Many thanks again to Micha for the great lap and the fantastic driving skills. And sorry for the people that I didn't speak that much, but it's because my English isn't that good, forgive me hehe. Also sorry for the chewing gum in the video, it was a busy day for me and I was a little nervous, maybe Micha can edit the video and make my face unrecognizable 🤣
@@PrepaidKarma i mean the S2000 was a nice car, nice seats and steering and i like the Spoon wheels etc. but would be cool to see a track tuned one with serious tires and a bit aero (like hardtop and flat underbody)
exactly, a proper figured out track prepped S2000 would be a great vid and a proper representation of what this platform is capable of when fine tuned for the track. We know from the Best Motoring videos that it's one of the most capable FR platforms out of Japan, particularly it's handling and grip.
High revving engines were made for a reason - to extract more power. You don't need that simply anymore as turbos are so advanced today and it wasn't ever easy and cost effective to design high rpm engine..
@@skrypkaduh. But the problem is that makes lazy, low rpm engines that all sound the same. The experience of a high rpm NA engine is so much better in a driver’s car.
You shouldn't need 255 square at this weight and power level. Just adding mass and drag at that point. I'd rather 225 and a bit of movement on the limit, where the fun lies.
Square american brain.... Thinner front wheel help you to put the car where you want while wider rears give you more traction to exit the corners faster
F20C does actually have decent torque for a naturally aspirated 2.0, more than 100 Nm/l . S2000s are heavy for what they are, though. They go up to 1380 kg stock, which is 355 kg heavier than a 2.0 ND! If those are real Spoon wheels, those are under 6 kg each, that would help with acceleration too! I'd rather go for a tire with a stiffer side wall. In 205/55R16 you could go for an Advan A052.
After owning an s2000 I honestly feel the chassis is great, the only mods other than suspension would be to add a supercharger. Just a bit more torque and a bit more power (nothing crazy, just 300 -350) and it would be the perfect track car.
Like "Engineering Explained" with his yellow Honda S2000? If you’re not familiar m check him out. He put a Supercharger some years ago on it. Selling it on "Cars and Bids" (in double t-shirt guy’s voice) as we speak.
I have an M3 CS ‘24 and an Honda S2000 AP1 ‘00.. stock and very low milage. This is my second s2k and I’m still in love with this car. Well, the M3 is a great car, but nothing makes me so happy like the S2k. You cannot find a car with 170000 kM that revs consistently to 9000 rpm
The s2000 actually had faster cornering speeds than the NSX type S when they were both new being tested on the ring. I really think they are such a perfect car in all forms for the ultimate driving experience, especially on track. And that’s why I’m glad I own one myself and will be bringing mine to the ring next year 👌
Not this one. I am very surprised those Bmw passed him in the technical section. Those tires are not the right thing or he didn't trusted the car enough
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Not a word was spoken.... but that gave me the chance to listen to that engine sing. Only... that stuff dangling on the mirror would have driven me crazy!
0:22 *Pilot Sport 4 - not the 4S Would be interesting to know whether he is using the USDM ECU or the EUDM one. I've heard there are people running the EU AP1 ECU on the F22 to push the 2.2L towards 9k redline.
@niikon I use the F22C ECU. In the beginning I used the F20C ECU for a short time, it revs up to 9000rpm without any problems, but in the long run you risk engine damage. But many people in the USA constantly drive around with the combination 🤷
Most of these cars crashed, because the tires are verry important on this car. i had 2 of them and know what i say. Its not so easy to drive with 50:50 weight. AD08R id used :D
Original tires from the factory were the best. I tried about 10; types of other tires and could not beat those lap times . Most regular tires were very dangerous .
Mine too, but i’m also happy with my 245 square setup, just made the rollbars in front a bit harder and it feels very well balanced with slight oversteer tendencies but yea you have to be quick when the rear steps out
Very nice lap! This one defintely is driving better, although still needs to rev to make power. I think the actual torque difference between the two is only an extra 5 lb-ft.
Viva la Honda! This is the perfect car to learn how to line up corners, drive the circuit and have fun w/o shooting your feet. IMO If he goes to 17 wheels, the car will not be as comfortable as daily driver.
same tires (ps4 not ps4s!) like the previous stock one but seems more stable this time maybe from better suspension setup! you really need to find one with 17/18'' trackday wheel tire combo, coilovers, shorter final drive and some basic tuning (intake,exhaust,ecu,track allignment) you will love it.
But they are horrible wheels even if you do change the title 😂. Sick S2000 thankyou for the video, wheels aside (who am I to judge taste) it does look like an epic drive.
Honda S2k. Loooved em. Very nice car. We have the Fa20 here in Aus and that vtec technology is just awesome. Took me 6 years to find the petrol popper though.
Stimmt.Die alten V Tech die konnte man drehen,drehen lassen ohne Ende.Keine Ahnung wie viel Ps der S 2000 hat,denke so 200-230 wird es schon sein,und kein Gewicht.Wie die neuen gehen keine Ahnung.😀😀
from personal experience I think that a sidewall height (rim to contact surface) of 11cm is good for comfort and 9cm is good for performance. am I right or completely wrong?
When my dad was in college , he got himself an MG-B vert and loved it ( orange , chrome package , black interior ) . when he graduated and moved back home, the wheels got stolen 3x and the 3rd time, the insurance company made him sell the car because they didn't want to deal with it anymore. i guess the old spoke wheels at the time were almost the cost of 1/2 the price of the car once they were brought over from europe and had tires mounted . when the 2000 S2k was coming out he said it was the closest thing to having the MG back . didn't like the benz or porsche offerings . he got on the list to buy one in 98 ant took delivery i think september 99 . and was the 14th person to get one in the US . he sold it in 2006/7 . one of few cars we had in the family that we regret selling.
Since the original F20C engine had engine damage, an F22C year 2004 came in. You really notice the difference, especially in the lower range, unfortunately it doesn't rev up to 9000rpm but you don't notice that soo much. For me personally the F22C runs better, but I also have a few mods like exhaust and intake.
@@Ivo-S2000 Great story. I did a double take when I saw the title of this video. I wonder how that 2004 AP2 car wound up over there. Are you running the AP2 transmission as well?
@@VirtualGuth i running a Ap1 Transmission with a Ap1 Differential. I Heard thats the best Combination, and an Ap2 transmission should be very good for the F20C.
I don’t know why people who drive light weight cars who want to experience maximum performance tag along a extra passenger in them. The S2000 manual states that the car should not have occupants that weigh more than 400 pounds combined. This car does not perform well with two occupants…. PERIOD.
Seems to have more torque on uphill section, and Misha's facial expression on the carousel were funny. 😂😂 Definitely could have 17-inch wheels & opt for even better tires!
@@mrbawkbegawks the michelins have softer sidewalls (they are still good tires) a Yokohama AD08R (now AD09) for example was a great tire forthe S and you could daily it, just didn't have the same level of wet grip as the Michelin. I had the Michelin Pilot Super Sport on the S, the michelin is a good choice but if you are more focused on track then a stiffer sidewall is recommended.
Misha, I wonder if it’s possible for you to test a subscribers car to see what to improve ? if yes how can we get in contact. Mine is a 2002 K24 turbo MR2
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He pushes it up near the rev limiter at 8200 RPM. As noted in the title of the video, this car has the larger F22C1 engine. That's why the driver is talking about the car making better power and torque than the past S2000's he's driven. The car's owner has noted elsewhere in these comments that he replaced the original AP1 engine with the engine from an American AP2 car, thus the rev limiter kicking in 800 RPM earlier.
When Kurosawa drove on Ring he had 205/5016 and 225/50/16. Potenza S02 made in Japan wich Germans are calling Porsche tires.😅 Best street tires ever made for this car. Perfect compromise between grip and cornering speed . Sidewall and contact patch is totally different than other street tires in the same size .That setup for the front is much better than 205/55 even if doesn't seems such a drastic change Anyway 17 wheels are surely better. And F20C is just as good with the right amount of air. But i only drove F20C2 which is an evolution of original engine also paired with revised gearbox
