war hammer vs. longsword - harness fencing | malleus ictu

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This is not a representive comparison for sword vs warhammer in armored combat. It's a demonstration of a knight fight with asymetric weapons, as both are effective in their own ways. A detailed analysis of each weapons will follow soon.
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@bragagd1618 Год назад

Imagine your're a medieval farmer walking through the woods and suddenly you hear sounds of metal and see two knights trying to murder eachother.

@Skim_beeble7125 Год назад

It would be a hell of a spectacle

@Beton507 Год назад

They would be flabbergasted by the armor too

@heilmodrhinnheimski Год назад

Now imagine you’re a modern farmer walking through the woods and suddenly you hear the sounds of metal and see two knights trying to murder each other.

@JustarLad Год назад

The times they wish they had a camera

@hceelniarb 10 месяцев назад

That was an everyday thing in the holy roman empire

@camraid9 Год назад

Pleasantly surprised this popped into my feed. I would definitely like to hear in depth thoughts on how armored hammer and longsword dueling would work... It's hard for me not to see it as sheer bashing contest, where the hammer would get the opponent down first and then I guess that's doom for him.

@dequitem Год назад

I have to make some more recordings first but I will make a comparison in depth in some weeks.

@witar. 7 месяцев назад

You can watch some buhurt fighting, those guys fight with blunted weapons obviously and use not as historic armor but do fight enthusiasticly and go for the knockouts. As close to real medieval fighting as it gets these days.

@batteredwarrior Месяц назад

@@witar. Buhurt is nothing like real medieval fighting...

@geforcegtx10606gb Год назад

Love seeing these videos in my feed. Not only are they a fun watch, they make for great art reference as well! Keep it up :)

@dequitem Год назад

I will!

@Sonof_DRN2004 Год назад

I would not want to be the knight with the sword, Warhammers are my favourite medieval weapons, but damn I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end even if the other guy was going easy on the hits.

@dequitem Год назад

Yes I was, but the one strike to the head Hit him hard.

@crozraven Год назад

Even if it's blunt & in full armor, that hammer strikes must pretty painful.

@dequitem Год назад

They were. But I was the sadist with the hammer.

@necroseus Год назад

Wow that looks like it hurts! What's it like to get rocked with that thing? Haha. Excellent fighting as aslways :)

@dequitem Год назад

It hurt! 😅 Mayby I am a sadist.

@jimbotussock3856 Год назад

I think masochist might be a better word. 😁 Great job with the hammer. Good speed and efficiency with strikes and flow. Love the use of the shield for distance management. 👍🏻

@erloriel Год назад

@@jimbotussock3856 Sadist fits perfectly, considering that he is the one with the hammer... (you can tell by the armor, who is who)

@jimbotussock3856 Год назад

@@erloriel Oh right! True... definitely a sadist then! He's prolly a bit of both! 😂🤣

@dequitem Год назад

@@jimbotussock3856yeah, might be both!

@Dragon37007 5 месяцев назад

Bro this channel deserves so much more views

@vcasxsnk 2 месяца назад

thank you for the robert vs rhaegar scene lads

@sweggatronthemighty6351 Год назад

Brutal, but you both move with such finesse, awesome

@dequitem Год назад

Thanks.

@scrunklyknight Год назад

honestly i think this is my favorite video of yours so far it was just amazing

@dequitem Год назад

I think there are better ones but I like it to. I will upload a short from the second fight in the next days.

@RyanJones-ew8vm Год назад

Imagine coming across these two fighting, you would think you have gone back in time.

@dequitem Год назад

They were thousand of insects. Did they count as our viewers?

@camraid9 Год назад

And, nice overall video quality. Good location, nice dusk lighting too!

@everestvirtue309 Месяц назад

Thank you For your tremendous creativity

@gelatinoid349 Год назад

Looked very painful for the longsword guy but great entertainment. I love it!

@Gaming4ever-pd7jv Год назад

That looks brutal but fun; I'm currently doing HEMA and planning to start getting into armor next year.

@dequitem Год назад

Cool!

@peternicholson8029 Год назад

beautiful. Poetry in motion gentlemen.

@warman3096 Год назад

At long last a quick but nonetheless very entertaining duel, I especially love the shield strike at 0:43 beautiful work looking forward to more now rest up and take care of those nasty bruises friend ❤.

@krabby4456 Год назад

someone - how many times have you watched this? me - yes!

@dequitem Год назад

😍

@Unholy15.23 Год назад

Very good Video! Its nice to see the warhammer in Action. :)

@CriticalShot1 7 месяцев назад

That hammer bro was laying the smack down

@michaelboyle-ms2id Год назад

Nice hammering! Hope all is well with that kid of yours!

@dequitem Год назад

My son will be a great warrior one day. I am proud to be his father!

@TheShurikenZone Год назад

@dequitem As soon as I saw that you posted this video, my first thought was for your son. 👍👍 And my second thought was that I've really been looking forward to this awesome but brutal video! Ever since I had the exchange with that guy who thought getting beaten up with a nearly live war hammer was a good idea, I've been wanting to see what being beaten up with a lighter and somewhat softer war hammer looked like. haha Awesome. 😄

@flankysixtyfour Год назад

Das ist sowas von geil! Danke!❤

@davidec.4021 7 месяцев назад

Damn boys this was hardcore That hammer is scary af, especially if you don’t even have a shield

@blondie2978 Год назад

Jesus Christ. I fought in armor for a bit, but the thought of getting hit with that hammer in just a brigandine makes me sweat.

@dequitem Год назад

It is pain and make bruises, but don't injure you in a titanium brigandine and with a hardened steel helmet forged by myself!

@microwavegommmm916 10 месяцев назад

At the same time though, you and you're opponents are not fighting to kill. While you're always giving it your all, as your videos show , you are not fighting for your life and there has to be some mental distinction between the two. I feel like this played a massive part in the argument in a comment section of another one of your videos about how effective blunt weapons are against armour.

@02Shay20 Год назад

Nice speed for heavy amor

@shayanlostflash Год назад

Robert bratheon vs rhaegar targryan Sir your channel i great

@Skitheim Год назад

sometimes I think you guys are actually trying to kill each other

@dequitem Год назад

Wouldn't we wear armor, we definitely would 🤣. But so we only have bruises after the fight!

@grubwirld Год назад

Your skill is unmatched and you make this armor seem weightless. Greetings from Serbia

@dequitem Год назад

Thanks.

@MagicalOgre 8 месяцев назад

This man straight up does not believe in shields. Respect

@Unbatedwharf23 Год назад

so cool. i’m always surprised i can’t glimpse the other cameras from the other angles 😂

@dequitem Год назад

😅 You will never find one, most of the time, they are hidden behind an object or I will cut them out in after-effects.

@joeiznang 7 месяцев назад

Your friendly calmly explaining that youre dead at the end there loool

@dequitem 7 месяцев назад

No both alive!

@fromshane Год назад

awesome man

@paanjaan 10 месяцев назад

damn this one looks dangerous, looks like one good hit with the warhammer shar piece to head and you have third eye socket ready also that hit a 0:35 to head ringed pretty well, must have been very uncomfortable :D

@dequitem 10 месяцев назад

He was so full of adrenaline, that he nearly didn't notice the strike.

@paanjaan 10 месяцев назад

@@dequitem what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger :D

@dequitem 10 месяцев назад

😅@@paanjaan

@xenocide2121 4 месяца назад

savage. these mock battles with real weapons and armor are pretty intense. whats the greatest injury you have sustained doing this?

@dequitem 4 месяца назад

Broken elbow. My bone stuck out of my arm.

@xenocide2121 4 месяца назад

@@dequitem wow, that is intense. Be safe out there friend!

@sleepless9957 Месяц назад

@@dequitem Wow, as a hema only practitioner how did that happen?

@dequitem Месяц назад

@@sleepless9957 twohanded 2,5 kg sword and a to short elbow/forearm guard.

@sleepless9957 Месяц назад

@@dequitem That sounds absolutely awful. I hope everything healed perfectly and stay safe in future sparrings! ^^

@cultofhercules Год назад

looks like even though those hammer hits really hurt there isn't a high risk of serious injury from the blows.

@dequitem Год назад

If the tip of the hammer would be narrow and not blunt and made from a heavyer material than light titanium, it would be a bigger thread. The tip is also hard rubber 😉.

@skvaderfpv Год назад

That does not sound that historically accurate, a titanium hammer. I do understand why though.

@dequitem Год назад

@@skvaderfpv because I don't wanna kill my opponent if he do a mistake and it doesn't rust in rain.

@lukaswarkus677 Год назад

Great Work guys Do u can show the dents this Hammer makes? Its not harden ? Ok read the comments u wear titan But still it must make dents And for the record iam sorry for my bad english 😂

@dequitem Год назад

The armor is hardened steel and titanium and very resistant, so no big dents! The metal of the hammer is soft titanium for less weight and impact. The spike is hard rubber😉.

@lukaswarkus677 Год назад

Thx man wäre schade für die schöne Rüstung passt auf euch auf

@dequitem Год назад

@@lukaswarkus677 tun wir. Und alle Beulen kann man ausbeulen.

@moldman2974 Год назад

love the vids, but that spike on the hammer made me a little nervous

@dequitem Год назад

The spike is rubber, but don't tell them, it still hurts and do concussions.

@LOWKEYDANGER 9 месяцев назад

Omg I just stumbled upon this channel yes!

@Anegor 7 месяцев назад

Sometimes blunt weapons are underestimated due to the fact they dont fell their opponent in a single strike through armor, as it is often imagined. But i think fighting in armor is all about wearing your opponent down till you can grapple them for the knife kill, and blunts still do that very wonderfully, in my perception.

@dequitem 7 месяцев назад

But sharps can kill you before,

@Beton507 Год назад

What kind of shield was in the video? A pavise or hungarian shield perhaps?

@dequitem Год назад

It's a Hungarian shield. I would like to have a pavise one day. Greetings to Italy and hema in armis. I love your stuff and hope we will fight one day.

@Beton507 Год назад

@@dequitem oh lordy I just stole this profile picture from somewhere. I'm just really passionate about the middle ages and currently cant afford any armor because I'm still in school. If I would have one I would gladly batter someone with it though

@dequitem Год назад

@@Beton507😅 okay that take a look for the guys of hema in armis. They do great pictures.

@Beton507 Год назад

@@dequitem I already follow them they do really passionate work. The thing I always laugh about is when they show the first 3 of a tournament and they already look so exhausted and drenched in sweat that it almost looks medieval haha

@Sashkovskiy_X 9 месяцев назад

Very enjoyable spend of time. I like how it looks: natural, very dynamic, maybe historicaly correct(i`m not a pro)

@vcasxsnk 2 месяца назад

“gods i was strong then”

@Boricua_User 8 месяцев назад

Men will see this and say "Hell yeah!"

@danielwhite1233 6 месяцев назад

Robert and Raegar on the trident

@lostmarimo 9 месяцев назад

So how have you not accidentally killed each other yet? those spiky hammer blows looked hard as hell. or are they some kind of foam thing?

@ericaugust1501 8 месяцев назад

i wonder who felt the hits more. i'm assuming the hammer blows hurt more? maybe the longsword blows were even very easy to take? it seems like heavy armour fights are a matter on endurance. whoever runs out first, will get knocked down, and then.... well, things won't be improving for them. if i had a warhammer, and knocked my opponent down, i would keep hammering with big overhead swings. I've heard that dagger to gaps is the other way to finish the opponent, but i would not want to grapple and risk my own gaps to the oppositions dagger. seems better to, once you knock them down, keep raining down blows on them from the safer position.

@dequitem 8 месяцев назад

Swords are like twohanded daggers, they also try to hit the gabs with even bigger force. So it's mostly not an endurance match up. In this fight it's the question if the hammer can knock out the opponent with a strike to the head or the sword pierces the gabs deep enough. I like the longsword more 😉

@ericaugust1501 8 месяцев назад

@@dequitemnice of you to reply. i have noted from your later videos you prefer the longsword, and i understand why, but my question still stands. how did it feel like taking hits from that hammer, vs an opponent trying to jab the longsword into gaps? surely the hammer blows where much more painful? or maybe not? surely jab, jab jab from the longsword (halfswording) is far easier to take than repeated bash, bash, bash from the hammer (or poleaxe)?

@dequitem 8 месяцев назад

Yes the warhammer hurts more and a strike to the head can kill. But pain isn't the important factor if you don't fight with blunt weapons. Blunt swords normally don't du pain but pointy tips could kill.

@ericaugust1501 8 месяцев назад

@@dequitem thanks, that's what it kinda looked like. last question, it's difficult to see, but how easy is it for you to drive your halfword gripped longsword point into your opponents gaps while he is bashing you and shoving you away with his warhammer? would you say, 1) you mostly miss, 2) i get a decent stab in every 3rd exchange of shoving/blows, or 3) when i close i find i can immediately drive the point dangerously into the gaps? since you like the longsword best, i'm expecting your answer to be number 3) or number 2). although if its number 2) i'd say the warhammer and longsword are evenly matched because if it is a struggle to get that point in, surely being bashed repeatedly during this struggle is taking a dangerous toll.

@dequitem 8 месяцев назад

@@ericaugust1501 I am the guy withe the hammer and shield ;) i normaly hit every secont attack :)

@felix.der.ritter Год назад

Es Beginnt.

@dequitem Год назад

Was eigentlich?

@WarlordFlanker Год назад

Nice flow, I can tell you've been practicing your weapon-and-shield game! How did you like swinging the warhammer? I imagine it's like using a hand-axe? Was it made of steel?

@dequitem Год назад

The spike is hard rubber and the sides are titanium. So the hammer is a little bit lighter than historical, but still hurts like a Mordhau with a sword ;) It's a great feeling!

@TheBlindedLeader 10 месяцев назад

Hard to see a longsword winning a fight like that without somehow getting it too the ground lol

@elgostine 11 месяцев назад

so, tell me about the hammer, and the armour, the hammer was steel? how hard did it hit? at what point would you say that this hammer would be something youd maybe feel was life threatening even in the armour?

@dequitem 11 месяцев назад

The spike of the hammer is only hard rubber, so the hammer is 300 Gramm lighter. The strike to the head was the only life threatening if it would be steel and not rounded. But nearly every other strike wasn't effective to kill someone. They hurt all and would be do small injuries!

@elgostine 11 месяцев назад

@@dequitem curious since as we all know, the hammer hass always been touted as this... armour killer... where youre just gonna ruin EVERYONES day no matter what nothing can stop you etc.. and on horseback sure but your classic 'warhammer with its length more akin to that of a late medieval mace.... seems... like itd actually struggle

@MachineSanto 2 месяца назад

that must have really hurt, isn't the hammer designed to deal with armor?

@Jim-ed3ej Год назад

Is the warhammer made of steel? I admire your bravery. I have tested my steel warhammer against my greave and it caved in pretty good. It hits so hard compared to a sword.

@dequitem Год назад

The spike is hard rubber, rest is steel, titanium and wood.

@matthewrussell4343 Год назад

Well well well, looks like someone took my advice.

@dequitem Год назад

I am working on a video, where I compare these weapons and spoiler, the sword is mightier!

@matthewrussell4343 Год назад

@@dequitem Than explain why your swords man is on his ass at the end of the video?

@dequitem Год назад

The better or luckier fighter often wins. The weapon is only one factor in the calculation.

@matthewrussell4343 Год назад

@@dequitem Yeah riiiiiiiiiight.

@bruisedhelmet8819 Год назад

Although I have two different types of war hammers.... I feel I need more now.

@dequitem Год назад

Mayby a light training version, but there are no rubber or Titanium variants for training on the market.

@simko6064 Год назад

Because it interests me, is there any safety precautions when using a weapon such as the warhammer. It must still stun you if you get hit on the helmet proper, right? Cool matchup though with a weapon made to strike armour and a weapon made to strike inbetween armour.

@dequitem Год назад

Even if the hammer wouldn't be blunt you have to strike to the gabs and weak spots. The hammer would only puncture 1 or 2 cm and than stop. But you are right it hurts and can take you to the ground.

@alexthepunk84 11 месяцев назад

"Oh yeah you absolutely can't spar with warhammers or maces these are too unsa--"

@TicklesTinkles 7 месяцев назад

Why are these knights fighting and killing each other? Can't they just team up?

@dequitem 7 месяцев назад

😍

@tylerdelgregg7879 Год назад

Those kidney hits by the hammer must be very painful.

@dequitem Год назад

They were, but I was the lucky one swinging the hammer! 😅

@tylerdelgregg7879 Год назад

@@dequitem I was hoping you had the hammer. 🥃

@ethand8142 10 месяцев назад

You guys are nuts. 😂

@bloodsord9 11 месяцев назад

How much damage would blunt weapons do? I assumed that they would be very destructive to an armored knight. So are the only ways knights die on a battlefield is by piercing through armor cracks, getting crushed under the weight of other bodies or drowning in the mud?

@dequitem 11 месяцев назад

A mace or warhammer hurt, but they don't crush hardened steel armor. Search for Buhurt combat sport on RU-vid and take a look on some guys wracking the shit out of each other with maces and can still fight in the next round!

@elshebactm6769 Год назад

🗿👍🏿

@oliverengelhard4464 2 месяца назад

Das hat gesessen...ist an deinem Gegner noch alles dran? Grüße OLI

@dequitem 2 месяца назад

Jip, mehr ein stolpern!

@WolvesBaseballNine 5 месяцев назад

Is this really how to do battle with a long sword against a shield? Wouldn't it be better to keep distance with the length of the sword and use that to poke thru the shield? Idk!

@dequitem 5 месяцев назад

You can't keep. Distance if your opponent didn't allow it.

@WolvesBaseballNine 5 месяцев назад

@@dequitem Ok. I get that you were probably more skilled and kept it close quarters, but I'm just talking ideally here. The man with the long sword half sworded the whole battle, and I'm just wondering wouldn't it be better to use it's length to keep the shield at bay sort of like a spear.

@ukazuhira Год назад

0:53 ouch!!

@skvaderfpv Год назад

How to get al dings out of the armour every time? And how much time does it take?

@dequitem Год назад

I did a video about dressing my armor. 😉

@ji4215 Месяц назад

Robert vs Rhaegar

@MaximBardin 10 месяцев назад

Wondered what a bladed weapon can do vs armor (unless it pierces between the armor, and goes to the soft parts)

@dequitem 10 месяцев назад

You don't need more than that.

@daxoa3979 9 месяцев назад

Robert vs Rhaegar

@hemmydall 10 месяцев назад

I'm really curious how hits like the bonk around 0:52 feels? That's got to be jarring at the least. How much does that hurt? How much damage could it do?

@afistfulfett7526 10 месяцев назад

The recieving side of the bonk here. It didn't really hurt, at least I don't remember it doing that. But you can see I tangled half a second as it was a well placed hit. But everything was fine after the fight!

@dequitem 10 месяцев назад

He was my opponent 😊.

@lovelife652 Месяц назад

Rheafar vs robert baratheon

@hokoriadventures.6745 Год назад

Serious question. What is a good reliable website for custom armor? I've tried fairs and other websites for custom armor amd I can't find anything that fits. I'm 7ft and weigh 266.

@dequitem Год назад

armors.pro, Medival Extrem, Buhurt is love, Andrey Galevsky and many other smith's on facebook.

@ulf2740 10 месяцев назад

wasn't that very dangerous fighting with the pike side of the hammer ?

@Anegor 10 месяцев назад

The pike is hard rubber, and it's made of light titanium, it's much less dangerous than a real Warhammer would be, for obvious safety reasons

@ulf2740 10 месяцев назад

@@Anegor Oh okay make sense now, didn't see that much of rubber hammer that small

@ea5yliver 10 месяцев назад

I always hate those fights where dudes just bop other fighters with sword blades on the armor because (obviously) they're not allowed to use the point the way it was and SHOULD be. Meanwhile, this feels so much more true-to-form with the proper usage of a bludgeoning weapon in armored combat. 😂

@DaveO0808 9 месяцев назад

is the red knight okay

@dequitem 9 месяцев назад

Yes

@metaname1 8 месяцев назад

Так Мартин (красный) упал из-за какого-то особо удачного удара? Или он просто запыхался и решил передохнуть?

@dequitem 8 месяцев назад

He actually fall over a a small hill on the ground when I pushed him with the shield. So it was a unlucky combination.

@crassiewassie8354 6 месяцев назад

Warhammer there was surprisingly nimble for such a heavy unwieldy weapon

@dequitem 6 месяцев назад

They never were heavy.

@Man_From_Ham_Aslume Месяц назад

warhammer reference

@alexandreboureau6175 Год назад

How do you make training safe with a warhammer?

@dequitem Год назад

Who say that it is save?

@bombfog1 9 месяцев назад

Should the title be “Malleus Ictus” rather than “Malleus Ictu”?

@dequitem 9 месяцев назад

Mayby... It's to long for me that I had Latin in school. I am not sure!

@bombfog1 9 месяцев назад

@@dequitem Ha Ha Ha! Me too. I just assumed you knew something that I didn’t. I’m just happy that you’re using Latin titles.

@TheBetterBleedingBladesYouTube Год назад

What are those arm shields called?

@dequitem Год назад

Achselschild.

@TheBetterBleedingBladesYouTube Год назад

@@dequitem I meant the shield you carry- not the armor- sorry I wasn’t clearer about that.

@dequitem Год назад

@@TheBetterBleedingBladesRU-vid Hungarian punching shield

@TheBetterBleedingBladesYouTube Год назад

@@dequitem Thank you! I knew it looked a lot like a pavise, but couldn’t quite match it properly to it. I appreciate you naming it for me.

@dequitem Год назад

@@TheBetterBleedingBladesRU-vid it's not a offical name 😅

@docholiday7975 10 месяцев назад

Is the warhammer something custom made by yourself or purchased from someone else? Wanted to use one for re-enactment fighting but either getting something safe means one made of rubber which doesn't look right or one made of steel which is too heavy to be safe.

@dequitem 10 месяцев назад

Costume made by myself!

@cameronvandeusen7871 9 месяцев назад

Yikes! Cool fight but man...isnt the warhammer designed specifically to fight against full plate armor? I get needing to full spar with the weapons but its not like fighting with a blunt blade, you're meant to feel those blows. Helmet or not have you ever been seriously concussed by a blow to the head?

@whyteisrealyte Год назад

Hammer/mace is the meta indefinitely since full plate end of story

@dequitem Год назад

I don't think so. Blades become narrow to pierce chain and to thrust in the gabs more effective, a mace wasn't that effective anymore. Hammers where still okay, but not as effective like a spear. And a sword can be s small spear.

@bowman1248 Год назад

I'm surprised youre allowed to use hammers tbh

@dequitem Год назад

It's the decision of my opponent!

@bvbxiong5791 10 месяцев назад

the hammer guy can't swing with life or death power because he would do serious injury in a demonstration. keep that in mind.

@dequitem 10 месяцев назад

I am the hammer guy and I had swing that thing with full power. A hammer don't kill or injure u under hardened steel plate. Only if you hit the gabs! You definitely can't swing a hammer harder midfight.

@bvbxiong5791 10 месяцев назад

@@dequitem i'll take your word for it. but life and death swings are different and fueled by adrenaline. i really didn't see any swings with intent to kill.

@imdibene 29 дней назад

Hammers >> swords

@dequitem 29 дней назад

Nop, most scenarios I prefer a sword

@imdibene 29 дней назад

@@dequitem Thanks for responding. It is good to have your insights, in the videos that I've seen on your channel I was getting the impression that the Hammers/Mordaxt/Poleaxes et al. had the up-hand. Really cool cinematography, please keep posting them.

@enzoaurelius5606 10 месяцев назад

I think in real battle longsword stands no chance. To imagine how bones and armor crack as the hammer stirkes. Must be horribly and painful.

@ericallaire8677 7 месяцев назад

If you would use that long sword the way it was designed...

@dequitem 7 месяцев назад

He did use the longsword the way it is designed for armored combat.

@IowaMan Год назад

i get it's not a representation of a real fight since you have a spiked war hammer and the other guy has a nerf sword =\ you could feel the "really man?"

@dequitem Год назад

Nerf sword?