Vulcan's Influence on Starfleet: Early Federation 

I still love the Vulcans coming up with the reasons for the federation capital being on Earth - a combination of nobody having old animosities with humans & it making the crazy humans happy. Can't remember if beta canon.

you know one take i did enjoy from Enterprise, Vulcans seeing themselves in humanity and so fear them. Both were passionate and warlike races who nuked themselves and built a better world from the ashes, but then humans didn't suppressed their emotions and moved far quicker.

The post-first-contact behavior of the Vulcans always fascinated (ha!) me from an international relations perspective. Like, they find a species digging themselves out of a post-nuclear hole, one not too dissimilar to the one that left one of the greatest cultural scars on the Vulcan psyche. Except here, instead of throwing themselves into logic to cool their passions, humanity is determined to learn *absolutely nothing* from it. To the Vulcan High Command and probably the Foreign Ministry, they've got a terrifying situation on their hands. If they don't play their cards right, they're liable to have, at best, another Andoria on their hands in short order. So what do the Vulcans do? Toss billions of space bucks into a crash development program that turns Earth into a semi-colonial protectorate, which lets them "guide" (read: slow down) their technological development. Humanity, pushy upstarts as ever (and not too dissimilar to humanity in Mass Effect), immediately chafed at this arrangement. As soon as humans built the Warp 5 ship and found the Andorians, they'd had found a huge gift diplomatically: a rival power they were more similar to culturally who they could use any time Vulcan tried to yank the imperial patron chain.

Live long and prosper

I read something to the effect that Vulcan purposely let the federation look like a human invention. Nothing is more dangerous than sitting on the throne, so to speak.

I would love to see an alternate timeline were the Andorians are our first contact.

Rick: mentions Vulcans or Romulans Me: all ears

Vulcan's biggest contribution was introducing ritualized dance parties which are still conducted on Risa. If at all possible please cover the summer event.

I'm still pissed, that we could've had the Romulan war instead of that stupid finale!

Would like this but from the Andorian point of view had a soft spot for the andorians since enterprise and enjoyed the way their played out on the series

I'm so early, First Contact hasn't happened yet.

The fourth founding member; Tellar, lacks a lot of lore.

"I'm sure it has nothing to do with the ease of applying the prosthetics." Try telling Nimoy how "easy" it was getting those ears done every day. At one point he was actually considering a suggestion to get plastic surgery that Roddenberry had made in jest.

I love binging your personnel files

I'd like to see more detail about the life of Zefram Cochrane especially his early adulthood and childhood.

It's about as hot as Vulcan in the UK right now, but at least I can melt with Rick. Thanks dude!

I like how just as I've started to Rewatch Enterprise, Rick does a early Star trek lore video lol

Enterprise was a decent show, and it provided a lot of relevant background on the series. Most of the things worked really well. The more they were willing do to their own thing, or at least get creative with the races of the other series, the better the show worked. The irony is that, we know more about the Vulcans from Enterprise than from every series before hand, and it never felt retconned (most of the time). While I loved the fact that the ship felt like it could almost never keep up with the other species, which is a huge plus, I would have preferred the Enterprise design on The Motion Picture wall.

CI: tries to film background shots in STO The other players in the background: I AM SPEEED

Oh, gonna enjoy this series as I liked ENT when it was on TV and recently got the complete series on DVD so I can watch episodes I missed and also a chance for the wife to watch (she's seen TNG and DS9). Earth-Romulan War is gonna be of particular interest for me, though maybe a breakdown of pre-Federation Starfleet vessels?

I'd like a video on what Earth/Humans added to the mix - what technology etc did humans invent that Vulcans used etc etc.

I'd like to see the Andorian's influence on Humanity, done in this way. Also a talk on Axanar which one fits the prime universe better, Axanar or the one we were told about in Discovery. In my head cannon I'd would be a stanch supporter of Axanar as told by the prelude because it fits while Discovery's has way too many holes in it. The other species like the Tellerites and others would be good as well.

I heard someone make the case that one of the main points of Star Trek was that interference is necessary. The series took place after WWII, and thoughts then by most were America's isolationism was a factor in WWI and WWII. These thoughts contributed to America jumping into every conflict it could in the latter half of the 20th Century.

I didn't know that Vulcans had only been space faring for only 350 years before First Contact. Considering vulcan lifespan and their slow, cautious nature, that's not all that long.

3:31 Within the narrative, it suddenly makes aliens being wary of humans a bloody lot more sense.

This was a very interesting video! Thank you putting this together. Very enjoyable! 😀

I like your new series topic Rick. I'm looking forward to more instalments.

Excellent video, thanks. I'm fascinated by the evolution of the relationship between humans and Vulcans...

My favorite Vulcan is T"Pol, Jolene Blalock, I'm not sure of the spelling on her last name but you get the idea

amazing video!thank you for sharing with us ❤

Great idea for a video. And great video.

I love this era and to know more can’t wait

I watch all your videos, but I must say this one was very interesting 👏👏👏

Fantastic video!

Another fun video, thanks! How about something on Starfleet Academy? Whatever history, structure, curriculum, etc. can be dug up?

I really wish I got to see more early Romulan/Starfleet stuff. Enterprise ended just short of it all kicking off and I actually liked Enterprise. I even bought that horribly ugly miracle worker ship in STO just because it was the Tucker class/variant lol.

I love your videos so much we are blessed to have you on this earth

3:35 and I'm picturing the 1951 movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still" in my mind.

What prosthetics had you in mind? T’Pol’s on the chest? Or Spock’s on the ears?

A lot of people used to hate how Vulcans were portrayed in “Enterprise.” As someone who grew up on TOS onward, I considered the portrayal spot on. People have often confused the moralities of Spock and Tuvok as representative of all Vulcans-the idea that no Vulcan can do any wrong. That means that they weren’t paying attention to all the many Vulcan a-holes presented throughout Trek canon, ranging from T’Pring to that Vulcan captain who wanted to beat Sisko in baseball to even a Vulcan serial killer. Vulcans have a rather ugly racist tendency to look down upon races it considers inferior such as humans-and well, most other races. I thought it was rather fascinating and fitting to see Vulcan portrayed as a quasi-imperial power bordering on fascist. A kind of Romulan-lite in which Earth was very much a puppet government under the thumb of the High Command. After all, pure cold logic in the absence of morality is very dangerous indeed. In fact, I was slightly disappointed that Administrator Vlas was revealed to be a Romulan spy, simply because that felt like a bit of a copout. But Vulcans and Bajorans are my two favorite species because they ARE both so complex. There not one size fits all. They are made up of INDIVIDUALS, some moral, some villainous, some sane, some not. And that’s how it should be.

Love these videos

Excellent video! Liked, and subscribed. Personally I'm quite the Trekkie, the pre-Federation era, particularly the Earth Romulan War is my favorite. Along with the Daedalus Class being my favorite starship class. Along with the Olympic Class. They're just such different starship designs, and both were perfectly capable in their own time. It's just a shame neither starship class nor as much as could have been of the pre-Federation era have really ever gotten as much screen time as they probably could have considering their importance to the historical timeline of the franchise. I have always been interested in learning more about the more primitive weapons used in the Earth Romulan War should you ever do a video covering the topic.

This should be pointed out how much Vulcans needed us? Every show having a Vulcan, Vulcans are just as much explores as humans.

Actually from what I understand from captain archer and the early enterprise was that the Vulcans were deliberately stalling the war program because they said the earth was not ready to venture out of our own solar system so the Vulcans have had their way installing all advancements by the human race according to what captain archer mentioned and it was captain archer who is instrumental in creating the Federation by getting everybody together in one place to start the talks in the creation of the Federation because at the end of the series they showed archer and some of the crew watching the signing of the documents starting the Federation with the few allies so far that they had at the time and they were a pivotable pivotal part of actually getting everyone together Captain archer also had no trust in the Balkans because he had always seen him as keeping secrets but they were one of the participants informing of the Federation of planets not an actual contributor to starting it but actually joining the United Federation of planets because earth had always been wary of the Vulcans because of their slowing the project of warp drive down to where a lot of people have not trusted the Romulans and they went through and did the warp five anyways correction Vulcans and the first encounter they had with the Romulans was not knowing where their board was and running into one of their minds and having it attach to the whole of the enterprise and two crewmembers had ventured outside to try and disengage it from the hall and one of the legs speared right through Accruent leg so they had to put a shielding between the crewman and the mine and releasing the boat the bulkhead plate a plate of the outer hole correction hole

That view of Utopia Planitia was gorgeous

Absolutely love that last comment about prosthetics 😊

This video is satisfactory.

Fascinating information.

I'd be interested to see how the early civilian-sector interstellar looked before starfleet was fully codeified and even afterwards. What trade was going on? Were there companies that engaged in it? Did we trade cultural nick-nacks as we moved away from money systems completely? Do any of these companies still stand? We know there are civilian industries as of DS9, as there are traders and the like. Or to put it shortly: What's life like for a non-starfleet spacefarer in the federation throughout the eras?

I would love to see a general history of the AlphaQ. pre-human power, the events that setup the stage for how things were when humans became a space civilization.

Great vid. I like a lot of what I saw in the Enterprise series. Thanks for including in in your version of "cannon," and hopefully you wont include the "Disco/Kelvin" timeline.

It would be interesting in that next episode if you could address the territorial distances involved. It seems in enterprise the romulans were rather close by but by tng they were far away.

Talking about the united earth space probe agency would be kind of cool :D or maybe tractor beam tech vs cables.

4:01, T’pol is my favorite Sciece officer

I haven’t watched Enterprise (I have, in fact, watched very little Star Trek in my life) but learning about the lore that it added to the franchise, it sounds like the writers were very passionate about Star Trek and wanted to do a good job of depicting Humanity’s first steps into the Galactic community.

Great Video! One question though, what did you say at the end? Was it Vulcan for Live Long and Prosper?

Thank you that was very interesting

Very well done, I do think the introduction of the Romulan race from the mind of Gene Roddenberry as a great thing. It was one of the reason why it drew people to it. I often wondered why the eight main characters that are in TOS are called the main crew? When I watch the TOS I see many time the MAIN CREW are not in the episode and their positions are played by actors I did not know. So I wonder how main episodes each actor was in and who has the lest and most, YES Kirk and Spock are the most, Just wondering.

Peace and long life. Thanks Rick.

I love your videos

Talk about the Man-Kzin Wars and how they probably went in Star Trek.

Fun video - how about details on the handphaser?

It would be good to learn more about the other species at the table when Archer speaks.

We seen you do the Green Lantern's and Sinestro Corps lanterns but what about the other lanterns are you planning to do those or not

I always suspected the Vulcans saw something humanity that would allow us to become great ally's and also to handle the Romulans. Part of the reason they were a little hands off is they wanted humanity to be humanity.

I love when "UFP" is used shorthand like in some DS9 episodes.

You should do a video about the Caitian and Kzinti... I mean the Feresean. Yes, Fereseans. Totally not talking about the Kzinti. Or their pink space suits. Then again, the Klingons loved their pink and purple armor during that time too. Yup. And Pink Tribbles. There was a lot of pink during that time of space. travel.

Vulcans are the coolest!

Speaking of the Romulans, I'd like to hear your observations about the Earth-Romulan War.

I would like to know what happens to the xindi after the earth/xindi war and the delphech expanse

T'pol hotness is the best of Vulcan contributions to humanity!

How about The Klingon impact they were one of the first missions for Starfleet and also what about Section 31's influence.

Will this be primarily sourced from Enterprise, or include information from other entries in the series (novels, tech books, that kind of thing) as well?

3:00 "Shut it down! Shut it down!" "It's...It's...It's not shutting down!"

Topic: what happened to the Vulcan ships seen in this video? their designs i mean, did they just give up on their ship types at some point and take up Earth designs?

Correction on the Warp 7 engine; the Coalition of Planets and the Romulans were working towards the Warp 7 engine in 2155 (Star Trek Enterprise: The Good That Men Do (2007). Therefore the Vulcans didn’t have a Warp 7 engine when they had first contact with humans and even when the NX-01 was launched.

I'd like an episode about the geography of the Trek version of the Milky Way - where are all the planets relative to eachother, how far are they apart, where are the borders etc.

As a ships guy, I *would have* preferred some time with human ships having the ring-ship configuration (a la that earlier Enterprise in canon) during some show - probably ST: Enterprise. That similarity to Vulcan tech would've given another layer of camaraderie. And then how interesting for humans to come up with that twin nacelles design, an innovation improving on warp systems again in shorter time than imaginable to Vulcans.

What sources cover Earth in the early years after the warp drive was invented?

Vulcans had warp flight for 350 years and barely were TOS levels of tech by the TOS. Most other races had similar situations. Humans had warp flight for less than 300 years and went from warp 0.5 to get to the moon to warp 9 TNG, DS9, and Voyager levels of tech. Also Vulcans went from being the most technologically advanced to sharing in the advancements of humanity. I think they are super intelligent, but their focus on logic limited their ability to improvise and dream of bigger things. They needed external sources of data and input in order to process new things, which is why humanity and vulcans became such an amazing combination.

Another great thing about non-interfearence, it made having the Andorians and the Vulcans in the same polity actually possible.

We need Star Trek Vulcan

you should make a cultuarl index on the ocampa

Can you talk about T'pol?I love this character.

I can't wait for the day when prosthetics tech is advanced enough to where we can get vulcans, tellarites, and andorians in equal measure for Starfleet crews. It would be great to see all the founding members in equal number aboard a ship.

The Romulan version of social distancing focused on antagonising the Andorians to prevent the Vulcans from polluting Romulan culture with Vulcan philosophy.

Question : considering that the prime directive only applies to star fleet officers and not Federation citizen what exactly stops a federation citizen from Simply taking over a less developed planet and doing whatever they want? I mean, aside from the fact that Starfleet seems to own most of the Cutting Edge technology. And how exactly would a private citizen of the Federation explore space without joining Starfleet or a neighboring superpower? Aside from, I guess, working for a Ferengi and earning enough Platinum to buy a vessel.

OK something I've always wondered was why is Starfleet based out of San Fransisco?

What struck me as odd about the human and Vulcan warp programs: at the time of Enterprise 7 was the top warp speed, but why cal it seven? I'm sure the Vulcans knew warp 10 was infinite velocity, but why label their next best speed 3 tiers below that? It should have been warp 9.

The Vulcan are cool

I felt it would have been cooler if the Andorians were the ones that made first contact with humanity.

Peace and long life

I did love Enterprise, even though it was kind of a mess sometimes. It's a tragedy we didnt get to see more of the coalition and early federation.

Can we have one on Humans? Or did I miss it somewhere?

I'd like to know more about the human worlds next door i. e. Moon, Mars or Alpha Centauri. But them I'm afraid that the alpha canon has not much to say about it, isn't it?

Great content just work your way through the whole timeline please so I have more to watch lol

Even as an 8 year old running home after school to watch Star Trek at 4 pm, I never understood WHY the Vulcans were older and more advanced than humans, but humans developed space technology and exploration so much more quickly...

Not really has been ever shown about earlier warp vessels, with warp 2 3 or 4. some centuries are just missing from the series

I really do like Star Trek Enterprise and it's a favorite of mine. However, I was a little disappointed in the direction the show went. I felt the writers had the crew of the NX-01 run into certain aliens too early. I can see them socializing with the Vulcans, because they are closer to humans and they assisted humans with space travel development. The crew of the NX-01 ran into the Klingons, Ferengi and Andorians way too early in the series. I expected Star Trek Enterprise to be focused mainly on exploration of unknown planets, ancient alien ships, space phenomena, ancient alien technology and even time travel at least for the first 3 seasons of STE. Instead, in the first season they are introduced to the cold war and Klingons. The second season they encounter the Ferengi and Andorians. These events led the show into becoming an equivalent to Star Trek Voyager and Star Trek DS9. Star Trek Enterprise quickly left exploration of the unknown which would have kept the show interesting. Instead, it became 24TH Century space war Star Trek, which made the show a much more familiar type of show when you compare it to the mood of Star Trek Voyager and Star Trek DS9.

I'm much more fond of the alternate timeline where Ambassador Shran and Admiral Archer high five each other in between campaigns of expanding the Terran-Andorian Empire and berating those pointy-eared hobgoblins.