VW ID3 vs MG ZS EV: More closely matched than you might think... 

Seriously, you need to drive the ID3 rather than knock it because you own the MG ? Clearly the MG is designed and built to a price point, thus making it cheaper. Let’s take the drive for example . My comparator is the Golf which is acknowledged as the class leader for drive experience where fossil fuel family cars go, however the drive on the ID3 is on another planet, supported by proper old school rear wheel drive. Even though it possible to do 0-60 in 5.8 seconds I have yet to spin the rears. The road holding is equally good.The version shown is acknowledged as the eco plodder of the range, thankfully no more. My model is Family which has everything the MG has and much much more. Yes at a greater price of course but residuals would be far far higher. Rather than knock the ID, I suggest you actually drive one. It’s an absolutely great car , so much in demand the used car market is nuts. Mint low mileage , circa 10k like mine with 16 months on its back are on forecourt’s for £7-8k more than I paid. It’s been absolutely faultless. Try before knocking perhaps.

WHAT...? You ditched the VW Golf R for an Austin A35...??? Oh well, I suppose it kinda matches up with your Morris Minor, doesn't it.. 😉

I have an ID.3 and it's absolutely brilliant!

I start the AC, heated seats and demisters in my ID3 just as i get out of the shower in the morning, usually get to it and the wheel is just about warm....quite nice compared to my archaic 2015 GTi Performance edition.

@@jonathantaylor1998 😂😂

But have you driven both cars?

@@sssssneaker No, just the MG tbh

Of course it’s biased they need to justify the ridiculous prices compared to what you get from MG, 95% of these channels are the same; try watching an honest view like electric vehicle man 👍

@@keithn1 I do watch EVM actually Keith. I'd been toying with going with the MG ZS EV, but we simply don't do enough miles to justify the expense, despite diesel getting towards £2 per litre. Going to wait until 2024-25 I think lol

@@stuartburns8657 agree with that too, simply don’t do enough miles to warrant the expense may 3 -4 years will be better

Craig O 0 seconds ago Fake MG, not really MG. China are slowly hollowing out western companies and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually empty out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. By buying a Chinese car, unlike any other purchase, you are directly supporting a Chinese Communist Party owned company. All car companies in China are directly or indirectly owned by the CCP. You are supporting CCP design, technology, and engineering. China are a self proclaimed enemy of western democracy and free people, that may sound like hyperbole but it is manifestly true. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is and will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. It is an innate need for all empires/civilisations to spread their model. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, you are wrong. China will slowly tighten their grip on democracy, it is already starting to happen, they constantly require other nations to limit their speech. On the current course, in the not too distant future, your government will be controlled by China, directly or indirectly, you will not be allowed to change your government, and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question these decisions. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China forcibly sterilised and aborted their own women in the 80's, dragged them in to horrific surgeries, now the Uyghurs are being subjected to the same treatment.

Thanks for sharing. I agree the MG seems much better value for what you get at the price. One question tho, mg website states trophy Lr is 33k approx? How or where did you manage to get 28k If you don’t mind me asking? That price would make it qualify for gov grant whereas the offfical price is above threshold and thus does not qualify (unless you step down to the trophy without long range). Thanks.

@@lokiodinson4804 I ordered just before the government grant limit reduced, plus a bit of negotiation (discount, spare wheel, dashcam installed, V2L adaptor), plus finance (which we will pay off directly) contribution of £1,500 at the time. The MG have put up the price of the car a bit. Still haven't got the darned thing yet though. But - when we do, I think it will have about £5K instant upside due to all of the above and fact there's no stock anywhere. Actually we might sell it on delivery, as we don't strictly need it (I have extended a lease on my Tesla M3P).

The battery won't last 7 yrs 😂

​@@seanscott1580 Yes it will.

they also compared the barebone VW with the full option MG. If you add on all the MG options to the VW the price difference is €12.000. I have driven both and the MG wins it hands down. Also not to forget the maintenance is with VW every year and the MG every 2 years. VW costs €450 MG only does a visual inspection and interior filter change vor €199....

Ioniq 5 is about 15k more no?

@@jamesbutler606 depends on the model and spec.

How long have you been waiting? (if you don’t mind me asking!). I ordered mine in July 2021 and I’m still waiting.

Felt the same mate. I think VW paid her off haha. Can't think of anything else. I tried both out and the VW is absolutely awful. It's like a cheap car with a nice badge. MG is the new kid in town with all the tech and specs you could ever want for under 30k.

I totally agree, looks like VW has paid them for this as MG car sales are off the roof, undoubtedly it is a bios review. Unfair to be honest.

I guess MG didn’t spend any on marketing and pass the saving to the cutomer

@@timyang4812 and didn't pay people off to say their car is premium haha.

Craig O 0 seconds ago Fake MG, not really MG. China are slowly hollowing out western companies and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually empty out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. By buying a Chinese car, unlike any other purchase, you are directly supporting a Chinese Communist Party owned company. All car companies in China are directly or indirectly owned by the CCP. You are supporting CCP design, technology, and engineering. China are a self proclaimed enemy of western democracy and free people, that may sound like hyperbole but it is manifestly true. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is and will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. It is an innate need for all empires/civilisations to spread their model. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, you are wrong. China will slowly tighten their grip on democracy, it is already starting to happen, they constantly require other nations to limit their speech. On the current course, in the not too distant future, your government will be controlled by China, directly or indirectly, you will not be allowed to change your government, and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question these decisions. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China forcibly sterilised and aborted their own women in the 80's, dragged them in to horrific surgeries, now the Uyghurs are being subjected to the same treatment.

I understand about the long wait time but that isn’t VW fault. I wonder if you’re right about outdated tech though as the ID.3 can receive over the air software updates as they’re released. That should help surely? 🤷🏻‍♀️

DS is so frenchy luxury interior 😍

I'm on my second i3, this time the i3S with the "largest' batter that i will get this week or perhaps the next week. reason is I got a 12 month lease deal of only €220/month. but now i need to order a new car since delivery times is ranging from 3 months to 18 months depending on which EV i want next... I'm lost 😭 Marvel R fully loaded is actually cheaper than ID.3 but I'm not sure i will like that enormous display... help a lost man 😂🙏🏻

@@_TrueDesire_ My current i3 has the 120 battery, I get 180 miles in the winter & 200 miles in summer. My BMW dealer said that the i3 production is sold out till manufacture stops end of June. You may have to hunt for a i3. I went DS for my replacement because it is the same Barrett’s dealer group. Excellent personal service is why I stayed with them for the next car. Throw in a fair p/x, similar range and 12 weeks delivery made it a no brain decision. Barretts DS are excellent at customer information.

@@andrewroberts5750 I have a DS3 Crossback Performance Line +, absolutely excellent car in all ways, how do you find yours in comparison to an i3 or ID3?

@@jamielocke192 Jamie now had three weeks to compare the DS with the i3, quieter much better ride, very comfortable seats, not so chuckable as the i3, my wife thinks that is a good thing. Excellent dealer and fault free on delivery. A generation ahead of the i3..

If you spec the VW to the same lvl as the MG, you add another 15%+ to the cost..

@@stuartburns8657 definitely. If not more.

Agree - we bought in November. VW couldn't sell me an iD.3 under £35K and with less than an 18 month waiting list. I paid £28K for a ZS LR Trophy with additional front and rear dashcam fitted, spare wheel and the V2L adaptor. Even had both cars been the same price, all of our family preferred the MG. My main concern on buying the MG is funding the Chinese over our European colleagues (given very different working conditions and human rights) is something I think we should all be taking into account, as Ukraine has shown us. But then again, if I bought a Tesla, Polestar 2 or several other cars, it's likely they'd all be coming from China.

The ID.3 also has an adjustable floor which she didn’t mention either!!

@@StarLuna973 this ID3 actually doesn’t.

Most taxi drivers prefer the MG5

The MG does have the space but didn't utilise it. There's a RU-vid video of someone fixing their own frunk on the MG. Works really well.

Craig O 0 seconds ago Fake MG, not really MG. China are slowly hollowing out western companies and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually empty out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. By buying a Chinese car, unlike any other purchase, you are directly supporting a Chinese Communist Party owned company. All car companies in China are directly or indirectly owned by the CCP. You are supporting CCP design, technology, and engineering. China are a self proclaimed enemy of western democracy and free people, that may sound like hyperbole but it is manifestly true. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is and will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. It is an innate need for all empires/civilisations to spread their model. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, you are wrong. China will slowly tighten their grip on democracy, it is already starting to happen, they constantly require other nations to limit their speech. On the current course, in the not too distant future, your government will be controlled by China, directly or indirectly, you will not be allowed to change your government, and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question these decisions. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China forcibly sterilised and aborted their own women in the 80's, dragged them in to horrific surgeries, now the Uyghurs are being subjected to the same treatment.

But this is the point BMW for example were bought for the power trains. Now as an EV your paying 65k+ for what?. VW are actively reducing their entry level cars to focus of high end.

@@CJMVector321190 Short answer: I agree. Long answer, if you've got nothing better to do, as I clearly didn't when I wrote it: Don't get me started. I agree. For me, the engine is the heart of the car. For the most part a special car has a special engine. Of course, the likes of the Fast Fords make something special out of the ordinary, somehow managing to make cars greater than the sum of their parts. And there are the design icons like the E-Type, which we forget actually does have a 6cyl engine that was pretty special back in the day, and latterly of course the V12. Thankfully, few icons have a crappy engine, like the DeLorean. And values generally reflect rarity, although Covid seems to a have brought with it many thinking disorders, including paying over the top for almost everything, and it seems to be continuing with no end in sight. Anyway, as for EVs, the tech is very immature, and it's mainly about the battery tech rather than the motors, which can already deliver more power than the human body was designed to withstand. But, like in the early days of cellphones, it's the battery tech that needs to mature. We're at the equivalent of the brick phone stage where the batteries are big and heavy, take ages to charge and have short standby/talk times. Well, almost -- although the charge times have reduced significantly, and 'talk' times are now perfectly usable by most people, not just the early adopters, etc, etc, etc. ICE cars have long been overly digital, with the infotainment systems dating them and encouraging you to buy a new car more than anything else. For the most part you buy a perfectly good car with a computer that was out of date before you bought it. And when the computer becomes really outdated, you get rid of the car, and start the whole sorry process again. Even otherwise great cars are plagued by centre consoles with outdated infotainment and navigation systems that majorly detract from the emotional experience. But it's also fair to say that most regular ICE cars don't have characterful engines worth writing home about. And I have no problems with such engines being replaced by electric motors and fuel cells. There are real problems with ICE engine emissions in some city centres, caused by rush 'hour' traffic, which EVs can help resolve. BUT, there are also technologies, like stop-start and petrol particulate filters that haven't been allowed to make an impact before this rush to ditch ICE in favour of EVs and demonize ICE. Of course, it's not logical. It's all political. You could say, it's nonsense. But that nonsense is largely controlling destinies, unless something dramatically changes. like actually following real science, rather than fake science and the science of psyops. It's already an open secret that EVs don't actually save the planet, if indeed it needs saving, and that the likes of Ferraris, driven an average of somewhere between a few hundred and a few thousand miles a year aren't as polluting as the average human being, which is why there are now studies that encourage not breeding to save the planet, which is the true agenda...not saving the planet, but culling the human population by way of a multi-pronged attack and destroy strategy to achieve an elitist agenda. Anyway, EVs redistribute emissions, rather than reduce them. In fact, the manufacturing process creates massive emissions up front, which combines with dirty sources of electricity to destroy the EV myth, as, according to leading manufacturers like VW and Volvo, it takes up to 90,000 miles before an EV breaks even with an ICE car. And then there's the failure to appreciate that EVs aren't made with renewable raw materials. And also what we see playing out in the Russo-Ukrainian War; that countries that have refused to exploit their own energy deposits are at the mercy of those that do. And that if you don't expolit your own, but have no less requirement and instead import from somewhere else, you're not saving the planet, just redistributing the problem, and actually making it worse, by having less efficient, less regulated producers extract and refine, and then there's also the increased length of the supply lines, the environmental problems cause by pipelines, and of course container ships, which along with aeroplanes and trains actually constitute the vast majority of transport sector emissions, not cars, and not even the big diesel trucks. I said, don't get me started! Anyway, if you got here, the answer to what are we getting with EVs, with particular reference to powertrains, is the equivalent to shopping for vacuum cleaners...with possibly even less ability to stir the emotions. Of course, not all ICE engines stir the soul or bring about positive emotions, and I have no problem with consumers being given the choice of new technologies. The biggest problem is the fake agenda, the fake science, and the unnecessary, illogical, and self-harming demonization of ICE. And the problem stems from the removal of the distinction between environmentalism and climate alarmism. All we need is to promote environmental consciousness. There's no need for any science, least of all fake science. Most people want to live where it's clean and green. Most people don't, and those that do, see how it is as soon as they venture beyond their leafy suburbs. You don't need to create a false narrative. And you don't need to force people to adopt something new. If it is indeed better, the consumer will buy it without any coersion whatosever. And what do we get as a result of similar Government interventions? We have a national and European fleet of largely diesel vehicles, which Governments said were saintly to own. Now, they're not saintly anymore. Diesel is the devil's fuel, and anyone who owns a diesel is in league with the devil. As you can gather, my emotions are stirred, but not in any positive sense. And aural pleasures have largely been eradicated from new cars as a result of regulations. And the least of them is noise regulations, because they don't dictate the nature of the noise, only it's maximum volume, which if reasonable is actually no problem whatsoever. What are the aural pleasures of an EV? None? Not exactly. There's something to be said for the sound of silence. But they're not totally silent. Some motors whine more than others, but it's the road noise you end up hearing most, unless you have a sound generator turned on, piping in the sound of the Jetsons or Star Wars or similar, which soon gets old and annoying, just like the drone of an aftermarket exhaust on a boyracers ICE car. But car makers realise the great importance of the aural component, and are desperate to create synthetic sounds that will stir positive emotions. In fact, the very word, emotions, is increasingly found in automotive literature and advertisements! Anyway, is it possible to create synthetic sounds that will stir positive emotions? Anything is possible. But there are tastes that are largely universal, ie, shared by the majority, irrespective of gender, age, culture, etc, such as the love of a great internal combustion engine going through a tuned exhaust system, and the crescendo as the revs approach the red line. And then there are niche tastes, like the tastes for various musical genres. What I know is that it took decades to make a digital piano sound, feel and respond like the real thing. And some would say that it's still not been achieved and never will be. Yet, in that context, there are good reasons to try. Real pianos are big, heavy, costly, go out of tune, are affected by the weather, and you can't plug headphones into them, so they disturb others. Nonetheless, there's no substitute for the real thing. The challenge of EV makers is to generate new sounds that are universally appealing, not recreate the sounds of ICE by decades of digital sampling that would rival the sampling required to make a digital guitar. Nothing is impossible, but this has to be well up there with the least likely to happen. The world could lose something that has in fact been more postive in the history of humankind than most appreciate! It will be a sad day if all you can do is listen to an imperfect recording, with the impossibility of hearing it for oneself as a driver or passenger. And it would be without any good reason whatsoever! EVs are certainly not the answer. They are part of a mix, and should succeed or fail purely on market forces, not on the basis of Governmentmental force and nefarious agendas. Now, don't get me started on the price of new cars, EVs in particular, and the apparent turning of backs on ordinary consumers and volume profits in favour of high per unit profits from products aimed at the wealthy.

@@nigel.w good rant fella. Always appreciate someone prepared to put the time in to express their true feelings.

@@peterthomas144 Very kind. Thank you.

Totally agree. It has over the air updates as well. So room for improvements where it's needed.

the ID.3 does charge faster but that's it. the new ZS is IMO a much better choice, €100 less leasing cost per month and €15 less on insurance for me. i couldn't decide if i wanted a ZS or not but in the end my father bought one to supplement his Mustang cabriolet 👍🏻

tried both today. you are right, but when you drive both its another world to drive the ww and a lot is just so much better, rear cam, spakers, infotaiment, driving aspects etc

Craig O 0 seconds ago Fake MG, not really MG. China are slowly hollowing out western companies and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually empty out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. By buying a Chinese car, unlike any other purchase, you are directly supporting a Chinese Communist Party owned company. All car companies in China are directly or indirectly owned by the CCP. You are supporting CCP design, technology, and engineering. China are a self proclaimed enemy of western democracy and free people, that may sound like hyperbole but it is manifestly true. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is and will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. It is an innate need for all empires/civilisations to spread their model. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, you are wrong. China will slowly tighten their grip on democracy, it is already starting to happen, they constantly require other nations to limit their speech. On the current course, in the not too distant future, your government will be controlled by China, directly or indirectly, you will not be allowed to change your government, and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question these decisions. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China forcibly sterilised and aborted their own women in the 80's, dragged them in to horrific surgeries, now the Uyghurs are being subjected to the same treatment.

Software issues have been resolved.

@@mikejupp6040 since this review? If so that's good news.

@@whitemoor66 yep two updates since this review and the car is to undergo version 3.0 upgrade soon. Initial software had bugs and they were well documented and sadly that sticks in people's minds and colours their judgement. They also go on about the lack of buttons and switches and don't like the touch sensitive controls. Don't slide your fingers over them to make adjustments just tap.....works no probs for me.

I wish they would give an idea of when the MG Marvel R right hand drive is being released. Ordered the ZS EV for now no delivery date yet.

@@shaun159 The ZS EV might not be the most exciting car in the world but you certainly can't go far wrong with one. Were I in the market, the ZS and the MG5 would be the top of my (low budget) list.

Craig O 0 seconds ago Fake MG, not really MG. China are slowly hollowing out western companies and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually empty out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. By buying a Chinese car, unlike any other purchase, you are directly supporting a Chinese Communist Party owned company. All car companies in China are directly or indirectly owned by the CCP. You are supporting CCP design, technology, and engineering. China are a self proclaimed enemy of western democracy and free people, that may sound like hyperbole but it is manifestly true. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is and will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. It is an innate need for all empires/civilisations to spread their model. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, you are wrong. China will slowly tighten their grip on democracy, it is already starting to happen, they constantly require other nations to limit their speech. On the current course, in the not too distant future, your government will be controlled by China, directly or indirectly, you will not be allowed to change your government, and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question these decisions. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China forcibly sterilised and aborted their own women in the 80's, dragged them in to horrific surgeries, now the Uyghurs are being subjected to the same treatment.

Delivery’s are taking forever though ☹️

@@simonwillgress on both!

Same here.

I think the Chinese have no supply issues and MG is making its profits the traditional way, iie, by selling in volume. There's a long lead time on VW, and adding to that is the fact that EV technology is 'motoring' ahead at speed, and by the time a VW EV actually arrives on your driveway, the tech will be way more outdated than last year's smart phone. To me, it makes sense to dip one's toe into the EV world as cheaply as possible until the technology matures significantly more, or buy a Tesla for its network. And I must say that the Tesla Model 3 is almost a bargain compared to most of the new EV offerings, which by the time you add options, can easily be more expensive, and that's also where most of these reviews fall down, over like for like. By the time you spec the cars up with the likes of radar cruise, etc, you're spending in a different league altogether. The MG is fully spec'd at 33-34k, depending on deals (albeit slim), whereas by the time you spec up most of the similar offerings, you''re not at all close. That 10% difference the reviews/reviewers talk about is easily 30% by the time you spec it how you would actually want it. No matter how I spec a Skoda Enyaq, for instance, which is the darling of the car reviewers, I end up well past 40K, even past 45k.

@@nigel.w totally agree. I have come to the same exact conclusion. I think many people are doing loads of research and realizing the same thing. Heavy competition for the bigger brands.

Agree - we looked at both (and many others) and were able to order an MG ZS LR Trophy for £28K (back in November). In the end no comparison. The iD.3 looks better (IMO) and does drive better, but other than that there was no comparison for us. We knew lead time would be long (still haven't got the car), but VW wouldn't sell me an iD.3 model under £35K and were already saying 12 to 18 month waiting time (that was before Ukraine situation).

@@steveholliday1599 Thats crazy wait times. I hope I get mine by September, if not ill just have to wait longer haha. Chinese cars wait times is shorter from what I read online and Kia as they have stockpiled loads of those chips before the shortages happened.

They are so unreliable that they are the second or largest manufacturer of vehicles in the world, depending on when you look. People clearly love unreliable badly made cars in a free market economy.

I’ve owned a 5 yr old Polo for 2+ years now and it’s been faultless. If you always service and maintain your VW on time they’ll never let you down. Coming from someone who actually owns one 😅

@@reececollison5101 Seven year old Golf Tsi here. Had to replace the solenoid on the locking fuel cap. That's it. Nothing else. Also have a 2 year old Kia eNiro. As you rightly point out, serviced and maintained as intended, there are normally no problems. And I don't use a main dealer, but instead use my local village garage (established 40+ years ago, and still run by the original owner). His son looks after remaps and the whizz-bang stuff, he looks after the traditional stuff...... and both are certified to work on EV's.

Residual value? Longevity?

Did you get your car at the end? Or cancelled?

@@gintarasliksa4960 we did get one by chance after complaining heavily. Wasn’t the colour we ordered but snapped it up. It is a good car.

@Bolt electric⚡️ was thinking along that lines or wait until 2024 and buy outright a Renault 5e when it hits UK dealerships.

but in 3 to 4 years, there will be used examples of these cars around..... and they won't then cost £30k

@@Brian-om2hh Ah but will I still be driving in 3 to 4 years time - that is the question I am asking over long term - is it worth changing cars or best to wait till what I want comes to the UK, Renault 5e !!

also lied about the bhp aswel, they stated 154 for the MG when infact its 178Bhp

Totally agree. We have had loads of EVs over the years, but 6 months ago went out to buy a 'cheap' EV for my eldest son. We bought the MG ZS LR (having looked at Zoe, Id.3, Mini, e2008, Mocka-E, and a bunchg of other cars) but it was amazing how quickly you start to conclude that a Tesla Model 3 SR+ is a really great value EV and I couldn't believe how close we got to getting another one (we already have a Tesla Model 3 Performance and a BMW i3). I suspect if I took current depreciation of the MG ZS vs Tesla Model 3 into account, that financially the Model 3 probably would have made more sense, *and* we would have have had the Model 3 by now, whereas we are still waiting for the ZS!

Mmmm she did say the seats were PLEATHER

Good luck with that given they build most of the EVs on the market. Plus they build pretty much most of the tech and equipment you use everyday. 😆

MG is doing fantastically well actually

And when you know longer have that choice????

Diesel will always be an option how can a 20 ton truck run on battery impossible

@@user-we6fi9se3g Battery technology is always evolving. I have seen tests being done on electric HGV's. There is always alternatives such as hydrogen.

@@user-we6fi9se3g It´s not, we have a few running here in Northern Sweden.

@@user-we6fi9se3g so, when you need to replace your Merc, you're gonna get a 20 ton truck are you? Cool.