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VR Mythbusting: Tracking with only one Lighthouse Base 

SadlyItsBradley
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In the next installment of "VR Mythbusting," I see how well the Vive reacts with only one active Lighthouse base station. The results are pretty interesting!
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@lily2078
@lily2078 3 года назад
so basically you turn your super fancy PC VR headset into a playstation vr headset
@themightyzeus9643
@themightyzeus9643 8 лет назад
Thanks for these informative videos man. It's keeping me patient for my Vive
@SadlyItsBradley
@SadlyItsBradley 8 лет назад
+Malachi Farrell No problem!
@bigwaltbigwalt
@bigwaltbigwalt 8 лет назад
+Brad Lynch I saw a vid of someone putting them in a warehouse spaced really really far apart just don't know if they use a sync cable or not a test on how far apart without sync cable would be nice to see as well.
@AaronFoxy10
@AaronFoxy10 Год назад
6 years later
@jawaharpatani3239
@jawaharpatani3239 6 лет назад
I used one light mounted at 1.5 mt on a tripod facing straight, and configured a standalone area setup , floor height was set a 1 mt and i got a 360 tracking at constant turning speed, if the speed is fast there are jerks and we keep losing and gaining visual, the test was done for making games for wheelchair users and how it would behave on a turntable or motion platform. love your video keep up the good work mate....
@ValiantDWC
@ValiantDWC 8 лет назад
Great series! Thank you for doing this for the community. :)
@SadlyItsBradley
@SadlyItsBradley 8 лет назад
+ValiantDWC Thank! Glad you're enjoying it. Happy to help.
@TaidaDave
@TaidaDave 4 года назад
I once after my vr session wanted to disconnect one of my base stations from the wall and it wasn't connected.. and I realized it works with one, I lost tracking in my hand a few times but thought it was due to low battery but that was the reason.. I'm actually surprised and quite glad that in case of one not working I have the other one
@NerdOrange
@NerdOrange Год назад
I've had to use a single lighthouse and the higher you can get it the better I've even had some moments when I could do a full 360° without much hassle But two is definitely best
@ScavengePro
@ScavengePro 6 лет назад
What happens if you put the lighthouse above you facing down??
@WilliamMcCarthyIII
@WilliamMcCarthyIII 5 лет назад
I would also like to know this.
@patula591
@patula591 5 лет назад
u cant do that because its not in the right degree
@marcuscazzola4005
@marcuscazzola4005 4 года назад
Patula It should work. If the base station can see the headset and the controller, it should not be an issue.
@Fix44
@Fix44 3 года назад
The base stations require a 30 to 45 degree angle to be able to make sense of whats infront of it. Any more or less and it will have issues
@who_am_you
@who_am_you 3 года назад
One of my lighthouses broke so I used my working one at a angle and it worked like how the video was showing where it would turn gray when you look away
@cerealinbowl8806
@cerealinbowl8806 4 года назад
Thanks man, this really helped me out. Im budget shopping and found a great deal on a headset that only has 1 base station bundled with it and you have confirmed that i need to buy some more separat.e
@IsaiahCoberly
@IsaiahCoberly 8 лет назад
Good experiment.. This should be a good way to quickly set up a seated experience. Can't wait to see the next experiment :)I would love to see an experiment showing how accurate the controls can be. Perhaps you could mount a probe on the controller and measure a few real world objects with known dimensions. VR touch probe scanning! Woohooo!!
@stevedoetsch
@stevedoetsch 7 лет назад
Yes but can you do the setup with only one base station? When you have a broken base station, then you can't do the setup like in the video.
@bordep
@bordep 4 года назад
Yes. One of my base stations is broken and you can just do the setups. When drawing your room, make sure the 1 base station sees the controller
@robyboy7097
@robyboy7097 3 года назад
Actually super helpfull thank you very much. 5 years later and it helped me lol.
@megalopath
@megalopath 6 лет назад
Very interesting, I'm in the process of re-doing my mounting setup for my lighthouses and currently only have one setup, I should try it out and see if I can get away with one well setup lighthouse and one just kind of sitting on a table. Based on this video it looks like that may not just work but work pretty decently. The Vive is an incredible piece of technology, but I think the real star of the show is these lighthouses, they are remarkably precise and I could seem them having more uses than just for VR, but it does spectacular at VR for sure. Great video!
@no-one5310
@no-one5310 5 лет назад
That’s good to know. I am going to see if I can play sitting on my computer chair which worries me that it blocks the view of one base station. I broken my leg recently.
@cataMailman
@cataMailman 8 лет назад
Test-request! I have to set up my room-scale-space in another room than where my pc is located. I will need 10 meter extension cables to do this. So, I was wondering wether you can get the Vive to run with a 10m active USB cable (10m hdmi cable should pose no problem). I heard from one tester that he didn't get it to work with an active usb extension cable. I would love to hear a second opinion.
@CallMehDustyNinja
@CallMehDustyNinja 6 лет назад
My vive screen would turn grey sometimes and tracking was a little laggy.
@cataMailman
@cataMailman 8 лет назад
This is great news. There will be a ton of games that should be played while sitting down (Oculus style) for which only one lighthouse should be perfectly fine. I was really worried about my (future) setup. For one, I will have to carry the lighthouses from one room to another all the time because I have one room with enough space for room scale and another room for sitting experiences (that's where my pc is). So I only have to take one lighthouse from room to room! And then there's another problem that seems to be solved by the one lighthouse solution. I have one of these Maxnomic racer chairs with a very high backrest. I was wondering if I had to get another chair because the backrest would have obstructed line of sight between the back-lighthouse and the vive. Thanks so much for the videos.
@Micd521
@Micd521 2 года назад
This is how it feels to play PSVR
@mello.-.6516
@mello.-.6516 4 года назад
I love the video but what if you don't have another base station and you only bought 1 how do you setup it up because I can't I set the channel to A for single but it's not detecting anything
@jygako
@jygako 5 лет назад
My lighthouse just broke and it didnt do anything it wrokrd with one but if you look in the direction of where theres nothing it goes blue and you see nothing we are getting a new one for free since even the fix was done and htc themselves gave us new one
@XanderHDD
@XanderHDD 8 лет назад
Love this series!
@SadlyItsBradley
@SadlyItsBradley 8 лет назад
+LittleBigBeyond Glad you like it!
@2011jaydog
@2011jaydog 7 месяцев назад
My b sensor or base station went down,, wanting to try and order one, is there a way to change the letter or channel their on? The one that works is 'a' and b quit working, didn't kno if I had to find a b or if an "a" would work..
@numberonelakebedfan
@numberonelakebedfan 2 года назад
Thanks! I'm getting 3.0 vive trackers and I wanted to know whether or not I would be good with 1 base station until I got it working and no issues came up.
@uwuizi
@uwuizi 9 месяцев назад
how did that go for you?
@Omarippo
@Omarippo 8 лет назад
so one light house is for seated games ?
@peanutpomsky520
@peanutpomsky520 8 лет назад
This video made my day!
@epsilon1179
@epsilon1179 5 лет назад
this is great to know I am thinking of getting a vive but i am mainly restricted to play games sitting down and I just want to play vrchat.
@carlmckinnon107
@carlmckinnon107 2 года назад
A lot of times you find on Ebay VR headsets with no controllers. (from sim racers) I want to as well. Can I do the set up without controllers? (WMR G2 headset)
@slickyy_
@slickyy_ 9 месяцев назад
Can we use it without base? Just for playing vr racing game so that the headset only didnt use controller at all?
@shredwerd009
@shredwerd009 5 лет назад
this is my issue right now as a base station is out for repair... only a few days after i bought it x( i got the red blinking light issue.
@Nekotaku_TV
@Nekotaku_TV 3 года назад
I wanna know the tracking for trackers only.
@XernealHD
@XernealHD 8 лет назад
VR Mythbusting: We know what happens if we don't place them like in the manual, but what happens if we don't have a room that could give the lighthouse a distance about 5 meters?
@netts2315
@netts2315 Год назад
Nothing happens if your room distance is less than 5 meters. It works just fine.
@Warthundered230
@Warthundered230 6 месяцев назад
Can i set it up using only 1 base station?
@Jrsystem
@Jrsystem 3 года назад
how does he do pov? does he use the vive camera?
@DoctorZombo
@DoctorZombo 8 лет назад
Does this also happen when you put the two lighthouses next to each other? Both facing you, both connected.
@yunalesca_night_sky8998
@yunalesca_night_sky8998 4 года назад
DoctorZombo it should
@LoneWolf2056
@LoneWolf2056 8 лет назад
There was a recent notification that if you are using just a single lighthouse you should set it to channel A for better performance, did you leave them at the standard B and C for this video? I haven't tested it myself yet though.
@SadlyItsBradley
@SadlyItsBradley 8 лет назад
+LoneWolf2056 I had it set to channel B in the video. Thanks for letting me know!
@phantom-hugs2719
@phantom-hugs2719 2 года назад
could you have a mirror where the base station is disconnected pointing to the working one and have the mirror help would that be possible 🤔
@peshozmiata
@peshozmiata Год назад
No
@Sophistry0001
@Sophistry0001 4 года назад
I have both lighthouses mounted per the instructions in the top corners of the room. One I will call front left of the room and the other rear right. The one in the rear died on me, I guess the gyro or motor finally shit the bed. Buying a new base station is terrible at this point because they're still nearly 150 bucks, when I can get the full vive package for 500. I keep looking around for some way to repair it but I'm coming up empty. Good to know I can still play a few games that are mostly seated or don't require a lot of turning around.
@SadlyItsBradley
@SadlyItsBradley 4 года назад
Sorry to hear about your lighthouse. I had one die out on me too. I hope you can find a solution soon. But for now, ya you should be fine now that most games have snap turning.
@netts2315
@netts2315 Год назад
The lighthouses are repairable. You could turn to a fix tutorial here on RU-vid. You could just have loose parts inside that finally fell off, or the lasers died. Also the motor bearings or motors themselves can wear out and die.
@aradiati0n
@aradiati0n 8 лет назад
my favorite sellout
@AdrianAye
@AdrianAye 2 года назад
Looking for base station optimizing videos and came across this relic...
@harujumper5102
@harujumper5102 3 года назад
Honestly if you only get 1 basesation and the tracking pucks with the rift, that would be a good experience
@frylander
@frylander 8 лет назад
You cant have sensors on the straps, because they are not fixed to the headset and can move, making it pointless to put them there in the first place. The only solution to that would be having a one-piece HMD which resembled a helmet, which means no straps at all, just the helmet on your head. But I don't think that's a solution.
@S3NTRY
@S3NTRY 8 лет назад
one more option would be a rigid ring that runs parallel to the strap. but yeah, not ideal either.
@MutantBanana
@MutantBanana 6 лет назад
Correct, you can't have them on the back due to the way the Vive calculates the head's unknown position and orientation based on the received laser signal timing at known positions of the sensors on the rigid headset.
@crosshead4552
@crosshead4552 3 года назад
universe sandbox music intensifies.
@xCr3epy
@xCr3epy 3 года назад
can i use the htc vive vr headset with out the lighthousebase stations?
@SadlyItsBradley
@SadlyItsBradley 3 года назад
No
@stevenplopezii9919
@stevenplopezii9919 2 года назад
What if you put it above you??
@nonsuspiciouscolour
@nonsuspiciouscolour 3 года назад
This dude just predicted inside out tracking!
@Nekotaku_TV
@Nekotaku_TV 3 года назад
Video isn’t that old...
@nonsuspiciouscolour
@nonsuspiciouscolour 3 года назад
@@Nekotaku_TV inside out tracking didnt exist at the time
@RadioactiveLobster
@RadioactiveLobster 8 лет назад
Thumbs up purely for Apples to Apples cameo. Love that game.
@jeffjeronimo94
@jeffjeronimo94 2 года назад
Quick question whats the difference between 1.0 base station and 2.0 base station???
@williamjenks6866
@williamjenks6866 2 года назад
With 2.0 you can use 4 base stations. I think with 1.0 you are limited to 2. You want to be seen by more than 1 base station to have 360 degrees of accurate tracking when playing pavlov
@litrasp4481
@litrasp4481 8 месяцев назад
bro f*cking murdered his base station
@jimloughran7880
@jimloughran7880 6 лет назад
maybe you can put the Lighthouse Base on the Ceiling so it can see the trackers
@ajontop6460
@ajontop6460 3 года назад
A Different Video Title: Playing Pc Vr, but with PSVR tracking, BUT BETTER
@xforcedgamer9998
@xforcedgamer9998 3 года назад
what would happen if you dont use lighthouses?
@LatteWiiU
@LatteWiiU 3 года назад
It wouldn't be able to track
@fluffed_coyote1487
@fluffed_coyote1487 5 лет назад
One of my lighouses died, that's why i'm here
@DeathmtlVR
@DeathmtlVR 4 года назад
x2
@LatteWiiU
@LatteWiiU 3 года назад
On the recording the screen turns grey
@loneventhorizon
@loneventhorizon 4 года назад
Doesn't it turn grey
@NettiGaming
@NettiGaming Год назад
This guy sounds like kip from Napoleon Dynamite
@Serpher1
@Serpher1 8 лет назад
How did you get the Vive in a first place? Are you a developer?
@SadlyItsBradley
@SadlyItsBradley 8 лет назад
+Serpher I submitted an idea for a contest and won.
@skyr8449
@skyr8449 8 лет назад
+Brad Lynch what was that idea? (foot trackers for the vive, along with chest and back ones so games like hover junkers could be way more accurate?)
@SadlyItsBradley
@SadlyItsBradley 8 лет назад
Hahaha, actually my idea was much sillier than what you'd probably expect. I didn't think I'd win. You can read my stupid idea here: fyre.it/qaFdbC.4
@Serpher1
@Serpher1 8 лет назад
+Brad Lynch Dude, that's a crazy idea you had there.
@skyr8449
@skyr8449 8 лет назад
yeah I still think they should add chest back and shoe scanners :/
@AllTheBestVideos
@AllTheBestVideos 3 года назад
With one light house it is like the PSVR 🤣🤣🤣
@itzspencerr1403
@itzspencerr1403 8 лет назад
Vive is my favorite VR headset. It's like Wii, Kinect, and Oculus Rift had a baby. And just like Vive, your my favorite VR RU-vid channel. :)
@SadlyItsBradley
@SadlyItsBradley 8 лет назад
+MCD456 Aw, thank you!
@itzspencerr1403
@itzspencerr1403 8 лет назад
+Brad Lynch your welcome bruh. :D
@TheTonVeron
@TheTonVeron 8 лет назад
If you were to put the single lighthouse on the ceiling and facing down, will it work?
@wildcatz123
@wildcatz123 4 года назад
I'm buying one base with my headset because I only plan and using it for head-tracking for Flying/Driving simulators. Hopefully it does the trick! I'll know in a couple of days if anyone else is curious.
@toothpickwilly
@toothpickwilly 3 года назад
Hey there, I'm curious if this worked out for you. I'm looking at only playing racing sims in VR, so I think I can get away with one base station and possibly zero controllers. How has it worked out for you?
@ns2lovegaming342
@ns2lovegaming342 3 года назад
@@toothpickwilly Hey there, I ended up having a very good experience using only one station. Setting up was a little more tricky however as it needs to be in a spot that will track your head without greying out. With my HTC Vive I only greyed out for a few seconds here or there when looking almost all the way behind me. Some Rifts even just come with one sensor. For seated gameplay you should be just fine. I didn't have controllers either, though you may want to use an Xbox styled controller or steering wheel for navigating through menu's and such. Hope this helped and happy racing!
@toothpickwilly
@toothpickwilly 3 года назад
@@ns2lovegaming342 Thank you! Yeah, I have a wheel with plenty of buttons that I already use to navigate the menus. I was mostly curious if you could actually launch the game without a VR controller, and it sounds like you can. So perfect, thank you!
@HouseOwl
@HouseOwl 3 года назад
One Base Station Can See Thru A Twig.. But Try A Log Next Time
@WisconsinVolleyballTeam
@WisconsinVolleyballTeam 8 лет назад
try it where the lighthouse are right beside eachother
@SadlyItsBradley
@SadlyItsBradley 8 лет назад
+tfire2 GAMING Shhhhhh. You're giving away what I'm doing for my next and final lighthouse video ;)
@HK-cq6yf
@HK-cq6yf 8 лет назад
+Brad Lynch In your next video, can you test controller occlusion with one light house vs two in front? For example, setup one lighthouse and put one controller behind the other from the lighthouse's perspective and see if you have tracking issues.
@WisconsinVolleyballTeam
@WisconsinVolleyballTeam 8 лет назад
***** ok :)
@gamingkeepstudios3504
@gamingkeepstudios3504 8 лет назад
shows how screwed oculus is even if they add touch since when u turn around by screen lol
@bamabruno6926
@bamabruno6926 6 лет назад
Gaming KeepTv Get one more oculus tracker. 3 oculus sensors is exactly like the HTC, 360 tracking and amazing controllers. Trust me. Oculus is better
@questreality8262
@questreality8262 4 года назад
This didn’t age that well
@samelimfield1183
@samelimfield1183 2 года назад
i did it and i could turn 360 degrees
@DerSolinski
@DerSolinski 7 лет назад
To clarify some stuff: Lighthouse-> really stupid box which is then used to correct any drift the controllers IMUs might have. And the reason to put them high above ground is the same reason why you don't have your main light source for the room lighting on the floor you don't see much. (that and the fire hazard, well with LED's doesn't matter much nowadays)
@jorenminer8817
@jorenminer8817 7 лет назад
Self driving car-> really stupid car with stupid lidar box really stupid unix computer box
@revenger681
@revenger681 8 лет назад
Nice, so 1 lighthouse may be perfect for seated play.
@casualfreediving8780
@casualfreediving8780 8 лет назад
Like the oculus have.
@lifelesshawk5725
@lifelesshawk5725 5 лет назад
Just put the base station on the ceiling.
@MulleDK19
@MulleDK19 8 лет назад
Cool. Although, 0:10, the lighthouses contain Class 3B lasers. which probably is why the manual says to not get within 20 cm of them, to avoid the radiation. (At greater distances, you're only exposed to Class 1 radiation, which is safe).
@charlesdening5967
@charlesdening5967 5 лет назад
so its basicaly psvr at that point
@ste4mzmylastname701
@ste4mzmylastname701 3 года назад
Did he coom
@JohnDoe-in3ep
@JohnDoe-in3ep Год назад
Sorry but cringe
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