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VW T4 2.5TDi ACV glow plug relay problem 

Kevin Stewart
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There are many causes of starting problems with the VW T4 2.5TDi. The starting point is always to check the pump timing. You can do this either using a dial gauge or using VAGCOM (VCDS) and the TDi-timing graph.
In my case, the engine started well during warmer weather and the pump timing was correct. However, when the temperature dropped to below 10°C it became intermittent to start. Upon investigation I discovered that there was no 12V getting to the glow plugs. You will have to remove the front grill and lift the radiators into the service position to gain access to one of the glow plug connectors so that you can measure the supply getting to them.
I could feel the glow plug relay (103) clicking when the ignition was switched on. Pushing on the relay in different directions resulted in 12V arriving at the glow plugs. I therefore knew that there was a connection problem.
Pulling the relay out of the fuse panel revealed the contacts to the 2 large current carrying terminals. Using a small jeweller's screwdriver I found that the 2 pairs of terminals in the vertical slot could be moved easily. However, the 2 pairs in the horizontal slot could not be moved. I suspect that the heat generated at this terminal resulted in the contacts melting into the plastic. I used a small drill bit to make a couple of slots in the plastic above the contacts. I then used a small screwdriver and a hammer to break the contacts free of the plastic. I pushed the contacts so as to close the gap. I did the same to the top pair to make sure that they were also free to move.
There are some pictures of people taking the whole fuse box apart and then using some pliers to squeeze the contacts together. Whilst this is probably a better solution it comes with some level of risk.

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Комментарии : 17   
@cannaroe1213
@cannaroe1213 Год назад
We have the same car but WOW has the last 30 years been kinder on your car! What an inspiration :)
@bvqbvq
@bvqbvq Год назад
It has an easy life, it only does about 3500 miles per year and it is garaged. I've also tried to fix everything as breaks. It isn't perfect but it is certainly good for its age.
@allanroutledge1627
@allanroutledge1627 6 месяцев назад
Had the same problem with my 1.9 td, just followed your instructions, it's fixed the problem, thanks for posting this video..
@eekamoose
@eekamoose 11 месяцев назад
Well done for finding that fault - it wasn’t an easy one to spot. And thanks for posting the video! I have starting issues now that the weather is getting colder that I have never had before and I am just about to start faultfinding. You’ve given one potential cause that I would possibly never have found, if that’s what’s causing my problems.
@grahammclean7485
@grahammclean7485 Год назад
Was the glow plug light coming on
@bvqbvq
@bvqbvq Год назад
Yes it did and that fooled me for quite a while. See the discussion below, there is a link to the wiring diagram that may help you.
@hippydude1
@hippydude1 Год назад
Did your glow plug light come on when it was faulty?
@bvqbvq
@bvqbvq Год назад
Yes it did and that had me fooled for quite a while. I ended up spending time looking at other issues before I finally discovered that the glow plugs were not receiving any voltage while the light was on. I suspect that the light on the dash is driven from the ECU and not from the output of the relay.
@hippydude1
@hippydude1 Год назад
@@bvqbvq thanks mate. Im having a nightmare. My coil light wont come on and fault code, no power to ecu. Tried the 109 relay bypass but doing nothing. Will keep looking
@bvqbvq
@bvqbvq Год назад
@@hippydude1 I've put a copy of the engine wiring schematics here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Yp3J0nil4o2oxT9OKjTYRebR4a1WM37g?usp=sharing That should allow you to trace the supply to the ECU.
@hippydude1
@hippydude1 Год назад
@@bvqbvq thanks buddy. Will check it out
@hippydude1
@hippydude1 Год назад
@@bvqbvq i thought i would share my information with you. Long story short. It was a tiny black only wire. Couldn't find anything mentioning that anywhere. Ive the same engine as yours so if it happens to anyone else check that. Mine was broken near the rocker cover in the loom but it didn't look broken at all. Thanks
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