Waiting on a Miracle // Unfinished Animatic 

Thomas ruined her

@@saturn6563 espero que ne la sexta temporada tejgan algo planeado para ella relamente no puedem solo dejarla ese triste destino asi como asi

​@@sebastianlanda8331Exactly

Yeah I agree I was hoping and begging and I loved her hero potential as well I thought she get some real good character development but then they just threw it out the window like whyyy?!😭

They did her dirty just like they wrecked Dracos redemption ark in HP

And then replaced her! It’s complete bullshit.

​@@midnamagic2678I know

the only miracle chloe is waiting on is for the writers to do her justice

@@midnamagic2678 fr

@@wizardkuma fr

Yeah

honestly whats more frusterating is Chloe didn't even choose to side with hawkmoth just to get powers. chloe had agreed through reluctantly that she couldnt be queen bee anymore when ladybug finally told her(after sabrina went miraculer in defense of chloe) about how since hawkmoth knew her identity that to avoid being targetted she couldnt be queen bee and that it could keep pollen safe as well. only for chloe to be targetted anyway directly. hawkmoth akumatizing her parents and directly TELLING her that he chose to target them because of chloe...implying he could do it again at any other time...and then having no way to defend herself. she then went to contact ladybug via signal where she was littlerally cornered by the bad guys on a roof where they cut off the power to her signal...no way to defend herself or think ladybug would come to her rescue. where then hawkmoth a villian who hardly ever comes out of hiding dug into her insecurities after making her feel isolated, alone....just for the kicker being that he had pollen and all the other miraculouses when chloe had trusted ladybug to keep pollen safe. where she agreed only after he freed her parents. I understand marinette and other sin the show assume chloe was just being her entitled self but WE the audience literally say she was literally cornered into that decision where she was sabotaged by a adult villian who knows her well. why do we brsh off others getting manipulated into agreeing to the powers in their darkest moments but we don't give chloe some leeway when she was literally put into a stage to be manipulated? even more chloe is bad at communicating and feels like she messed up bad because she sided with hawkmoth and it caused all these side heros to be known and we KNOW chloe is aware that people don't like her and that being good was hard for chloe even when she was trying...just for all that effort to go down the toliet by siding with hawkmoth. so I actually though it made sense that chloe would get 'worse'. no one likes feelings helpless or out of control so of course chloe would double down on blaming ladybug(since that was also the diection the master manipulator pointed her in to be upset by) and since trying to be 'good' failed so hard and it hurt to try....chloe relying ong being bad/mean as a distraction becuase its familar made sense...heck it even explains why chloe seemed to get 'worse' actively being meaner with less explination as to why she chose to act the way she did unlike in the earlier seasons. I thought it made a GREAT parallel to how both mari and adrien relied on familar ways to act to try to cope and distract themselves from their real problems after the loss of fu. I kept waiting fo someone to realize chloe acting the way she was ...was a cry for help since it did feel 'out of character' for how they established chloe before...but they never did since choe is both bad at communicating and was succeeding in isolating herself...similar in some ways to mari who seemed to be relying on others an dletting people in but who was also pushing people away. even more when a 'replacment' showed up in zoey who everyone seemed to like better.. like on one hand I understand maybe they were going for chloe being a example of what happens when no one sees the warning signs in your behaviour and gives you proper help and it doesn't realy excuse her actions.... but it feels OFF to me that teh show tries to pretend chloe was completely irredeemable even though the point of akuma victism are that 'villians' are people who are hurting and in that hurt try to help and validtae their feelings in the worst ways...but if you find teh core of their problem and acknowledge it...then they might calm down and you can get them the help they might actually need. and that the REAL villians are theones to take advanatage of that negativity and pretend to be helping you but lead you down a darker path. theme wise is that the 'villians' are in reality victims who need the most help. and they had used chloe to teach mari both that standing up to people will get results and that bulllies aren't actually as powerful as you think and that chloe who she thought of as evil and just bad...was actually a complex person who had her own problems and didn't actually have good rolemodels. yet they try to pull the irreedable chleo and try to have mari symapthize with hawkmoth who sabotaged chloe? like if chloe IS ireedemable I DON'T see how they can have me believe mari would be understanding toward gabe at all who is MUCH worse! like my only hope is they are going to reveal that marinette was wrong about chloe in the long run...because chloe was in fact manipulated by gabriel and lila especially and mari DON'T know what we know. and mari IS bias and very influenced by her own emotions on things. gabe....they messed up how they handled gabe hojestly but it could be easily remedied if they would just point out he was literally getting his mind/emotiosn twisted due to using his miraculous the wrong way this whole time and then using multiple miraculous which can literally cause insanity.

Same, Chloe was sucky but cmon, no one deserves that

I guess it is so cool! But I think that video needs its song with more miraculous character lyrics because when somebody watches ENCANTO and loves this song, especially in connection to the picture can be disappointed in this matching. However, It doesn't have to be that way! In my opinion, both of this production is great but independent. Sometimes mixing things even good can give a bad effect. Hardly, ever does it work well. In this case, I mean to say it is too much Encanto in it with too little miraculous. Please create own song to this or change the lyrics a bit and will be perfect! Also I'm glad you done this video because in some ways I like Cloe B....? And I think other than Lila Cloe is the one of the most underrated character of these series.Thanks so much!!!😃🤩😊

Well Chloe, Kagami, and Cat Noir, but yeah

THANK YOU!! 😭😭💞💞 I just thought this song fit so well fir chloe

I understand your frustration for what they did to Chloe but it wasn't the writers per say Thomas Astruc aka the creator of Miraculous Ladybug, was away during the writing/production of Season 2, so the other writers just went along with their own ideas After season 2 was done and out, Thomas came back and he was not happy how Chloe was becoming popular, and didn't care about the fans opinion about keeping her as a good person. Because in Thomas stupid mind, he thinks that bullies like Chloe don't change and don't deserve a chance to be good. So the only reason why Chloe will never get a chance is because Thomas is a big egotistical baby that believes everything he says and does is right because he's a "professional" So yeah I'm sad that Chloe didn't get the redemption amd character development she rightfully deserve. All we can do is go to the Fan art and fanfiction

Yep! She has so much potential! And I was really starting to like her too

@@anez1266 the idea of chloe being a good girl wasn't Astruc's? That explains everything.

@@anez1266 wait how do you know this?Did you read a post on Instagram or what?

I know, I understand because I'm also my favorite character and the song suits him well 😭💛🐝

Mirabel is batman but with a family

honestly i wouldnt have minded it so much if the show at least hinted to the tradgedy that marinette and others were wrong about chloe being irrdeemable...that they got fooled by hawkmoth and lila into not realizing chloe was basically a real life akuma...that chloeing acting worse was her coping mechanism similar to how adrien and mari fel back into old behaviour patterns to try to distract themselves from their problems...the show tone wise kept acting like i should be happy entirely that chloe would supper with her abusive mom after being abaoned by her dad and replaced by her nicer sister. like I get chloe made choices and there are consequences to those choices so her facing punishment i didn't mind...but the show acting like i'm dumb and like i didn't see chloe refuse akumatization like a hero and giving in to hawkmoth that first time due to a set up, emotional manipluation and hawkmoth having her parents and pollen hostage PISSES me OFF. especially with how they handled gabriel! they didnt even mention gabe's personality being warped due to how he's been using his miraculous wrong all this time to explain his weird evil moodswings nd dumb mistakes at least to give him a buffer to explain why I should think anything about him isredemptive! the show basically spent most of the seasons undercutting any nuance gabe had and yet expect me to give him a pass with not effort and yet condemn a kid? let alone expect mari to be sympathetic or see nuance is possible after they sabotaged the person they were using to show mari that lesson?!(chloe)

I HAVE heard that maybe the plan is to have chloe reach rock bottom to fully cement her realizing actions has consequences and she can grow from there. personally i thik she could be useful for pointing out that mari doesn't have all the facts on things...like chloe agreed to side with hawkmoth because he took her family and pollen hostages and if she hadnt agreed whe would have kept all of them and potential would have kept targetting her family. and set up a scenerio into digging into her insecurities. her doubling down on being mean seemed like a poor coping mechanism to feel in control and distract herself from her guilt about it like how mari tried to distacrt herself from her guilt over losong master fu in various ways and had relied onher only crush on adrien to try to pretend to be normal...where lowkey both were kindof pushing people away in different ways...same for chat as well during this time frame. only no one was there to call chloe out on her poor coping mechanism and actually get her to open up since chloe had successfully pushed people away(like how chloe had cut off her friendship with adrien first). and then chloe gets manipulated by lila and hawkmoth again in the ending but mari doesn't knwo all the details on that...and while its understandable that with how chloe was that mari would judge her due to their history since it shouldnt be mari's job to fix her and chloe tried to make mari feel bad to feel better about her rockbottom and failed.....chloe does all points to someome who GENUINELY needed help but got overlooked because she wasn't seen as likable......and considering a theme about akuma villians are all just realy hurt people who lash out in poor ways trying to get their hurt acknowledge not able to reason they are making the situation worse...that the villians ar ein fact victims who need to be saved. personally I think it could work but I NEED to forget or have them retocon taht stupid sabotage episode where they saboategd kim and chloe together by giving mari some trauma over a pool, love and bullying when mari had NEVER treated chloe like chloe had ever been that level of bully. it makes EVERYTHING worse on hindsite and they could have just blamed her issue with dating adrien due to her trust issues due to felix! biggest issue is Mari sucks at handling lila and as much as people ct liek mari is smart...the only reason mari wasn't fooled by lila at times was because mari was ladybug herself and witnessed how far lila went with a lie...lila has show she CAN trick marinette and tha mari struggles to handle her at times...which I think could mean adrien could get more of the spotlight with dealing with lila as a villian. and who knows...maybe we can get adrien and chloe back together at somepoint for chloe's growth as well.

@@clarisacalderon9555 I say that a scene like this where Chloe feels very alone, practically Andre no longer has her as spoiled as before, in fact he seemed disappointed to see how his daughter became a tyrant who supported the monarch. Audrey is also upset because she literally dezonrro and She stained her family and last name, leaving her in humiliation of having so much but still failing, then as I said before, Sabrina no longer loves her, she was very loyal even though Chloe used her as her slave on some occasions, but Sabrina always made up. But now Sabrina would only be a pawn of terrible things, to people who did not deserve it and she ended up walking away from Chloe when she saw that she did not see her as a friend but rather as an object that she abused a lot, Chloe lost someone very It was important in her life that she was loyal to her, but all loyalty has its limit. adding that Adrien, who was also a friend of hers, ended up getting tired and giving in to Chloe changing because it seemed like a lost cause and ended up ending that friendship once and for all. time the same and now that he no longer has power as such, since Andre ended his stay as mayor and now focuses more on his sister Zoé, who does not abuse the resources that his father had, a scene like this where Chloe sits so alone and insecure that she is in a stage of depression. Maybe I don't know that she is starting to suffer bullying from other people and she no longer has a way to protect herself, Audrey will not pay enough attention to her because she is upset, then she will return to Paris and see how There is already a whole generation of heroes, they would sing a song similar to this one or with a similar perspective, showing their frustration, regret, overwhelm and loneliness, reaching the helplessness of seeing all the consequences that their bad actions had. Perhaps even seeing how Sabrina already has a boyfriend or more friends after years of that, her interest was no longer in power or the miraculous, she just wants to be forgiven and given a second chance, she doesn't want to be alone and feel forgotten or abandoned, she wants to be different , since when he runs towards Ladybug and stops her and makes an expression of begging and apologizing

That's an amazing idea! I wish I could finish it 😔😔

I love that idea 😍💕🌟

Hm?

@@Valrayishere_ Did you make a Sara Berry, animatic, by any chance?

Because this is a show of full Mary Sue.

I love her too but now she’s with Lila 😭😭😭

Guys, it's okay. We all know she had potential. We all know her story and how her parents were abusive to her. We all know she wasn't supposed to be a complete monster. And with Thomas Astruc retconning her as "evil" won't change the fact that people still like her and see her potential. Because to make someone unsympathetic (who was sympathetic before), you have to try really hard.

@@smart.but.stupid oh please... anything the creators do with chloe now will only make her earn more pitty from us. Plus if anyone needs a redemption arc it's the creators. They're the ones who made the characters cry for no reason, they're the ones who got us at the edge of our seats for nothing. They're the ones who are making us sad and disappointed.

@@lyndaazaleacheng3072 IKR? In the end of the story, it's the creators who lose this battle. Astruc made himself look nothing but petty and pathetic, hating on his own 14-y.o character so much, he made her an epitome of evil - and not only with the way he wrote her off, but with how he actively tried to fight everyone about her on social media. That's just confirming how biased he was towards his own characters. So yeah, I don't see why should I respect his opinion or even consider all this stuff canon.

@@smart.but.stupid like I said Chloe could redeem before Astruc.

Have you forgotten that it's Astruc who made her do that because he let the script get personal? He even made her way crueler in season4 just so everyone would forgive him for ruining her.

@@lyndaazaleacheng3072 no but at the end of the day it's his character and while we don't like what he did with his character we change the path he picked maybe we'll see a change in later seasons however we don't know all we can do is agree to disagree with his decision

@@alexisthemagicalgirl4429 you're right

@@lyndaazaleacheng3072 I would like to ask your opinions on Zoey I know alot of fans hate her but I have a theory that she'll be able to pull Chloe back the the ledge

Did you read this yet?

Kagami also had her identity expose yet she was still a member of the team and even then ladybug still allowed the exposed heroes to continue using their miraculous despite being at the same risk as Chloe. Also I would hardly say Chloe willingly joined Hawk Moth given how he set up a situation where she was left not only alone and cornered but emotionally vulnerable thus easy to manipulate

no one asked lol this is a chloe animation respectfully, go back to your zoe edits