the camera, are you already being able to use it correctly? Cheers.
@paulbeckett1256
@paulbeckett1256 4 года назад
i just got this exact same scope and the camera is doing the same thing..... im putting it down to a cheap camera
@JohnJones-oy3md
@JohnJones-oy3md 4 года назад
I have basically the same model, but from US seller Amscope. Would strongly suggest going with the dual-boom stand if buying one of these. A little more expensive, but is rock solid and image is stable when working under magnification (the dual-boom base must be at least 40 pounds of cast iron). I also ended up using a 0.5x adapter to increase the working distance (always something to keep in mind when you need to get a soldering iron between the lens and PCB - many cheaper scopes have very small working distance that makes the unusable for our purpose).
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
Doesn't the more advanced boom stand take up a lot of bench space? My benches are not very deep so this matter a lot to me..
@JohnJones-oy3md
@JohnJones-oy3md 4 года назад
@@voltlog I don't think it needs THAT much more space. It doesn't have that big of a base, so the head is directly over your workbench surface (doesn't need it due to it being so very heavy). When not in use I just fold in the head and swing the boom 90 degrees out of the way. Even at full extension the dual boom is very solid and the image is stable, which was very important for me. Either one will do the job, but IMHO the dual boom is a good upgrade.
@EgonSorensen
@EgonSorensen 4 года назад
@@voltlog - It doesn't have to. I have a boom stand, and have built a stand for my soldering iron + heat gun on top and around the center. It adds weight, and I can extend the boom all the way out without it tipping. I have some extra stuff on the head, so it is extra heavy. When not in use, the head turns around and I center it - much like a sleeping bird. I would think you could do something similar, if you turn the base around. Tipping over could/would ruin the head, so be sure the stand is either bolted to the table - or heavy enough so it won't tip over if/when you pull down on the head by mistake.
@tommyarvidsson8907
@tommyarvidsson8907 4 года назад
Boomstand cost more than the scope. Thats just insane..
@belenhedderich3330
@belenhedderich3330 4 года назад
Does it really help in soldering? how you feel about sync with hands and soldering iron and depth?
@deangreenhough3479
@deangreenhough3479 4 года назад
Belen Hedderich I e had one of these for a while now. It’s absolutely perfect, good depth of field and sync. You will wonder why you didn’t do it before. One of my best buys ever
@Leif_YT
@Leif_YT 4 года назад
Depth is one reason why you should really go with a stereoscope and stay away from the cheap USB microscopes or microscopes that have only a monitor. For your own soldering two eyepieces are the best and probably the only thing you'll use. A camera is very nice for people who want to share their work and teach as well. I got an Olympus SD30 for cheap from a university and it made such a big difference when working on SMD parts or very small phone PCBs. It has a lower working distance then the one in this video, but still enough to solder comfortably. So for private use it can be worth to check the second hand market around you. Sometimes you can get high quality stuff for really cheap. If you can get an Olympus or other known brand and the lenses are still in a good condition you can't go wrong with it, They had an incredible quality even years ago. Personally i use most of the time 10x and for very small stuff 30x. Everything above is too much magnification imho.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
Like others have mentioned, with a stereoscopic microscope you get good depth of field and sync, it's just a short accommodation period that you need to get past.
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek 4 года назад
I've got to admit I've been tempted by these microscopes on more than one occasion, even though I've literally got nowhere to put it. I even considered getting rid of my couch to make room for another workbench!
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
It does take up space so it works best with at least a two bench setup, or one larger bench so that you still have enough room to work freely when you don't need the microscope.
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 года назад
I think the dark image is most likely related to the camera adapter rather than the camera. If you can, adjust the camera tube to reduce the distance as much as possible
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
There isn't much adjustment in that tube, I've tried multiple adjustments on that, doesn't make any difference in brightness, it just breaks the focus because it changes the distance from the camera sensor to the optics below.
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 года назад
@@voltlog It still sounds like the camera adaptor. The 0.3 or 0.35x adaptors from the ebay seller are lapsun_gift are probably the best ones. I don't think the camera is at fault.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
@@sdgelectronics Okay, I will have to get one of those adapters any way, so we'll find out in a few weeks if it fixes the problem.
@Leif_YT
@Leif_YT 4 года назад
Maybe the LEDs are not bright enough on that high working distance, combined with the brightness loss because of the camera adapter that BitBastelei mentioned? It's hard to tell how bright the LEDs are as a viewer because of auto exposure. I'm using a different scope, but i decided to create a ringlight with bright 5730 smd leds on a round pcb.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
Even if I bring in a lot of external light, the image is still just as dark on the camera.
@cmuller1441
@cmuller1441 4 года назад
The part between the camera and the body of the microscope may have an aperture setting. Maybe it's completely closed giving a wider depth of view but very little light.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
that part is actually just a two piece tube as shown in the video, no setting on that part, other than length, which controls the focus for the camera.
@ristomatti
@ristomatti 4 года назад
Hopefully you'll get the replacement soon!
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
I'm thinking it could take a while with Chinese New Year happening now..
@ristomatti
@ristomatti 4 года назад
@@voltlog For sure. The comment was for the algorithm. :)
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
@@ristomatti As always thank you for your support 👍
@EgonSorensen
@EgonSorensen 4 года назад
The boom stand is really great, it makes the setup a whole lot more stable - no more tipping over and no annoying plate below. I got it on my AmScope, head is quite similar to yours. Your camera is ok (I think) To get a better picture here's what I suggest: 1) Add much more light, a lot closer. 2)Disable auto-exposure, set the frame-rate at a lower speed (if possible) and/or increase brightness. The camera I have on my AmScope is the MU300 - USB2, 3.1MP - and it does 30fps in an OK quality (680x510) though it requires a bit of fine-tuning. It's rated at 22fps at 1024x768 - with good light exposure I get around 14fps, 22 fps is really dark and unusable.
@gartmorn
@gartmorn 4 года назад
I've watched other videos using digital microscopes and the lense is a lot closer to the board being worked on. I have also seen other users adding additional lighting.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
I have tried a lot of light externally, it doesn't help. Like others have suggested here I will try getting one of those camera adapter magnification lenses which will hopefully improve things.
@gartmorn
@gartmorn 4 года назад
@@voltlog Hope that solves things for you as it looks a good scope for the price otherwise!
@EgonSorensen
@EgonSorensen 4 года назад
@@voltlog - Did you try disabling the auto-exposure - @7:50 - does adjusting the Brightness setting up/down do a difference when auto-exposure is on/off? It can take a few seconds to kick in. Getting the lens adapter will do a lot as the field of view is larger, hence a lot more light will enter the camera. Best of luck!
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
@@EgonSorensen I have tried all of the available settings, they make little to no difference, the image is still dark. Now the best is on the adapter lens, which will take a while to arrive due to Chinese New Year holiday.
@thomasjaszewski64
@thomasjaszewski64 4 года назад
Yup, it’s limbo time for most Chinese support. I forgot and placed orders. The delivery will be late February,
@lucapesce3335
@lucapesce3335 4 года назад
I complained via email many times to Banggood support in the same start of 2020, to later discover that all their mail messages have been sent by them on time ...but classified as spam by Gmail 🙄
@hikmathasanov
@hikmathasanov 2 года назад
Is it trinocular or simul focal camera?
@tommyarvidsson8907
@tommyarvidsson8907 4 года назад
I have that, love it. I solder 1005 components on iphone with ease, and work with 0.01mm jumper wire. I can't find a reason to buy a way more expensive scope. Also i took away plate and drilled a hole in table, much better. Uhm, what else, its awesome for the money, no doubt.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
Awesome! If you are interested look below, someone posted a comment with a link to a 3d printed holder to be used in the same purpose for table top mounting.
@paulbeckett1256
@paulbeckett1256 4 года назад
exactly what i did with mine! no plate and drilled the desk.
@naheeduddin1672
@naheeduddin1672 3 года назад
@@voltlog where Is the link? I can't seem to find it
@OmarMekkawy
@OmarMekkawy 4 года назад
Check out this video for DaveJones EEVblog #1125 - Amazing $500 Soldering/Inspection Microscope!
@MickDownUnder
@MickDownUnder 4 года назад
Microscope pillar stand extra support - www.thingiverse.com/thing:4050173 Also for better FoV, use a 0.35x C mount adapter lens. You have a 1x.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
Thanks! I will give that support a try and I have one of those adapters for the camera on order.
@0dium.
@0dium. 4 года назад
those leds are useless when the scope is so high above the focal point.
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
Not really, they work really nice, image is very clear through the eye pieces.
@AnonymousRepair
@AnonymousRepair 4 года назад
try to drop the ring light lower
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
That's the second thing I tried, after checking if there is any protection film on the camera input. Unfortunately doesn't make any difference, I also tried bringing in a lot of external light without any luck.
@AnonymousRepair
@AnonymousRepair 4 года назад
@@voltlog www.banggood.com/HAYEAR-34MP-2K-1080P-60FPS-HDMI-USB-Industrial-Electronic-Digital-Video-Soldering-Microscope-Camera-Magnifier-for-Phone-PCBTHT-Reparing-p-1465107.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CN This is the camera I am using very happy with it
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
That looks like a nice camera to try next. Thanks!
@AnonymousRepair
@AnonymousRepair 4 года назад
@@voltlog I am using it on my channel 1080p 30fps, it can do 2k but only via hdmi
@brainfornothing
@brainfornothing 4 года назад
I prefer a cheap microscope for electronics, with USB output to my computer, where I can see it in my big monitor, take pictures and record video, because I have use monocular and binocular microscopes in the past and my eyes end very bad after less than a minute; I still have a monocular biological microscope, but I use the same system, USB camera to my computer, because that problem. Don't you have that problem yourself ? Thanks for sharing !
@sdgelectronics
@sdgelectronics 4 года назад
It sounds like you needed to change the dioptre adjustment for each eye. These shouldn't cause any eye strain
@brainfornothing
@brainfornothing 4 года назад
@@sdgelectronics Hey ! I know you! Hehehe ! :D Sorry, I didn't explain myself : is mostly because the light, even when is very low, and I'm not the only one, almost all people I know using microscopes feels the same, maybe is the contrast between the microscope light and the ambient light, no idea. Thank you for the videos in your channel !
@voltlog
@voltlog 4 года назад
I'm not having any notable problems while using a microscope, however I would imagine some eye strain is normal if you are using continuously for multiple hours. I never used a microscope for more than let's say 1 hour through the eye pieces.
@pakoakwa7032
@pakoakwa7032 4 года назад
Polak ? :)
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