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Warcraft 3: Reforged, Rejected, Refunded 

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Warcraft 3 reforged has made history with its community backlash. Nostalgia is a falling dagger... harnessing it can be easy profit, or horrific controversy and blizzard missed the mark to a brutal extreme.
Over time the game will likely improve but this remastered or reforged version has torched a significant amount of what little faith the blizzard community still had.
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@UpperEchelon
@UpperEchelon 4 года назад
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@ThortackNezzerack
@ThortackNezzerack 4 года назад
Once upon a time in my youth Blizzard was a respectable company that cared for their products. They cared and it showed, we cared because they gave us value... Now Activision has absolutely destroyed everything my once favorite company ever stood for. So long Blizzard, I shall remember you as you were, but I will not be fooled by what you are.
@carljohan9265
@carljohan9265 4 года назад
Thanks for giving modders the spotlight they deserve. A couple of fantastic examples of the top of my head: Xcom EU/EW with the Long War mod, officially recognized by the Firaxis devs to be the far superior version of the game (and even endorsed by said devs). Brutal DOOM, Seargant Mark's masterpiece upgrade to the grandfather of the FPS genre. Makes the game so much fun to play. Team Fortress, a quake mod that eventually grew into the TF 2 we all know and love. A game that I've been playing since it's release and it STILL manages to surprise me constantly with hilarious happenings. Many, many really well made mods for Xcom 2 that can be mixed, matched and edited to create a game that is EXACTLY how you want it to be. Modders are amazing and I appreciate you making that point.
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 4 года назад
@@ThortackNezzerack Agreed. Much like Boeing and what McDonnell Douglas did to them.
@greatgameplayswalkthroughs660
@greatgameplayswalkthroughs660 4 года назад
What Warcraft 3 Reforged should have been - made in Unreal engine : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7KrdbeOMBKU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Jgy43pcSvEs.html
@Ramsesamonra
@Ramsesamonra 4 года назад
*Nice video girafe man, and like I predicted long time ago, BLIZZARD is like the TITANIC, many said that it couldn't sink, and yet it did...just like BLIZZARD......they will sink very soon....regardless all the attemps to save it*
@BJWeNeedUDefendingUsWithZeMG42
@BJWeNeedUDefendingUsWithZeMG42 4 года назад
Warcraft 3: DE-MASTERED
@violenceandpoetry
@violenceandpoetry 4 года назад
Actually, a lo-fi de-make where it is all sprites *could* be cool, but Blizzard doesn't do cool stuff anymore.
@JohnFreedman0
@JohnFreedman0 4 года назад
Still less botched than WoW classic tbh.
@sigy4ever
@sigy4ever 4 года назад
Warcraft 3: Fucked Edition
@The_Lesser_Evil
@The_Lesser_Evil 4 года назад
Destroyed, it's Warcraft III: Destroyed.
@Miranox2
@Miranox2 4 года назад
@@JohnFreedman0 How was it botched?
@beerasaurus
@beerasaurus 4 года назад
The fact that they deleted the old client baffels me.
@Se05239
@Se05239 4 года назад
Its not too surprising when you consider that they did it to force the new EULA on everyone.
@dvhh
@dvhh 4 года назад
Yeah I consider this to be the most aggravating one, "upgrading" a 3GB game with a 30GB of patch containing graphics you won't use.
@chriswebb6387
@chriswebb6387 4 года назад
insanity, they really want to kill their player base don't they?
@Se05239
@Se05239 4 года назад
@@chriswebb6387 If they cared about their playerbase, they'd not have done what they did.
@TheRexTera
@TheRexTera 4 года назад
Se05239 They don’t want to risk loosing another DOTA.
@silith7027
@silith7027 4 года назад
To be fair, the guy who made the Free Hong Kong Map just for Blizzard was a genius.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 года назад
Wasn't it just the words "Free Hong Kong" on it? Or is it a Tower Defence?
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 4 года назад
There's also a few Nazi and Holocaust maps floating around, for what I saw on another RU-vid channel. Would be funny if that ownership got them in legal trouble.
@laurilehtiaho9618
@laurilehtiaho9618 4 года назад
That was exactly where my thoughts went just a bit after learning about Blizz's new conditions.
@phrozac
@phrozac 4 года назад
“Was”...did Blizzard kill him?
@picklerick4296
@picklerick4296 4 года назад
Is there any gameplay footage on that map (or any other "Fuck you Blizzard" maps) that you can link? Can't seem to find any... :(
@lesslisilverman
@lesslisilverman 4 года назад
Blizzard deserves everything they're getting, plus a little bit more.
@Adam-082
@Adam-082 4 года назад
"Activison" Blizzard
@Chrome-uc3fw
@Chrome-uc3fw 4 года назад
And some more
@Chrome-uc3fw
@Chrome-uc3fw 4 года назад
@@Adam-082 Isn't it supposed to be Activision "Blizzard"
@Are1i
@Are1i 4 года назад
You get what you fcking deserve
@alexxpetra4097
@alexxpetra4097 4 года назад
They're not getting sued?
@OmegaWarGreymon
@OmegaWarGreymon 4 года назад
I'm a game dev with a decade of development the majority of it in AAA. Remasters can be very hard to make. Lost data, missing information, old engines, bad management, corporate greed and a lot more. Taking all that into account this is unacceptable and an absolute debacle. The meddling with the original game is unwarranted and the TOS change is disgusting. This reflects the poor state of the gaming industry. People that do not care about games are in charge and it is becoming more and more visible. The situation is repulsive to me as a developer and a gamer.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 4 года назад
Microsoft (or rather Forgotten Empires) managed to make an amazing remaster (and expansion!) of Age of Empires 2, and that's a 20 year old game. It is quite possible to get remasters of old games right - we saw an example of that just a couple months ago.
@thrace_bot1012
@thrace_bot1012 4 года назад
@Agent 005 Its a shitty thing to do , yes - yet its not gambling in literal sense , which is why they have been able to elude the regulations concerned thus far. There's no monetary return most of the time. There might be exceptions like the CS:GO skins' black market etcetera , however they still aren't direct transits of monetary gain as is acquired conventionally in Gambling from the company's end.
@OmegaWarGreymon
@OmegaWarGreymon 4 года назад
@Agent 005 How do I feel? To sum up what will be a ten page rant... Disgusted.
@decromanger28
@decromanger28 4 года назад
@@mr.nobody2244 I do support indie devs. Sometimes they launch games on Steam and I buy it. As for these greedy corporate motherfuckers, I just pirate their game. EA, Bethesda, Blizzard, Ubisoft, and 2K. They are a bunch of greedy fuckers nowadays.
@thefool8224
@thefool8224 4 года назад
4:10 kinda like how sega "updated" warhammer 40000k dawn of war, making sure the LAN option was forever removed from it
@mex_I.M
@mex_I.M 4 года назад
Not forever. YAHAR !
@Ultrox007
@Ultrox007 4 года назад
@Agent 005 At least you can _play_ Dawn of War 3. It's not as good as the previous titles, but it functions. That's more than Reforged can speak for.
@MEGABUMSTENCH
@MEGABUMSTENCH 4 года назад
you can just say 40k, as thats the correct name
@thefool8224
@thefool8224 4 года назад
@@MEGABUMSTENCH . oh yeah. dunno why i said 40000k.
@antonackermann9620
@antonackermann9620 4 года назад
@@thefool8224 Because in the 40 000th millennium there is only war.
@kaleidomni
@kaleidomni 4 года назад
Blizzard is dead, it just doesn't know it yet.
@aceclover758
@aceclover758 4 года назад
Should be featured comment
@Eametsa
@Eametsa 4 года назад
They never run out of horny blizzard boyz unfortunately
@globalbandfinder
@globalbandfinder 4 года назад
What are you talking about? They will never die. Idiots forget and will keep buying their products. The same people that pre-order games and cries when it doesn't look like the trailers
@DarkFireTim
@DarkFireTim 4 года назад
You know that scene in Resident Evil where they find the priest who has wired his zombiefied sister to a chair and has been feeding her people ever since she turned claiming shes still alive? I feel that is an accurate analogy for the current state of Blizzard.
@majorbombas
@majorbombas 4 года назад
Now let's wait for Overpatch 2 - a first game with missing content that blizzard didnt add in 2 past years, and PvE.
@GUMMRUCHK
@GUMMRUCHK 4 года назад
Blizzard: We own all custom games. Players: Enjoy all your new racist games Blizzard. I love the internet. 😂
@GUMMRUCHK
@GUMMRUCHK 4 года назад
@Agent 005 It makes them look bad no matter what clause they have. lol
@GUMMRUCHK
@GUMMRUCHK 4 года назад
@Agent 005 I for one look forward to playing Blizzards newest title kill the [Insert minority group] 10/10 game.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 года назад
Honestly, to map makers out there who are on the off-chance reading this... be creative about it. Don't make a suddenly shocking map, do something elaborate like DOTA but make it about something controversial... like a Defence Of The Hong Kong... then somehow make it a very popular game type that everyone wants to play online so they can't just get rid of it easily...
@mvgiwaranolvffy
@mvgiwaranolvffy 4 года назад
@@stylesrj oooh yes. lets launch multiple custom mods that are really bad for chinese market. hong kong and winnih the pooh come to mind but also tien an men or the jasmin revolution. and they need to be good so players will want to play them
@asddasdasdasdadsa
@asddasdasdasdadsa 4 года назад
No No ITS waY better If they Owen IT they are responsible for what moders do. So Blizzard published Rassist sexist usw. Content and could be legally sued for that ;) thats the real reason
@DrankPlank
@DrankPlank 4 года назад
Even my father heard about the shitstorm surrounding warcraft 3, and he's the definition of a 60+ boomer who gives no shits about games. That's how massive the splash is. It's hilarious.
@legion4698
@legion4698 4 года назад
Grank Plank now that’s how you know when something is really low
@LoganHunter82
@LoganHunter82 4 года назад
Out of all things that didn't happen, this didn't happen the most
@nomooon
@nomooon 4 года назад
he probably played Warcraft 1 and 2 back in the day...
@DrankPlank
@DrankPlank 4 года назад
@@nomooon I can guarrantee you he did not. He struggles to pay the bills using a pc lmao
@azerrell373
@azerrell373 4 года назад
That moment when the video you're watching is criticizing a game, and halfway through an advertisement for that game plays... Yikes youtube.
@Uouttooo
@Uouttooo 4 года назад
Still not using ad-block in 2020? Yikes!
@azerrell373
@azerrell373 4 года назад
@@Uouttooo I was on my phone app, so... Unfortunately no...
@firehunterz2311
@firehunterz2311 4 года назад
@@azerrell373 RU-vid Vanced is your way to go. Search it.
@MannElite
@MannElite 4 года назад
Check out AOE 2 Definitive Edition! A 20 year old RTS remastered properly! Came out 2 months ago with no coverage, has a couple bugs, but overall is magnificent, great value, and tons of fun.
@christopherlane467
@christopherlane467 4 года назад
Right? I mean hell, if Microsoft can do it, can't Blizzard? Oh wait, sorry, it's Activision... in that case nope. They can't even do Call of Duty well anymore, it's just rehashes
@MagnaNoctua
@MagnaNoctua 4 года назад
I wouldnt say no coverage. Its currently being used as an example of a good rts remaster in most videos about the reforged fiasco... id call that good coverage lol. Though it could use more i suppose.
@olefredrikskjegstad5972
@olefredrikskjegstad5972 4 года назад
Age of empires II definitive edition is great. Having so much fun with it
@MannElite
@MannElite 4 года назад
I know, im playing it almost every day. Just won my first ranked game yesterday lol but really I haven't seen it advertised anywhere, or in any headlines.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 года назад
I think AOE2 was already popular enough that advertising the remaster wasn't necessary since everyone already had it.
@Ultrox007
@Ultrox007 4 года назад
What made me the most mad, I didn't buy reforged because I knew it would flop. But trying to launch basic WC3, the 1.3 GB Windows XP Compatible WarCraft III - was irreversibly patched with always-online DRM, removal of core features, and bloating the game to 30 GB. For years I've been running a "WarCraft RPG 2e" campaign (published by Sword & Sorcery for the D&D 3.5e ruleset, and I've been adapting my players story into a custom campaign. WIth reforge removing custom campaigns... Well. RIP 6 years of work.
@JoViljarHaugstulen
@JoViljarHaugstulen 4 года назад
Well there is always the option of pirating the superior version which is no longer legally available (just make sure it isn't allowed to try and update itself)
@DidWeMakeIt
@DidWeMakeIt 4 года назад
Damn dude, that really sucks. Sorry my man.
@FedeKai95
@FedeKai95 4 года назад
@growlingbehemoth well, ironic comeback for Blizzard
@smupp6545
@smupp6545 4 года назад
Duuuuude, wtf! As a fellow dm i feel for you.
@Ultrox007
@Ultrox007 4 года назад
@@JoViljarHaugstulen I dug out my battlechest, fired up my Pentium 4 that had patches hard downloaded onto it, patched the game to its 2012 iteration, then reverse engineered the patching process to create an unpatching tool to remove the reforging nonsense. While your method would have been a lot quicker, I couldn't shove it in blizzard's face quite as hard.
@jna6246
@jna6246 4 года назад
2:30 Yes graphical downgrades are common for upcoming AAA hype train games that maybe will run smoothly on bleeding edge hardware. But when you are remastering a game over 15 years old, and you are advertising a graphical level that still runs great on any modern system (even internal graphics chipsets) there is no reason to pull a bait and switch.
@Papierflugzeug95
@Papierflugzeug95 4 года назад
"I don't like it" is absolutely enough on Steam, or when returning literally anything you buy physically.
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus 4 года назад
Which is probably a reason most developers are moving away from using Steam, so they can make actual garbage and people can't get their refund.
@Sakaki98
@Sakaki98 4 года назад
Plebis Maximus Not only make garbage, but falsely advertise said garbage as something it’s not.
@vegeta353658
@vegeta353658 4 года назад
As long as you have under 2 hours of playtime
@robertnomok9750
@robertnomok9750 4 года назад
@@vegeta353658 And even that is a soft cap. You can refun with 3-4 hours. Hell I refunded same game twice. Once during EA and another time after playing for more hour at launch.
@Xandros999
@Xandros999 4 года назад
In Europe, because of a loophole, most digital game stores have customers sign off their right to refunds. You can't have a refund because you agreed to "no refunds" when buying it.
@xxticxxtocxx7909
@xxticxxtocxx7909 4 года назад
To Blizzard, "Do you guys not have brains???"
@Miranox2
@Miranox2 4 года назад
They do, but the only thing in them is corporate greed.
@AGamerPS3
@AGamerPS3 4 года назад
They think with their wallets
@thejakyl1369
@thejakyl1369 4 года назад
So glad I stopped playing blizz games. They have been going downhill steadily since blizzard north was shut down.
@BirdOfHermes8381
@BirdOfHermes8381 4 года назад
Hey Acti-blizz, dont you guys have refunds?
@gunnmansailo1341
@gunnmansailo1341 4 года назад
its not only about getting money back , ur obviously not a real player or u havent know the full shit
@BirdOfHermes8381
@BirdOfHermes8381 4 года назад
@@gunnmansailo1341 It was a joke. I was making fun of when they said " dont you guys have phones? " when they announced the diablo mobile game. A real gamer would know that shit! 😜
@gunnmansailo1341
@gunnmansailo1341 4 года назад
touche
@AGamerPS3
@AGamerPS3 4 года назад
Blizzard refuses refunds. Don't buy their games.
@nurval1093
@nurval1093 3 года назад
blizzard is making its bussiness in china now. the only place on world where they can make shitty games and a lot of money at the same time.
@ToadstedCroaks
@ToadstedCroaks 4 года назад
*Blizzard:* "Ugh, it's impossible to make this 17 year old game better!" *Square Enix:* "Here, hold my materia."
@NeonXXP
@NeonXXP 4 года назад
If there isn't materia as we know it in the FFVII remake, Upper Echelon is gonna have another video to make.
@model84
@model84 4 года назад
1 guy made whole Diablo 2 HD update on sc2 engine, 1 guy, alone!, but Acti blocked it:)
@guthetanuki256
@guthetanuki256 4 года назад
@@NeonXXP I doubt he cares for those kinds of games. Granted I have only been watching this channel for about a year now, but in that time, I realized he doesn't cover JRPGs and that whole category like at all (please prove me wrong if he does, but the general consensus is that he covers triple A gaming mostly on the "American" company side of things, excluding the discussions about Blizzard and the Chinese markets). Even though, on the other side of the industry (typically some Japanese companies), there are scummy practices worthy of discussion there.
@lordoaf
@lordoaf 4 года назад
Blizzard: you think you want an apology, but you don’t.
@nomercy8989
@nomercy8989 4 года назад
Bethesda has Fallout 76 EA has Anthem Ubisoft has Ghost Recon Breakpoint Activision/Blizzard has Warcraft 3 Reforged
@thrace_bot1012
@thrace_bot1012 4 года назад
EA's downfall was Battlefront II quite honestly , Anthem's fuckup is completely and solely on Bioware's shoulders. They had fuck-more than sufficient time and resources , yet lack of an efficient leadership and creative vision sealed its sorry fate. The more you read about what went behind the scenes during its development , the more you start to realize that EA had close to no role in the dumpsterfire of a title that Anthem materialized into.
@snaplemouton
@snaplemouton 4 года назад
@@thrace_bot1012 It doesn't change the fact that EA didn't notice the issue because they are so detached from video game development, the very market they are making their money from, that they got fooled by a scripted highly cinematic proof of concept and never inquired as to what the project was actually looking like. Shows how little EA cares about the games they publish.
@tureytaino2785
@tureytaino2785 4 года назад
Oh, EA have lots of failures, but the one I regret the most is Command and Conquer 4.
@gachigasm3210
@gachigasm3210 4 года назад
5:20 true, companies like Valve realised that two decades ago, I don't understand what the hell are these companies doing, truly just faceless suits that don't understand
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 4 года назад
If they were smart, the EULA would say that you give them right of first refusal to commercialize. Then you would have to pitch something you made to them first, and they would have to say 'No, we don't want this.' before you could bring it to market. Ownership remains with the creator(s) but the only way for Activision to lose out on another DOTA situation is if they say 'No, we don't want this.'
@MooncricketsInc
@MooncricketsInc 4 года назад
Blizzard wants to dethrone EA bethesda and Activision this year huh
@ecoblitz3655
@ecoblitz3655 4 года назад
Activision= Blizzard my guy
@123hattan
@123hattan 4 года назад
@@dandromeda1 The son wants to become like his dad
@mrphysics2625
@mrphysics2625 4 года назад
@@dandromeda1 Wrong
@mrphysics2625
@mrphysics2625 4 года назад
@@ecoblitz3655 wrong. They are a partner merge. Blizzard has autonomy. Unfortunately due to blizzard now being a huge corporation they are function like activision and EA instead of their old pure game development selves.
@mrphysics2625
@mrphysics2625 4 года назад
That being said i really wish blizzard would break away alrdy. Attaching themselves to a big corporation rly infected them with beaureucratic idiociy.
@SparkPung
@SparkPung 4 года назад
You should check out Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition if you get the time. A remaster that was actually done right.
@dayvie9517
@dayvie9517 4 года назад
Nah Age of Empires sucks
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 4 года назад
@@dayvie9517 They're talking about the second one - AoE 2. Though even the AoE 1 remaster is in a much better state now. Plus if you don't like them, the old versions still work fine, unlike here. Plus Plus if you have the old versions, buying the new one is a bit cheaper. Plus Plus Plus the AoE2 remaster specifically isn't just a remaster, it's a fully packed expansion as well. And still cheaper than this W3 mess.
@bars5555
@bars5555 4 года назад
No, its awfully buggy for a lot of people. Its not this bad but its the SECOND remaster they did of it and its not any less broken.
@daerovius7535
@daerovius7535 4 года назад
@@bars5555 Maybe not play it on a potato? Even on my sucky computer it works perfectly well.... if it's not hardware, I'd guess the problem is between the screen and the chair....
@nicon4206
@nicon4206 4 года назад
@@bars5555 Runs perfect for me. And they are actively fixing bugs & balancing/updating the game all the time.
@Bonifazius00
@Bonifazius00 4 года назад
Maybe you could do a video on AoE2 DE? I think this is how a remaster should be done and we have few good examples in the gaming industry as it is ;)
@whaleborn
@whaleborn 4 года назад
Warcraft3: reforged, rejected, refunded, removed!
@chromeslyvania9227
@chromeslyvania9227 3 года назад
2018 : Art and effects not final 2020 : yes i can see final result
@AkiSan0
@AkiSan0 4 года назад
Is it Christmas already? Two UE Vids a day? :D
@Pilsnor
@Pilsnor 4 года назад
Good thing people still have the cracked version of the original Warcraft 3 plus expansions.... allways very good at LAN parties.
@knighttemplaroftentacult7123
@knighttemplaroftentacult7123 4 года назад
I felt it in my guts, when my body wanted to press "pre-order now" button, but my mind was telling me "no". Once again, mind and guts were right. And I am not happy that it was so.
@NoOne-pw6by
@NoOne-pw6by 4 года назад
When a company go out of their way to milk a 17 years old IP without even trying ~what does that tell you about the company?
@aceclover758
@aceclover758 4 года назад
Tells me more about the idiots that keep supporting Blizzard
@TheGhjgjgjgjgjg
@TheGhjgjgjgjgjg 4 года назад
This company and it's army of neck beards is going straight down the shitter
@Gkowi
@Gkowi 4 года назад
This is what happens when companies get too big and make too much. I'd like to think that those who made WC3 originally are happy for the creators of DoTA. Their map editor was a gateway for these guys to make it into the industry and be extremely successful. Now the higher-ups today just want to make sure they don't miss out on a couple bucks, even if it means stealing the hard work of others.
@PossumGodMode1337
@PossumGodMode1337 4 года назад
I uninstalled WoW Classic/Bnet Launcher after Blizchung drama. Blizzard is dead to me.
@V1CT1MIZED
@V1CT1MIZED 4 года назад
Good to see you back! Hope your had a good break!
@TheRytchusOne
@TheRytchusOne 4 года назад
LOL!! I was served a Warcraft 3 ad in the middle of this video!
@Anuojat
@Anuojat 4 года назад
3:40 Jainas face it all. Its like her soul was sucked out between 2018 and 2020.
@KvapuJanjalia
@KvapuJanjalia 4 года назад
6:40 where is this footage from?
@muhschaf
@muhschaf 4 года назад
some skyrim mods, look at nexusmods
@bartkorol611
@bartkorol611 4 года назад
1:34 I think at this point we know that it must have been gauge to see how popular it can be between all the forums and posts, with that they got a good measure of what to expect by really getting classic servers up, especially when at that point the new expansions were not really holding their current players in.
@kleomenis456
@kleomenis456 4 года назад
Reforged is the only game I have refunded in 10 year time.
@Swarm509
@Swarm509 4 года назад
I literally just watched an IGN speedrun video where the devs of the remastered Crash Bandicoot watch someone beat the game in 40 minutes. The commentary in that really shows the difference between a group that want to shove out a "remaster" for easy money and little efford and one that is allowed to both be creative and spend the time to ensure the new game is both better and consistent with the original. Hell the Crash dev's even added features that they knew speed runners had used, basically exploits in the original game, because they got that feedback from testers. Honestly Blizzard has a massive hole to pull themselves out of... I don't think this game can ever recover fully from this.
@gigabytemon
@gigabytemon 4 года назад
Me: Mom, can we buy Warcraft 3? Mom: We have Warcraft 3 at home Warcraft 3 at home: WARCRAFT 3 REFORGED
@stringstorm
@stringstorm 4 года назад
Another example of why community made content are always better than developer made content is StarCraft 2. Everything you see in StarCraft 2 could be done through StarCraft Broodwar's 'primitive' editor. In fact, the bossfights, the puzzles, other mechanics blended with RTS you see on StarCraft 2 stemmed from community made maps like LotC and AoD and many many more.
@retsaMoN
@retsaMoN 4 года назад
Me *waking up out of coma*: Oh boy! I can't wait to see all the new items warcraft 3 has! Blizzard/activision: Reverse expansion! Remove items!
@austinbrunette8773
@austinbrunette8773 4 года назад
All hope I had for Shadowlands was thoroughly crushed with this.
@sickboy703
@sickboy703 4 года назад
They killed my hope with the launch of BFA. CRZ/Sharding/Warmode/Class pruning etc... I'm sticking with Classic and hopefully TBC when it drops.
@Jaqenhgar222
@Jaqenhgar222 4 года назад
Blizzard is playing 4D chess, this is just a set up for when the release Vanillla Warcraft 3 in a couple years.
@michaelcieplik9785
@michaelcieplik9785 4 года назад
underrated comment, 10/10
@juanmiguelfernandez7993
@juanmiguelfernandez7993 3 года назад
THATS MANIACLE
@PublicWifi
@PublicWifi 4 года назад
Can't wait for Diablo 4: Battle Royale....
@redemptling
@redemptling 4 года назад
I still cant understand why they wouldnt "reforge" everything in a similar way to Heroes of the Storm....its made to work from the perspective, uses the more stylized look....and looks great. I always imagined that the remaster would look like that....Hell the grass in there looks much better that the moving grass in the remaster.....
@karolgajko
@karolgajko 4 года назад
The perfect way to prove your point about community being more creative than devs is looking through Paradox Interactive modding community, especially in games like HoI4 - there are lots of semi professional mod teams creating unimaginably large creations like Kaiserreich, OWB EaW, TNO and many others
@Smiley01987
@Smiley01987 4 года назад
Well it did said "Work in progress - Art and effects not final".
@minicute2234
@minicute2234 4 года назад
Well i still have the old version that i got from my friend in HS. Let me know if u guys want a copy. Note: u can only play with other players via LAN
@Akario3
@Akario3 4 года назад
Little know fact LAN only connections can be made pseudo-online via IP sharing apps like GameRanger. Sonyou can play with your friends "online".
@bubblezbeep220
@bubblezbeep220 4 года назад
I want to make a map called "Free hong kong" Where you play as protesters and must survive against the wave of communism, as protesters you get very little things, and slowly get more and more things with the more you upgrade your protesters, mean while the longer you last the stronger the chinese government gets and you must hold out until the american's save you
@yourneighbour5738
@yourneighbour5738 4 года назад
I dont think Blizzard realize DOTA 2 is actually competitive on a professional level because it actually has balance. Blizzard would just make noob-friendly characters and screw over the professional players and obliterate the IP even if they can get their hands on it.
@railerswim
@railerswim 4 года назад
I've been waiting for your vid on this haha
@Phyx1u5
@Phyx1u5 4 года назад
looking forward to the internet historian throwing in his 2 cents
@JohnnyQuanSW
@JohnnyQuanSW 4 года назад
This was very thorough, thank you. I was really-really into the original game back in the day, and ready to overlook my grown distaste of Blizzard over-the-years since for some sweet nostalgia (over various issues I felt ethically disagreeable since the mid-2000s, and how they are always so slow with damage control) . This copyright control issue and greedy mismanagement is just more fuel to the fire.
@D3K018
@D3K018 4 года назад
It's exactly like you said: you have a better ownership with pirated games... I was willing tp buy this game, very excited because I'm a huge warcraft 3 fan, but as a rule of life, I NEVER buy pre-sales on movies or video games, I always rely on multiple critics before spending money... It was a shame that this could be something astounding and became pure trash... The greed of Activision & Blizzard at its finest...
@citiblocsMaster
@citiblocsMaster 4 года назад
From wikipedia: "There are certain features missing from Reforged, including some that will be released later (such as the competitive ladder of Warcraft III)". They removed the ladder from an RTS game. Let that sink in.
@ryanyvegaify
@ryanyvegaify 4 года назад
Dug out my cds from the 2002 version and had fun playing it
@13TeK11
@13TeK11 4 года назад
I'm very curious now to see how ppl will receive overwatch 2 I hope it tanks harder than rein HEYOOO!
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus 4 года назад
They'll buy it like the absolute apes they are, then complain it's horrible like a blind person couldn't have seen that coming from a lightyear away.
@CBRN-115
@CBRN-115 4 года назад
@@plebisMaximus also them: OOOOH! DIABLO 4! OOOH OOH!
@michaelknox3715
@michaelknox3715 4 года назад
@@mr.nobody2244 just because it has gay characters doesn't make it woke! God people are so sensitive
@vynonyoutube1418
@vynonyoutube1418 4 года назад
@@plebisMaximus If any shitheads that plan to buy Overwatch 2 (more like Overhyped), just know that YOU contribute to gaming's downfall. As a gamer, I say this: FUCK YOU.
@mayuri4184
@mayuri4184 4 года назад
The main problem I have with Reforged is the custom games policy, including the fact that they deleted your custom games.
@DarkMProductions
@DarkMProductions 4 года назад
What was it that Brack said at Blizzcon? Actions speak louder than words. Well, this release is very loud indeed.
@Markcus003
@Markcus003 4 года назад
It's definitely deafening 😂😂😂
@avalonnnnnnnnnnnn
@avalonnnnnnnnnnnn 4 года назад
I miss those days where I'll just play the custom campaigns made by Shar Dundred, OutsiderXE, tomoraider and many more.
@primozimo3041
@primozimo3041 4 года назад
This is one of the most informative reviews I've seen on this game thank you
@alakazoomedia9275
@alakazoomedia9275 4 года назад
Better late than never dude. I like hearing your takes on things.
@kijen1989
@kijen1989 4 года назад
you should talk about blizzards sarcastic almost spitefull response from yesterday to the disaster known as refunded.... sry i meant reforged XD
@stormrage3708
@stormrage3708 4 года назад
Until we see what happens with Warcraft 3 Refunded for these few years to come, and for those who still wanna play warcraft 3 custom campaigns and single player, download Warcraft 3 1.31 public test, but don't try to go online as it will immediately update to 1.32 Refunded. You can even find this on Blizzard's official website, so just google "Public Test Realm 1.31". Happy gaming to all of yous
@bubble8718
@bubble8718 4 года назад
Already missed your vids man, favourite RU-vidr !
@Slvrbuu
@Slvrbuu 4 года назад
I'll miss the catapult mount, but I refunded it. A mount isn't worth 49.99
@hellfire5108
@hellfire5108 2 года назад
"For all of you aspiring map makers"... we own everything you make. Sincerelly, Blizzard.
@phynx-victumterra652
@phynx-victumterra652 4 года назад
I have to be honest, I like when companies get called out for this kind of shit
@flappy7373
@flappy7373 4 года назад
This isn't what they needed or wanted.. but it MUST be what they were expecting. You can't, you cannot, you CAN NOT ever convince me that there were gamers or devs at blizzard who saw this final product and said, "yeah this is great! People are gonna love it!" I can only imagine the guys on the team saying, "this is not done. It's not ready. We can't release this." And having some suit tell them "shut up and release it, cur!"
@DigitalValiance-qv6wf
@DigitalValiance-qv6wf 4 года назад
I blame Activision for the shit with community made content in that new EULA. The fact that this software giant has fallen so hard, due to a greedy ass publisher sickens me. Most AAA games are no longer an art form, but rushed crap, littered with greed.
@fa2lemuelm2
@fa2lemuelm2 4 года назад
If Blizzard just made a fucking good warcraft 3 'remastered' people will give then respect and the community will thrive, to their benefit too! The stupidity of these devs is astounding...
@countdeville4146
@countdeville4146 4 года назад
4:24 REALY?? wow. even as a total noob in programing i know how terrible that is. who thought of that? and who greenlighted it? and who got paid for that? EDIT: looked at the tweet. The Blizzard browser is claiming 100.81 % of his cpu.
@NonsensicalSpudz
@NonsensicalSpudz 4 года назад
As a person who had never got to experience warcraft 1, 2 or 3 and its expansions I was going to get this to see how it was etc. But i'm just immensely disappointed with blizzard in general, especially with warcraft based stuff
@dannkettle4106
@dannkettle4106 4 года назад
I find when a review comes in a bit later, it can cover more of the backlash and more sources. Usually the first-to-market reviews are light, missing important aspects, or too reactionary.
@theshreksorcist4571
@theshreksorcist4571 4 года назад
More effort went into this video than post Actardvision blizzard ever put into a single title.
@mightylink65
@mightylink65 4 года назад
Blizzard once scrapped an entire MMO because it didn't live up to their quality standards, this is not that Blizzard. They knew this was an unacceptable release but they jumped the gun anyway just so they can sneak it into their Q4 earnings report. In todays age of greedy publishers a game doesn't release when its ready, it releases when it fits in a time frame to make the most money.
@spottyhead
@spottyhead 4 года назад
We're in the age of "Fuck you, pay me for this broken mess". Vote with your wallets people. Be smart, don't willingly give crooks your money.
@nickheyer
@nickheyer 4 года назад
I have a friend that works middle management at Blizzard. Irvine, CA is my hometown and i've been to blizz a few times. I have a bit more info than what is stated is publicly known. I can't say much, but let's just say that they put themselves in a position where their deadline approached faster than they had initially thought. If blame were to be placed, it certainly wouldn't be on the developers. They did a great job with what they had.
@georgetheodoratos3854
@georgetheodoratos3854 4 года назад
Hello.Just want to say excellent job on all of your videos. Can something be done about having to relike all of them every few months?
@jerrygreenest
@jerrygreenest 3 года назад
“I want to make this video comprehensive and not requiring tens of follow-ups” Idk man, I’m watching various videos about this disaster still, even though it’s end of 2020, like it’s some distinct piece of art
@darwinxavier3516
@darwinxavier3516 4 года назад
Thanks for the summary. I had low expectations of WC3RF going into this and the only thing that would've bothered me personally was the missing cinematics from Blizzcon. I never owned the original game and just borrowed it from a friend to try out. So figured might as well get a copy of a supposedly better version while preordering to get a mount for WoW. I really didn't feel like watching multiple vids from people who obsess over the same outrage again and again like Bellular.
@lil----lil
@lil----lil 4 года назад
You forgot to add: Regretted.
@starcrash4692
@starcrash4692 4 года назад
I didn’t see this in my subscription box or wasn’t even notified.
@YourTamedLion
@YourTamedLion 4 года назад
The lag at 9:01 , stuff like that made me refund. The old game ran smooth. This reforged runs badly. Downgrade of a master piece.
@Dsaberz
@Dsaberz 4 года назад
Problem with the dota thing with blizzard. Basically Dota offered themselves to blizzard but bliz said that MOBA's wont be a thing so they let it go. Well you can guess how that ended. Now blizzard wants to own custom game that the community made in hopes to prevent the whole DOTA mistake they did. Also one of the reasons why HOTS wasnt as big as LOL or DOTA because they shat on the MOBA genre in general. I was hoping to see a recreation of classic DOTA in reforge. Well Im disappointed now.
@zerefsunlimitedshipworks
@zerefsunlimitedshipworks 4 года назад
... and why does Uther resemble Keanu Reeves?
@googane7755
@googane7755 4 года назад
Escaping Auschwitz, slave plantations and Hong Kong defence are quickly going to be one of my favourite mods to play.
@roberthill5805
@roberthill5805 4 года назад
I was curious on how they fucked this one up. They had StarCraft remastered and then did Warcraft 3 and didn't do anything near the same. They just had to update the game to fit newer systems, and update the graphics. But they screwed the pooch. Edit: Also per the crap maps, that was a no shit Sherlock moment. You make ToS that goes against map creators making the high tier ones stay away while the crap ones make their garbage.
@dennisdreck563
@dennisdreck563 4 года назад
6:17 which armor mod is this ?
@l0rf
@l0rf 4 года назад
I knew someone would ask this, checked the comments. Go look for eskyrimmods and on that site search for Team TAL. It should be from one of the Black Desert packs, or BDOR if you want to search for it directly. Good luck though, sadly the modding team basically jumped ship in 2019, abandoned their patreons and there's no port to Special Edition, it's all for Skyrim LE.
@fafikommander1903
@fafikommander1903 4 года назад
There is actually a WW2 Mod for Starcraft II, which is pretty neat.
@oshiko35P
@oshiko35P 4 года назад
I just saw your tweet about this.
@RobertFierce
@RobertFierce 4 года назад
I can't even cast my vote on Metacritic! It won't let me. That's why it's as high as 0.5. They won't let us rate this trash. Activision must've paid a nice sum to stop the ratings.
@VirusCity17
@VirusCity17 4 года назад
Can I just make a remark that the updated graphics aren't likely done by ActiBlizz as well? I heard that a Malaysian studio - known as Lemon Sky Studio that also makes visual art for many other games is responsible for creating the concept arts and 3d arts in Warcraft III Reforged. I don't have a clear understanding of the matter, but it is very likely that all ActiBlizz has done is downgrading the game.
@FreeDemonSoul
@FreeDemonSoul 4 года назад
Actually WC3 classic wasn't patched to be worse, it was fully deleted and replaced with WC3 Refunded without option to turn on new models. It's not like server was return less options for old client, it's old client of the game was killed and if you have it in some way (torrents, disc, but without updating from servers), you can't play online, you have no access to servers and ladders, etc.
@Reishadowen
@Reishadowen 4 года назад
When I first heard about "Warcraft 3: Remastered edition gets record low score on metacritic; worst game ever!" I initially thought, "Wow, what hyperbole and entitlement. What could possibly be so bad?" Then I watched the videos from RU-vidrs covering the topic. "Oh. So that's- OH. OOOHHHH......OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH.....OH DEAR GOD NO...." So, yeah. Besides the typical not-as-good-as-shown-in-the-demo, and the features downgrade, and the incredible new low for anti-consumer policies of "we own everything you make", it also adds the crowning middle-finger on top by ruining a previously good/already released game by simply launching. I think that DEFINITELY earns this game its own spot in video game hell.
@alack3879
@alack3879 4 года назад
My greatest complaint is how it looks like a unity port compared to its predecessor. It's so darn empty.
@FluffyFractalshard
@FluffyFractalshard 4 года назад
my theory is, that at this point blizzard employees try and actively commit brand suicide because they are so fed up with what activision did to them, so they actively try and deliver the worst game launch ever. there is no way this happened without intention. i just cant imagine a company being so dysfunctional to do something like that
@Victis_Rage
@Victis_Rage 4 года назад
Welcome to the party! It's been a good time.
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