Can the Mercedes-Benz E-Class W212 withstand the cold!? Let me know in the comment section what's the coldest / warmest you drive and how the car did handle that!
@@codybersicc7939 "leave it running? wtf?" bro you poor? never shut down a system in that cold. If it dont start again, what easly happen in that cold YOU DEAD
@Opiates&Tits yes it's actually a diesel, i mean there's winter diesel which can handle cold temperatures a little better but still diesel can flocculate at -40°C
W212 did OK here. I was commuting to work in Siberia at -40..-30 C. A piece of cardboard or other insulation helps in front of radiator, otherwise the stream just blows heat out of the compartment. Full synth oil is a must for cold starts, look at 0W and check freeze point in specs. After start I left idling for 5-10 min, then checked steering, brakes and shifted transmission from N to D several times. All fluids flow - ok to move. The heater needs to be in circulate mode if it's on high vent setting, outside air is just too cold to heat up this fast. I've been changing steering and brake fluids before every winter. Had a piece of insulation fastened on hood cover, too. Insulation helps building up heat under the hood, coolant flows and heater keeps working.
Wow, the northern lights / aurora borealis! That was an unexpected bonus at the end of the video. Awesome performance from the W212. We have a W212 E400 but the enemy we have here is heat & humidity, not icy cold temperatures. Great video!
I think I definetly would NOT turn off my engine at around -30.. -40°C. Fuel lines might freeze if the fuel flow stops for too long. It already has problems keeping cooling water temperature, so I would just let it running. You can put your transmission box into manual and try to keep at least 2k engine rpm. At around 1k and light throttle it produces almost no heat but at around 2k it should make sufficient amount of heat. Sports mode as someone stated isn't necessarry, but manual might be useful. Anyways, thank you very very much for this video. Its really interesting to see this perspective of the world. greetings from germany! :)
They use different kind of diesel in arctic winter conditions which does not freeze so easily. Also additional mask in front of the engine is recommended so that the crankcase Vent Hose does not freeze (happened to me couple of times,it blows oil out of the engine through the oil cap). Also electric engine block pre-heater is must. Due to law it's forbidden to run engine for more than 4 minutes (2 minutes in summer) if you don't drive (atleast in finland).
Had a W212T, half-facelift (2011-2012), 265HP 4Matic with air suspension and full options. Absolutely amazing car, never left me in doubt when it came to reliability. Consumption was a bit on the high side, but the car was so relaxing to drive I can forgive it for that.
be careful out there, with -40C you don't want to get crispy waiting for a tow truck... Thank you for showing us the "Northern lights" from cosmic ray ionisation SPACIBA 👍👍
I had a 1991 E200D with 76bhp. -36.5C Started right up. In Norway we add WestFrost additive to diesel in winter. Good for say -45C start up. Diesel does not freeze then. Midac Sigillum CA-Hybrid Battery and 92C Mahle Termostat. Also, you have to blick off radiator with Fabrivk and Cardboard. On my w211 E200D (2008) I keep revs at 2000rpm. -36C the no issues.
With W212 and newer using webasto heater below -25C seems to mitgate stuff good. But... Isolating radiator is needed At -35c or lower. Kits for this are available...
On my way to toronto from calgary in 2022 january, i encountered -42C weather. I parked my old 2002 audi a6 3.0 v6 gas powered car at the hotel's parkade and went to sleep. In the morning, I went and started it right up. No problems. 0w30 engine oil, bigger battery than rated and no problems. 190,000kms back then. She's been garaged most of it's life
German cars are very strong. I wouldn't be surrpised even if it started at -60. I've seen TDIs diesels start at -41. It is all about what oil you use, the antifreeze you use, and how much cold your battery can withstand. Most modenr batteries 2009- to now are tested to run good until -55. Even newer batteries and oils are being tested until -70 degrees Celsius. The engineers definitely know that there are people living in these conditions.
To keep cars warm during the trip in -40C in Siberia we use glass-wool blankets in the engine bay and stick a piece of a cardboard in front of the radiator to protect it from winds. However, these measures do help only a little, and only if the engine is "hot" enough to sustain its temperature while running (smaller engines like 1.0L 3cyl will be underheated no matter what you invent.)
In my old 2002 a6 v6 gas, I use nothing. 10mins idle in -40c in cold Canadian morning and it is at full heat. Transmission fluid gets warmed by the antifreeze. So as soon as coolant is at 90c, transmission is usually also at least 30. Oil takes a bit longer to get to 80, but in 10 mins idle, it definitely is above freezing. I never put cardboards or anything. I drove for 1500kms at night in -42c on the hwy doing 110-120kph and I kept the heat set to 21.5C, because if I'd put it on high, I'd die of heat.
Litearly go siberia style at -40, cardboard in front and thick blankets under the hood wrapped around the engine. Then you can keep the temperature while driving or idling :)
The engine temperature drop is almost characteristic of E250 Bluetec. Even minus 20 degree C, when i got off expressway, the temperature would drop to around 60 degree C
I share the same observation of W212 automatic heating issue with the freezing windscreen even though I have never seen colder than -32 degrees in my car. It needs manual settings in cold weather. It's kind of exciting to drive in such weather knowing that the fuel in the tank is no longer liquid below -29 (living a bit further south on the Finnish side), but it starts forming chrystals in the cold weather. In practice, it is still possible to drive the car below that, but it's always interesting as one never know how far exactly below the rated temperature of the fuel one can go. OTOH, if a diesel starts at all, then it will keep running, as the return flow back to fuel tank heats the remaining fuel that is not used (yet).
I have 2014 350cdi estate. I only drove at -20°C or maybe -25°C but I never experienced any problems except some of the driving assist features stop working. But that problem often occur in snowy conditions also at higher temperatures. My car is 2WD, I wish I had the 4Matic because it easily gets stuck in the snow. 2014 is the face-lift model with electrical power steering so I never experienced that heavier steering feel. One thing that irritates me in winter time is that the gearbox has some kind of winter-start mode that uses really low gears and keeps the revs up. Someone said it had something to do with heating the catalytic converters faster to pass the emission tests. Don't know if that's true but it kicks in if outside temperature is below +2°C and it does not go into normal mode until the engine temp reach normal which takes more than 15 minutes at 0°C. I have the 7G-tronic gearbox but my previous 5G-tronic W210 220cdi had the same bevaviour as well as a 2000 W210 E430 I had many years ago.
You can turn off the winter start mode by just putting it in sport mode, in comfort mode it always starts in 2nd regardless of temperature. Also what kind of tires do you have, i have never had issues with my RWD Benz.
Please try to replace cabin air filter before winter, this will help to keep windows cleaner. Don't use internal circulation as well, always keep as external.
Internal + AC for me. Air is dry and heats up faster the cabin. It will also put some additional load to the engine so it might help a little to maintain coolant temp in those temperatures.
@@robert28040 Unfortunately the AC will not work if the temperature is lower than +2...+4 C (at least for VW). Other than that a good advise for wet and cold, but only when still above freezing.
@@vanyusha1998 The evaporator has a thermostat that closes at near freezing temperatures, this will turn off the a/c to stop the evap from freezing but also turns off the a/c if the incoming air isn't warm enough. You can sometimes bypass this by turning on circulation and cooling the warm air from the cabin but your car might have a condenser and ambient temperature sensor so it might not work even with recirculation enabled. My 1991 civic only has the evap thermostat and you can still use the a/c even below freezing by using that trick. My Audi has a more advanced system with more sensors so it may not work, I haven't tried yet.
Old diesels is lovely 👊 To be fair I actually know a guy owning a Tesla and he drive daily with it and even live in the coldest place in this town. From what he says in not any problem at all, but I not know for certain is not a close friend.
Love E-Class especially W124 / W212 I not sure about the W213 I think sedan looks kinda nice. Always been for me like. W124 sedan W210 estate W211 sedan W212 estate W213 sedan
I had a 2006 Ford Focus 1.8TDCi and on my bro's b-day 26 February back in 2018 it was -35°C here in Bosnia that night, plus the car was on a parking lot next to a small stream in a 500m, when I started the car it was just fine and I usually don't hit the road in these colds immediatelly I let it warm up for 5-6 minutes then I went on my way, as soon as the turbo kicked in the air tube on its output popped out in such a loud bang I thought the car's engine exploded, terrifying experience.
I am wondering how diesel fuel works at such extreme temps, does it transform into a gel? I know that the fuel filter has a heating option, but i am wondering about fuel pumps.
The normal gas station fuel is not really suited for this cold of weather but usually is works anyway. Actually now when you saying it I going to make a test with the normal gas station and the fuel I usually use from other place that’s suited for extreme cold. I coming back to this topic!
This v6 has filter in ideal position as it is inside the v of the engine under that cover. So it's a warm place. But I think they have arctic diesel also.
Yess we also have better diesel for arctic climate! I have now started a test with the diesel for cold climate and normal diesel, but so far nothing kinda happen in the freezer -18. Wait for cold outside again so I can put the test out.
I think that up about -15, you should be ok with "normal" diesel, but after that, at around -20, i always wondered how that works. I have a few guys that live in siberian cities and said that they don't have diesel cars there, and the ones they do use ( i would imagine trucks and such) stay in heated garages.
lovely filming. I miss cold winter. we have about -7 at the most here. but I learn in the army tha when it is wery cold, cover up most of the radiator. then it is easyer for the engine to get up to 90 c. I have an 211 320 cdi and drove in -19 and the engine temp. was 92 c with no cover over the radiator. but that is far from - 40 c.
You can put Diesel additiv in your Car my friend from liquid moly its help to clean your Motor … and it is good when it is cold Outside when you have a diesel 👍🏼
It's better to turn heat to front window right after you started the cold engine in order it to not get cracked because of hot air hit and too fast temperature change. When engine is not heated, window gets cold air at first and is slowly warming up with engine.
I have a 2015 E350. If you don’t drive it within a month it’ll need to be restarted and doesn’t like it. I left it out during winter and it wouldn’t start ethier. They are finicky unfortunately when it comes to hard(er) strength tests like this. Everyday and in most situations I’ll still take it. For hardcore situations like this or where it really matters.. I’ll take a Toyota Land Cruiser or similar.
Here in Croatia the max lowest temperature recorded was -34.6 Celsius, here on lets say -10 my Renault Megane 1.5dci takes 1-2 pushes of the start button to start(new batter) while my mums Corsa D 2009 1.4 Petrol starts up a bit worse than the megane xD
coldest i drove in was around -33c i'am from Canada but i really in the South of Quebec it gets pretty cold here sometimes and also really hot in the summer
@@WorldXHero It took me around 30 km once on the highway until the temperature reached operating temperature. It was in a Volvo V50 1.6D and I didn't have cardboard on the grille. If the auxiliary diesel heater wasn working itwouldn't have taken so long.
very nice car. Please have a towel ready in car to use, and perhaps use some anti fog spray. The auxiliary light is very light but that kind of light is not aiming all to the front, but provides more glare, maybe try a laser projector(do the headlight retrofit) may works.
Coldest I've been in with my car (VW CC) has been -25°C. But below -10 or so the coolant doesn't go higher than 60°C. Might need to have the thermostat checked
I live in nothern Sweden too and yesterday when i drove to stockholm i had the same problem thats displayed at 0:48 in the video and it was a pain in the ass , especially when my auto wipers went on.... and i was driving on the highway too. Volvo v60
Common issue and actually kinda hard to do anything when is this cold other then put some protection against the engine! But I feel this particular model is much worse then other car I drove.
why does he use it eco mode and then losing temperature as driving? Why don't you drive it normal or sport to get the engine with higher load thus creating more heat
Obviously u got an Independent heater which can work together with the engine running to keep the coolant temp high enough its good to know when u drive a diesel in north pole conditions btw I was really suprised by the washing fluid not freezing here in the EU they re selling a minus 20 C only ,which freezes at minus 7-8 C
Yess I actually use the auxiliary heater from time to time and especially when is this cold, but for video I wanted to drive with the normal settings. I think the fluid I use this time was for -25 when adding 1/1 water, and this I only used concentrated.
Do you have cover on the mask/grill. I usually cover the lower front opening at least. So the intercooler is not going to freeze. At those temperatures I would cover the whole front. It just warms up so much faster than way. It's been quite cold here -20. But today it dropped to -8.
I still do the normal intervals for engine oil / filter 1 year and I usually drove about 12.000 km in that time. Most of the times is only around - 20 at the most these extreme cold days is not so often.
@@MB212G Thanks, MB212 - I have the same motor (OM 642 -848 in my case), therefore my interest. I also change it 1x per year, rnd. 15k km. Now it has 110Tkm in total. Best, JRT
Как то машинка сломалась ночью в лесу в -35. До дома 400 км, а у меня в машине жена и грудной ребенок. А до поселения еще добраться надо, про автосервис или магазин автозапчастей я молчу. Хотя до этого было прохладнее и норм катался, но всякое бывает.
Temperature shouldn’t be going down that fast. I think maybe there’s a problem with coolant control valve. Because I had same thing on my A6 in cold weather when idling due to this.
@@deki90to It’s completely normal in those conditions for Diesel car to have trouble maintaining the operating temperature. I drove E200d 2018 in -15 C weather and it couldn’t reach operating temperature because it was simply too cold. V6 Diesel is better making heat than the 4 cylinder though. If you haven’t experienced these kind of conditions and how it’s different with diesel you can’t know.
Great video. I think you do not have heated windscreen yeah? What kind of windscreen washer fluid do you use? It did not froze to the windscreen at all. That is pretty awesome.
wouldn’t it be better to like tape off the front grille so cold air has a harder time reaching the engine? Then the oil temperature should be less of a problem
There are no worse conditions for the car than winter conditions and big minuses. The car repair shops are full. I can't believe that the engine cools down while driving a Mercedes. how would these other mortals. :).
Was gonna note that the car struggled to get to operating temp. Then I saw you commented on that. As long as you were able to get some heat! What country?
Agreed with the engine temp, it's run cold in winter time. I covered the cooler in mine MB, but it did not help much. Thinking about changing the thermostat to a 103 degrees, but then maybe it will be a problem in the summer, I will take a think and check if someone I know has done it, first before I do it, because I think it's not good for the engine goes to cold in Winter time when it is 20 and below. Ps.Do u know some that's change termostat to 103 degrees and if that works even in summertime?
I'm pretty sure stock thermostat is closed anyway when the engine is at 60-70 degrees, I don't think replacing it would change anything in this particular situation.
@@Gfalkh.57, maybe it’s beneficial in some other scenario… can’t think of one though. A lot of things exist just to make money on us, like ODB2 power boosters and fuel savers. (=
The thermostat is going to try and keep the temp that it is set for.... But it cant do more than close the circulation... no matter if its a 103 deg o 90deg. And if closing the circulation doesnt get the coolant temp up to normal operating temp then there's nothing extra the 103 deg thermo can do that the 90 deg cant.
