Such great acting. You see him go from a confident young man, to a scared kid during that walk. It can't be understated how amazing Charlie Sheen was before he went batshit.
@@TheStuport “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
@@davidpitchford6510 I will offer this much....back in my Cheech and Chong Days, I'm convinced I had Staring Contests with The Abyss!🤣 I'm grateful to have survived my Party Days!
Michael Douglas often talks about how after the film young men would constantly be praising him for the Gekko character, not for his performance but as a “role model”. He would be flabbergasted and tell them “I was THE BAD GUY!” A good indicator of what our society has become
This is the disgusting system we've allowed a subversive element to build around us. Carl Fox is a chump. Gordon Gekko is the ideal. Gambling and scamming are the only ways to get ahead. And it's only gotten worse since this movie was filmed.
Those 1980's office scenes are great! The big hair, The pouty if not sexy looking secretaries, the clunky 086 monochrome desktop monitors, the pinstripes and suspenders, and the three-piece suites left over from the late 1970's which at this time wasn't that far back. Plus Charlie looks like a kid and Martin still looks much as he did in his earliest films.
There's nothing like walking into a room, saying your "good mornings", and knowing at the same time the next few days are going to be a disaster. This movie got that right.
Excellent ending to a great Charlie Sheen movie. Michael Douglass is spot on Gordon Gecko. I was 25 when this movie came out. The apartment that Charlie Sheen was living in was just a block away from where my brother was living in NY. The production crew would park their trucks in front of the building taking up multiple parking spaces. I didn't know what was going on at the time until the movie was released.
Sheen's acting is very good when he's breaking down into tears while taken by the cop; you can tell he's fighting to hold the tears back, but the shame is too much to bear. The sigh at 01:52 is accompanied by him trying to hold his head high, but then slowly starts leaning down as if he's trying to bury himself out of sight.
That's beneath people these days. To do actual labor has become 'shameful' and insulting. Nevermind that trades are the fields we actually rely on. Nobody depends on marketing.
Not applicable anymore. Commission Agents play a very important role in society. Amazon, ebay , AliExpress, legal professionals etc.don't create but match buyers with sellers. World needs agents
Bud crying as he’s perp walked out of the office was such an awesome directorial touch. He could have just had his head down, or even been defiant and petulant in order save face. But in that moment he showed that he knew all along that what he was doing was immoral and wrong.
But That Wasn't Even Charlie Sheen As Bud Fox's Fault! He Was Set Up By Michael Douglas As Gordon Gekko And Because Those Damn Law Enforcements Have To Arrest The Hero And Not The Villain, I Have A Warning Massage From The Legacy Legendary Music Superstar The N.W.A. Rap Band "F*** The Police".
He knew what was going to happen when he did it. He should have kept the dignity of walking out not proud but aware you've got consequences to face. The way most of the office acts is what bugs me. Bunch of hypocrites acting appalled and shocked, as if most of them would never do anything shady.
Girly man quote. Couldn't stand buds father in this movie , or that goody too shoe old man clown that kept trying g to give bud advice he never asked for. Me and my buddies in college always knew the real hero in this movie is gecko..winners , win. Winners are shrewed and bend the rules , but don't break them. Oliver stone is a great director, but a commie who hates on the rich and capitalism, but of course sees nothing g wrong in himself trying to get as rich as possible!
I loved this movie which I saw during high school. After college I went to work on Wall Street as an investment banker and while I still love this movie (and have watched it over 100x), it still amuses me that Bud was a stock broker and even told his dad “soon I’ll be moving over the the investment banking side.” Stock brokers were a dime a dozen. This would have been more realistic if Bud had been working on M&A deals as an analyst but I think most people would more easily know “stock broker” instead of “investment banking financial analyst.”
Did you know that Capitalism is playing a roll in Climate Change and the ever increasing heat waves, flooding events, drought and now..agriculture losses?
@@phreak761 Just like the 55 million years Climate Change event of the Paleocene Eocene, humans will eventually push north of the 49th parallel and then into the arctic to create new cities as the rest of Earth becomes extinct! Dr James Hanson waned the Senate the consequences of increasing co2 emissions that blocks heat and will make earth over heat.
@@climeaware4814 No, you are wrong. The wealth created by capitalism allows for nations to deal with a myriad of “problems”, whether naturally occurring climate change or some other fashionable cause. Poverty that is the result of communism/socialism would leave the world poorer, as has been proven over and over in history. Just compare North and South Korea to see which economic system is superior.
Interesting portrayal of Gecko in this scene. He is obviously infuriated that someone got one over on him. But more than anything else, he seems genuinely hurt by what went down.
@@RideAcrossTheRiverI think he cared about wanting Bud to be successful but it was still in his own warped way like he was more like a project than a friend.
My guess is that in the acting business, those who are in charge of casting take a look at an actor's photo and typecast the person for a specific role.
Jeez... I remember that Uniform. We would wear our leather duty belt just below our waist, so we wouldn't get stomach rubs. And, I also remember using a belt keeper as a cuff holder...it always worked better and u never lost your cuffs when you collared someone, who resisted. The hat looks good, my hat never fit right....was either too tight or too high. Memories......of the way we were.....lalalala...
@@johnbardy373 I invest in the stock market so u can say im living off the buying and selling of others....im as guilty as Gordon haha...i dont work for a hedge fund or anything..just a normal dude investing in stocks. I do work a full time job..i dont live off stock trading. Im not that good or smart enough at it.
Back in the eighties as a young man, our generation was trying to forget about the sixties and seventies with protesting about the establishment. We wanted to be a part of the establishment and make money. This film is highly symbolic of that time period. "Greed, for a lack of a better word, was good."
I was 21 back in 1987. Right then and there the boomers were selling out America. I believe in capitalism but Rand was right about those sinister criminals who would break any law to make money for themselves.
And the result of that was captured in _Money Never Sleeps_ or, better yet, _Margin Call_ and, better still, _The Big Short._ There is no nobility in greed.
Class? What the Hell are you talking about? He screwed Bud and his father personally, and then was idiotic enough to meet him and provide evidence for his own prosecution.
@@Psycho-Nomics I’m not sure what your point is. Today in that same city, kids shoot each other in the face for mere disrespect-have you lived in a city? Gecko hated this man, yet had the class to throw him a handkerchief so he didn’t get blood on his suit. I suppose you don’t understand this gesture and that’s totally fine. But I’m guessing the people that liked my statement do.
When ever I happen to catch this ending on TV I have to stop and watch it all over again as I love how he is faced with a bleak reality about to come down on him and he decides to do the right thing even if it still meant he was going to jail anyway. It's about having an actual conscience and moral compass in this screwed up world. Its about how you are able to look in the mirror in the morning and be able to live with yourself and face life day by day. This movie more then any other I can remember, continues to reinforce that most important of life lessons better then any other film I have ever seen and I will never forget it and always stop to watch it and show others whenever I can. Thank you Oliver Stone.
As the closing of "Wall Street" shows, I believe that it's the only picture where the lead character, Bud Fox (Charlie Sheen), effectively has three "fathers." There's Charlie's natural father, Carl Fox (Martin Sheen). There's Lou Mannheim (Hal Holbrook), Bud's moral compass, with his sage advice. And there's Gordon Gekko (Michael Douglas), almost the antithesis of Lou Mannheim.
@James Feldman that’s astute … and it makes perfect sense, in Platoon his character had a duality of fathers, Barnes and Elias, and that both films were directed by Stone.
Funny story: Oliver Stone had to play hardball with the producers to cast Michael Douglass(they didn't believe he could pull off this role), and during filming Stone told Douglass to his face that he wasn't good enough for the role. Douglass was shocked by this and redoubled his efforts to perfect the character of Gekko and he won an Oscar for his work in this movie. Oliver Stone of course was only motivating him and he got the best out of Douglass because of it. That's what makes a great director.
The big banks didn’t technically do anything illegal. Normal the market would be sensible enough to not want to buy up bad debt. But the idea that homes never go down in value and you can always evict and find another buyer immediately was flawed logic when looked at at scale during a massive financial meltdown.
For those of you interested this movie is based to some degree on the Ivan Boesky ring. I believe there is a great book called "Den of Thieves" that goes into all the insider trading. The Bud Fox character is based loosely on Dennis Levine and some other people in the ring. I believe one of the accused was arrested in this manner and that he cried when he was paraded through the office. Basically you had a ring of individuals who knew each other through schools they attended or work and passed information back and forth about pending deals. Levine had his own ring but became in involved with Boesky. Levine had netted about 11 million (about 40 million in todays money) from illegal trading when through a fluke he came under SEC investigation. What happened was Levine was so completely perfect on all of his trades that others (who knew him as Mr. Diamond) started to copycat his trades. Eventually a girlfriend of someone in Brazil?? wrote a letter to SEC saying her boyfriend was trading on insider info. This fluke eventually led to Levine. Levine and Boesky had been passing information to each other and so Levine cut deal and flipped Boesky in and that's Wall Street. Gekko is based on Boesky.
@@jamesnewman8659 Boesky flipped and went after his buddy the junk bond king Milken. Eventually he got Milken to make some incriminating statements on tape and that was the end of Milken. Btw although the scene of arresting Bud Fox was based on a true story the fact was that kind of public arrest and spectacle was completely unnecessary as most of the accused had counsel and turned themselves in for processing. That type of "in office" arrest was done to terrify others.
They took more risks. Older films were so much better than what we have now. Now everything has be a superhero film or running off an existing franchise. Very seldom you’ll see something off the beaten track willing to take a risk.
No I think we still have great films on offer today - it’s just that there are so many it’s hard to find the gems. But that’s the point of cinema I guess, go watch and find the next one you like.
Charlie strolling through the office reminds me back in the days walking into class after an exam thinking I got an A no worse than a B but ended up with a D or F
A journalist confronted a politician over inside information and he said his children’s private schools were expensive and he had to finance his retirement. Completely lack of self awareness.
I hate office work places. I known that feeling when your co-workers stare you down that something that you did that day or that week was a very serious offense and you're about to get canned. While I broke no laws--I do know that "you're about to lose your job" feeling just from the looks on the faces of your fellow wage slaves in the bowels of the slave ship. This is why I got a CDL license to drive big rig trucks. Much rather work alone and out in the world than stuck in an office all day and working with people that you absolutely hate, but you get to see more than your own family. Fuck that shit! I'm done!
It's why I went for industrial maintenance with my GI Bill when I got out and went to vocational school. In maintenance I consider us rather like warrant officers-a class of our own based on skills that grants us a degree of autonomy and not being chained to a damned machine in production. I clock in, go to my work truck and answer calls.
Except now, offices are disappearing. More and more places are going to "work from home". While you're stuck in some other state, waiting to get loaded and missing your family, the 'office' people will be at home with theirs.
With the way the world has changed in the last two years I’m happy I have only been inside the office once. I’ve had that office interaction twice with the looks and the second time with fear as I was looking for some neck to grab. Now I’m working away from the office and learning more, learning to run heavy equipment, and being trusted with more.
"50...a hundred million dollars, Buddy. A player...or nothing." In 1987, the cutoff for the Forbes 400 was 250 million. Bill Gates was at 900 million (I still have the 87' Forbes 400 magazine). Corporate raiders making 40 million or so off of either takeovers, or green mail, were the rock stars of Wall Street when this movie came out. Now, it's a rounding error in the worth of the Forbes 400 member's net worth.
Yep, and the Democrats are the ones who defend and protect "Corporations", some Republicans believe in small businessess and lots of competition....the only just way for a society.
Wolf of Wall Street is another movie that is a representative of the 1980s Era of excessive greed. The difference is about a real person. Sort of like a real life version of Gordon Gekko.
@@krugerm1 You will not go to jail for reacting appropriately to a coworker walking into an office of FBI. Saying the FBI is here for you or looking for you isn’t illegal. Who t f told you that? It’s their job to detain him and chase him not yours. Saying exactly what you saw is never illegal. If this wasn’t Hollywood he wouldn’t have made it to the office, they would have got him in the lobby, the elevator, at home, a million and one locations and you telling someone the FBI is here will not have any impact. Besides being perfectly legal to say. Why the fk are you people so scared? Why do you think words should ever be considered illegal? What fking country do you think this is? It isn’t an authoritarian regime just yet, and this is based in the 80’s.
A parade I never thought about that but yeah the first time I saw that I threw a pencil at the TV was a bunch of low life workers not one of those m************ said anything freaks I think jan tried to give him the eye like there's trouble in there but she was so shocked that she couldn't say anything like she knew she wasn't going to have a boss anymore. Nobody else tried anything except the old man who gave him the abyss quote people suck and he did help his co-workers make more money for that stupid company.
@@yes3443 Trying to blame corruption on money rather than the ACTUAL corrupt politicians who actually do corrupt acts to aquire said money, actually proves your own ignorance, indoctrination and/or idiocy...
I love Martin Sheen plays Car Fox ! He also delivers the true moral lesson, as simple and cheesy as it it may sound to some people out there. Yes it's very sad that so many people did not understand the simple fact that Gekko was the bad guy.
@@starguy2718 Actually, that is outside the purview of the U.S. Marshal's Service. The SEC, on their website, states that they would coordinate with an investigative law enforcement agency to make arrests on insider trading cases. A FBI agent would be the individual that would have effected the arrest. If the case involved taxes, an agent from the Internal Revenue Service would be the one to effect the arrest.
@@Steven_Edwards I understand your point but those on his level know that self incrimination is beyond untouchable and therefore they never do it. Not even in private. Deny, deny, deny. It's their code.
Its enjoyable to be the villain in fiction, but there's a far cry of difference between liking WW2 games where you play the German Reich and being a neo nazi or doing confederacy re-enacting vs. being a KKK member. There's a catharsis to being the victimizer, but crossing the line to actually thinking the villain is good is psychotic and delusional.
Damn, they paraded him out like a Target team member doing the walk of shame. Made sure he got the full tour of the store, from electronics to soft lines.
Never experienced/seen the walk of shame as a TM, but maybe it was region-dependent? Here in the Midwest people just disappeared and you never would see them again on the floor hahah
@@armacanqui I knew there would be skeptics from reading the Kool aid site. You know, the BR. Anyway I saw two . It depends who your SD was, forgot what SD were called back then. He really did have the cops walk with the TM through the store.
Deep in the heart of the Brazilian jungle there are tribespeople who have had no previous contact with Western Civilisation who could see that punch coming.
One of my all time favorite movies. I know every line of it by heart, just like The Shining. This movie encapsulates its perspective of the 80's as perfectly as The Breakfast Club, Less Than Zero, and Wargames do theirs. It never gets old.
I actually enjoyed it ..thought it was a good story line ..greed ..transcends time ..there’s always a new group of money whores in the generational hopper ..
Wolf of wall street is a great movie and destined to be a classic. Leonardo decapio gives a much better performance as the protagonist, then sheen could ever dream of giving. Both movies are great. Wallstreet however is iconic! But not because of Charlie sheen.
Totally. And the idea that he wouldn’t have suspected Fox was wired is ridiculous. I guess you’re supposed to believe he was so pissed at him for blowing up the Blue Star deal he had to meet him to give him a smack.
It was hubris,his ego was bruised by the BlueStar deal and he wanted to gloat over Bud’s apparent downfall,the fact that Bud would be wired didn’t entered his mind,he felt that Bud wanted the meeting to to plead for help, and to see him broken…..
Stone saw this as a morality tale with the hard working union guy dad and the old time experienced stock market head as the good guys- but funnily enough everyone wanted to be Bud Fox and Gordon Gekko.
Imagine finishing a perfectly good movie, then 20 years later thinking "you know what, yeah. Let's get Shia Labouef in this. He'll make this great. He'll turn this into a trilogy!"
Wall Street a Morality tale & done well.You see the long term effects of bad decisions & the short sightedness. I wish Hollywood still did movies like this. But now unfortunately Hollywood's morality compass is out of whack.
A perfect scene, the entire atmosphere so unique, they probably worked for this particular moments for such a long time! Shot within an empty park while it's raining - the cloths are stylish as hell, winter mood, classy weather, everything assembled together into one short but perfect scene, the New York sky line at the background is so pretty... perfect! Great movie, New York at it's best!
The thing about this scene I've never understood is after Bud wiped the blood off his face and threw Gordon's handkerchief on the ground, why in the world did Gordon pick it up and put it in his pocket? I mean it's a simple white handkerchief. Not like it's gold plated. And now it's got somebody else's blood on it? Why do that? I mean, seriously, why bother? He couldn't possibly be that short on men's accessories.
It’s symbolism. The white handkerchief was a symbol for a white flag of surrender and blood on his hands which Budd later handed over to Gekko to incriminate him later to police.
What a great ending scene, especially the segment in Central Park. The sound of rolling thunder, settling in right after Gordon cleans Bud’s clock, was epic cinema. Michael Douglas could not have been any more intimidating in this movie. Great stuff !!
@@Tommy1977777 Getting caught and punished for a crime is predicated upon having to be *found* guilty of the crime itself as the next step. Just because someone may have gotten away from being caught by law enforcement and then subsequently charged & found guilty by the DA and the court system respectively doesn't mean they weren't guilty of a crime. They broke the law - THAT'S A FACT, PERIOD!!! Whether they are then *proven* guilty or not is an entirely different matter. Let's say somebody's a child molester who sexually abuses and rapes young girls. GUESS WHAT, DUDE - they're guilty of a crime! Are you going to now tell me that individual didn't do anything wrong just because they were able to stay ahead of the law and avoid prosecution? COMMON SENSE, DUDE! 🙄🙄🤣🤣
I was in New York last week on holiday from the UK and just only a week ago, I spent a day taking a load of pictures of the film locations of my favourite films shot in Central Park including Wall Street and Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps plus the Supreme Court used for the ending scene in Wall Street. I'm just so pleased I've found all the locations where those scenes were shot over in Sheep Meadows and next to Tavern on the Green (but I didn't go inside there in the end).
Such a great film…. seems like a long time ago now… the US of the late 1980s is gone…. The speculators stole it …. That mood music and visual at the end still gives me chills….
That PART I think he was trying to say that but he could not articulate that in time But you could see it on his face that he was trying to say something more
What I hate about this ending is, he saved all those people's careers. He helped them make all sorts of money and when it got dark everyone turned there back on him no one could even look him in the face and say any words of encouragement. They got what they got a d that's that buy bud smh.
This happened to someone in my family. hes doing great now, the stress sent him to the doctor. They found out he had serious problem with his heart. In a way it saved his life.
The learning lesson here is what he did in this movie can easily be replicated and thousands are doing it in the world today screwing over everyone else.
I watched a doc on the clothes in the film. One of the designer/tailors was Alan Flusser. He purposely designed Gekko's clothes certain way to portray power. Bud had simpler styling with suits and casual wear to portray him lower on the power hierarchy.
5:15. “Yeah, I did the right thing. Think maybe you could throw in an aggravated assault charge in there? You heard him beating the piss outta me right?”
