Waiting to Win the Ring: Chiffona Thompson v "Orvalle" Williams II S24 E25 

Omg this is embarrassing…..she literally begging for a ring from a man who is saying he is having 2nd thoughts 🥴

She didn’t want her 20yr old daughter to see them sleep in the same room together, and here she is crying and begging a man on a global platform to marry her. What would her daughter think of that???!!!!!!!!

Her desperation is embarrassing and heartbreaking. You shouldn't want to marry someone that you have to beg to marry you and that you lie about having your tube tied.

The way Starr started packing up her stuff after she find out how long ago the tubes were tied, I am screaming!!

Lying about her tubes being tied for twenty years is a deal breaker and her knowing he wanted children. He's right , embarrassing!!!

I can't even describe the level of secondhand embarrassment I felt watching this grown woman bawling and begging this broke baby boy to propose to her 😱 She needs intensive therapy STAT.

He may be a user but she brought him to the show to give him an ultimatum, bought a ring to force him into proposing, then tied her tubes 20 years ago and lied to him about it? And she keeps calling him a manipulator? 🤔 Look in the mirror lady! This is a match made in purgatory. Meanwhile, how good does judge Star look!!

Robert killed me at the end when he said he’d seen telenovellas with less drama. This was a mess from start to finish.

And she is walking out of the courtroom with him STILL begging. Unbelievable. She humiliated herself on national TV.

She didn’t want him to meet the family bc they would’ve mentioned that she can’t have kids!! Then she loses him...just trifling. This is SO SAD..she bought her own ring.😔

Wow….. this was really a plot twist situation. I’m in tears as she begs this man to propose to her and she even bought her own ring and then he hit us with “her tubes are tied” wtf! But did you see how her tears dried up real fast and she changed her emotions. So imagine what he goes through at home. It’s her own fault she chose this dude and it’s partly her fault he won’t marry her. This was a good episode. Somebody tell baby girl to stop playing victim.

Let me get this straight. They’ve been living together for THREE years and she’s concerned about her 20 year old child seeing they sleep in the same room? Won’t let him meet her family. She sounds like she’s playing games. I see why he’s dragging his feet based on her behavior. And she’s had her tubes tied for 20 years and never told him. Wow!

I hate she made a fool of herself like this. As long as he knows he affects her like this, he can do or not do whatever he wants. Also, she shouldn't have lied. It just needs to be over.

“Baby, you don’t want a baby anyway!” From the 43 year-old woman who shielded her man from her family, tied her tubes for 20 years, bought her ring, waited 5 years into a relationship to disclose the information, and expects to be married or reimbursed. ‘Aye Bomba’ is an understatement.

"I've seen Spanish novelas with less drama." Robert, you killed me with that one! She needs therapy ASAP.

I'm embarrassed for her with all that begging

40 something years old with grown-A kids acting like she is 19 yrs old! She actually brought her own ring..Then drops her own bomb! Make this make sense!

The way she’s aggravated me by being so desperate! So many women over 35 act like this. They don’t think about making themselves happy or just being bc they’re so desperate for a man. It’s disgusting!

Omg I can barely watch the litigants because Judge star slays every look!! From makeup to outfit, to accessories. She's killing it. !!!Elegant, classy and regal. She's lit!!!😍😍😍😍

In the words of my girl Lynn Toler "never make a man tell u he doesn't want u more than once".... Her daughters are not going to be proud of their mom begging a man to marry her forget sleeping together

That age gap so embarrassing! She’s 10yrs older than him and acting like a damn child on national tv! She doesn’t want him to meet her daughter because she’s probably insecure about their age difference… Then the tubes tied lie

When Robert said, “Aye,Bomba!” I hollered because she made that Dominican man turn into an abuelita with that hot tea she spilled 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

This was so juicy. It was like watching a movie. Judge Star is bringing and giving it to them straight

U cannot meet my daughter but it is ok to expose our entire relationship beefs in front of the entire world ! 200 IQ Move right there !

Lord knows I'd pay to see Judge Toler on this case bc she needs some Tolerisms and self respect.

Now, I see it. She didn't want her family around him because he might say something about having a baby and they're going to say chile, She can't have no babies. She had her tubes tied 20 years ago. I feel sorry for him now.

"I have the ring already, all you have to do is get on your knees and propose" MA'AM!?? Lmao omg that's sooo crazy

She don’t even care she just wants a man, at any damn cost 😢

Can we all agree judge star is a fashionista

The reality is that she's freaking out because she knows that the clock is ticking for her, she's already in her 40s and the fact that that man left her puts her in extreme stress because she so desperate to be given a ring but she knows deep down that she won't find a man as good as him ever again and on top of that her chances of finding commitment from a younger man is slim to none, Sure they'll blow her back out but no commitment will be given. Remember at the end of the day women may have control access to sex but us men control who gets that ring

Oh no this woman needs to stop playing victim and take responsibility for her actions!!! She kept saying he manipulated her but after the first time she kept giving him money it’s her fault at that point…when he decided not to pay her back she should’ve left him then cuz he wasn’t being a man…but instead she keeps paying for more stuff knowing full well he’s not paying her back…she knew he was using her and still let him stay with her…at that point she was trying to buy his love…and she knew it so she gotta take responsibility…she had her own ring and begged him to stay with her…she is desperate…she’s so pretty but has low self esteem…she needs to get herself together without him…just embarrassed herself on national tv for a little boy…she need to stay single until she get it together!!!

I feel so bad for her she clearly has a storybook fantasy in her head and is trying to get it fulfilled no matter what she needs therapy

The way that she was initially crying and begging him to make herself look like the victim and then when he revealed that she was very much just as bad by lying about Tsing her tubes so she immediately stopped crying is crazy. The manipulation and victimhood in the woman is alarming.

5 years and he hasn't met your kids 🙄. This was sad , why is she begging him.

Give that chick an Oscar 🏆

And she still was begging. He was even pushing her away. He better get as far away from her as possible because she might be crazy. This is like an episode of snap waiting to happen

If you have to do all this he doesn’t love you! 🤦🏾‍♀️

I'm only 7 minutes in and I agree with dude. She's moving funny

This saddens my spirit for a woman to not know her worth! You are worth so much more than a five year investment in a relationship. My parents divorced after 45 years and my mother didn't shed a tear. She hated she waited so long!!! Pray and know your power..

I love how everyone is standing up for her but she's just as bad as he is. First off she offered that money, he didn't force her to pay anything. She didn't have to spend $2800 or the $800. She choose to do that. Hell I agree with him that he doesn't owe the money back. He didn't want to propose because he knows she's desperate and he knows whatever he does she'll hold it over his head. And the fact she hid the fact she had her tied tubes knowing he wanted a kid or possibly. Plus she's 43. The odds of her getting pregnant is low. So I don't feel bad for her. She knew what was doing but she was desperate for a man, and settled.

This is absolutely the saddest case I've every watched. The deception , the emotional dysfunction & desperation is unfathomable!

He used that tubes tied situation to flip the script on her lol

She’s been lying the whole time and hiding him until they got married in case someone in her family slipped out and told her secret. It’s no guarantee that she was or can get pregnant even after a reversal tubal ligation.

Whew chi…🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ That was truly embarrassing to watch. She begged that man for a wedding, not a marriage & she lied about tubes tied for the entire relationship. Oooh this was disgusting

JUDGE STAR PACKING UP THOSE PAPERS WAS ALL I NEEDED TO SEE IN LIFE😂😂😂😂😂😂

The fact that she had a nerve to cry about him not marrying her and then he later found out that she had her tubes tied and they have been for 20 years says a lot to me he has every right not to marry her I will not lead a man on like that knowing that my tubes are tied I would’ve told him from day one that they were tied and it would’ve been up to him to deal with it or not💯

I like Star for this show, it took me a few episodes to get used to it but Star is good.

The ring was only 3,000 dollars” The nerve …A ring is just material thing …Love, respect, patience and loyalty is what builds a marriage.

I'm 2 years older than she is and could never imagine having an adult temper tantrum. That money she gave him was to buy his submission. A sane, mature man would have run from her years ago. She got a younger man who's income is lower than hers. I'm sure she offered to help him and when he didn't do what she wanted, it turned into now you owe me. I hope he moves on.

She was crying like it’s the end of the world. My husband and I couldn’t believe what we were watching. I’m praying that God heals her broken heart and she needs counseling desperately!

How do you sue someone when the relationship doesn't end in marriage???? If this was doable ALOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE SUING EACH OTHER!!! Y'ALL ARE TOO CRAZY TO BE IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP!

She’s asking for money back for the ring SHE BOUGHT so he can propose to her?? Girl how in the world would you expect him to love, respect, and value you after this??

They both seem manipulative and playing, and I wish both well in their future.

The tears suddenly stopped when he said she had her tubes tied.

It's the way the judge just started to pack up her stuff after Plaintiff said, "20 years."

She is controlling. I’m trying so hard not to use the word crazy. He is Low performing. Both due to something.

This is sad and ridiculous. I pray for her to know her worth and get it together.

Tried to marry him before he found out she couldn’t have kids😂

This is GUT-WRENCHING 💔😭 Humiliation to the highest power!!!!!!

The desperation to have a ring OMG girl please 😂😂😂😂😂

I don't believe he's intentionally using her; I think he has a thought process of that being in relationship makes them entitled to eachothers money and that favors shouldn't be counted, however, at a certain point no you have to be able to carry your own weight. Shouldn't be depending on your partner for 5 years. She need to stop all that damn crying lol..

It's not the number of years you've been together, it's how happy you've been in those years

Tubal ligation 20 years ago and he had to go through her phone to find out 🤦🏾‍♀️🙅🏾‍♀️ $10,000 and the Dr. on speed dial but it never occurred to her to tell him the truth.

Girl why you begging this man 🤦🏾‍♀️ omg this is heat breaking

The moment he said he wanted kids she should have told him her tubes were tied. She is manipulative. Period.

I think the judge calling him a user was unfair

Perhaps if he has to put a $3,000 ring on layaway, he isn't financially secure to be married. If he has to "borrow" $1,000 for a party,he cannot afford to be married now. What do ya'll think????? Please chime in.

Her breakdown in the end was so concerning. I hope she finds peace within herself and can move forward.

“And sir, pay for your own stuff”. A highly paid, educated woman basically saying “my money is my money & your money is ours”

The guy is actually a sweetheart. She was so manipulative to the point where you would think this dude is a bad dude, but he isn’t. All he needed was some boundaries set and let to be the man in the relationship and he would have either stepped up or left.

This was the bottom of the barrel, they’re both totally embarrassing. But she’s in a deep pit of her own design and she keeps digging deeper

16:11 Judge Star: Baby, he is not your husband! 16:15 Judge Star: And you are not going to sit here on this room with me, and cry over somebody that (gavel bangs) does not deserve your tears! Absolutely not! 18:22 Judge Star: "Pay for your own stuff."

I’m in shock 😳 hopefully she finds her worth, because this is definitely not it!!💯

When Robert said "BOMBA" in disbelief, I done lost it there 🤣🤣🤣

I'm praying for her🙏🏽 She's a WIFE just not his. She deserves better. The Lord will provide! Update: She kept a secret for FIVE years about something that was one of the foundational reasons they connected to being with.. BUILDING A FAMILY! She could've easily said, honey YES i want kids, but my tubes are tied. I'll get them untied when the time is right..etc! HE DESERVES BETTER too!!!

He needs to run fast. He is too young to be dealing with someone's grown kids. She needs to get herself an older man.

Not gonna lie, I think she went a bit too hard on them. Hes not using her, he clearly said he pays bills and ahe didnt dispute it. Shes more traditional minded, so she wanted him to make more money. But hes young and fun. Shes gorgeous, makes money, and though loud and talkative, is highky intelligent; both have attractive personalities. To me, the problem is the age gap and financial roles. I believe she tried to mold him into something (help him make more money than her) that didn't come to fruition, so she decided to take control by flaunting her finances. He couldn't get to the level she wanted, and most people expect their significant other to help ehen they need things, but saw she was willing to give and he took it a bit too far because she clearly has the money. She started taking this as manipulation(i think he just uses her for big funding), but she holds this against him and manipulates as well and demasculates him(remember, hes young, not hard for an older woman to do. Her performance at the end also have mr this thoughtas well). They should def break up, but neither are bad people, just different wants at clearly diff stages in life.

He isn’t a user she is just trying to buy him with her money!

I wish judge Lynn could have had this case

I yelled and screamed and shook my head in disbelief and laughed. Every reaction and emotion you could think of. I loved this episode. The drama. Oh my!!!!

The amount of drama in this ep is golden globe status 🍿

I feel like there's a deeper issue with her, emotionally and psychologically that she needs to address separately from him.

Star Jones's list was on point, nothing but the truth. I'm embarrassed for her, BOTH OF THEM REALLY

I would love a follow up on this case

I must admit I like Star as the judge on this show. She has a fresh approach where she looks at things logically and not with all the emotions and dramatics. 👍🏾

Start started off as biased but then she figured it out in the end.

That man was not a user. Idk why they tried to create that narrative. She’s so wrong.

I didn’t like how Judge Star jumped to conclusions. Hear both sides completely before attacking someone. The woman is desperate for a ring and he’s checked out of the relationship. Who wouldn’t. She acting embarrassed of him, but she made the decision to shack up. She knew it would have been a deal breaker if she told him she tied her tubes so she kept it secret for 5 years. 5 years HE can’t get back.

I can't with her desperation. Crying big buckets of tears over this dude begging him trying to force a proposal. He's talking about robbing him of his manhood when it's already gone - he has her paying his medical/ dental bills, car notes, for parties he can't afford... He compares a restaurant reservation to $800 bills, $ 2,800 loans, etc...Like he's dropping $100s, but she's dropping $1,000s... That doesn't compare. She's asking him for a baby & he was talking to her about having them early on knowing d*mn well she can't have any children & he clearly doesn't want any with her... They are living a lie. Like Judge Star said - they're some of the most dysfunctional people I've ever seen who deserve each other🤦🏾‍♀️.

Ill be damned if i had three grown kids whod see me like this. Our community must elevate

He was using her as a financial resource but for her to tell such a huge lie I'm not surprised she attracted someone who would drain her of all her resources.

Wait: She got her own 💍????🤔🤔 oh this is embarrassing. Omg. She's begging. I'm done. Ugh🚶🏾‍♀️And she lied about having her tubes tied. Throw away the whole woman!!🤮

She was manipulative, and she cried big tears as soon as he said he agreed she stopped crying. That's why she wanted him away from her family.

The fact that her name Chiffona... chiffon in French means used piece of cloth/napkin... goes very well with her attitude right now 🤦‍♀️ and what Judge Star said.

Now we know why he couldn’t meet the family because then he would find out that she had her tubes tied 20 years ago

I feel bad for him. He's blind and doesn't realize that if he ever decides to marry this woman, his marriage will be absolutely miserable. You can see right through her b*llsh*t. She's controlling, manipulative, selfish and she's obviously trying to have the balls in the relationship. I hope he runs and doesn't look back.

They are actors this was clear...

No she didn't try to force him into marriage. She talking about being embarrassed in front of her family but now they're all going to see this! She is so beautiful and her self esteem is on the floor!

That boy don’t care about her at all it’s a game to him she should’ve never embarrassed herself like this and she got kids out here

Judge Star is so fashionable! She's doing amazing at this role 😍