Walther Parrus .22 Cal Air Rifle "Full Review" by Airgun Detectives

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This is a full and complete review of the German engineered Walther Parrus in .22 Caliber. This is a magnum air rifle powered by a spring piston. We will provide you an unbiased detailed review and will show you the performance. #staytunedforairgundetectives
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@threestarsandasling 3 года назад

Just got the Parrus at Pyramyd and waiting for it to be delivered. Heading over now to your site for thr bipod!! So excited to use this gun. Love your review!

@AirgunDetectives 3 года назад

Carlo, that is a great rifle, especially for the price point. Thank you for supporting Airgun Detectives 👍😉

@zeeshanpandhiani1447 4 года назад

Thanks. Very nice and complete detailed review

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

Thank you for watching and I appreciate your comments 😊

@richardstroud7945 2 года назад

Excellent reviews, keep up the great work..!!

@mojah1 3 года назад

Enjoyed your review. unlike other reviews out there this one was really interesting to watch, well done using measuring equipment. Thanks for sharing.

@AirgunDetectives 3 года назад

I appreciate you watching and thank you for the comments 👍😉

@michaelh8102 4 года назад

I was just looking at this Rifle, great timing, and another fantastic review! Keep up the great work! Thank you!

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

Thanks Michael! Get it while you can there is come really good sales out there!!

@petegower2031 4 года назад

Weihrauch or Diana, the trigger is rubbish,

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

@@petegower2031 the trigger is the weak link but it is a lower $200 dollar German made rifle. As you saw in my review I specifically mentioned the trigger and that is why it didn't get top marks. But I can't argue with the accuracy. These rifles have great accuracy. When I get time I want to disassemble the trigger mechanism to see if it can be improved. You can't beat the Rekord trigger, my personal favorite, or the T05/T06 but those guns are a much higher price point. The Walther is much more affordable to many and provides a German made gun with great accuracy. Thanks for watching and I appreciate your feedback 👍😉

@draoudeffargur350 4 года назад

Great riffle and great review, thank you ! 👏👏👏👏

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

Thanks again for watching!

@petegower2031 4 года назад

Trigger is rubbish compared to the top German guns Weihrauch and Diana

@scottrobertson9452 2 года назад

Good in depth and honest review. This might be my next springer. The group you shot doesn't get any better!

@AirgunDetectives 2 года назад

They are no longer manufactured so if you can find one grab it!

@nickyakuza4247 3 года назад

Very good review! Walther air rifles are really good. Especially LGV and LGU.

@Tony-1454 3 года назад

Got the parrus in .22 here in Canada, love it so much! The interesting thing is mine is shooting 40-50 + FPS more than yours, and it shoots like a dream, I’d highly recommend it to anyone looking to buy one, it’s honestly so surprising that the parrus didn’t get more hype because it’s such a great gun for such a low price! Especially German engineering for that low of a price! the quality is great, literally seems unbreakable, also the accuracy is unbelievable for a magnum springer, putting out about 26 fpe, well mine does atleast, I’d suggest buying one before they are out of stock everywhere

@newfanerelichuntersgr4906 4 года назад

Subscribed and ordered two sets of your bipod kit. These will be mounted on my Hatsan 22 cal 125 vortex sniper and my 30 cal 135 qe carnivore. I love your channel and reviews. Nice unbiased review of the Walther Parrus. Thanks for sharing, stay healthy, and God Bless, Greg

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

Hi Greg, I will get those out to you this morning. You will really like shooting off those. I appreciate you watching and thank you for taking the time to leave some comments. I hope you and your family are staying safe and healthy 👍🙂

@newfanerelichuntersgr4906 4 года назад

Thanks, I have been looking for a bipod set-up for these 2 rifles. I use them for squirrel and rabbits. My friends thought I was nuts to hunt with an airgun(s) until they saw the results. Thanks again👍🇺🇸

@MrPrimoPR 3 года назад

For those that already have this gun it responds very well to a tune where you can install a Vortek chrome vanadium 135 / 35 coil spring and polish the trigger components. I did this with my two Walther Parrus 22s one with the polymer stock and other with wood stock - they both shoot the CP 14.3s at 930 FPS and are just as accurate or if not more than the Parrus reviewed in this video. The trigger of this rifle is not as smooth as the Diana TO6 or the HW Reckord but it is a very good trigger for hunting and it is solidly built. The Parrus is top of the line German workmanship. I also the wood stock model in 177 which is excellent right out of the box and needed no tuning- shoots the CP 7.9g at 1010 FPS very accurate. I got my 3 Parrus at very low prices because I guess they weren’t selling the way they intended so as to compete with the Diana 350 - great for me I got the at burnout prices and I’m very happy.

@anikibrother7691 3 года назад

Hi there . I'm looking at the Parrus for hunting small game. I'm new this, so would the parrus be a good gun without tuning ? I'm also looking at the ruger magnum.

@hassansaleem8840 4 года назад

Thanks for the review. Please also do a hands on PCP diana outlaw or stormrider

@lexblack8306 4 года назад

I love the german air rifles got the weihrauch hw 97k my self this one looks very nice to❣Nice video👍👍👍

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

The German know how to build the best air rifles! Thanks for watching!

@timothyrumbinas5239 2 года назад

Another great review. I bought this in .177 and it is a monster. Even with a heavy pellet, it has a ton of velocity and lots of slap. I went to the heavier pellets because it will regularly break the sound barrier with anything less than 10 grains. When I was about 10, my dad brought back a match-grade Springfield 30-06 from Picatinny Arsenal, where he was working on a construction job. Shooting the Parrus is similar. It's not a particularly user-friendly shooting experience It will shoot the scope off if you don't invest in solid mounts, and it has as much slap as any air rifle in my stable. Oh, my, is it accurate, though, and in many cases appears to put out as much as many of my .22 caliber guns. A keeper.

@jeremyblackwater439 2 года назад

What ammo does yours like?

@ronniequalls7217 Месяц назад

I got the 177 to & shoot a 10.5 gr pellet & it’s accurate after about just 50 pellets , I found it on EBay brand new in the box 📦, I used the Air Venturi tune in a tube on it and it quietenit down good , love it !!!

@petermiller8634 2 года назад

Great honest review thank you. My Walther LGU was very accurate too but was also let down by the trigger which was a shame on an otherwise excellent air rifle.

@injairgun 3 года назад

It's a great gun! I have had mine for just over 2 years now and I got the wood stock. The Beech stock is nice but the colour was a reddish colour so I refinished it with a Walnut stain and 9 coats of Tru Oil. Fantastic stock now! The wood doesn't feature the palm swell like the syn stock does. One thing to note to you shooters just purchasing this gun, If you plan to scope the gun, PUT A SOLID QUALITY 1 PIECE mount on it! I had a set if Millet 2 piece rings and after my 5th shot I couldn't figure out why I wasn't hitting the target anymore at 25 yards. The rear mount had its mounting lips sheared off from the recoil! The lips are what tighten down into the 11mm dovetail. Other than that this is a fantastic powerful break barrel! I also share your comments on the trigger, though not a bad trigger, it isn't the best either and it's plastic! Come check us out on Facebook, Airgun Addicts Anonymous Group.

@danielmaezoalvarez5818 4 года назад

Gran rifle, muy potente y preciso. Y tiene un precio muy bueno. Saludos desde Sevilla, España

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

Es muy asequible en este momento. Hay muchas ventas que no están seguras de si descontinuarán este modelo. Muy buen valor. Gracias de nuevo por mirar!

@davidhui9347 3 года назад

Just got this gun .177 cal. today. Looking forward to shoot it. Thanks for the review.

@AirgunDetectives 3 года назад

Enjoy and Happy Shooting 👍😉

@jeremyblackwater439 3 года назад

Getting this gun in .177 on Friday according to FedEx. Any complaints? Best pellet?

@AirgunDetectives 3 года назад

@@jeremyblackwater439 In .177 I would try a heavier pellet, 10 gr. The H&N Baracuda 10.65 might be a good choice. The heavier pellet will slow down the velocity, quiet the rifles, increase your accuracy and give you more FPE. Enjoy your new rifle 😉

@jeremyblackwater439 3 года назад

@@AirgunDetectives just pulled it from the box. Mounted a 4-16x40 centerpoint on it and it feels like a big game rifle. It’s also pretty loud,but it feels well built. Did I mention the loudness? Shooting 10gr premieres 👍🏾

@runrun8239 4 года назад

Great shooting! I've heard that Walther barrels can shoot airgun slugs accurately as well, but I can't find a review on that yet...

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

I was very surprised of the accuracy on this one!!

@runrun8239 4 года назад

Airgun Detectives-Airgun Reviews I’d be surprised if Walther rifles can’t shoot ;) thank you for bringing out all the springers! Your contents are real gems among all the PCP reviews.

@bigdawg3793 4 года назад

What a really cool gun the accuracy is crazy good another good video brotha

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

Thanks DAWG!!!

@hendriknijs5809 3 года назад

I, have the parrus .22 in wood and scope nikko sterling, bullseye on 80 yards. Use a good scope because these air guns are scope killers. The pellets i use are the JSB jumbo heavy's 18,13 grain. Perfectly ! Keep up the nice video's. Greetings from the Netherlands

@AirgunDetectives 3 года назад

Thank you for tuning in and I appreciate you taking the time to leave comments. 👍😉

@michaelh3544 3 года назад

Good morning! Wanted to thank you again for this great review. Thanks to you, I finally Pulled the trigger last nite and ordered the 177. 159 bucks and free shipping from A.G.D. ! I’m assuming , only use 10.5 grain or heavier with this beast.

@AirgunDetectives 3 года назад

Experiment with some different pellets. Your rifle will show you what it like 👍

@jeremyblackwater439 2 года назад

Mine likes the 10.5 gr crosman premiers, the crosman destroyers and the H&N ftt.8.4 gr pellets

@ahmondeboxley2950 4 года назад

Nice air rifle and review as always my only negative is the same as rick said on airgun web they need to sling these air rifle other than that it's a good rifle and review

@diior3224 3 года назад

just got the .22 wood stock for $150

@juantego7614 4 года назад

I'm looking to get 2 break barrels in .22 for myself and for my son, I'm going to sell my AT-44 long .25 hatsan and purchase a Parrus and maybe a Diana 34, great review thank you.

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

Thank you for the comments and I appreciate you watching! Those are both really nice break-barrels.

@UseVisine 3 года назад

This is blowing my mind right now. You are shooting a magnum springer with a bipod. A bipod. Artillery what? May have to try this someday.

@AirgunDetectives 3 года назад

Yes..I perfected the Bipod for the breakbarrel and the under levers. They work really well. Just read some of the feedback airgundetectives.com/product/gen-2-side-mounted-bi-pod-kit/

@threestarsandasling 3 года назад

I installed mine last night after work and shot some groups in the morning. the grouping was insane. These bipods are worth the money! The Parrus is a heavy springer so a bipod is really a big help. JC is also fantastic with customer service! Real happy with my purchase.

@UseVisine 3 года назад

@@threestarsandasling Very nice. If I ever get a synthetic stocked magnum springer, I definitely want to try this out. Unfortunately, the only magnum springer I have right now is an HW80... and I just don't want to alter the stock on that one. May alter resale value down the road. But, glad to know it works on such a powerful springer as the Parrus.

@hillbillysportsman5818 4 года назад

Could you also review the Terrus also?

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

I would, but I currently do not have that model. Thanks for watching!

@paolovitale9948 2 года назад

$149 each bought 3, wood.177 wood 22 and synthetic 22 True powerful magnum and accurate, Deadly hunting machine, Golf balls at 40 yds all day long

@AirgunDetectives 2 года назад

Wow...incredible deal if you can find them. They are no longer producing this model.😉👍

@paolovitale9948 2 года назад

@@AirgunDetectives Yes,I wish They would have kept production and improved on a good platform, purchase the first one last year and once I realized how good they were I purchased 2 more, Best bang for the buck, Your reviews are top-notch, good job

@Tilbily 4 года назад

The Parrus is available in my country as well. But one thing preventing me from buying is that I don't see tune kits available anywhere. Hopefully something in the near future from ARH or Vortek ?

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

You can always just order a spring from Vortek and just pick up a piston seal and you are good to go...! Thanks for watching!!

@diior3224 3 года назад

hey i was wondering, what scope adapter rail are you using on the rifle? mine just came in and can’t seem to find the right one to purchase. thank you

@brorjordas1979 4 года назад

If not already owned a basic break barrel spring airrifle.. Ii'd might buy one of these. Seemed just fantastic. Do not really mind the trigger weight. I just personally do not shoot that much break barrels. My break barrel comes out rightabout only wheen need to actually hit something more far away with some power behind it. Otherwise I just shoot my co2 airguns - and mostly pistols.

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

I am going to take that trigger apart one of these days. If I can shave a pound off in pull weight this would be a 5 star rifle. Hope all is well Bror!!

@brorjordas1979 4 года назад

@@AirgunDetectives Nice! You go and modify that trigger. Hope it will turn out as desired. All has been well at home, thank you for asking. I did though lose my oldest and best friend due to complications of the virus 2 weeks ago. Knew him for over 35 years or so. Been having kind of a mourning period over here..

@gregkoe60 3 года назад

Pretty acurate from what i saw despite slightly heavy trigger!

@g.d.7629 3 года назад

Gas piston is the new norm. Plus springers have the recoil like ruger air magnum 9lb gun.

@anikibrother7691 3 года назад

Hello from Canada. I’m looking between the Gamo magnum jungle .22, Ruger air magnum .22, or the Walther Parrus.22 for hunting small game. Any one you recommend as a better option ? good durability under harsh weather and precision are my main criteria.

@walthermauser5161 3 года назад

Hello again. Just bought a Walther Parrus in 5.5 mm in Serbia. I have Gamo pro magnum diabolos. But they won't fit entirely in tne barrel. Is this because of the rifle or diabolos are too big?

@sgtspaulding9461 3 года назад

I picked up a BSA Outlook at your recommendation for this rifle and I think it will end up being a great combo. I’m having issues with the scope backing off the dovetail rail. Do you know if the scope rings that come with the BSA Outlook are weaver style and maybe that’s why I’m having issues? Thanks for your time and help!

@sgtspaulding9461 3 года назад

Do you know if anyone makes a scope stop for the Parrus? I can see that it has a hole on the rail about an inch from the safety.

@williamarmstrong392 4 года назад

That was a good review ! I have the Terrus in .177. It’s a very accurate gun, but hold sensitive. The trigger is about the same as the perrus. The trigger return spring is very stout too.very well made.

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

I haven't had time to take the trigger apart to see if I could lighten the pull weight. Once I do, and if I am successful, I will share my findings. Thanks for watching!

@michaelh3544 3 года назад

Can you recommend some good scopes that can handle a magnum springer ?

@CarolinaCoinHunter 4 года назад

Great shooting! It looks like you held the rifle a bit more firm than the typical artillery hold. Is that the case ?

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

No...I was shooting off the bipod which is much more stable than the artillery hold or even bag resting. I needed to make sure I had a good group on camera! b:) A magnum break-barrel requires a bit more grip than the average springer. Thanks for watching!

@CarolinaCoinHunter 4 года назад

@@AirgunDetectives Thank you !

@matthewolson4963 2 года назад

So bottom LINE!!, once AGAIN, love you're channel, what is really better quality, gas piston or Springer??

@AirgunDetectives 2 года назад

They are both excellent. You can not go wrong with either. I lean a bit towards the spring because of tuning in that you can change out springs to increase or decrease velocity.

@diior3224 3 года назад

what scope adapter rail you using ?

@KnightFox4 4 года назад

Plz also review Walther Terrus in .22 cal

@regsparkes6507 4 года назад

I've 'played ' around with the thought of buying a Parrus,...I do own the Terrus in .177 and it is a 'quality built' springer. Maybe I will buy a Parrus when and IF the price drops; here in Canada at two major on-line airgun dealers the Parrus is priced at $389CAD,..then you have to add shipping and sales taxes,...for me that would bring this rifle near $500CAD. Too high, I think for a springer rifle of this 'class' when I can buy others which are just abut as good for far less.

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

In the US we can get the .177 for about $200 and the .22 for around $250, although the .22 is becoming rare to locate these days.

@SuperdanTech 4 года назад

Unfortunately we don't have many options for buying in Canada!

@franciscopeixoto6609 4 года назад

Review the Terrus please. Salut from France

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

If and when I get one I will be happy to review it :)

@alr1285 Год назад

Just a question, what kind of scopes do you like to put on your air guns

@AirgunDetectives Год назад

It varies depending on the specific rifle. When you are talking about a PCP, there is no recoil, so your selection in optics is unlimited. When it comes to Breakbarrels you need a scope to handle the reverse recoil.

@felipefigueiredo6859 3 года назад

Hi! Congratulations for your honest and very useful reviews! I m writing from Portugal 🇵🇹! I would love to have your suggestion/recommendation regarding to a riffle purchase! I want to buy a powerful and high quality air rifle for hunting , pest control , targets etc...the options are Diana 48 , 460 mag, weirauch Hw90 ( gas ram ) and Whalter parrus. They all have similar prices here in europe ( 500/600 euros )The whalter is the cheaper( almost half of the price, about 300). However price is not an issue. I just want a very good one! Can you help! Tks

@jr9455 2 года назад

hw90 ,for sure.Spare parts without problem.At least in Spain.

@abelyerikaguerra1540 3 года назад

I have the terrus. 22 and really like it, probably more than my Diana 34.22....

@anikibrother7691 3 года назад

Hello Abel. Do you know if the difference between the Parrus and Terrus ? I am looking to buy one or the other.

@abelyerikaguerra1540 3 года назад

@@anikibrother7691 Hi yes the Terrus is more like plinking and target shooting, it's real smooth when cocking the rifle , The Parrus is more like hunting has more power, more take down power than the Terrus both rifles are nice, lve taken alot of pests with my Terrus, also Perrus a little longer rifle and stiffer to cock the rifle than the terrus, but it depends what you want it for???? If your going to hunt with it I'll go with the Perrus, if more target and plinking I'll get the Terrus hope this helps........

@anikibrother7691 3 года назад

Thanks a lot for your input. I will go with Parrus in .22 since it would be for hunting. I could also use another advice on an 500fps(legal limit in canada for non licence) for hunting small game as a second riffle. my dilemma is gaz piston vs spring, and .177 vs.22. Im looking at the benjamin trail NP .22 495fps,... anyways, do you have any riffle to recommend in this situation?

@abelyerikaguerra1540 3 года назад

@@anikibrother7691 The gas piston can be left compressed much longer than the spring..... actually the spring it's not recommended to leave it that long???? Benjamin trail is good too??? I bought the crossman diamondback. 22 NP2 same power components as the Trail but like 70.00 less, My Diamondback has more power than my Terrus , for hunting get a .22 than .177 ,but it can't compare to the Terrus with its smoothness and German qualiry...

@anikibrother7691 3 года назад

@@abelyerikaguerra1540 Thanks for the info. I may get a gas piston as a 2nd since I will be getting the Parrus in spring piston. I was also looking at the benjamin classic, spring, good reviews, but overpriced maybe.I was looking at a Gamma 495fps .22 but hard to find here. Crossman nitro venum dusk seems good also as a nitro piston ...?

@MrRandyk2 3 года назад

Hi John, I took the plunge on this one. Had a hard time resisting the current pricing, so I ordered in both 177 and 22. Your review is great-great smile from the person introducing airgundetectives!! I ordered a UTG 3-9x40, and a Hawke Vantage 3-9x40 as well. I’m just taking a leap to try and find good combinations for a better air rifle. Also wondering if you could suggest scope mounts?? One piece? Thank you! Wondering if you had time to fiddle with the trigger yet? I’m sure what to expect yet, but understand it is one of the features that might need a little touch.. Thanks again for a great review!

@g.d.7629 3 года назад

You say its spring powered or nitro piston??

@fusionwhiskychang512 3 года назад

Hi there, do you prefer Walther Parrus more or Sig ASP20 ?

@AirgunDetectives 3 года назад

The Sig ASP20 is more expensive. Both are good rifles but I would choose the Sig.

@fusionwhiskychang512 3 года назад

@@AirgunDetectives Thank you for your opinion, much appreciated, love your LGU review, I also have one in 177. cheers

@James-ms2mx 3 года назад

I'm seeing some guns with the Umarex brand in front of them. This Walther Parrus is one. Ruger Air Magnum is another. Is it the same gun or is it just Umarex's version of the same gun?

@walthermauser5161 3 года назад

No,they are not the same rifle.Ruger is a China made clon of Diana 350. Parrus is made in Germany,and it's by far better rifle.

@garyweisbrodt4440 Год назад

What kind of a log do you keep on your air guns?

@diior3224 3 года назад

what scope are you using on it in this video?

@AirgunDetectives 3 года назад

Here you go...good price too amzn.to/34tqGS0 👍😉

@markharris4724 3 года назад

How do you keep a scope on this thing

@jeremyblackwater439 3 года назад

1 piece mount

@AK-ky3ou 2 года назад

Not sure why these weren’t more popular. I can attest that the Walther s are twangless, I own a bone stock Terrus synthetic and it sounds like a slow gas ram, thud, zero twang….

@woofman4796 4 года назад

where did you find the parrus,, all i can find is the terrus

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

I have had it for a few years. Look at Wally World on-line. I just saw it for $249.00

@woofman4796 4 года назад

@@AirgunDetectives thank you, I was just curious, if i buy another spring rifle, it's going to be weihrauch,

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

The things I do for you guys!! :) www.walmart.com/ip/Walther-Parrus-22-Break-Barrel-Pellet-Air-Rifle-Synthetic-Stock-Black/51642456

@johndoee3850 9 месяцев назад

My parris is shooting 930 FPS 14 grain pellet.

@t2bkk1 3 года назад

This is .22 or .177 ?

@Signetring54 4 года назад

Does anyone know what "Parrus" means?

@Signetring54 4 года назад

Masculine- Noun- Singular Translate "parrus" to English: "Vagina" Really! LOL

@AirgunDetectives 4 года назад

Try this....Parrus Name Meaning: Its Powerful Symbolism, Destiny and Luck.

@entrigueall2661 4 года назад

Hey all. I’m new to airguns. I am thinking of ordering the Sig ASP 20 in .22 cal. This seems to be really similar.

@petegower2031 4 года назад

No the SIG is way better

@DrAgan_tortojed 2 года назад

I'm really irritated by the majority of producers not stating the max. kinetic energy of their gun with the SPECIFIED pellet. They should at least state the WEIGHT of the pellet with which one can expect such and such velocity...

@petegower2031 4 года назад

Maybe the 22 is OK but you are wasting your money on the 177, it's way over sprung, recoiling monster, by the way if you are a weihrauch or Diana fan forget this the trigger is crap, and the adjustable trigger doesn't allow you to adjust anything, it's got a piston weight up front that makes the recoil off the planet. The biggest Airgun shop in my country said this gun in either calibre was rubbish because of the trigger, and Walther should stick to making barrels! After being passed one by a friend who couldn't hit a barn door I stripped it and checked out everything! Don't buy this gun you will regret it! PG German Air rifle tuner

@mariobros8526 3 года назад

Walther saved money on trigger and in the same time they wanted to compete with rekord and T06. fully adjustable, two stage trigger is a MUST in high quality springer,

@eduardoherrera5181 3 года назад

Plastic trigger?

@AirgunDetectives 3 года назад

Yes...but military grade plastic.

@dustinh4175 3 года назад

That was a great 20 yard group for a 200 dollar german gun with just enough power for racoons

@dubon6372 2 месяца назад

I do not underatand the obsession with .22 cal !

@MrBlah3573 3 года назад

Do you ever notice that every break barrel you test groups amazing at 20? Why on earth not group test these at 30 to really separate them out? Another option would be to just drop that pointless part of the review altogether.