VZ 58 Bayonet Review BADLY FLAWED WEAPON 

This is the perfect example "Do not make videos about stuff you don't know" Sincerely, Czechoslovakian soldier.

1. It's a bayonet, it doesn't have to be forged... it is meant to be installed promptly into human flesh! (not processing firewood) 2. These are from parts kits & thus are not sharpened. It would be up to the soldier to sharpen their ISSUED bayonet! 3. No full tang needed, It will not be hammered into anything. The rest of the rifle provides the metal on metal contact needed for thrusting. (hence the bayonet lug!) 4. No proof of jamming of the locking mechanism! (simply a guess on your part!) 5. If not latched on properly, it will eventually fall off the rifle dummy. No human would make a mistake & let the bayo. hang from a rifle... get a brain! (Do you even own a vz58 rifle? I DO! 6. AGAIN this is an unissued bayou. & the leather was intentionally made smaller to allow natural stretching! With basic training, any sort of usage will stretch the leather smarty pants. 7. The angle was to keep the bayo. from interrupting arm movement! (latch has been explained to you) Typical subjective thinking on your part which makes this video a "thumb down" attempt! Thanks for trying;~)

Oh man I'm so pissed my Mauser bayonet isn't sharp, neither is my mosin nagant bayonet, I was really hoping to use my mosin bayonet for some sick bushcrafting, then I remembered, bayonets are for stabbing and not cutting

BADLY FLAWED REVIEW

Hi. Unfortunately your VZ58 bayonet is earlier - short (half) tang version. My later VZ58 version is full tang with overhanging metal on the back side. I never had troubles with handle. Regarding the scabbard, tough leather, angle, sharpening blade, etc. I have to say unfortunately that you do not know what you are talking about... If you will read some books or articles about this bayonet vz.58 history and design principles as same as purposes and deployment of them in Czechoslovak People Army then you will understand all of that. Please do not be angry for my complains but simply you are not right in many tasks. (btw for battle deployment the infantries been issued with sharpened bayonets) Good luck. MS

It's a bayonet, not a bayonet/fighting knife. Those are two different animals, and the issue of two weapons (bayonet and fighting knife) or single weapon (bayonet/fighting knife) has gone in and out of popularity over the years, just like bayonet design (spike/blade/cruciform chisel, knife/sword, folding/detached, socket/clip, weapon/multitool). Not all bayonets are sharp, they just need a tip that can pierce human meat. Literally any bayonet not permanently attached to a rifle can fall off if not properly affixed. All this video really does is show off how little you know about bayonets and their usage. Which is odd, because a quick glance at wikipedia or any number of militaria sites could have given you a better basis to examine this bayonet. The VZ58 bayonet was made to be a dedicated bayonet, not a multitool or a fighting knife. It was designed for thrusting. And like most bayonets, it's construction is cheap because, odds are, it'll snap off pretty quick in use. Even modern bayonets have incredibly short lifespans.

There is so much wrong here. This is a bayonet. Not a fighting knife. This was made during a time when Eastern European armies were still conscript, mass type warfare and bayonet fighting was a very real possibility (right after WW2). Bayonets traditionally were not sharpened for two reasons. 1) A non-sharpened blade tears flesh making a more ragged wound which is more difficult to repair. 2) And perhaps more importantly, a non-sharpened bayonet is more likely to go between bones (like the ribs) rather than cutting into bone and accordingly getting stuck -- and leaving the soldier without a weapon to defend himself. As this is not a fighting knife, the only connection point that matters is between the blade and the weapon. With or without a full tang, it's solid and saves weight (later version VZ58 bayonets had a full tang). As for losing the bayonet, you clearly don't have a VZ58. Either it's or it's off. There's no in between. And the only way it won't work is if you break the locking mechanism. (And it's actually more secure than a lot of other weapons' bayonet system where the bayonet coming off the gun and staying inside the opponent is a very real possibility.) As for the sheath angle. The VZ58 setup had the mag pouch on the right hip (or slightly forward) and the bayonet on the left hip (or slightly forward). This angled the handle slightly forward allowing for the bayonet to be easily withdrawn with either the left or right hand. It's an extremely solid ergonomic improvement. (And leather stretches over time. New scabbards are supposed to be extremely tight so that there is never any issue with the leather stretching too far and no longer securely retaining the bayonet. Gotta use your muscles bro.) Bottom line, Czech weapon engineering is really on second to the Swiss. But I'd say the Czech systems are much more robust and more utilitarian/practical -- IMO quite similar to the Israelis. Yes, German weapons have a lot of engineering -- to their detriment; well past the point of over-engineering...

Man you're not right. The VZ58 Bayonet is a very danger weapon. Why? Because it is one of the best throwing-knives ever built! Even like yours - without sharpen it - I can throw it right thru your lung or tummy I bet ;-). It's not sharp enough for you? If you want, you can get is sharp in a minute... The handle is only on the early models (you may have Ver. A, A1 or B I think) like this. There are later versions of it where the metal is going all the way thru the end of the bayonet and can also be used as a hammer. Version C1 und D are also a little longer and more heavy. The handle on most versions is not plastic, it's rather nice wood! So don't blame this cheap but very nice little weapon before you don't know all about it ;-).

Err .. I have one that’s full tang in my collection .. and by all means run it’s “child proof” edge across your arm but you might wanna do it on the way to get stitches 😂 .. it’s honed pretty good .. :) thanks for the vid tho good to see other variants

All the shortcomings you speak of were fixed on the Gen. 5 BON vz. 58 bayonets that were released in 2006. They are forged, they have a sharp edge, and they even have a serrated end to saw through stuffs. If that ain't enough the Gen. 5 vz. 58 bayonet also have have a narrow clip-point blade like the Glock Field Knife which not only provides them excellent durability but also makes them perform better than other bayonets when it comes to stabbing and slashing.

I mean no disrespect to Czech soldiers who have used this weapon to fight for their country. The bayonet I was issued in the US Marine Corps was pretty substandard too. Anyway, the vz 58 did it's damn job. I would not have wanted to get stuck by one, and that is what it was made for.

you have a unissued gen 2 bayonet the gen 4 has a full tang. The solder was expected to sharpen it and maintain it . Cost savings was the reason.

This guy is a goober. Shows his stripes right away.

The buckle is not defective. The leather was supposed to get stretched and loosened by the usage, but since there was no war, and the bayonets weren't used as much during the training it basically had no chance of loosening. And considering the angle (of the sheath), my dad has served in the Czechoslovakian army and he found the angle to be pretty comfortable. And finally, the bayonet went through a lot of later adjustments and „upgrades“ to fix some of the mentioned problems

First of all- this is an early model Vzor 58 bayonet. Later models had a full tang, with an extended pommel (so that only the steel hit whatever you were stupidly misusing the bayonet as a hammer on). Bayonets are stab weapons, firstly, and tools, secondly. It is supposed to have a sharp point, to pierce, and not to cut. With the scabbard you're just totally wrong. Firstly, you don't shove the bayonet all the way in, required to close the locking flaps around it. The flaps are leather and need to be used to be soft. If the bayonet is all the way in, you can close them as they're supposed to. The scabbard is angled, like a sword scabbard, to make it easier to draw from the left side with your right hand. It's both a bayonet and a combat knife if the need arises. You're almost making it seem like you're saying these things wrongly by purpose.. you can't be dumb enough to believe everything you're saying.

The U.S. Cavalry issued swords that were similar in sharpness to that knife... as any warrior knows, the process of sharpening a bladed weapon is something "enjoyable and intimate" , exactly the way it feels to stick it into soft living tissue that is the enemy

nice thanks i was scared i my bayonet wasnt supposed to be blunt

There's a reason why it's not sharp also the leather most likely dried over time could be why it won't catch the button

The tang is actually full. If you find a blank, it goes all the way down the handle and those screws secure to a series of holes in the tang. I don't think you've researched this whatsoever and I don't trust the points you've made in this video.

*For knives, the Czech military was issued fighting/utility knives made by Mikov -- a well known firm making great knives. This is an example of military issue knife from the same period as this bayonet: farm3.static.flickr.com/2141/2445304407_34aa68e246_b.jpg Again, these are BAYONETS.

You do realize that a bayonet is 100% used for stabbing and is purposefully meant to not have a sharpened edge? Right there it's obvious you don't know what you are talking about. We use them here on our C7's for probing for mines so a sharpened edge would be counter productive and a second knife is always carried. Please educate yourself more on the topic before making a bad video.

Okay I've watched your video again and I do understand what you're talking about... Maybe I misunderstood what you've said and you were pointing out the faults with this. The sharpening thing is true, they left that up to the individual soldier, and even the later version of the bayonet that were far improved were still not sharpened. I'll leave my comment up, and if you want you can delete it. I didn't mean to sound rude. I didn't realize that you were talking about the time in which this particular bayonet was being used, likely understanding that better versions of it were made later on. Another excellent video when it comes down to it. Ultimately, this thing is lacking compared to the AK-47 bayonet, and the mauser bayonet realistically and that's a much older rifle. But like a previous commenter mentioned, this was just to be used as a stabbing tool on the end of a rifle, and the individual soldier tended to be issued a fighting knife if he needed one.

You realize that a there is such thing as a spike bayonet is not sharped just like half of the bayonet. The force of a grown man thrusting at a object does not need to be sharp it needs to be pointy witch it has.

Ummm, many bayonets come with, at least somewhat, dull edge.

"probably"

It is a stabbing weapon and only has to work once.

The swiss Victorinox bayonett is also not sharpend (some dumbasses do sharpen them) they will only get sharpend in case of war, and it's also no field knife, that would be the pocket knife

More info is here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bxFBNVHUmw0.html

Thats wood not plastic

Wow. I don't really understand the need for all the venom in these posts. If you disagree, OK, but there is no reason to get offensive about it. For the record, I agree the vz 58 is not the greatest bayonet in the world. I have a couple in my collection, though, and I think this review is a bit harsh. All bayonets are compromises, most of them with unfortunate results. The bayonet for the M16A1 (I no longer remember the actual model number for the bayonet) that I carried in the Marines wasn't much better. But it did have a full tang, and one thing I do agree on is the half/full tang issue. It is interesting that, as another viewer pointed out, the Czechs later went to a full tang on this bayonet. Good idea. The Russians and Bulgarians continued the half tang on into the AK74/AK100 series-- a plastic handle with the tang ending at the second finger groove. Have seen quite a few of these that broke right at that spot.

Bayonets are not supposed to be sharp, just good for stabbing. They are not meant to be knives even if they look like knives.

Czechs national sport is stealing of the military equipment. This accessory had been made as the parade attachment for a Service Rifle (Which is not expected to be used in war and poke people with attached bayonets). And it had been made with assumption that someone will steal it. "Okay, comrade, you can steal this fancy accessory and do not take anything else". Simple trick to keep realy important things in the warehouse. Therefore bayonet design is as cheap as possible. And it can not be used as the knife.....Thus public is safe when this accessory is stolen. This bayonet is very popular in all slav countries as the throwing knife, digging stick and back scratch. I believe that there are three times more bayonets had been produced than VZ.58s.....

ok I will avoid the vz58 bayonet. valuable advice, thanks friend

Malísimos tus comentarios sobre esta bayoneta. Deberías informarte antes de hacer un video

czech republic is the best ! :D

Most major points have been covered so heres something that triggered me quite a bit. "Gave czechoslovak soldiers something they could not count on?!" Listen here sonny, dont ever fucking say something about a weapon you know NOTHING about. Your video is spreading misinformation. All of it was assumption and/or lies.

This a useles review

first learn then review