Pro tip: If you go to a seminar/interview like this and within 10 mintes they start talking about how they or someone there makes loads of money, it's probably a scam.
Actual legit high paying jobs tend to just straight up discuss salary structures and bonus structures (if they offer it). People usually start businesses or take what they learn from their careers to do consult to actually get rich.
I once sat through an "interview" like this when I was about 19. About halfway in I got up and walked out. The guy seemed surprised and told me, in front of the other interviewees, to enjoy my time at McDonalds. I was trying to leave quietly, but instead I turned around and told the group that this wasn't an interview, it was a mass hiring, and they were being pitched. Wonder how many lasted more than a week? Not sure how I knew it was a scam at that age, but I was absolutely correct.
I worked at the same boiler room as one of the writers of this movie. We both got this same speech almost word for word. Same with the on the floor training like, "Never pitch the bitch." Movie was so dead on for the experience. The scam was different, but the whole atmosphere was right. This movie should be required viewing for anyone wanting to deal with brokers from a cold call.
@@ppstorm_ I don't think you have any idea how many boiler rooms there were in the 90's. Thousands of them all across the country. It was common for many young men to work at these places back then. I am originally from New York and personally knew a few friends that worked at different firms.
@@ppstorm_nobody cares what you're saying any more or less than what the other comment said. when someone challenges you in a comment on youtube and you feel the need to justify yourself, that feeling is realisation setting in.
He was also starting with a simple reaction test to see who he could weed out. Fortunately, the test caught one and he quickly used it as an object lesson.
Affleck does well with this tricky monologue. He’s not just giving a douchy, cocksure motivational speech, he’s playing a douchy, cocksure dude who’s watched Glengarry Glenn Ross a million times and is ripping off the beats of that speech, in a less creative way
I like Affleck. I'm not sure why. A decent actor he is not though. Whole monologue was mediocre at best. Only reason you get fired up is because of the movie and Ribisi who is a mch better actor, though he hasn't shown it much. Perhaps in only a handful of movies he's done.
This is just like the sales pitch we got for Cutco kitchen ware. The hiring managers entire speech depended on us wanting to go to the annual year end top sales party in Vegas. He promised us cash, girls and other things he cant not mention cause its vegas.
Unfortunately, a lot of Cutco "managers" are early 20s, and have no idea what real success looks like. I worked 3 years for Cutco around 20 years ago. I had an amazing manager who taught me the sales skills I needed in my next business. I didn't become a millionaire selling Cutco, almost no one does. However, Cutco gave me the skills I needed to become a millionaire in the financial services business I started after Cutco.
@seizetheday2890 honestly I loved their knives and my favorite are the scissors. The manager we had at the time was real young guy probably like 21 and got a branch of his own for hitting high numbers.
I went through the whole procedure of such a company. First the "group interviews" then more one on one. After 2 weeks of back and forth it dawned me that the company needed new recruits to get their friends and families to become clients. I fucked off luckily before embarrassing myself by bringing along a bunch of acquaintances
@@karoliskevalas752 no it never came to that. It was however crazy that they wanted me to bring friends and family as clients. Oh and all of this without a contract. The contract wouod be signed in 2-4 months depending onhow many clients i brjng
Yep. That broker would have seen what was up right away. The new ones were taught only what they needed to know to pass the series 7 not the intricacies of securities regulations and how illegal their activities were.
Which is why his best movie was "The Accountant" -- his character is a high-functioning autistic. Can you say "type-cast"? He was perfect. (It's also a brilliant movie in its own right.)
@@mikekell920 This movie is dead on, balls accurate (it's an industry term) of the experience of working at a real boiler room. Cheese and all. I worked at the same boiler room as one of the writers of this movie. The only thing inaccurate in the movie is the scam they pulled.
Very possible. I think there are definitely jobs out there where you work your butt off would would be a millionaire within 3 years. The key is they make it hard to tell if they push so hard because they need a constant churn of new blood(i.e. a glorified pyramid scheme) or they really are that good.
Well the line about his smile was obviously a joke. All he had and he was still a miserable twatbag. You never see romanticized stories of small town farmers/Carpenters/fulltime van campers/adventurist/ etc quitting their jobs to become stock brokers. You never see a Christmas movie about a young woman from the happy country move to the city to become a callous self hating jerk.
@@jeremykothe2847 Ah true. It's subtle that he frames it that they "want to create reps rather than retrain old ones". The thing that puzzles me if even in the pre internet age, that someone would trust some guy they've never met over the phone to invest thousands of dollars into.
I went to an interview for a company doing some kind of investments, they were recruiting people like this, young people with no job experience. Turns out it was a scam, I went back the next day and the place was closed down by authorities lol
Okay. Anyone that’s had any sales experience can relate to this “group interview”. Dog eat dog, no BS culture. Ahhh, the good ole days. I can still taste that hours old coffee 😂
I'm a Financial Advisor now. This was my first firm (one just like it) I used to come home n tell my wife I should write a script about it. Srry I didnt😢
@@mattm7798 The entire operation is a pump-and-dump scam. They use the recruits to hype up a worthless stock, sell their own shares at inflated prices and then close shop when the stock tanks and everyone else loses money. The only people who make any real money are the inner circle who are in on the scam.
@@mattm7798 He spoke the truth about himself.....but you should watch the movie. It's an interesting movie. Margin Call was another low key movie underrated movie.
Maybe it was my upbringing, I've always been told to be suspicious of authorities and their motives, so I've been lucky enough to not get lured into those kinds of businesses.
They tell you the same shit when you go to a Kirby vacuum presentation. When I realised who they were I was out the door before others had even sat down.
Same here. The Ben Affleck character in my interview told everyone we needed to pay $500 for “training” and had to relocate to another state if required. I laughed and walked out. As I left, I could hear the guy telling everyone else not to be as dumb as the guy that just left.
@@Banzai51 I've been in auto sales and finance for almost 30 years and have learned that people with money don't sell as well as people without it. I would not hire that guy with the illegal casino for that reason.
Nice little detail I don't see talked about is how he tells the guy at the start to get out of his chair, but then never actually sits in it. Just a powerplay
This is like a slightly more intense version of the scam business that tried to get me and a bunch of others to sell air purifiers for them, right down to the interview lead bragging about their earnings
What would be the point of even saying it at all. There simply isn't any in their logic. If they breathe, they should sell (bogus) stock. Someone who gets personal at that early point is not focussed and not interested in things running smoothly either.
@@udirt Or, it’s just really bad writing that isn’t remotely realistic to happen for sitting in a random open chair before a guy you’ve never met walks in for it. Nothing really that intricate about it, the movie is just horrible lmao. Or, like somebody else said, it was a plant to set an example. But, since the movie sucked so bad to begin with, I doubt the writer thought that far ahead. Whoever the screenwriter is comes off as some modern day Reddit nerd that never leaves the basement but talks about being an alpha and how edgy they are.
People should be this hyped up by the opportunity to go to a top 10 school and study Computer Science, Finance, Law or Medicine. Millionaire status guaranteed.
You know the writer of this scene was telling himself, “yeah, this is the Always. Be. Closing. speech and I’m nailing it”. Fine movie. Laughable monologue.
@@shapiroshekelberg604 Unironically? Yes. Boys were taught how to shoot and maintain rifles, throw grenades, create defensive entrenchments, survive in the wilderness, march in a parade with elegant efficiency, operate as a unit, fight with their hands and daggers, and even had introductions to the military like riding in tanks and armored cars with the Wehrmacht and shooting artillery pieces. The indoctrination to fight and die for the Reich aside (honestly, every nation's boys should be inspired to struggle for its survival), the boys learned self- and collective-discipline, duty, hygiene, valor, teamsmanship, sportsmanship, athletic improvement, civic labor, and overall toughness (they'd get the boys into groups and just let them have at one another like a giant brawl and you'd be applauded for holding their own and taking scars, bumps, and bruises). Boys would work together, fight together, toil together, suffer together, and achieve together in a brutally realist way the Boy Scouts could only dream of and every German vet I've talked to looked back on their time in the HY with yearning and pride. It made strong, civically-minded, courageous boys with a hardened identity, camaraderie, and identity at a time when they needed direction and structure the most. If America had the right regime and a comparable program, I'd put my own children in. Before it got gay and effeminate, the BSA was the best part of my youth and I made so many friends but, it didn't go far enough and has since succumbed to Leftist decay.
I worked at “the quiet company,” Northwestern Mutual.” They weren’t this brash but the guys we were to admire came off like this. I agree with their purpose (whole life insurance), HATE the methods.
Yeah I had a guy who had a primerica office and every week he had a group of people telling them they were future hundred thousand a year people. This was in the mid 90s. When he would see me he would say in front of the group when you gonna come work for me and make some real money? I ignored him for a few weeks then finally in front of the group I said as soon as you show me proof you make a hundred grand and offer health insurance .And start driving some thing better than a hyundai accent. He stopped bugging me after that
if someone tells me im gonna make 1million in 3 years i will leave as soon as he said it. If something sounds too good to be true, 99.99% of the time it usually is
I knew a guy who once worked for Grant Cardone. His "firm" is full of young grads who they groom to be boiler room salespeople. Yep, Cardone makes his money pushing expensive courses and "real estate investments" that are basically scams.
What's really funny to me is that when I first saw this movie I was salivating at the thought of a million dollars and having a Ferrari 355. Now a million dollars is a Tuesday for me. I drive a C8 Z06 which makes a 355 look like a POS and live in a multi-million dollar home. This movie lit a fire under my ass and I'm grateful for the motivation. Now I do whatever the fuck I want.
